Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On 05/07/2020 11:35 AM, Daniel Stone wrote: Hi, On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 18:08, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 11:03 -0600, Brian Paul wrote: It seems like only the front page is served at the moment. Is it possible to get a look at the rest? The front page looks nice. Yeah, we need to set up docs.mesa3d.org first. I haven't bothered setting up the temporary URLs yet, but my current preview is hosted here: After the nginx infrastructure work over the past few weeks, we can now actually set up redirects. So I think the better thing would be to assume this will be https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mesa3d.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7Cca45e2189c2847b0630f08d7f2ad385c%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637244698116403831sdata=2WRscmbHCqteoeEcy010Zg%2FxSPXfaoyfwr9MzEOdTL0%3Dreserved=0 hosted on Pages, then have redirects over for tarball downloads. Brian, could you please add a DNS entry for archive.mesa3d.org as a CNAME to annarchy.freedesktop.org, and docs.mesa3d.org as a CNAME to gitlab.freedesktop.org? If you can do that, I'll get the archive hosting set up separately, then when we're ready we can cut over https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mesa3d.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7Cca45e2189c2847b0630f08d7f2ad385c%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637244698116403831sdata=2WRscmbHCqteoeEcy010Zg%2FxSPXfaoyfwr9MzEOdTL0%3Dreserved=0 and mesa3d.org to Pages. Ok, I'll try to do this asap, but it may be 24 hours. -Brian ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
Hi, On Thu, 7 May 2020 at 18:08, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 11:03 -0600, Brian Paul wrote: > > It seems like only the front page is served at the moment. Is it > > possible to get a look at the rest? The front page looks nice. > > Yeah, we need to set up docs.mesa3d.org first. I haven't bothered > setting up the temporary URLs yet, but my current preview is hosted > here: After the nginx infrastructure work over the past few weeks, we can now actually set up redirects. So I think the better thing would be to assume this will be www.mesa3d.org hosted on Pages, then have redirects over for tarball downloads. Brian, could you please add a DNS entry for archive.mesa3d.org as a CNAME to annarchy.freedesktop.org, and docs.mesa3d.org as a CNAME to gitlab.freedesktop.org? If you can do that, I'll get the archive hosting set up separately, then when we're ready we can cut over www.mesa3d.org and mesa3d.org to Pages. Cheers, Daniel ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On 05/07/2020 04:33 AM, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: Hey Brian TLDR; are you OK with me moving forward with the rework of mesa3d.org? Yes... (BTW, sorry about the URL mangling below) As you hopefully are aware of, I've been working on a new website for mesa3d.org, split into a "marketing"-frontpage and a documentation page. You can read more about the structure and details here if you haven't already: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.org%2Fmesa%2Fmesa%2F-%2Fmerge_requests%2F4630data=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=1Z%2B3KKoVjNLHRvIf2VbK7KHSM4kh10fZQ1zdfPsguA0%3Dreserved=0 That MR only deals with the marketing website, so I think it's time to talk more about the main website. What I currently have is located here: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.org%2Fkusma%2Fkusma.pages.freedesktop.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=ttMgZuWT%2Bgg19H9qx1XmUQgl%2FO%2FlFF3vZuGkKxQGC9g%3Dreserved=0 This builds on CI and currently gets served here: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkusma.pages.freedesktop.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=258fUaF1DrIioGS1VTROkJznMNjI3xhxmbdl9RWyJZU%3Dreserved=0 It seems like only the front page is served at the moment. Is it possible to get a look at the rest? The front page looks nice. Since last time I published any details about this, I've: 1. Switched the static-site-generator from Jekyll to Hugo. This lead to a build-time decrease from about two minutes to about 200ms on my machine. This makes iteration times a lot more bearable. 2. Back-paddled on moving some pages. I think we can hold off on moving pages to the website until the initial work lands. 3. Gotten approval from the Khronos marketing team about the usage of their logos / trademarks. They had some minor requests for changes, which has been taken into account. The news articles and redirects for URL compatibility is converted from a branch in my Mesa fork, here: https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.org%2Fkusma%2Fmesa%2F-%2Ftree%2Fdocs-convert-news-hugodata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=rmXuKgyMFAZqJD4ij%2F8mR1EvA4HvFYwnR5Gd%2BCdgJFM%3Dreserved=0 So, after a long introduction (sorry if a lot of this is stuff you already know), what I really want is for you Brian, as the project originator and listed webmaster, to say how you feel about all of this. Please remove me as the webmaster. I still occasionally get emails from that. Let readers know how to submit changes/edits. If you're happy to move forward with this, I will start the technical discussions with the FDO admins and other people who might need to be involved in setting this up for production. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry for not monitoring this work. I basically have zero time for Mesa nowadays. -Brian ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 11:03 -0600, Brian Paul wrote: > On 05/07/2020 04:33 AM, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > Hey Brian > > > > TLDR; are you OK with me moving forward with the rework of > > mesa3d.org? > > Yes... Awesome, thanks! > > As you hopefully are aware of, I've been working on a new website > > for > > mesa3d.org, split into a "marketing"-frontpage and a documentation > > page. > > > > You can read more about the structure and details here if you > > haven't > > already: > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.org%2Fmesa%2Fmesa%2F-%2Fmerge_requests%2F4630data=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=1Z%2B3KKoVjNLHRvIf2VbK7KHSM4kh10fZQ1zdfPsguA0%3Dreserved=0 > > > > That MR only deals with the marketing website, so I think it's time > > to > > talk more about the main website. What I currently have is located > > here: > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.org%2Fkusma%2Fkusma.pages.freedesktop.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=ttMgZuWT%2Bgg19H9qx1XmUQgl%2FO%2FlFF3vZuGkKxQGC9g%3Dreserved=0 > > > > This builds on CI and currently gets served here: > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkusma.pages.freedesktop.org%2Fdata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=258fUaF1DrIioGS1VTROkJznMNjI3xhxmbdl9RWyJZU%3Dreserved=0 > > It seems like only the front page is served at the moment. Is it > possible to get a look at the rest? The front page looks nice. > Yeah, we need to set up docs.mesa3d.org first. I haven't bothered setting up the temporary URLs yet, but my current preview is hosted here: https://kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/mesa/ It's a plain readthedocs-themed Sphinx site, which is a reasonably popular way of serving docs. This is all cooking here right now: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4630 > > > > Since last time I published any details about this, I've: > > 1. Switched the static-site-generator from Jekyll to Hugo. This > > lead to > > a build-time decrease from about two minutes to about 200ms on my > > machine. This makes iteration times a lot more bearable. > > 2. Back-paddled on moving some pages. I think we can hold off on > > moving > > pages to the website until the initial work lands. > > 3. Gotten approval from the Khronos marketing team about the usage > > of > > their logos / trademarks. They had some minor requests for changes, > > which has been taken into account. > > > > The news articles and redirects for URL compatibility is converted > > from > > a branch in my Mesa fork, here: > > > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.org%2Fkusma%2Fmesa%2F-%2Ftree%2Fdocs-convert-news-hugodata=02%7C01%7Cbrianp%40vmware.com%7C6998774738b349bcb79108d7f2720ca6%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C63723970864799sdata=rmXuKgyMFAZqJD4ij%2F8mR1EvA4HvFYwnR5Gd%2BCdgJFM%3Dreserved=0 > > > > So, after a long introduction (sorry if a lot of this is stuff you > > already know), what I really want is for you Brian, as the project > > originator and listed webmaster, to say how you feel about all of > > this. > > Please remove me as the webmaster. I still occasionally get emails > from > that. Let readers know how to submit changes/edits. > OK, will do! > > If you're happy to move forward with this, I will start the > > technical > > discussions with the FDO admins and other people who might need to > > be > > involved in setting this up for production. > > Yeah, go ahead. Sorry for not monitoring this work. I basically > have > zero time for Mesa nowadays. That's fine, and thank you for your blessing! ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 16:49 +0200, Eric Engestrom wrote: > On Thursday, 2020-05-07 16:26:19 +0200, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 16:18 +0200, Eric Engestrom wrote: > > > On Thursday, 2020-05-07 16:07:00 +0200, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:05 -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote: > > > > > Looks shiny but > > > > > > > > > > We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with > > > > > Khronos > > > > > trademark rules is using logos for things where > > > > > implementations > > > > > aren't > > > > > conformant. Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land > > > > > for > > > > > a > > > > > while and everything has been mostly fine. We've been very > > > > > careful > > > > > to > > > > > *not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs. > > > > > Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project > > > > > that > > > > > contains implementations and that some of those > > > > > implementations > > > > > are > > > > > conformant. That page full of logos makes me concerned that > > > > > we're > > > > > going to risk getting into trouble. Khronos marketing cares > > > > > A > > > > > LOT > > > > > about logos. > > > > > > > > As I wrote in the e-mail, I've already clarified the logo-usage > > > > with > > > > Khronos. They are happy with it as-is. > > > > > > Could you post their concerns/guidelines here, so that we can all > > > know > > > what can and cannot be on the website and make sure we never > > > cross > > > the > > > line with future changes? > > > > You can find their logo guidelines here: > > https://www.khronos.org/legal/trademarks/ > > > > But because Mesa is in a special eternal conformant/non-conformant > > limbo, I sent an email to clarify. I've posted the response I got > > here: > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/snippets/996 > > > > I think the first link is going to be what most people care about, > > though. > > OK, so basically > - make sure we use the up-to-date, unmodified logos from Khronos > - make sure we are clearly stating that the project is not conformant > as a whole, > but as you said only some "combinations of drivers and APIs" are. > > I think that should be easy enough to not mess up :) Yeah, I think it's pretty easy to conform to :) ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On Thursday, 2020-05-07 16:26:19 +0200, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 16:18 +0200, Eric Engestrom wrote: > > On Thursday, 2020-05-07 16:07:00 +0200, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:05 -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote: > > > > Looks shiny but > > > > > > > > We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with > > > > Khronos > > > > trademark rules is using logos for things where implementations > > > > aren't > > > > conformant. Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land for > > > > a > > > > while and everything has been mostly fine. We've been very > > > > careful > > > > to > > > > *not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs. > > > > Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project that > > > > contains implementations and that some of those implementations > > > > are > > > > conformant. That page full of logos makes me concerned that > > > > we're > > > > going to risk getting into trouble. Khronos marketing cares A > > > > LOT > > > > about logos. > > > > > > As I wrote in the e-mail, I've already clarified the logo-usage > > > with > > > Khronos. They are happy with it as-is. > > > > Could you post their concerns/guidelines here, so that we can all > > know > > what can and cannot be on the website and make sure we never cross > > the > > line with future changes? > > You can find their logo guidelines here: > https://www.khronos.org/legal/trademarks/ > > But because Mesa is in a special eternal conformant/non-conformant > limbo, I sent an email to clarify. I've posted the response I got here: > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/snippets/996 > > I think the first link is going to be what most people care about, > though. OK, so basically - make sure we use the up-to-date, unmodified logos from Khronos - make sure we are clearly stating that the project is not conformant as a whole, but as you said only some "combinations of drivers and APIs" are. I think that should be easy enough to not mess up :) ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 16:18 +0200, Eric Engestrom wrote: > On Thursday, 2020-05-07 16:07:00 +0200, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:05 -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote: > > > Looks shiny but > > > > > > We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with > > > Khronos > > > trademark rules is using logos for things where implementations > > > aren't > > > conformant. Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land for > > > a > > > while and everything has been mostly fine. We've been very > > > careful > > > to > > > *not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs. > > > Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project that > > > contains implementations and that some of those implementations > > > are > > > conformant. That page full of logos makes me concerned that > > > we're > > > going to risk getting into trouble. Khronos marketing cares A > > > LOT > > > about logos. > > > > As I wrote in the e-mail, I've already clarified the logo-usage > > with > > Khronos. They are happy with it as-is. > > Could you post their concerns/guidelines here, so that we can all > know > what can and cannot be on the website and make sure we never cross > the > line with future changes? You can find their logo guidelines here: https://www.khronos.org/legal/trademarks/ But because Mesa is in a special eternal conformant/non-conformant limbo, I sent an email to clarify. I've posted the response I got here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/snippets/996 I think the first link is going to be what most people care about, though. ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 9:07 AM Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:05 -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote: > > Looks shiny but > > > > We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with Khronos > > trademark rules is using logos for things where implementations > > aren't > > conformant. Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land for a > > while and everything has been mostly fine. We've been very careful > > to > > *not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs. > > Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project that > > contains implementations and that some of those implementations are > > conformant. That page full of logos makes me concerned that we're > > going to risk getting into trouble. Khronos marketing cares A LOT > > about logos. > > As I wrote in the e-mail, I've already clarified the logo-usage with > Khronos. They are happy with it as-is. Sorry. I should have done more reading. Thanks for checking with them! I think the new thing looks great! --Jason > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:33 AM Erik Faye-Lund > > wrote: > > > Hey Brian > > > > > > TLDR; are you OK with me moving forward with the rework of > > > mesa3d.org? > > > > > > As you hopefully are aware of, I've been working on a new website > > > for > > > mesa3d.org, split into a "marketing"-frontpage and a documentation > > > page. > > > > > > You can read more about the structure and details here if you > > > haven't > > > already: > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4630 > > > > > > That MR only deals with the marketing website, so I think it's time > > > to > > > talk more about the main website. What I currently have is located > > > here: > > > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ > > > > > > This builds on CI and currently gets served here: > > > > > > https://kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ > > > > > > > > > Since last time I published any details about this, I've: > > > 1. Switched the static-site-generator from Jekyll to Hugo. This > > > lead to > > > a build-time decrease from about two minutes to about 200ms on my > > > machine. This makes iteration times a lot more bearable. > > > 2. Back-paddled on moving some pages. I think we can hold off on > > > moving > > > pages to the website until the initial work lands. > > > 3. Gotten approval from the Khronos marketing team about the usage > > > of > > > their logos / trademarks. They had some minor requests for changes, > > > which has been taken into account. > > > > > > The news articles and redirects for URL compatibility is converted > > > from > > > a branch in my Mesa fork, here: > > > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/mesa/-/tree/docs-convert-news-hugo > > > > > > So, after a long introduction (sorry if a lot of this is stuff you > > > already know), what I really want is for you Brian, as the project > > > originator and listed webmaster, to say how you feel about all of > > > this. > > > > > > If you're happy to move forward with this, I will start the > > > technical > > > discussions with the FDO admins and other people who might need to > > > be > > > involved in setting this up for production. > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > mesa-dev mailing list > > > mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org > > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev > ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On Thursday, 2020-05-07 16:07:00 +0200, Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:05 -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote: > > Looks shiny but > > > > We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with Khronos > > trademark rules is using logos for things where implementations > > aren't > > conformant. Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land for a > > while and everything has been mostly fine. We've been very careful > > to > > *not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs. > > Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project that > > contains implementations and that some of those implementations are > > conformant. That page full of logos makes me concerned that we're > > going to risk getting into trouble. Khronos marketing cares A LOT > > about logos. > > As I wrote in the e-mail, I've already clarified the logo-usage with > Khronos. They are happy with it as-is. Could you post their concerns/guidelines here, so that we can all know what can and cannot be on the website and make sure we never cross the line with future changes? ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
On Thu, 2020-05-07 at 09:05 -0500, Jason Ekstrand wrote: > Looks shiny but > > We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with Khronos > trademark rules is using logos for things where implementations > aren't > conformant. Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land for a > while and everything has been mostly fine. We've been very careful > to > *not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs. > Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project that > contains implementations and that some of those implementations are > conformant. That page full of logos makes me concerned that we're > going to risk getting into trouble. Khronos marketing cares A LOT > about logos. As I wrote in the e-mail, I've already clarified the logo-usage with Khronos. They are happy with it as-is. > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:33 AM Erik Faye-Lund > wrote: > > Hey Brian > > > > TLDR; are you OK with me moving forward with the rework of > > mesa3d.org? > > > > As you hopefully are aware of, I've been working on a new website > > for > > mesa3d.org, split into a "marketing"-frontpage and a documentation > > page. > > > > You can read more about the structure and details here if you > > haven't > > already: > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4630 > > > > That MR only deals with the marketing website, so I think it's time > > to > > talk more about the main website. What I currently have is located > > here: > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ > > > > This builds on CI and currently gets served here: > > > > https://kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ > > > > > > Since last time I published any details about this, I've: > > 1. Switched the static-site-generator from Jekyll to Hugo. This > > lead to > > a build-time decrease from about two minutes to about 200ms on my > > machine. This makes iteration times a lot more bearable. > > 2. Back-paddled on moving some pages. I think we can hold off on > > moving > > pages to the website until the initial work lands. > > 3. Gotten approval from the Khronos marketing team about the usage > > of > > their logos / trademarks. They had some minor requests for changes, > > which has been taken into account. > > > > The news articles and redirects for URL compatibility is converted > > from > > a branch in my Mesa fork, here: > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/mesa/-/tree/docs-convert-news-hugo > > > > So, after a long introduction (sorry if a lot of this is stuff you > > already know), what I really want is for you Brian, as the project > > originator and listed webmaster, to say how you feel about all of > > this. > > > > If you're happy to move forward with this, I will start the > > technical > > discussions with the FDO admins and other people who might need to > > be > > involved in setting this up for production. > > > > > > ___ > > mesa-dev mailing list > > mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
Re: [Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
Looks shiny but We need to be very careful here. One of the big no-nos with Khronos trademark rules is using logos for things where implementations aren't conformant. Mesa has been living in a mirky in-between land for a while and everything has been mostly fine. We've been very careful to *not* say that Mesa is an implementation of any Khronos APIs. Instead, we say that Mesa is an open-source software project that contains implementations and that some of those implementations are conformant. That page full of logos makes me concerned that we're going to risk getting into trouble. Khronos marketing cares A LOT about logos. --Jason On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:33 AM Erik Faye-Lund wrote: > > Hey Brian > > TLDR; are you OK with me moving forward with the rework of mesa3d.org? > > As you hopefully are aware of, I've been working on a new website for > mesa3d.org, split into a "marketing"-frontpage and a documentation > page. > > You can read more about the structure and details here if you haven't > already: > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4630 > > That MR only deals with the marketing website, so I think it's time to > talk more about the main website. What I currently have is located > here: > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ > > This builds on CI and currently gets served here: > > https://kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ > > > Since last time I published any details about this, I've: > 1. Switched the static-site-generator from Jekyll to Hugo. This lead to > a build-time decrease from about two minutes to about 200ms on my > machine. This makes iteration times a lot more bearable. > 2. Back-paddled on moving some pages. I think we can hold off on moving > pages to the website until the initial work lands. > 3. Gotten approval from the Khronos marketing team about the usage of > their logos / trademarks. They had some minor requests for changes, > which has been taken into account. > > The news articles and redirects for URL compatibility is converted from > a branch in my Mesa fork, here: > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/mesa/-/tree/docs-convert-news-hugo > > So, after a long introduction (sorry if a lot of this is stuff you > already know), what I really want is for you Brian, as the project > originator and listed webmaster, to say how you feel about all of this. > > If you're happy to move forward with this, I will start the technical > discussions with the FDO admins and other people who might need to be > involved in setting this up for production. > > > ___ > mesa-dev mailing list > mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
[Mesa-dev] New Mesa3D.org website proposal
Hey Brian TLDR; are you OK with me moving forward with the rework of mesa3d.org? As you hopefully are aware of, I've been working on a new website for mesa3d.org, split into a "marketing"-frontpage and a documentation page. You can read more about the structure and details here if you haven't already: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4630 That MR only deals with the marketing website, so I think it's time to talk more about the main website. What I currently have is located here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ This builds on CI and currently gets served here: https://kusma.pages.freedesktop.org/ Since last time I published any details about this, I've: 1. Switched the static-site-generator from Jekyll to Hugo. This lead to a build-time decrease from about two minutes to about 200ms on my machine. This makes iteration times a lot more bearable. 2. Back-paddled on moving some pages. I think we can hold off on moving pages to the website until the initial work lands. 3. Gotten approval from the Khronos marketing team about the usage of their logos / trademarks. They had some minor requests for changes, which has been taken into account. The news articles and redirects for URL compatibility is converted from a branch in my Mesa fork, here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/kusma/mesa/-/tree/docs-convert-news-hugo So, after a long introduction (sorry if a lot of this is stuff you already know), what I really want is for you Brian, as the project originator and listed webmaster, to say how you feel about all of this. If you're happy to move forward with this, I will start the technical discussions with the FDO admins and other people who might need to be involved in setting this up for production. ___ mesa-dev mailing list mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/mesa-dev
