Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC] Mesa release improvements - Release schedule

2018-04-12 Thread Andres Gomez
On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 16:00 +, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 12 March 2018 at 14:35, Andres Gomez  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> >  * Release schedule: move from pre-announce Wed, announcement Fri [0]
> >to pre-announce Mon, announcement Wed.
> > * Why would we want to do this?
> >* We have delays in the release every now and then. When this
> >  happens, we step already into the weekend which is bad for the
> >  release team but also for the developers of specific drivers
> >  who will have to test the patches in the queue before the
> >  actual release.
> >* Moving the dates to Mon and Wed gives a bigger margin to a
> >  delay without stepping into the weekend. It also gives a bit
> >  more of margin in case we found straight away that a release
> >  is problematic and needs immediate correction.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I believe that Ian/Carl had reasons for choosing Friday, although do
> not recall the details.
> I can see this proposal helping us, but it will be great if they can
> share their train of thought.
> 
> There could be something that we're missing ;-)
> 
> Obviously input from others is also appreciated.

No counter arguments so far. I'll send a patch to the doc for review
ASAP.

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Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC] Mesa release improvements - Release schedule

2018-03-12 Thread Emil Velikov
On 12 March 2018 at 14:35, Andres Gomez  wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  * Release schedule: move from pre-announce Wed, announcement Fri [0]
>to pre-announce Mon, announcement Wed.
> * Why would we want to do this?
>* We have delays in the release every now and then. When this
>  happens, we step already into the weekend which is bad for the
>  release team but also for the developers of specific drivers
>  who will have to test the patches in the queue before the
>  actual release.
>* Moving the dates to Mon and Wed gives a bigger margin to a
>  delay without stepping into the weekend. It also gives a bit
>  more of margin in case we found straight away that a release
>  is problematic and needs immediate correction.
>
>
I believe that Ian/Carl had reasons for choosing Friday, although do
not recall the details.
I can see this proposal helping us, but it will be great if they can
share their train of thought.

There could be something that we're missing ;-)

Obviously input from others is also appreciated.

-Emil
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Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC] Mesa release improvements - Release schedule

2018-03-12 Thread Juan A. Suarez Romero
On Mon, 2018-03-12 at 16:35 +0200, Andres Gomez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  * Release schedule: move from pre-announce Wed, announcement Fri [0]
>to pre-announce Mon, announcement Wed.
> * Why would we want to do this?
>* We have delays in the release every now and then. When this
>  happens, we step already into the weekend which is bad for the
>  release team but also for the developers of specific drivers
>  who will have to test the patches in the queue before the
>  actual release.
>* Moving the dates to Mon and Wed gives a bigger margin to a
>  delay without stepping into the weekend. It also gives a bit
>  more of margin in case we found straight away that a release
>  is problematic and needs immediate correction.
> 
> 

+1 to this proposal.


Plus, if after the release an unexpected major issue happens, this will provide
us time to fix in the same week, rather to wait to next week.

J.A.


> [0] https://www.mesa3d.org/releasing.html#schedule
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Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC] Mesa release improvements - Release schedule

2018-03-12 Thread Mark Janes
Andres Gomez  writes:

> Hi,
>
>  * Release schedule: move from pre-announce Wed, announcement Fri [0]
>to pre-announce Mon, announcement Wed.

This seems like an improvement to me.

> * Why would we want to do this?
>* We have delays in the release every now and then. When this
>  happens, we step already into the weekend which is bad for the
>  release team but also for the developers of specific drivers
>  who will have to test the patches in the queue before the
>  actual release.
>* Moving the dates to Mon and Wed gives a bigger margin to a
>  delay without stepping into the weekend. It also gives a bit
>  more of margin in case we found straight away that a release
>  is problematic and needs immediate correction.
>
>
> [0] https://www.mesa3d.org/releasing.html#schedule
> -- 
> Br,
>
> Andres
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Re: [Mesa-dev] [RFC] Mesa release improvements - Release schedule

2018-03-12 Thread Andres Gomez
Hi,

 * Release schedule: move from pre-announce Wed, announcement Fri [0]
   to pre-announce Mon, announcement Wed.
* Why would we want to do this?
   * We have delays in the release every now and then. When this
 happens, we step already into the weekend which is bad for the
 release team but also for the developers of specific drivers
 who will have to test the patches in the queue before the
 actual release.
   * Moving the dates to Mon and Wed gives a bigger margin to a
 delay without stepping into the weekend. It also gives a bit
 more of margin in case we found straight away that a release
 is problematic and needs immediate correction.


[0] https://www.mesa3d.org/releasing.html#schedule
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