Re: Mersenne: results.txt

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Doherty

The results file is a history file.  If it mentions it did a test on a
number, and found it's not prime, it's already told primnet all that.  It
just keeps a history file in there the way a lot of programs do.

--Peter

At 11:26 07/07/1999 +0200, you wrote:
I have a question about the result file in prime.
My computer automaticly connects the prime server when a calculation is
ready.
Now I saw that the file results.txt still contains the result of a
former calculation.
If the current calculation is ready and the computer reach the server
will the old one also be send to the server?
Is this correct?
Or do I have to delete something from the result.txt file
bye,

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RE: Mersenne: safe to defrag?

1999-06-24 Thread Peter Doherty

At 09:54 06/24/1999 -0700, you wrote:
 From: Jud McCranie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Since Prime95 writes to the disk periodically, is it safe to do a disk
 defragmentation while it is running?

My computer is up 24/7.  Prime95 writes to disk every 30 minutes, and my
email program (Eudora) checks for new mail every 20 minutes.  Three times a
week my computer automatically runs Win98 defrag program to defrag all
7.5GB of HDD space (a 4.3 HDD, and a 3.2HDD)  I've never had any real
problem.  Everytime something writes to disk defrag restarts, scans for
errors, and then checks over all that it has defraged, and picks up where
it left off.  This takes 1 to 2 minutes.  I've had some unexplained
computer hangs while defragging, but I can't attribute that to Prime95.  So
that's the long.
The short is, it's entirely safe to defrag while running Prime95.

--Peter


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Re: [Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18]

1999-06-06 Thread Peter Doherty

I second that.


At 16:33 06/06/1999 +0100, you wrote:
NO MORE. The end..


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I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2.
However, it won't fit into my signature file



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Re: Mersenne: Serious problems with v.18

1999-06-04 Thread Peter Doherty

This is normal.  Because of the bug in v17, all the math it was doing was
wrong, so using that 77% would have been a waste since it was incorrect
data.  There is no need to try and retrieve that data.  It's useless.

--Peter

At 04:11 06/04/1999 -0600, you wrote:
Before the upgrade, I was 77% of the way through an exponent in the 7M area.
Now it says 0%. It looks like it couldn't read older versions' save files and
started over! How do I recover that 77%? (I assume it would have to be
checked
to see if the version 17 error struck it, and either corrected or
discarded if
it had...)



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Re: Mersenne: An example of inconsiderate CPU hogging

1999-06-04 Thread Peter Doherty

However, one thing to note is that SETI @Home doesn't seem to be as "idle
priority" as Prime95 is.  I ran it for a while, and I felt I could notice a
slowdown, and when it wasn't minimized, there was a VERY noticeable
slowdown.  I think SETI @Home actually steals more than just idle cycles,
and gets a few more.

--Peter


At 22:45 06/04/1999 -0400, you wrote:
The message of the day on the Sun machines here at the University of
Michigan included the following today:

 * * * * *
Please do not run the Seti At Home program on the Login Servers. Although
it is for a good cause, the Login Servers do not have any spare CPU cycles
to donate. Running Seti At Home interferes with other users getting their
work done.
 * * * * *

This illustrates the importance of getting permission before running
processor-intensive programs on machines that are not entirely your own.
There are only about thirty people logged in on the machine that I'm using
right now, and as usual almost all of them are running Pine; even with
this comparatively light load the slowdown was apparently bad enough to be
a problem. I suspect that people trying to run Seti on these machines at a
peak time of year would create a big performance drag, and force the
administrators to monitor individual users' processor usage more closely
to prevent such abuses. It is easy to forget about such consequences in
the quest for CPU time.

I'd like to think that GIMPS members, on the whole, do not deserve
warnings like the one above. Let's keep it that way.


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Re: Mersenne: Iteration time?

1999-05-03 Thread Peter Doherty

At 19:38 05/03/1999 -0500, you wrote:
Does anybody have a idea of what the iteration time for a PII 450a running
Prime95 under Win 98 should be (LL test in the 683 range)?


Shane


Should be something like .200 seconds.  I'm working on something in the 735
range and it's doing .218 sec on my P2 450.  BTW, you say PII
450a...implying a Celeron 300A overclocked to 450...in which case it's a
Celeron 450A...not PIIbut the Celeron and P2 are about the same speed
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Re: Mersenne: Single precision in consoles

1999-04-14 Thread Peter Doherty

I see your point, and I'm aware it can be done.  I didn't mean any kind of
personal attack on you for your idea.  Creative thinking is one of the most
important things in my opinion.  I just think such important and
interesting things as GIMPS shouldn't be spread over to consoles.  GIMPS is
working incredibly well and so many numbers are getting crunched so quickly
by the mass effort.  If we all remain patient, we will soon have another
mersenne prime on the list.

At 13:59 04/13/1999 +, you wrote:
Hello,

I know many have complained about my console idea (which, as I said, was not
very realistic at this point), because they only have single precision. I
just want you to consider that George once had an _integer_ version of
Prime95
running, but it was roughly 7 times slower (if I remember right) that the
FPU version. (The factoring code for 486es and clones _is_ integer, BTW.)

However, there is strength in numbers. A _lot_ of people have consoles. So
even if they aren't as much worth as a P3/Mhz or whatever, they still
_help_, much more than 486es.

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Re: Mersenne: Really really crazy idea...

1999-04-12 Thread Peter Doherty

At 21:19 04/12/1999 +0100, you wrote:
 People then said most consoles are really bad at
 accurate floating point calculations because they aren't
 used much in games.

Who said that?  Floating point maths is used extensively in 3D calculation,
which all modern consoles excell at.


Yes, but I think it's a question of single precision vs. double precision.
The SSE or 3DNow! units of the K6-2 and P-3 can't be utilized by Prime95
because they are single precision only.  Most games only use single
precision floating point calculations.  The consoles are the same.  Prime95
needs a double-precision unit to do it's complex calculations.
Overall I think the console idea is a really bad one.

--Peter


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Re: Mersenne: IMPORTANT: BUG IN VERSION PRIME95 17

1999-04-01 Thread Peter Doherty

Please, oh please tell me this is some kind of cruel April Fools Joke.

It's not though is it?  Oh well.  Sorry.

--Peter



At 18:04 04/01/1999 -0500, you wrote:
Hi all,

   Please forgive me.  I'm terribly sorry.  I've discovered a bug
in version 17 of prime95 and its variants (ntprime, mprime, OS/2 version).
All Lucas-Lehmer tests above 4,194,304 (except those that were done as
a continuation of a v16 run) are no good.  I feel sick.

   I've uploaded version 18 of prime95 and ntprime.  I'll port it
to Linux and Windows 3.1 as soon as I can.  Please download and install
this new version immediately from http:\\www.mersenne.org\freesoft.htm
Version 16 and earlier users were not affected by this bug.  Neither
were those users that are double-checking.

   I've asked Scott to change Primenet to assign double-checking
work to version 17 clients in the future.  I don't know if he can do this
or not, let's hope so.

   After upgrading, you will get error messages that look like this:
Error reading intermediate file: p6180331
Renaming intermediate file q6180331 to p6180331.
Error reading intermediate file: p6180331
   This is normal.  Prime95 must discard the incorrect version 17
save files.

   My records indicate that 10,794 of the 59,169 Lucas-Lehmer tests
above 4,194,304 will have to be discarded.  This will set GIMPS back
roughly 3 to 4 months.  This will not affect your standings on the PrimeNet
server's Top Producer's page.

   For those that like to look at the bright side of things, I can find
only one bit of good news.  This will give you a better chance to win the
$50,000 EFF prize once I sort out the mess and have the server hand out
smaller exponents to retest.

   Once again, I'm sorry for the bug and the wasted CPU cycles the
last few months.

Humbled,
George


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