RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-18 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello,

Here's some help :

> The following puts up a "compiler error"...
>   get "send open file" && tURL && "to Finder"
>   do it as AppleScript
>   put the result

You are not quoting your arguments. Try this :

   put quote & tURL & quote into tURL
   put quote & "Finder" & quote into tAPP
   get "send open file" && tURL && "to" && tAPP
   do it as AppleScript
   put the result

> Any offerings? Still much needed here!

Here is an AppleScript droplet that tells you what the
Creator and Filetype of the file dropped on it are. It
is coded as a droplet, but it could be adapted such
that the fileReference is passed a parameter. An
*easy* task that will be left to the reader to
accomplish.

http://ufp.uqam.ca/pan/misc/ShowCreatorAndType.sit

Hope this helps,

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RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-18 Thread Ken Ray
Hugh,

You do this applescript:

tell application "Finder"
  open file 
end tell

Works like a charm (but remember you need to have ":"-delimited paths).

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The Original:

 

Ken wrote:

> I tried it without the "file:///" in OS X as well as with other
> variations with less than three slashes. All did nothing. Perhaps it's
> the fact they are "/"-delimited paths that they require "file:///" ? 


As Brian points out, the third / is the first character of the Mac
path...

 send "file://" & "/Alice/Desktop Folder/myGif.gif" to program
"Finder" with "GURLGURL"

should happily attempt to open the file in the default Browser. This is
fine, so long as the Browser can display the filePath like images and
simple text. But... What's the syntax to open ANY file with it's native
application when you don't know the filetype-creator? It must be
possible as the Finder does it when you double-click an icon on the
desktop. I'm sure that sending the appropriate AppleScript to Finder
would do the trick, as in...

 put "send open file"&&tURL&& "to Finder" into tScript
 do tScript as AppleScript
 put the result

(okay, this puts "compiler error", but that's because I don't know
AppleScript!)

I suspect there will be syntax differences between MacOS and OSX
(perhaps "file" vs "location")

Any offerings? Still much needed here! 

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RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-18 Thread FlexibleLearning
The Original:

 

Ken wrote:

> I tried it without the "file:///" in OS X as well as with other
> variations with less than three slashes. All did nothing. Perhaps it's
> the fact they are "/"-delimited paths that they require "file:///" ? 


As Brian points out, the third / is the first character of the Mac path...

 send "file://" & "/Alice/Desktop Folder/myGif.gif" to program "Finder" with "GURLGURL"

should happily attempt to open the file in the default Browser. This is fine, so long as the Browser can display the filePath like images and simple text. But... What's the syntax to open ANY file with it's native application when you don't know the filetype-creator? It must be possible as the Finder does it when you double-click an icon on the desktop. I'm sure that sending the appropriate AppleScript to Finder would do the trick, as in...

 put "send open file"&&tURL&& "to Finder" into tScript
 do tScript as AppleScript
 put the result

(okay, this puts "compiler error", but that's because I don't know AppleScript!)

I suspect there will be syntax differences between MacOS and OSX (perhaps "file" vs "location")

Any offerings? Still much needed here! 

/H


Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-17 Thread Brian Yennie
I tried it without the "file:///" in OS X as well as with other
variations with less than three slashes. All did nothing. Perhaps it's
the fact they are "/"-delimited paths that they require "file:///" ?
I would suspect this is true. "file://" (with two colons) is really the 
proper protocol, as it corresponds to "http://";, "ftp://";, etc.

Using "file://" is really just forming a proper URL- the oddity is that 
file paths also start with a slash, so you get the three slashes. But 
if you think of URLs as a protocol followed by a path, it starts to 
make sense- especially if you are accustomed to seeing "http://"; by now.

FWIW

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RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-17 Thread Ken Ray
Hugh,

I tried it without the "file:///" in OS X as well as with other
variations with less than three slashes. All did nothing. Perhaps it's
the fact they are "/"-delimited paths that they require "file:///" ? 

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Ken suggests that this syntax works for Macs...



but is the "file:///" actually necessary?

I understood that  works
fine on both flavours.

Not sure whether "/" has to be replaced by ":" as the delimiter,
however.

Anyone care to confirm these points for MacOS and MacOSX? I have a
vested interest in the outcome!

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-15 Thread FlexibleLearning
Ken suggests that this syntax works for Macs...

    

but is the "file:///" actually necessary?

I understood that  works fine on both flavours.

Not sure whether "/" has to be replaced by ":" as the delimiter, however.

Anyone care to confirm these points for MacOS and MacOSX? I have a vested interest in the outcome!

/H


RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-15 Thread Ken Ray
Ben,

> If you don't care about the file type/creator, you may be 
> able to get away with nullifying those, and asking the Finder 
> to open the URL - but you'll still have to decide how many 
> slashes to use.

Actually, it seems that it doesn't matter if you tell the Finder to open
the URL; three slashes works for Safari, Opera, IE, Mozilla, OmniWeb and
Camino (I didn't get a chance to test iCab). The approach I used (after
stripping file type/creator was taking the path to the file, removing
the first slash if there was one and then:

  send "file:///" & tPath to program "Finder" with "GURLGURL"

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-15 Thread Ben Rubinstein
on 9/8/03 7:13 am, Richard Gaskin wrote

> Yep, the same ol' question:  how do I launch a local file in the default
> browser on Mac OS X?
> 
> And for future reference:  Where is the definitive answer archived?

Richard,

Probably too late because I've just been catching up with a bunch of mailing
list mail; but my answer to this is "it's a real pain".

The standard way as others have noted is to use AppleScript to ask the
Finder to open the URL.  This works for "http://"; URLs, but for "file://"
URLs it tends to start looking at type and creator, and sending them to that
app instead.  You may be able to get by setting the filetype to "";
I dabbled with this, adding a preference to my app to do this, but although
it seemed to work in my first casual test on X, my first X user said it
didn't help him - in any case my app really wants to create files assigned
to BBEdit, but preview them in the browser, so I looked further.

As others have noted, the standard way to ask a browser to look at a URL
(local or remote) on MacOS has always been through the GURL ("openurl")
AppleEvent.  This was never mandated, nor has it been removed: it was only
ever a convention, but it was widely observed.  IE or Netscape (I think the
latter) introduced it, and all other browsers implemented it - except !?£$&
Safari, which of course is rapidly becoming the default browser on an awful
lot of MacOS X desktops.  This was the first bug I reported to Safari.
Safari instead introduces its own suite of AppleEvents - typically arrogant
Apple behaviour.

As if this wasn't bad enough, there is considerable disagreement about the
exact format of a file URL, because MacOS X paths start with a "/".  So
should it be
"file:/Users/fred/blah.html"
Or
"file:///Users/fred/blah.html"
or
"file://Users/fred/blah.html"


The answer is it depends who you ask.  MetaTalk/Transcript like the first
form.  Safari (v51) and IE 5.2 want the second.  Opera and iCab want the
third.

So... essentially you need a routine which knows which browser it's going to
use.  For my app I've currently given the MacOS X users a special preference
in which they choose the browser, overriding their system-wide preference.
I haven't tried retrieving that system-wide preference as some have
indicated - it might work.   So my URL launching routine (for X) knows the
browser to talk to; and depending on the browser, adjusts the number of
slashes following "file:"; and then depending on the browser, either uses
the openurl event to get that file viewed, or a more complicated script if
the app is Safari.  Of course, all of this is fragile; if the browser isn't
one of the four I know about, I make a guess about how many slashes, and
trust it implements the openurl event.  And if you've chosen to name your
copy of iCab "Safari", the results will be disappointing.

If you don't care about the file type/creator, you may be able to get away
with nullifying those, and asking the Finder to open the URL - but you'll
still have to decide how many slashes to use.

Hope this helps (?!?)

 
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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brian Yennie wrote:

> If there's not a better way, you could work around this by creating a
> dummy HTML file that just redirects the browser to the correct file.
> That'll get you in the right app, *then* open the file.

But how to get the default browser so I can obtain its creator code?

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin
Ken Ray wrote:

> Richard, you posted this to the MC list last year under the header :
> 
> Found it:  You have to explicitely tell the Finder, like this:
> 
> put "tell application ""e&"Finder""e&cr&"open ""e& \
> tFilePath "e&cr&"end tell" into s
> do s as AppleScript
> 
> See: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-January/000569.html
> 
> But I just checked it and it doesn't work for me.

Same here:  it launches the local file, but in the application that matches
the file's creator code and not the default browser. :(

> I'll keep looking...

Thanks.  Hopefully one of us will solve this once and for all...

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-15 Thread Brian Yennie
Still works... I did miss the "local" though and skipped my eyes to the 
"browser".

In any case, try this form:

tell application "Finder"
  open location "file:///Users/yennie/Desktop/test.html"
end tell
The trick seems to be adding the browser-style protocol to the front 
for local files: "file://"
You should have 3 slashes total- the third is part of the file path.

HTH

Brian

Uh, Brian... he mentioned a "local file" not a web site. Will this 
still
work?

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tell application "Finder"
open location "http://www.apple.com";
end tell
... "do" as AppleScript of course

Yep, the same ol' question:  how do I launch a local file in the
default
browser on Mac OS X?
And for future reference:  Where is the definitive answer archived?
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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin
sims wrote:

> If I use:
> 
> set this_item to ¬
> alias "Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Pictures:iPhoto
> Library:2002:10:29:taufeg.jpg"
> tell application "Internet Explorer"
> open this_item
> end tell
> 
> A file which I created with ColorIt or PhotoShop will launch with the
> indicated browser.
> I suspect that the alias has some magical powers.

That will open fine in IE, but what if the user's default browser is Safari?

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser #3

2003-08-14 Thread sims
At 9:45 +0200 8/9/03, sims wrote:
If I use:

set this_item to ¬
	alias "Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Pictures:iPhoto 
Library:2002:10:29:taufeg.jpg"
tell application "Internet Explorer"
	open this_item
end tell

A file which I created with ColorIt or PhotoShop will launch with 
the indicated browser.
I suspect that the alias has some magical powers.

Is that what you are looking for?
NOTE   -   I never actually create an alias nor does applescript 
create an alias (as far as
I can tell) but it uses it as some sort of reference to enable the launch.
atb

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-14 Thread Brian Yennie
Er... I guess I should probably get some sleep: my solution has this 
problem also for files that don't normally open in a browser.

If there's not a better way, you could work around this by creating a 
dummy HTML file that just redirects the browser to the correct file. 
That'll get you in the right app, *then* open the file.

There must be a better way buried somewhere in AppleScript...

Brian

Same here:  it launches the local file, but in the application that 
matches
the file's creator code and not the default browser. :(
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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser #3

2003-08-14 Thread Brian Yennie
FWIW, there's also this nugget:

~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.internetconfig.plist

You can also dig around in:

~/Library/Preferences/LaunchServices.plist

It seems that you can use these to find the actual applications 
assigned to various file formats.

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RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-11 Thread Ken Ray
Richard, you posted this to the MC list last year under the header :

 Found it:  You have to explicitely tell the Finder, like this:

put "tell application ""e&"Finder""e&cr&"open ""e& \
tFilePath "e&cr&"end tell" into s
do s as AppleScript

See: http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-January/000569.html

But I just checked it and it doesn't work for me. I'll keep looking...

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> Yep, the same ol' question:  how do I launch a local file in 
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> 
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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-11 Thread Scott Rossi
On 8/9/03 9:04 AM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> If there's not a better way, you could work around this by creating a
>> dummy HTML file that just redirects the browser to the correct file.
>> That'll get you in the right app, *then* open the file.
> 
> But how to get the default browser so I can obtain its creator code?

I'm not sure how to extract the above, but I'm pretty sure that any HTML
file without specific creator/type info will automagically open in the
default browser -- if this is your concern you shouldn't need to worry about
it working.

Regards,

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser #3

2003-08-09 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brian Yennie wrote:

> FWIW, there's also this nugget:
> 
> ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.internetconfig.plist
> 
> You can also dig around in:
> 
> ~/Library/Preferences/LaunchServices.plist
> 
> It seems that you can use these to find the actual applications
> assigned to various file formats.

Do those files have the same name in all localized versions of the OS?

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-09 Thread sims
Yep, the same ol' question:  how do I launch a local file in the default
browser on Mac OS X?
And for future reference:  Where is the definitive answer archived?

 Richard Gaskin


If I use:

set this_item to ¬
	alias "Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Pictures:iPhoto 
Library:2002:10:29:taufeg.jpg"
tell application "Internet Explorer"
	open this_item
end tell

A file which I created with ColorIt or PhotoShop will launch with the 
indicated browser.
I suspect that the alias has some magical powers.

Is that what you are looking for?

atb

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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser #2

2003-08-09 Thread sims
At 9:45 +0200 8/9/03, sims wrote:
If I use:

set this_item to ¬
	alias "Macintosh HD:Users:jimsims:Pictures:iPhoto 
Library:2002:10:29:taufeg.jpg"
tell application "Internet Explorer"
	open this_item
end tell

A file which I created with ColorIt or PhotoShop will launch with 
the indicated browser.
I suspect that the alias has some magical powers.

Is that what you are looking for?


I send that from a hidden Rev fld but have also done so with a Rev 
custom property.

atb

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RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-09 Thread Ken Ray
OK, Richard, I got it... you need to shell() to the "cp" to copy the
file to a temporary filename; doing so will strip the type/creator and
then you can launch it with "open" via appleScript (after converting the
POSIX path to a normal mac path, of course):

on launchit pPath
  put pPath into tDestPath
  set the itemDel to "/"
  put "temp.html" into last item of tDestPath
  get shell("cp" && pPath && tDestPath)
  put "tell application" && q("Finder") into s
  put cr & "set f to" && q(tDestPath) && " as POSIX file" after s
  put cr & "set p to f as text" after s
  put cr & "open file p" & cr & "end tell" after s
  do s as AppleScript
end launchIt

function q pWhat
  return quote & pWhat & quote
end q


This should work...

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> 
> 
> Ken Ray wrote:
> 
> > Richard, you posted this to the MC list last year under the header :
> > 
> > Found it:  You have to explicitely tell the Finder, like this:
> > 
> > put "tell application ""e&"Finder""e&cr&"open ""e& \ 
> > tFilePath "e&cr&"end tell" into s do s as AppleScript
> > 
> > See: 
> > http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/metacard/2002-January/000569.html
> > 
> > But I just checked it and it doesn't work for me.
> 
> Same here:  it launches the local file, but in the 
> application that matches the file's creator code and not the 
> default browser. :(
> 
> > I'll keep looking...
> 
> Thanks.  Hopefully one of us will solve this once and for all...
> 
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RE: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-09 Thread Ken Ray
Uh, Brian... he mentioned a "local file" not a web site. Will this still
work?

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> 
> 
> tell application "Finder"
> open location "http://www.apple.com";
> end tell
> 
> ... "do" as AppleScript of course
> 
> > Yep, the same ol' question:  how do I launch a local file in the
> > default
> > browser on Mac OS X?
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Re: Launching a local file in the default browser

2003-08-08 Thread Brian Yennie
tell application "Finder"
   open location "http://www.apple.com";
end tell
... "do" as AppleScript of course

Yep, the same ol' question:  how do I launch a local file in the 
default
browser on Mac OS X?

And for future reference:  Where is the definitive answer archived?
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