Re: AW: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread bjb

On 10 Sep 2001, at 7:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I beg your pardon: you didn´t really expect to get informed about a
 planned outage BEFORE it happens or a crash AFTER it happened, did
 you?

Well, as a service operator myself (though without any 
responsibility to PrimeNet), I do try to warn users when a service is 
at unusual risk.

As for crashes, or unplanned outages for other reasons (like the 
power failing), I would try to post a notice explaining what 
happened as soon as I know myself. In the case of a system which 
fails on a Friday evening I do not think it is unreasonable that there 
is no information until Monday. Presumably the system support 
staff are not paid on a 24x7 basis.

BTW some people claim that the PrimeNet server is working, just 
very, very slowly. In that case it's more than likely that the server is 
sufferring a DoS attack :(
 
 Such an outage didn´t occur for the first time in my (nearly) three
 years supporting GIMPS and others will follow.

Is that a statement, or a threat? 

BTW I do remember a few service breaks, though this one is the 
worst; in fact the service has been pretty reliable recently, at least 
until last Friday night.

 May be that´s one
 reason why GIMPS lost about 8.000 to 9.000 machines during the last
 six months.

Other reasons may apply:

(a) new projects which may be attractive to many people;

(b) the increasing size of our work units; processor speeds really 
haven't been keeping up!

(c) problems with utility (mains) power supply in some areas e.g. 
California discouraging people from running systems 24x7;

(d) adverse publicity involving distributed computing projects e.g. 
the sysadmin who installed RC5 clients on his systems without 
consent of his employer.

Regards
Brian Beesley
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Re: AW: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-10 Thread Steve Harris


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:58 AM

BTW some people claim that the PrimeNet server is working, just
very, very slowly. In that case it's more than likely that the server is
sufferring a DoS attack :(


That was my first thought. Isn't mersenne.org physically located on
Entropia's servers? I still have been unable to get to mersenne.org at all,
but was able to get to Entropia's home page (although it took several
minutes to partially download before I gave up waiting).

Regards,
Steve Harris


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AW: Mersenne: Prime Net Server

2001-09-09 Thread Achim . Passauer



I beg 
your pardon: you didn´t really expect to get informed about a planned outage 
BEFORE it happens or a crash AFTER it happened, did you?

If you 
did expect this, then you should have joined another distributed-computing 
project like SETI. They do inform their participants about such things. But 
people who are cool enough to find million-digit-primes should be able to find 
out that the server is down the whole weekend. Well, you have to pay for it 
(in Germany), but who cares?

Such 
an outage didn´t occur for the first time in my (nearly) three years supporting 
GIMPS and others will follow. May be that´s one reason why GIMPS lost about 
8.000 to 9.000 machines during the last six months.

Regards
Achim

  Ursprüngliche Nachricht-Von: Matt Goodrich 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Gesendet: Samstag, 8. September 
  2001 21:36An: Mersenne List (E-mail)Betreff: Mersenne: 
  Prime Net Server
  Is there scheduled 
  maint. going on with the server today, or is this a unscheduled 
  outage?
  Matt