Re: adding objects to groups
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 08:30 AM, Rick Rice wrote: How do you add objects to a group? I have an image which is 4 times larger in area than the screen window. The image contains various cells. I want to draw an oval around various cells and then group the ovals and image so when the image is moved the ovals move as well and remain around the cell I drew it around. Now here's the problem. I can draw the ovals and group then with the image but then I have to move the image so a different area is in the window I run into a problem. I can draw ovals around the cells in the new area but how do I group these new ovals with the previous group? Hope this description makes sense. Thanks Rick Rick, Simply use the following to get an object that is not in a group, into a group. copy graphic oval to group groupNameHere then you need to delete the original control that is not in the group. -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: OS X Standalone Question Rerun
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 09:24 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Simon Lord wrote: Yep. It was answered a few night ago by Mark Talluto Snip: This is more work. One option is to download the latest developer tools from apples site. Go to the developer section. It is a big download. It will install all kinds of neat tools some of which you will need for icons and handling the menu you are talking about. The data is stored in a resource called: plst 1. Use resedit in classic to get the current data from your standalone from this plst resource. Copy it. 2. Paste it into bbedit 3. Open the file you save from bbedit into PropertyListEditor. Change the needed items from there. You can edit it with an XML editor or the application from apple called PropertyListEditor (which comes with the developer tools download). Save that for later use if you want. There is a dump button in that app that will put the xml data into a blank field near the bottom of the screen. Copy that. 4. Go back to resedit and paste it over the old data that you copied originally. 5. Save those changes in resedit. 6. You are done. Almost. Now you need to make resources for the icons, and if I'm not mistaken Apple's tool only makes icon files, but not resources Icon Composer, available in the developer download, does the trick. I then use Graphic Converter to transfer the resource it creates over to the standalone. -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Undoing
On Friday, January 11, 2002, at 07:33 PM, David Epstein wrote: Has anybody found a good way to make the standard Undo command apply to specific scripted routines? It seems pretty straightforward to store the status quo ante situation, and catch an undo command that would put things back. The problem is how to make that option expire as soon as it should. Certainly I'd want the undo-this-routine option to disappear if the user has since done something that Metacard itself makes undoable (like typing in a field); or if the user has gone to some other card. Is there a reasonable list of system messages that might be intercepted and taken as signals to clear the custom undo buffer? Is there some way to detect when MC's own undo option (for its own undoable routines) has become (or whether it remains) available? Thanks for any thoughts. David Epstein Darn good question. I too have wondered what would be the best way to implement this vary standard feature. The problem can be daunting if you have an app that is complex and needs to support that feature everywhere. Sorry for I do not know the answer to your question. But I will be reading to see if someone out there does. -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: OS X Standalone...
On Thursday, January 10, 2002, at 03:05 PM, Richard MacLemale wrote: A couple of questions for making an OS X standalone I'm hoping someone can answer... 1. The about... trick where you put your about message at the end of your help menu - does that work different under OS X, or the same? There is a bug when handling this. All you have to do is make sure you have 4 or more things in the help button above the standard stuff. Then it will work as you expect. eg: Help - Other CANELA Software Products Contact Information - About 2. Under OS X, standalones that you build still have the MetaCard menu like stacks do running under MetaCard Carbon. Obviously if I'm building a standalone application, I don't want it to be named MetaCard in the menu bar. How do I change this? This is more work. One option is to download the latest developer tools from apples site. Go to the developer section. It is a big download. It will install all kinds of neat tools some of which you will need for icons and handling the menu you are talking about. The data is stored in a resource called: plst 1. Use resedit in classic to get the current data from your standalone from this plst resource. Copy it. 2. Paste it into bbedit 3. Open the file you save from bbedit into PropertyListEditor. Change the needed items from there. You can edit it with an XML editor or the application from apple called PropertyListEditor (which comes with the developer tools download). Save that for later use if you want. There is a dump button in that app that will put the xml data into a blank field near the bottom of the screen. Copy that. 4. Go back to resedit and paste it over the old data that you copied originally. 5. Save those changes in resedit. 6. You are done. Let me know if you have any probs doing this. Other than that, everything else seems very straightforward... :) Richard MacLemale Instructional Technology Specialist James W. Mitchell High School http://mitchellonline.pasco.k12.fl.us -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Print dialogs on the Mac
On Saturday, December 29, 2001, at 09:12 PM, David Epstein wrote: To show the Mac OS 9 page setup and print dialogs (whose exact appearance depends on the printer currently chosen), I can use the Metacard commands open printing with dialog and answer printer, respectively. But is there any way to know what the user has chosen in these dialogs? For example, can my script take account of whether the user has chosen landscape or portrait, or reduce or enlarge? Many thanks. David Epstein ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard While I do not think you can read what they select from the driver dialogs, they will function as the user uses the different features. -Mark ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: record sound bug?
On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 10:03 AM, cowhead wrote: There used to be a send bug reports to. on this mailing list...but it seems to have disappeared. Anyway, back to the old record sound saga... It's great that this has now been implemented in metacard (I've been forced to use weird combinations of superCard/metaCard stacks before this) but I can only get it to work well when using the with dialog command...eg. ask file what record sound IT with dialog This opens up a dialog stack, which offers all the 'recordFormats()' options, and there are quite a few that sound really good on a Mac (OS 9.1x, Japanese) and take up very little memory space as well. Unfortunately, if you try to record directly in these formats, without going through the dialog, it doesn't sound good anymore. Moreover, the quality level makes no difference. e.g. record sound file it as fl64 with best quality sounds pretty bad, in contrast to the fl64 (floating point 64bit) recorded through the 'dialog', which is crystal clear. I suspect the culprit is in the quality level, which seems to have no effect in the direct (non dialog) script. I suspect that the dialog is recording as 'best' but not the direct script. I wish I could see what the 'sound settings' dialog stack script looks like, but I can't find it. I've tried putting quotes around the quality in the direct script (e.g with best quality), but the compiler will not accept this. In summ, can anyone show me a direct recording script for any format which sounds really good on the Mac? Or is there something broken here that might ought to be fixed (my opinion). I don't want to have to go through the dialog each time. Thanks! mark mitchell IMHO, something is wrong. I can get it to record, but it is only in the Qualcomm PureVoice,Qclp. This one records very clearly. My only problem is that it does not get the very beginning of a sound and sometime it does. Sometimes it puts the first 2 seconds at the end of the recorded sound. When I can get around to understanding it more, I will bug report it more clearly to Scott. I use the following script in a record button: record sound file tName as Qclp --tName is a variable for the sound file Stop button: stop recording I would be interested to know if this happens for you. Have only done most of my testing on OS 10 -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [Metacard] OS X: 'icns' resources?
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 05:49 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: on 28/11/01 9:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 04:44 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: on 27/11/01 7:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graphic Converter has one nice touch as it will allow you to save the file as an .ico file for Windows. I've not been able to set the mask on the .ico file for Windows using Graphic Converter. Does anyone have a Mac solution for that (or is there something in Graphic Converter that I've missed)? You can use the Add Alpha/Mask Channel under the effects menu in Graphic Con. to add that chanel. What every you paint as black on that channel will be transparent. Then save the file as a .tiff for the Mac. Right, but then I still don't have a .ico with a mask? Ok. I see. I am just not reading carefully here. You need this for Windows. I have not done that for Windows. I just use a win application called: Axialis AX-Icons 4.5 Here are the steps I go through to make my icons. 1. Make it in a graphic program on the Mac. 2. Save the file on the Mac as a .pict or .tiff 3. Dimensions are at 128x128 (this is for the max size on OS 10) ( i can always size it down to 32x32 for windows) From there I can make my Mac or PC icon. For Mac 7-9 1. copy image to clipboard 2. open up res edit 3. create the bndl resource and paste it into there (skipping some small details) For Mac 10 1. Open up iconComposer 2. Import image .tiff into the available sizes 3. Save file (which creates the .icns file) 4. Open up Graphic Con.. and use the resource copy to... option 5. This puts it into an icns resource in my MC created app For Win 1. I work on a mac running virtual pc (this makes it easy for me) 2. open GC on Mac. copy image to clipboard (sometimes I save file as an .ico file in 16 colors) 3. run vpc and start up the win icon editor: Axialis AX-Icons 4.5 4. paste file into editor (sometimes I open the saved .ico file from GC) 5. Make any needed changes and save file as a .ico file that MC can import. If you are running on a PC only and do not have access to a Mac with VPC, then there is a step missing there that would require you to use a network, disk, or e-mail to get the .ico file created on a Mac over. Or you could just create the file on the PC and go from there. I have not found a need for a mask on the PC side. In fact, I did not use a mask ever until I got to OS 10. I guess the PC icon editor I use does it for you in the background. I think I will save this e-mail for later use. Could be useful. May need more explanation on resedit for new users though. Don't be surprised if you see it again in the future on the list. ;) -Mark ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [Metacard] OS X: 'icns' resources?
On Thursday, November 29, 2001, at 02:54 AM, Vinciane BAUDOUX wrote: Maybe I am not clear on what you want to do with your these icons. 1. Do you want to import them into a stack and use them as images in the stack? 2. Do you want to import them over to a PC and use the icon as and application icon? Both, actually. Vinciane. I can help you with option #2. I just wrote another message about this. Take a look at that one with the same subject. If you need more details, let me know. -Mark ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [Metacard] OS X: 'icns' resources?
On Wednesday, November 28, 2001, at 03:27 AM, Vinciane BAUDOUX wrote: I want to import the icons, not export them, i.e., I can use graphic converter on the Mac to import Win icons, but what can I use with Win 95 do perform the same job ? Thanks, Vinciane. Maybe I am not clear on what you want to do with your these icons. 1. Do you want to import them into a stack and use them as images in the stack? 2. Do you want to import them over to a PC and use the icon as and application icon? -Mark ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [Metacard] OS X: 'icns' resources?
On Tuesday, November 27, 2001, at 06:27 AM, Vinciane BAUDOUX wrote: On the subject of icons : is there any Windows utility which can easily import Mac icons, and vice-versa ? Thanks, Vinciane Baudoux. At their root level, they are nothing more than small images. You can create them on the platform of your choice. I like to use the Mac. Either Photoshop or Graphic Converter will do (as well as any other graphic program). Graphic Converter has one nice touch as it will allow you to save the file as an .ico file for Windows. Currently, you must make sure that the PC icon file is 16 colors. That is the big limitation there. On the Mac, it can be 256 colors. The icon program I use on the PC is: Axialis AX-Icons 4.5 Those of you who run Virtual PC on the Mac can simply copy the image from the Mac side to the clipboard and paste it right into your icon editor of choice on the PC side. Save it and your are done! -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
[Metacard] Re: CGI under OS X via Darwin Success...
On Saturday, November 24, 2001, at 01:24 PM, Richard MacLemale wrote: ...snip... This unlocks the candy store for me. One thought goes through my mind, though... Suppose an individual were to download the darwin engine, and the home and tools stacks... And suppose they install them and write some neato mt scripts for their OS X based web site. Scott says that the script limit does not apply to the Darwin engine when running in non-GUI mode. Doesn't this mean that anyone who wanted to could do CGI stuff with MetaCard for free? If this is intentional, then it should be, well, advertised. Maybe as a way of getting some UNIX or Mac OS X people in the door. MetaTalk is a kabillion times easier to learn than Perl... Just thinkin' out loud. :) Richard MacLemale Instructional Technology Specialist James W. Mitchell High School Thanks Richard for writing in. This is something I want to play with one day myself. Very inspirational. -Mark Talluto ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: [Metacard] OS X: 'icns' resources?
On Monday, November 26, 2001, at 12:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Anyone know where on Apple's site they have the info on how to create 'icns' resources? I downloaded apples developer tools. It that tool set you will find the following app: iconComposer It has the ability to import .pict and .tiff images. I have found the .tiff to work best. You must create the icon in the following sizes: 128x128, 48x48, 32x32, 16x16 if you want the icon to size nicely. They must also contain an alpha mask. I used Graphic Converter to do that. The last step is to get this data into your saved app under the icns resource. This was tricky because ResEdit only copies in 32k at a time from the clipboard. I found that on average the icons were from 60-70k in size. I just learned from poking around that Graphic Converter can transfer the whole resource over in a couple of mouse clicks with its copy file into resource menu option. That is a big time saver. If you want that iconComposer app, just let me know. I can simply email it over to you since it is a free app for all developers. I am more than happy to explain any of this in more detail to anyone interested. -Mark Talluto I was able to trick their crippled version of the Google engine into providing useful results for 'plst', but for the 'icns' resources needed to complete an OS X delivery I could find only header info, but no tools or other practical advice for anyone not using SaRez. ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Recording sound
On Tuesday, November 20, 2001, at 06:04 AM, Signe Marie Sanne wrote: Hello to all, Using MC2.4beta1 build 4 - I have struggled with Tuvias stack RecordSound from which I have taken: record sound lydfil with dialog put the seconds into nsecs repeat while recording is true wait for 0.20 seconds with messages set the thumbposition of scrollbar 1 to recordloudness() end repeat put recorded for the seconds - nsecsseconds On Mac 8.5.1 I have been able to record my own voice with either ulaw, ima4 or mace 3:1 chosen in the dialog box and with 22.050 khz (8 or 16 bits). On PC the same choices (all saved as mysound.mov) record only at half speed. If anyone has managed to record on PC, please, send me a recipe. Thanks in advance. Have you tried the built-in sound recording feature in 2.4 and 2.4.1? While I have yet to try it on the PC, I have used it with great success on the Mac. You should download the latest version of 2.4.1 while you are at it. I have a fast mirror of all the MC files at: www.clearsoftware.com/mcmirror.html -Mark Talluto Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: rotation property (was: Inquiry for graphics external)
On Wednesday, November 14, 2001, at 01:13 AM, Sjoerd Op 't Land wrote: Tereza Snyder wrote/ schreef: MetaCard's implementation introduces very noticeable distortions, especially with images that have alpha channels. I think this is a quite important subject, because it is one of the things that Macromedia Flash does better than MC/RR. Anyway I feel that this 'rotate' command that we have now is a step in the right direction, but definitely not 'it'. I think a better solution would be that every object (I mean every field, button, graphic etc,etc) had a 'rotation' property, which could be set to some value between 0 and 359 degrees. This solution would involve storing the original image(,field,button...) but would take care for not distorting the image. How do others think about this? Regards, / Groeten, Sjoerd I think that this would be fabulous! -Mark Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: OS X for Macintosh
On Thursday, November 1, 2001, at 04:23 AM, Jack Rarick wrote: Could anyone briefly explain to the list where we are in terms of developing standalones for OS X? I have a few in the Classic envirnoment without a hitch - but would prefer to have a native app. Did I use the correct terms? Thanks in advance! Jack Rarick Braintree Athletic Systems There is an issue of getting the About your app name feature to work. Currently you must use res edit and plst editor available in the developers tools from apple to properly show your app name under the File menu. -Mark Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: Visual effects and/or QT effects
On Tuesday, October 30, 2001, at 09:42 AM, Domi wrote: I made a simple slideshow stack. I wanted to add some visual effects between the pictures,but some of them don't function correctly (Mac OS 8.6, MC 24b4 starter kit): barn door: OK iris: striped screen push: striped screen revea: OK scroll: OK wipe: striped screen zoom: OK Then I tested the "answer effect" command: I am given a number of characters -- that seems to be code (QT 502) ! So, what? -- Regards, Dominique Dominique, Currently (version 2.4) you will have to deal with visual effects that are built-in and those that are from QT differently. I use the following handler to deal with visual effects. Visual effects that are from the answer effect dialog have a long sequence of characters. I store these in separate fields. Then I just call their contents when I need them and put that into a variable (teffect). I store the speed in (tspeed). If you have any questions, just let me know. I am working heavily with them myself right now. on visualEffecto global teffect, tspeed, qtFX --SET UP VISUAL EFFECTS THAT NEED THE ANSWER EFFECT DIALOG if teffect is "radial" then put fld "radial" of card "setup" of stack "info" into teffect --handle speed if tspeed is "very slow" then visual effect teffect very slow if tspeed is "slow" then visual effect teffect slow if tspeed is "fast" then visual effect teffect fast if tspeed is "very fast" then visual effect teffect very fast exit visualEffecto if teffect is in qtFX then do "visual effect" quote teffect quote tspeed --QT EFFECTS else do "visual effect" teffect tspeed --BUILT-IN EFFECTS end if end visualEffecto -Mark
Re: An MC Carbon Observation
On Thursday, October 25, 2001, at 02:50 PM, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hi Everyone, I've noticed that the line go to next card placed in a button under MC 2.4 Carbon takes me to the next card as expected, but it also causes the next stack to be placed on top of the one I'm navigating. Any thoughts? Greg I have seen this as well, but have not bug reported it because I can not create a solid recipe. Plus, it just does not happen all of the time. -Mark Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
