Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-23 Thread Walt Mankowski

On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 12:37:32PM -0400, Nathan Russell wrote:
 I agree that this is unfair, especially given that SETI is probably
 the only project to have more than ten thousand users and NO results

Not that they've told anybody about, at any rate... :-)

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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread xqrpa

Article seems to detail tightly-coupled Beowulf clusters, not the sort
of internet-linked distributed computing we are doing.  Have I got the wrong
article?

I'm looking at:

http://sciam.com/2001/0801issue/0801hargrove.html

Best Wishes,
Stefanovic

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 There is an article this in the new Scientific American on distributed
 computing, but no mention of GIMPS.  I feel cheated.  spike

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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Steve Harris

Yes the article does go into great detail re Beowulf clusters, but the
penultimate paragraph contains:

An equally important trend is the development of networks of PCs that
contribute their processing power to a collective task. An example is
SETI@home, ...

As usual, we get ignored while SETI gets all the publicity.


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Article seems to detail tightly-coupled Beowulf clusters, not the sort
of internet-linked distributed computing we are doing.  Have I got the
wrong
article?

I'm looking at:

http://sciam.com/2001/0801issue/0801hargrove.html

Best Wishes,
Stefanovic

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 There is an article this in the new Scientific American on distributed
 computing, but no mention of GIMPS.  I feel cheated.  spike

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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread mohk

The reason is quiet simple: SETI is successful and GIMPS is not.

Don't worry, SETI junks million of CPU years while GIMPS solve
complex math. problems (8


Yes the article does go into great detail re Beowulf clusters, but the
penultimate paragraph contains:

An equally important trend is the development of networks of PCs that
contribute their processing power to a collective task. An example is
SETI@home, ...

As usual, we get ignored while SETI gets all the publicity.


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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Russel Brooks

mohk wrote:
 Don't worry, SETI junks million of CPU years...

Unless they actually find something.

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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread mohk

LOL ;)

Are we alone?

1) no, we found something
2) dunno :)

I guess searching a needle in a haystack is less complicated.

At 16:10 22.07.2001, you wrote:
mohk wrote:
  Don't worry, SETI junks million of CPU years...

Unless they actually find something.

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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Nathan Russell

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 05:48:52 -0500, Steve Harris wrote:

Yes the article does go into great detail re Beowulf clusters, but the
penultimate paragraph contains:

An equally important trend is the development of networks of PCs that
contribute their processing power to a collective task. An example is
SETI@home, ...

As usual, we get ignored while SETI gets all the publicity.

I agree that this is unfair, especially given that SETI is probably
the only project to have more than ten thousand users and NO results
(putting aside projects like some of the commercial ones that have
been running a relatively short time).  

I think the reason SETI attracts so much of the public attention is
simply that anyone can imagine the significance of playing a role in
discovering aliens, while the cash prizes for GIMPS (while larger than
those for distributed.net) aren't something that really attracts
people's attention at first glance.  

Nathan
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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Martijn Kruithof

Actually given the right imaging equipment around the haystack locating a
needle in a haystack should take less than 1 minute.
A low cost version w/o imaging could probaly do it in about 1 hour (strong
magnet + pulling the haystack out of order)

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 I guess searching a needle in a haystack is less complicated.



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Re: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Steve Harris

Most people just find aliens more interesting than primes. One doesn't find
articles about prime numbers in the tabloids.

I didn't join GIMPS for the cash prizes; I'd have a better chance buying a
lottery ticket. But I'm sure many people do join for that reason, probably
the same ones who do buy lottery tickets.

And if I do happen to find a mersenne prime, the article will appear in
places like Scientific American, not the National Enquirer... ;~)

Steve

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I think the reason SETI attracts so much of the public attention is
simply that anyone can imagine the significance of playing a role in
discovering aliens, while the cash prizes for GIMPS (while larger than
those for distributed.net) aren't something that really attracts
people's attention at first glance.

Nathan


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RE: Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-22 Thread Bryon Buck

Once again, my friends, aliens turn out to be far sexier than prime numbers.
I don't see that ever changing!

Take care,

--buck

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mohk wrote:
 Don't worry, SETI junks million of CPU years...

Unless they actually find something.

Cheers... Russ

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Mersenne: scientific american

2001-07-21 Thread Spike Jones

There is an article this in the new Scientific American on distributed
computing, but no mention of GIMPS.  I feel cheated.  spike

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Mersenne: Scientific American: Distributed Computing

2000-03-20 Thread Griffith, Shaun
Title: Mersenne: Scientific American: Distributed Computing





The April edition of Scientific American has an article on distributed computing:


http://www.sciam.com/2000/0400issue/0400scicit5.html


-Shaun