[meteorite-list] New goodies in Tucson
Hello again, Tucson is jumping and I met an old collector today and bought some amazing meteorites! Lets jump right in. First is a CANADIAN fall, Benton (LL6). This meteorite only weighed a total of 2840 grams, two stones fell in Porten Settlement, New Brunswick on January 16, 1949. I have 3 pieces, ALL fragments with fusion crust. This is the first time and certainly the last that this meteorite will be up for sale! Get it now you Canadian meteorite lovers! 4.22 grams $400.002.30 grams $230.001.91 grms $SOLDCamel Donga, we all know this eucrite well, superb flow lines, glassy fusion crust, one of my all time favorites and VERY hard to get these days. I got 4 super nice individuals. 49.10 grams, super flow lines and nice shape. $1400 for list members only. 37.46 grams, again super nice piece flow lines everywhere. $1068.0035.20 grams, flow lines out the kazoo, lipping, nicely oriented! $990.00 12.94 grams, another gem, $375.00 Zagami, 1.20 gram partslice, no crust. $400.00 Thanks Mike Farmerhttp://www.meteoriteguy.com/index
Re: [meteorite-list] ppppparadoxxxxx
I would hypothesize that there is no great difference between dreaming @ nite and death, ..but between death and waking awarness, a great chasym can be beheld... Just my and Juan Matas' opinion. -Original Message-From: Michael Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Thursday, February 07, 2002 1:31 AMSubject: [meteorite-list] paradox I know that God exists because HE has talked to me when I have listened. I have also had communication with the ones that call themselves "The Ancient Ones". No I am not a basket case.at least not yet. Clue in Life: Seek and you Shall Find, Ask and it Shall be Given. Find What? Given What? Seeking and Asking can be dangerous! I would go to the list with this message but there are those that are afraid of a God. Many people only seek GOD because they are afraid.of death. For me there is not deathI am immortalmaybe not the I am nowbut nevertheless immortal. By the same token I don't understand LIFE as we call it. For me there isn't a separation. If you wish to go to the list with a reply, I don't mind whatsoever. I challenge you to. Let's continue this thread. Sincerely, Michael Casper, Ithaca, NY
[meteorite-list] The Macovich Room
Folks, and all... I am in the Macovich Room again at InnSuites room 404 and what a display Darryl has set up! You MUST see it! It is eye candy! And really the pieces to bid on, many without reserve! The Shergotty... The Lunars... Mocs... Rare finds, and classic falls... The pallasites... Stop by, say hi and register to bid for these and other pieces. And if you can't come to Tucson check out the auction page at: http://www.macovich.com The last of the Glorieta is here, too. Such beautiful slices! And one is in the auction. (But I really like the endpiece which is not in the auction, the piece that I first touched as I dug it up) Steve Schoner; AMS ___ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new on the list !!!!
Hey Casper ,whats up? mike - Original Message - From: Simon de Boer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:06 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] new on the list I ve only been on the list two weeks and already I have others writing submissions in which they say " Simon thinks " and "Simon wouldn't buy " "Simon seys click and bid " Quit trying to confuse or influence me I know you are trying to be helpful Simon
[meteorite-list] ?
This 21.5 gram exceptional part slice is worth the look! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1070483638 Started at $1.00 with NO reserve. Ends this Thursday evening, tomorrow! The high bidder is thinking, "please don't bid", but it is totally up to you what you really want to do. This is for sure, someone is going to get a very excellent Historic meteorite FALL for their collection! Best regards, Roman Jirasek www.meteoritelabels.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] ppppparadoxxxxx
Ah, come on now Mikey, can't you do better than that? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: Michael Casper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] paradox eat shit - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Michael Casper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] paradox > Anything so you don't look like the biggest fool on the list huh Mikey? For > someone who is such a big bad dealer it also seems rather odd that you've > been begging people to buy your stuff lately. Try running an auction for > some Beanie Babies and see if it helps your book auction the same way your > meteorite auction helps your coin business. > > Rhett Bourland > www.asteroidmodels.com > www.asteroidmodels.com/personal > www.meteoritecollectors.org > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael > Casper > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [meteorite-list] paradox > > > I know that God exists because HE has talked to me when I have listened. I > have also had communication with the ones that call themselves "The Ancient > Ones". No I am not a basket case.at least not yet. Clue in Life: > Seek and you Shall Find, Ask and it Shall be Given. Find What? Given What? > Seeking and Asking can be dangerous! > I would go to the list with this message but there are those that are afraid > of a God. Many people only seek GOD because they are afraid.of death. > For me there is not deathI am immortalmaybe not the I am nowbut > nevertheless immortal. By the same token I don't understand LIFE as we > call it. For me there isn't a separation. > If you wish to go to the list with a reply, I don't mind whatsoever. I > challenge you to. Let's continue this thread. Sincerely, Michael Casper, > Ithaca, NY > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] ppppparadoxxxxx
Anything so you don't look like the biggest fool on the list huh Mikey? For someone who is such a big bad dealer it also seems rather odd that you've been begging people to buy your stuff lately. Try running an auction for some Beanie Babies and see if it helps your book auction the same way your meteorite auction helps your coin business. Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael Casper Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] paradox I know that God exists because HE has talked to me when I have listened. I have also had communication with the ones that call themselves "The Ancient Ones". No I am not a basket case.at least not yet. Clue in Life: Seek and you Shall Find, Ask and it Shall be Given. Find What? Given What? Seeking and Asking can be dangerous! I would go to the list with this message but there are those that are afraid of a God. Many people only seek GOD because they are afraid.of death. For me there is not deathI am immortalmaybe not the I am nowbut nevertheless immortal. By the same token I don't understand LIFE as we call it. For me there isn't a separation. If you wish to go to the list with a reply, I don't mind whatsoever. I challenge you to. Let's continue this thread. Sincerely, Michael Casper, Ithaca, NY __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ppppparadoxxxxx
I know that God exists because HE has talked to me when I have listened. I have also had communication with the ones that call themselves "The Ancient Ones". No I am not a basket case.at least not yet. Clue in Life: Seek and you Shall Find, Ask and it Shall be Given. Find What? Given What? Seeking and Asking can be dangerous! I would go to the list with this message but there are those that are afraid of a God. Many people only seek GOD because they are afraid.of death. For me there is not deathI am immortalmaybe not the I am nowbut nevertheless immortal. By the same token I don't understand LIFE as we call it. For me there isn't a separation. If you wish to go to the list with a reply, I don't mind whatsoever. I challenge you to. Let's continue this thread. Sincerely, Michael Casper, Ithaca, NY
[meteorite-list] Bob Hagg ??
Wondering why I didn¹t see Bob Hagg in this meteorite lists. Is he too famous to be with us in this lists? Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Energy/Matter/Paradox
>I know that God exists because HE has talked to me when I have >listened. I have also had communication with the ones that call >themselves "The Ancient Ones". It's called schizophrenia, you can get medication for it. Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Telescope given to Andre Bordeleau
This was not easy at all:( I got alot of emails. I thought giving it to a family with the most people would be the greatest benefit. Instead I gave it to one child because I felt family members could lean on each other. I hope to pick up more scopes and merteorites in the future and make them avaible for others that requested them. Thank you all for your replys. I felt EVERYONE was serious and genuie in their emails. Rick The following email I would offer the telescope to a 9 year old girl on our street. She is a bright girl but quite lonely. No one her own age to play with. She comes to our place often to play with our dogs (we are childless) and often asks about the sky. I have taken her to see several of my shows at the Planetarium. I think she would thouroughly enjoy the telescope. Thanks for reading Cheers Andre Bordeleau __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Telescope given to Andre Bordeleau
This was not easy at all:( I got alot of emails. I thought giving it to a family with the most people would be the greatest benefit. Instead I gave it to one child because I felt family members could lean on each other. I hope to pick up more scopes and merteorites in the future and make them avaible for others that requested them. Thank you all for your replys. I felt EVERYONE was serious and genuie in their emails. Rick The following email I would offer the telescope to a 9 year old girl on our street. She is a bright girl but quite lonely. No one her own age to play with. She comes to our place often to play with our dogs (we are childless) and often asks about the sky. I have taken her to see several of my shows at the Planetarium. I think she would thouroughly enjoy the telescope. Thanks for reading Cheers Andre Bordeleau __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Energy/Matter/Paradox
Not to put a wet blanket on anyone's exploration of the universe and their place in it... but could we PLEASE get back to the meteorites? I come here to read/learn about my favorite Rocks from Space. An occasional digression doesn't bother me, but I have other newsgroups I go to in order to read religious discussions, Evolution vs. Creation, James Randi's latest hoax-busting, and News of the Weird. I'd like to keep this one devoted to meteorites. Thank you, Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Telescope given to Andre Bordeleau
This was not easy at all:( I got alot of emails. I thought giving it to a family with the most people would be the greatest benefit. Instead I gave it to one child because I felt family members could lean on each other. I hope to pick up more scopes and merteorites in the future and make them avaible for others that requested them. Thank you all for your replys. I felt EVERYONE was serious and genuie in their emails. Rick The following email I would offer the telescope to a 9 year old girl on our street. She is a bright girl but quite lonely. No one her own age to play with. She comes to our place often to play with our dogs (we are childless) and often asks about the sky. I have taken her to see several of my shows at the Planetarium. I think she would thouroughly enjoy the telescope. Thanks for reading Cheers Andre Bordeleau __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: the Big questions
Bob wrote: > What I gather from all this is that man just really doesn't know how it all > began. Just like the chicken or the egg dilemma. Actually, the chicken/egg question is far simpler to answer. Egg came first -- warm-blooded reptile egg. Chickens (birds in general) trace their evolution back to dinosaurs. > I was intrigued by the idea that time and space really doesn't exist except > in our imagination. So, in other words: Man devised time and space > (distance) just so he would have a way of explaining or understanding > his physical existence in the universe, in the here and now. They are useful labels for perceived physical properties (position and velocity). Whether they have any objective reality (or for that matter whether anything does) is an interesting philosophical question -- one that may ultimately be answerable by science. > I reckon I'll have to wait until I "kick the bucket" and ask God for > the answer to all my questions. 42. (Douglas Adams fans will know what I mean). Your decision is logically sound: if there is indeed a God, you can ask away. Of course, He may not choose to oblige you with answers. ;-) On the other hand, if there is no God or whatever you choose to call a Supreme Intelligence, then you won't be around in the hereafter to pose such questions or care about the answers. --Rob
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Energy/Matter/Paradox
Sorry list members, This was a private email. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo Please delete. drtanuki wrote: Dear Bob, : Hi List, WOW AND WOW! I got more than I bargained for. Philosophical theories of Plato, Aristotle and even Zen. Theoretical Physics, Quantum tunneling, E=mc2, energy<>matter. Even taboo religion and God were mentioned. What I gather from all this is that man just really doesn't know how it all began. Just like the chicken or the egg dilemma. Man has lots of ideas, theories, postulates, data and could be this or could be that. But no definitive answer, which is what I expected anyway. I was intrigued by the idea that time and space really doesn't exist except in our imagination. So, in other words: Man devised time and space (distance) just so he would have a way of explaining or understanding his physical existence in the universe, in the here and now. I reckon I'll have to wait until I "kick the bucket" and ask God for the answer to all my questions. This was a good string and I thank all who participated. Bob
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Energy/Matter/Paradox
Dear Bob, Thank you. Know U understand ....1%. I know that God exists because HE has talked to me when I have listened. I have also had communication with the ones that call themselves "The Ancient Ones". No I am not a basket case.at least not yet. Clue in Life: Seek and you Shall Find, Ask and it Shall be Given. Find What? Given What? Seeking and Asking can be dangerous! I would go to the list with this message but there are those that are afraid of a God. Many people only seek GOD because they are afraid.of death. For me there is not deathI am immortalmaybe not the I am nowbut nevertheless immortal. By the same token I don't understand LIFE as we call it. For me there isn't a separation. If you wish to go to the list with a reply, I don't mind whatsoever. I challenge you to. Let's continue this thread. Sincerely, Dirk RossTokyo P.S. Many collect meteorites because the want to touch AWE! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, WOW AND WOW! I got more than I bargained for. Philosophical theories of Plato, Aristotle and even Zen. Theoretical Physics, Quantum tunneling, E=mc2, energy<>matter. Even taboo religion and God were mentioned. What I gather from all this is that man just really doesn't know how it all began. Just like the chicken or the egg dilemma. Man has lots of ideas, theories, postulates, data and could be this or could be that. But no definitive answer, which is what I expected anyway. I was intrigued by the idea that time and space really doesn't exist except in our imagination. So, in other words: Man devised time and space (distance) just so he would have a way of explaining or understanding his physical existence in the universe, in the here and now. I reckon I'll have to wait until I "kick the bucket" and ask God for the answer to all my questions. This was a good string and I thank all who participated. Bob
Re: [meteorite-list] new on the list !!!!
Simon, Then please tell me. Is it "Simon says do this" OR is it "do this"? Michael Casper - Original Message - From: Simon de Boer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] new on the list I ve only been on the list two weeks and already I have others writing submissions in which they say " Simon thinks " and "Simon wouldn't buy " "Simon seys click and bid " Quit trying to confuse or influence me I know you are trying to be helpful Simon
[meteorite-list] Re: Energy/Matter/Paradox
Hi List, WOW AND WOW! I got more than I bargained for. Philosophical theories of Plato, Aristotle and even Zen. Theoretical Physics, Quantum tunneling, E=mc2, energy<>matter. Even taboo religion and God were mentioned. What I gather from all this is that man just really doesn't know how it all began. Just like the chicken or the egg dilemma. Man has lots of ideas, theories, postulates, data and could be this or could be that. But no definitive answer, which is what I expected anyway. I was intrigued by the idea that time and space really doesn't exist except in our imagination. So, in other words: Man devised time and space (distance) just so he would have a way of explaining or understanding his physical existence in the universe, in the here and now. I reckon I'll have to wait until I "kick the bucket" and ask God for the answer to all my questions. This was a good string and I thank all who participated. Bob
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson, ebay
Are you saying that the show is dead and you're sold out of your personal copy of "Rocks From Space"? "We are having a blast" does that mean that business is dead so we're partying? Remember... DRINK RESPONSIBLY! MC - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson, ebay Hello everyone, just a quick Tucson show report. The show is in full swing and very busy. Lots of nice stuff here but meteorites are scarcer than ever before! There are more dealers but not so many meteorites to choose from. Allende and Gibeon are virtually non-existant for a change. Surprisingly there is also not so many NWA's here either. Marvin Kilgore has many nice rare meteorites, Pitt also has alot of beautiful things. Blaine Reed has his usual nice assortment of all kinds of stuff. We are having a blast, snow is gone, warm days and cool nights are back. I am now also sold out of the hardback autographed Rocks from Space books, so Casper can now get some action on ebay. I also have many items ending tonight, most started at one penny! Check them out. http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Thnaks Mike Farmer
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson, ebay
Hi Mike (and list) If you're looking for Allendes and small Gibeons go to our room, Ramada Inn Univ #180, we have several there. An if you want a big gibeon, you can buy the 116 Kg King of Irons too! Eduardo -Original Message- From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 10:41:14 -0600 Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson, ebay > Hello everyone, just a quick Tucson show report. The show is in full > swing and very busy. > Lots of nice stuff here but meteorites are scarcer than ever before! > There are more dealers but not so many meteorites to choose from. > Allende and Gibeon are virtually non-existant for a change. > Surprisingly there is also not so many NWA's here either. Marvin > Kilgore has many nice rare meteorites, Pitt also has alot of beautiful > things. Blaine Reed has his usual nice assortment of all kinds of > stuff. > We are having a blast, snow is gone, warm days and cool nights are > back. > I am now also sold out of the hardback autographed Rocks from Space > books, so Casper can now get some action on ebay. > I also have many items ending tonight, most started at one penny! > Check them out. > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > Thnaks > Mike Farmer > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new on the list !!!!
I ve only been on the list two weeks and already I have others writing submissions in which they say " Simon thinks " and "Simon wouldn't buy " "Simon seys click and bid " Quit trying to confuse or influence me I know you are trying to be helpful Simon
[meteorite-list] Pete Conrad Award for Near-Earth Objects?
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0202/06congress/ Congressmen show support for O'Keefe, NASA budget BY JEFF FOUST SPACEFLIGHT NOW February 6, 2002 [snip] This year will be the final year Rohrabacher will serve as chairman of the space subcommittee because of term limit rules for committee chairs. Rohrabacher plans to use his final year in part to push through legislation he plans to introduce in the near future to establish an award named after the late astronaut Pete Conrad. The award would go each year to the astronomer who discovers the largest near-Earth object, an incentive for more people to look for objects that could pose a hazard to the Earth. "If we got 10,000 young people looking into the sky," he said, "even if they don't find anything it is still a good thing." [snip] Full story here: http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0202/06congress/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson, ebay
Hello everyone, just a quick Tucson show report. The show is in full swing and very busy. Lots of nice stuff here but meteorites are scarcer than ever before! There are more dealers but not so many meteorites to choose from. Allende and Gibeon are virtually non-existant for a change. Surprisingly there is also not so many NWA's here either. Marvin Kilgore has many nice rare meteorites, Pitt also has alot of beautiful things. Blaine Reed has his usual nice assortment of all kinds of stuff. We are having a blast, snow is gone, warm days and cool nights are back. I am now also sold out of the hardback autographed Rocks from Space books, so Casper can now get some action on ebay. I also have many items ending tonight, most started at one penny! Check them out. http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Thnaks Mike Farmer
[meteorite-list] Meteors Go Pop In The Night
http://www.nature.com/nsu/020204/020204-3.html Meteors go pop in the night Recordings of sounds from shooting stars defy explanation. Nature Science Update Philip Ball February 6, 2002 Scientists camping out in the Mongolian snow at minus 30 degrees C have made the first recordings of an elusive sound: the crackle and pop of a meteor shower[1]. Their observations defy all current explanations of what happens when debris burns up on entry to the Earth's atmosphere. "Basically, we are back to the drawing-board," says expedition member Dejan Vinkovic of the University of Kentucky. Some meteor booms are simply acoustic waves like those from supersonic aircraft. But for centuries there have been rumours of more baffling 'electrophonic' noises occurring at the same time as meteors become visible. Because light travels much faster than sound, there should be a delay between the appearance of a meteor and its sound - just as thunder generally comes seconds after a lightning flash. In fact, meteors burn up so high in the atmosphere that this time delay ought to be a few minutes. Yet many observers report hearing pops, buzzes and whistles while sighting a meteor for the first time. The Italian Geminiano Montanari was the first to note this discrepancy in 1676. Reviewing such reports in 1714, the astronomer Edmond Halley concluded that they were merely figments of the imagination. Until now, many other scientists thought so too. Fireball survey Vinkovic was not so sure. He has collected about 700 accounts of meteor noise, and is pursuing dozens of recent claims. The phenomenon was particularly well documented during the spectacular Leonid shower of 1833, when people described sounds resembling "the noise of a child's popgun". Similar reports accompanied two more recent Leonid storms. In 2000, Vinkovic and others established the Global Electrophonic Fireball Survey, to collate such reports worldwide. Next Vinkovic and researchers from the Croatian Physical Society journeyed to a "remote desert-like plain" 20 kilometres from Ulaanbaatar in Mongolia to observe the 1998 Leonid shower. As this area is virtually free from background noise and radio interference, the researchers measured audio and low radio-frequency signals that the meteors triggered. On the radio Why radio signals? Because one of the leading candidate theories is that electrically charged particles streaming behind meteors interact with the Earth's magnetic field and produce radio waves, which cause the electrophonic noises. These radio waves are broadcast to an observer at the speed of light. They could be converted to sound by exciting vibrations in objects at ground level. Very-long-frequency (VLF) radio signals have occasionally been detected alongside meteors. The Croatian team recorded two electrophonic pops but no simultaneous VLF signals. If radio waves do create the pops (as the team still believes), these waves must be of lower frequency than anticipated. No explanation so far proposed explains the measurements made in the Mongolian plains. References 1. Zgrablic, G. et al. Instrumental recording of electrophonic sounds from Leonid fireballs. Journal of Geophysical Research, (in press), (2002). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] To Antarctica And Beyond
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0202060383feb06.story?coll=chi%2Dnewslocal%2Dhed To Antarctica and beyond Geologist finds clues from space By Lynette Kalsnes Chicago Tribune February 6, 2002 Planetary geologist Paul Sipiera squinted into his microscope at a rock that looked like a charcoal briquette and gasped with pleasure. "Bingo," he said. Then he broke into song. After 26 days traveling to Antarctica recently, the Harper College professor was hopeful that his expedition team had discovered at least two rare meteorites among its cache of 33. His first inspection last week at the Palatine college found that the black lump was probably a stony meteorite from an asteroid discovered 200 years ago and the other was a rare meteorite representing less than 1 percent of the 25,000 found. More sophisticated testing must be done to confirm their rarity. "That's what I was hoping we would find in the field," said Sipiera, 53, of Algonquin. "In this case it was a winner." The journey to Antarctica was the geology and astronomy professor's fourth expedition and his sixth trip there. He and nine scientists, explorers, guides and a photographer traveled to the Pecora Escarpment, 330 miles from the nearest human at the South Pole, to collect meteorites and hardy microorganisms that can survive Antarctica's extremes. The group included adventurers David Butts of Algonquin, Elvira Butz of Winnetka and James Pritzker of Chicago, who heads a private investment company and is a member of the billionaire Pritzker family. Meteorites are ancient chunks of the moon, planets and asteroids that have fallen to Earth. They can provide clues about the birth of the solar system and the origin of life, Sipiera said. Sipiera will study his finds at Harper and the University of Illinois at Chicago and will forward the rarest to Alabama's NASA Marshall Space Flight Center, which has more sophisticated equipment. The meteorites will be sliced as thin as an onion skin, analyzed for mineral makeup and added to the books. Sipiera, president and co-founder of the non-profit science education organization Planetary Studies Foundation, was instrumental in building Harper's observatory. He secured the James M. DuPont meteorite collection, one of the world's largest, for the foundation. A Northeastern Illinois University colleague compares Sipiera's treks to a botanist searching for rare plants in a rain forest. "The only way we can get evidence like this is have these very, very brave souls go out into conditions like this," said Paul Poskozim, chairman of the university's chemistry, earth science and physics department. Antarctica is the most ideal place on Earth to find meteorites because it is pristine, Sipiera said. Meteorites fall from space into the deep freeze of Antarctica, where they remain relatively uncontaminated and well-preserved, said astrophysics professor Bruce Dod of Mercer University in Macon, Ga. They lie on the snow, dark spots easily visible in the white landscape of ice and rock. Finding meteorites is like an Easter egg hunt in subzero temperatures. "Paul has contributed tremendously by knowing where ideal places are to go and look for meteorites," said NASA astrobiologist Richard Hoover, who has journeyed to Antarctica and studied meteorites with him. "He can almost smell them in the air." Hoover said Sipiera has tremendous knowledge, has made significant finds and carefully handles and precisely catalogs the specimens. Sipiera's foundation follows scientific and treaty guidelines. Sipiera took local schools on a virtual trek via e-mail and experiments. He has written 28 children's books on scientific subjects. Classes at Hanover Highlands Elementary School in Hanover Park and Elgin's Hillcrest Elementary School charted Sipiera's latest expedition, read journal entries and asked questions via the Internet. The pupils packed snow into cups and predicted melting times, said Hanover Highlands teacher Mary Ann Bilski. They compared the freezing rates of water in a refrigerator's freezer and a chest freezer in the teachers' lounge. "Antarctica is kind of a lost continent in most elementary schools, and now we've learned so much about it," Bilski said. Sipiera attributes his own interest in the physical world to his mother, who would stare at the moon as a girl and marvel about what it was made of. Sipiera got hooked on meteorites after reading children's astronomy books. He took the "Stars" Golden Guide with him to the railroad tracks and found a rock he was sure was a meteorite. He kept the rock until he analyzed it as a graduate student and learned it was just crud from the railroad. He discarded his childhood treasure but kept his fascination. "I really want to go into space, and I'll never have the chance," Sipiera said. "This is the next best thing. I can work with bits and pieces from space." __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PR
[meteorite-list] Re: BID HERE! "ROCKS FROM SPACE" Signed!
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