[meteorite-list] Re: [COMETS] Tucson Pictures
Anne, Thanks so much for posting your Tucson pics. I've been waiting for them and really enjoyed seeing everyone and some beautiful rocks from space as well. Hope to make it there myself one of these years. Until then, I'm glad Denver is just up the road for me for the Denver Show in September. Ginger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello Everybody, > > My pictures of the Tucson 2002 Show are ready for your viewing pleasure!! > Just go to HREF="http://photos.yahoo.com/impactika";>http://photos.yahoo.com/impactika and >click on "Tucson 2002" > > I only wish Yahoo will leave enough room to list the names of all the people, > but that would require a lot of room. :-) > > Next: Inventory of all the nice pieces I brought back (almost done!) > > Any questions or comments, just let me know. > > Anne Black > IMCA #2356 > www.IMPACTIKA.com > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> > Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck > Monitoring Service trial > http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/1.XolB/TM > -~-> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Pictures
Hello Everybody, My pictures of the Tucson 2002 Show are ready for your viewing pleasure!! Just go to http://photos.yahoo.com/impactika and click on "Tucson 2002" I only wish Yahoo will leave enough room to list the names of all the people, but that would require a lot of room. :-) Next: Inventory of all the nice pieces I brought back (almost done!) Any questions or comments, just let me know. Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Mongolia -Gobi Desert
Don't get your hopes up. Mongolia doesn't allow exporting of any rocks or natural materials. When we visited there they even confiscated a small bag of Gobi Desert dune sand that my wife had collected. Perhaps they would make exceptions with the proper permits, etc., but from what I have heard, they are still very strict. Sometimes they allow museums to remove materials for study, but they are still considered the property of the Mongolian people, and it must eventually be returned. I don't know if they have a formal meteorite policy, however. Maybe they would see the export of meteorites as a revenue source. I suspect China would be a better bet than Mongolia. --Paul - Original Message - From: "Rick Nowak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mongolia -Gobi Desert > One of the great deserts and semidesert regions of > the world, the Gobi stretches across Central Asia over > large areas of Mongolia and China. It occupies an arc > of land 1,000 mi (1,609 km) long and 300-600 mi > (500-1,000 km) wide, with an estimated area of 500,000 > sq mi (1,300,000 sq km). Since NWA and Oman are being > hit hard for meteorites I contacted the US Embassy in > Mongolia who will pursue their avenues to see if > meteorites can be bought and exported from Mongolia. > Let's see what turns up... > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] About Time + Tucson 2002
I was the 3rd son born 3 minutes to three in the morning in the 3rd month) March the sixth..darn it. Guess I have to stop there. Mark Bostick "The Big Collector" - Original Message - From: Dave Schultz Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 5:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] About Time + Tucson 2002 I had a niece that was 9 on 09/09/99. Sorry, a little off topic. Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] About Time + Tucson 2002 In a message dated 2/17/2002 9:35:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As the clock ticks over from 8:01PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2002, time will (for sixty seconds only) read in perfect symmetry. To be more precise: 20:02, 02/20, 2002. It is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch (or the 24-hour clock) at 10:01AM, on January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again.That is so cool but so was my recent birthday 02/02/02 Something that I will never see again Bob
[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite????
This was found in Wyandot County Ohio in May of 2001 and was sent to me by a John Ward. The stone in question has NO magnet attraction. Due to its oriented shape color and texture of other meteorites I have seen I did not want to declare this not a meteorite when in fact it could well be. Each side of this stone is very smooth including the front that has a nipple then a ring around the base of the nipple.Their are no sharp cuts etc. The stone is no bigger than a quarter yet weighs more than it should for its size. He found the stone buried with ¾ of its mass in the ground and just the end sticking out. The problem is if I break this thing up I would destroy its unique beauty. Since their would be no metal inside a nickel test would be inclusive. If anyone has any idea what this could be or where it can be sent for testing let me know.Image avaible at http://206.25.226.2/~nickt/rmeteorpicture.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson pictures are up 18 pictures in all
Hello Everyone, I just put up 18 pictures that I had taken in Tucson, it may take some time to load but its worth the wait. http://www.meteorman.org/Tucson_2002.htm Best Regards, Tim Heitz Midwest Meteorites - http://www.meteorman.org/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Basalt Meteorites
Are their any basalt metorites out their? Are their any Leucite Basalt meteorites??? Tholeiite Basalt Meteorites??? Potassium rich basalts??? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mongolia -Gobi Desert
It is probably a lot easier to get into the Chinese Gobi (it has a lower elevation and you will find a little bit of English -- more than you'll find in Mongolia). You can take a train from Beijing to Baotou and travel by many conveyences into the nearby dune areas. There are a number of quasi off limit areas such as the semi autonomous area of Ningxia but the areas in No. Central China are worth exploring. I've been there twice and to my knowledge it is untouced land. Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 18 February 2002, Rick Nowak wrote > > > > > One of the great deserts and semidesert regions of > > the world, the Gobi stretches across Central Asia over > > large areas of Mongolia and China. It occupies an arc > > of land 1,000 mi (1,609 km) long and 300-600 mi > > (500-1,000 km) wide, with an estimated area of 500,000 > > sq mi (1,300,000 sq km). Since NWA and Oman are being > > hit hard for meteorites I contacted the US Embassy in > > Mongolia who will pursue their avenues to see if > > meteorites can be bought and exported from Mongolia. > > Let's see what turns up... > > > > > > The biggest problem here is extreme remoteness, and in > many places (the best places) high altitude. > > I have thought of it quite often-- but it would be > tough. > > Steve Schoner, AMS > > ___ > Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mongolia -Gobi Desert
On Mon, 18 February 2002, Rick Nowak wrote > > One of the great deserts and semidesert regions of > the world, the Gobi stretches across Central Asia over > large areas of Mongolia and China. It occupies an arc > of land 1,000 mi (1,609 km) long and 300-600 mi > (500-1,000 km) wide, with an estimated area of 500,000 > sq mi (1,300,000 sq km). Since NWA and Oman are being > hit hard for meteorites I contacted the US Embassy in > Mongolia who will pursue their avenues to see if > meteorites can be bought and exported from Mongolia. > Let's see what turns up... > > The biggest problem here is extreme remoteness, and in many places (the best places) high altitude. I have thought of it quite often-- but it would be tough. Steve Schoner, AMS ___ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun
Here is some info on the Revelstoke meteorite in BC, Canada: http://tabla.geo.ucalgary.ca/cdnmeteorites/meteorite/revelstoke.html I have heard of a few meteorites being found on snow in Canada, for example: Bruderheim and Innisfree (MORP network recovery). Apperently, many meteorites fall through the snow, bounce off the ground and come to rest back on the surface of the snow but in the case of dust I imagine it would just sprinkle onto the surface. This gives Canada some advantage because as they say here there are 4 seasons: Winter, almost winter, just past winter and the rainy season. :) Graham Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun >Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:04:20 -0800 (PST) > >There is another very strange carbonaceous meteorite >that fell at "Revelstoke" (sp) Canada in the winter of >1965 (?). > >As I recall, after a very bright and large fireball a >team was sent to explore after the scene, covered with >snow was checked via aircraft. Snow drifts were >covered with what appeared from the air to be black >dust. > >Field investigations, as I recall, recovered about 1 >gram of carbonaceous meteorite dust (C1 ?). > >So, it would seem that there are other instances of >this type of material falling to earth. > >In this case had the fall not happened when the land >was covered in snow nothing would have been recovered. > >And I imagine that for Tagish Lake the result would not >have been nearly as good had it happened say in the >summer time. > >Regards, >Steve Schoner AMS > > > > >On Thu, 14 February 2002, Eric Twelker wrote > > > > > Hello all > > > > Just a reminder that we still have small pieces >(<70 mg) of Tagish Lake > > available. > > > > Regards, > > > > Eric Twelker > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.meteoritemarket.com > > > > > From: Bernd Pauli HD ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:25:02 +0100 > > > To: meteorite-list ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun > > > > > > ZOLENSKY M. et al. (2001) Kaidun: A smorgasbord > > > of new asteroid samples (MAPS 36-9, 2001, A233): > > > > > > One of the most intriguing results of research on >Tagish Lake is that > > > it may be a piece from a type D asteroid this >type of asteroid is > > > supposed to be extremely rich in carbon. How does >that finding relate > > > to Kaidun? Kaidun is a clastic carbonaceous >chondrite and the following > > > components are present: > > > > > > - every type of carbonaceous chondrite > > > - enstatite chondrites > > > - shock melt clasts > > > - many numerous hitherto unseen materials - plus: >... > > > - a carbonaceous lithology with the same oxygen >isotope > > > composition as Tagish Lake > > > > > > So there was Tagish Lake-like material in our >collections > > > 20 years before Tagish Lake fell! > > > > > > In order to have accumulated clasts of many >unrelated asteroids, the > > > Kaidun parent body must have been large and the >authors speculate > > > that Kaidun may have come from ... Ceres. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bernd > > > > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >___ >Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. > >__ >Meteorite-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites blessing or omen ?
On Tue, 12 February 2002, "Graham Christensen" wrote > > This is true. I myself have many tiny chips and pieces of meteorite but I > have an NWA that I got from Dean Bessey that is 285 grams. I am glad that I > had the opportunity to obtain a meteorite of its size. It has given me a > better idea of what a meteorite would probably look like in an environment > where it might be weathered and I have been able to show it to many people > in my school, many of whom have shown great interest. Besides, I don't think > that the information about the strewnfields is all that important to > science, the physics of meteorite falls and the formation of strewnfields is > already well known. What needs to be studied is the meteorites themselves > and the best way to do this is to have nomads out there searching to make a > profit, finding the maximum amount of material. Am I right on this? This is > just my opinion. > > My 2 bits (of NWA meteorite) worth :) > Graham, I think that you are absolutely right on this on all counts. Strewn field information, I think is important with regards to very large falls, such a Gibeon, Campo del Cielo, and other such events. Most important though are witnessed falls. Strewnfield data with regards to these is important. The visual observation of the fireball event coupled with the data derived from the fall scatter pattern can provide insight into the process of retardation of hypersonic bodies with irreguar shapes and motions in our atmosphere. (In this regard, some bolides, such as Pasamonte were observed to have a "corkscrew" motion). But with regards to the tons of NWA's I think it stupid and shortsighted to discount these as being "scientifically important" simply because they do not have strewnfield data. These should, instead, be considered potential bonaza to science. Cut them, make spheres of them, reduce them to dust, pop out chondurles for analysis-- the huge supply should make for some amazing discoveries. Steve Schoner, American Meteorite Survey. > Graham Christensen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter > > >From: "Simon de Boer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites blessing or omen ? > >Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:54:01 -0500 > > > > Edward and List :I am a junior and amateur collector. I've > >been interested in meteorites for as long as I can remember searching > > fields , rock piles wondering how I might wish astar to fall on > > my property. Having finally accumulated numerous specimens I sent > >pieces to Robt Haag who called me on the phone with the > >discouraging news that none of what I had a ton of beside my gas > >barrel was meteorite. > > At that point I did as Robt said and got Richard Nortons book > > and educated myself somewhat. I met a few helpful dealers , > >collectors, and got to look at the real thing. It was like a > >starved soul to be able to purchase pieces of meteorite at such > >reasonable prices and study them for myself. No it wasn t the > >dollars for me that I could make on them , I was just glad to > >buy them for what I could get them If I had to pay what some > >have paid to have a few grams of rare individuals I wouldn t have > >any today .I have shared pieces with many people who would > >otherwise been like me ignorant about what a meteorite looks and > >feels like. I can now bring and even give some to farmers and > >friends who otherwise would never even see the real thing much less > >care, but they marvel when they get to touch what we now take for > >granted. > > I spend hours looking over and over at all the variety of > >specimens I have from NWA and anyone who is interested can > >actually come and enjoy them also. I ve been asked if I can show > >what I have at the local fall fair I think its an excellent idea to > >bring them into schools and let childrens hold a star first hand and > >not look at it in a museum for 5 seconds and never experience > >them. the beauty of nature ought not be locked up and hoarded by > >those who can afford high priced ones alone ..There is lots to > >go around I m so thankful the price was in range where I didn t > >hesitate to get some rather than just keep looking and hoping > >someday to find one . Blessing UNWA for me perhaps someday I > >ll get some pieces classified and donate my 20 grams to the > >cause also without regret. > > I agree that perhaps alot more pairing could have been done > >I t could have been picked up more scientifically bu
[meteorite-list] Mongolia -Gobi Desert
One of the great deserts and semidesert regions of the world, the Gobi stretches across Central Asia over large areas of Mongolia and China. It occupies an arc of land 1,000 mi (1,609 km) long and 300-600 mi (500-1,000 km) wide, with an estimated area of 500,000 sq mi (1,300,000 sq km). Since NWA and Oman are being hit hard for meteorites I contacted the US Embassy in Mongolia who will pursue their avenues to see if meteorites can be bought and exported from Mongolia. Let's see what turns up... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun
There is another very strange carbonaceous meteorite that fell at "Revelstoke" (sp) Canada in the winter of 1965 (?). As I recall, after a very bright and large fireball a team was sent to explore after the scene, covered with snow was checked via aircraft. Snow drifts were covered with what appeared from the air to be black dust. Field investigations, as I recall, recovered about 1 gram of carbonaceous meteorite dust (C1 ?). So, it would seem that there are other instances of this type of material falling to earth. In this case had the fall not happened when the land was covered in snow nothing would have been recovered. And I imagine that for Tagish Lake the result would not have been nearly as good had it happened say in the summer time. Regards, Steve Schoner AMS On Thu, 14 February 2002, Eric Twelker wrote > > Hello all > > Just a reminder that we still have small pieces (<70 mg) of Tagish Lake > available. > > Regards, > > Eric Twelker > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.meteoritemarket.com > > > From: Bernd Pauli HD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:25:02 +0100 > > To: meteorite-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Tagish Lake and Kaidun > > > > ZOLENSKY M. et al. (2001) Kaidun: A smorgasbord > > of new asteroid samples (MAPS 36-9, 2001, A233): > > > > One of the most intriguing results of research on Tagish Lake is that > > it may be a piece from a type D asteroid this type of asteroid is > > supposed to be extremely rich in carbon. How does that finding relate > > to Kaidun? Kaidun is a clastic carbonaceous chondrite and the following > > components are present: > > > > - every type of carbonaceous chondrite > > - enstatite chondrites > > - shock melt clasts > > - many numerous hitherto unseen materials - plus: ... > > - a carbonaceous lithology with the same oxygen isotope > > composition as Tagish Lake > > > > So there was Tagish Lake-like material in our collections > > 20 years before Tagish Lake fell! > > > > In order to have accumulated clasts of many unrelated asteroids, the > > Kaidun parent body must have been large and the authors speculate > > that Kaidun may have come from ... Ceres. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bernd > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanks
Thanks everyone for helping me locate Marvin Kilgores website Thanks again, Rex
[meteorite-list] Richfield LL3.7 full slice meteorite
Hi dear listers! Here is a few images of full slice of Richfield LL 3.7 meteorite : http://photos.yahoo.com/finmet2000 Size: 10.5 x 14.0 x 1/4 " or 265 x 350 x 6 mm Weight : 1,389 gram If somebody has interest for buy it, please make a reasonable offer. Thanks, Ivan
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] About Time + Tucson 2002
I had a niece that was 9 on 09/09/99. Sorry, a little off topic. Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] About Time + Tucson 2002 In a message dated 2/17/2002 9:35:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As the clock ticks over from 8:01PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2002, time will (for sixty seconds only) read in perfect symmetry. To be more precise: 20:02, 02/20, 2002. It is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch (or the 24-hour clock) at 10:01AM, on January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again.That is so cool but so was my recent birthday 02/02/02 Something that I will never see again Bob
Re: [meteorite-list] Carbonaceous Chondrite Statistics
Greetings Listees and Bernd! Being that my meteorite collection has started to focus on basically collecting as many different Carbonaceous Chondrites as possible, this is really interesting to me. It shows me that I have a long way to go before I can reach my goal! :) At present I have roughly 30 different C/C`s in my collection, after adding 3 that I purchased and won at Darryl`s Auction last Sunday in Tucson! I got a beautiful 79.41g. piece of Kainsaz, a nice 3g. piece of Ningqiang at the auction, and a cool looking 9.5g. half slice of NWA 723 CV3.5 from Bruno and Carine! I`m still seaching for a reference type book on C/C`s though, but with no luck. :( Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!Dave - Original Message - From: Bernd Pauli HD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: meteorite-list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Carbonaceous Chondrite Statistics > Hi All! > > After I had written that carbonaceous chondrites were relatively rare in > our collections when compared to ordinary chondrites, someone asked > for numbers off-list. So I'd like to share the result with all of us: > > > Carbonaceous chondrites presently in my databases: > > (Tentative) pairing not considered! > > 190 worldwide without Antarctica (45 falls/144 finds + 1 Bench Crater) > 329 US Antarctica > 123 Japanese Antarctica (there are probably several more meanwhile!) > > => 642 Carbonaceous chondrites > > All meteorites: > > 05938 Meteorites worldwide without Antarctica > 08514 Japanese Antarctica > 10532 US Antarctica > > => 24984 meteorites= 100 % > => 642 Carbonaceous = 2.5 % > > Best regards, > > Bernd > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OT] About Time + Tucson 2002
In a message dated 2/17/2002 9:35:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As the clock ticks over from 8:01PM on Wednesday, February 20th, 2002, time will (for sixty seconds only) read in perfect symmetry. To be more precise: 20:02, 02/20, 2002. It is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch (or the 24-hour clock) at 10:01AM, on January 10, 1001. And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that will never happen again. That is so cool but so was my recent birthday 02/02/02 Something that I will never see again Bob
[meteorite-list] Carbonaceous Chondrite Statistics
Hi All! After I had written that carbonaceous chondrites were relatively rare in our collections when compared to ordinary chondrites, someone asked for numbers off-list. So I'd like to share the result with all of us: Carbonaceous chondrites presently in my databases: (Tentative) pairing not considered! 190 worldwide without Antarctica (45 falls/144 finds + 1 Bench Crater) 329 US Antarctica 123 Japanese Antarctica (there are probably several more meanwhile!) => 642 Carbonaceous chondrites All meteorites: 05938 Meteorites worldwide without Antarctica 08514 Japanese Antarctica 10532 US Antarctica => 24984 meteorites= 100 % => 642 Carbonaceous = 2.5 % Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Hot Desert Meteorites
Greetings to the List, I just purchased a NWA from one of the Moroccan dealers here in Tucson on Sat. I was only interested in having a representative sample of a NWA. I'm going to have it cut open so I can view the insides. Hey, at 30 cents a gram, how can anyone really go wrong. My 2 cents, Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Marvin Killgore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anybody have an email address or website for Marvin Killgore? E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.meteorite-lab.com/ In this regard, check out Paul and Jim's excellent Meteorite Exchange dealer-page! http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm
[meteorite-list] Bag checks...Tucson, my first
I enjoyed your airport account! I was really scrutinized too, as I figured I would be. They made me unwrap lots of things including a fossil belemnite about 4 inches long to which the checker said "That looks very pointy" with a raised eyebrow. After deciding I wouldn't take over the plane with an ancient sea creature, he asked me to unwrap a cluster of vanadanite crystals which I had wrapped in about a half a roll of toilet paper. So there I am sitting in this giant heap of toilet paper holding my tiny red crystals getting very odd looks from passers-by. The only other thing they checked was a bubble wrapped agate slice. The semi-surly looking army guy who had been standing silently nearby with arms folded piped up "That would look really pretty hanging in a window!" After that, they let me go, and the thing I worried about (my bag of meteorites) went unchecked. Those poor guys probably had their work cut out for them that week! Glad they're checking though! Jeannie - Original Message - From: "Walter Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Tucson, my first > This was my first Tucson show (for that matter, my first meteorite show), > and it was great. I could only get away for last weekend, but I caught > the highlights: the Birthday Bash and the Macovitch auction. It was > great meeting the very friendly people that I have communicated with by > Email and read on the List. At the Birthday party, I was new, had never > met almost everybody, so I was put at the Table of Honor with the > Birthday Boys, Bruno and Carine, Anne Black, and others. Everybody made > a point to talk to me, make me feel welcome, and introduce me to > everybody. Geoff was particularly solicitous. Thanks. > > I picked up some great Mars rocks, a slice of Gibeon, even a Triassic > fossil. I got to use my trés mal French with a mineral dealer from > Morocco from whom I got a few quartz spheres for my wife. My airport > experience was amusing. I had no check-on bags, just a backpack and a > small carry-on bag. As was the case for almost everybody, when my two > bags went through the X-ray machine, they shouted "bag check". I knew > this was coming. The quartz spheres were in my backpack and the large, > thin Gibeon (sort of like a small guillotine or ax blade) was in the > small carry-on with the Mars rocks and fossil. I was led over to the > side where I joined the crowd. I asked the very serious "agent" to be > careful with my carry-on as he picked it up. This made him even more > serious and he asked me, "What's in it?" He looked worried expecting a > Stinger missile launcher or small nuclear device, but I said, "There are > meteorites inside, very fragile, very valuable". I swear that he had not > the slightest idea what I was talking about. I could have been speaking > Arabic. Anyway, he put my two bags next to me on a chair, and began to > checkr over every part of my body and clothes with a metal detector. > Don't you have to have a medical license to perform sigmoidoscopy? He > was very unhappy with me as I had a few coins in the pocket of my pants. > I had to take my running shoes off. They were run through the explosive > sniffing machine and through the metal detector. A second man came over, > the "bag man"; he picked up my backpack and took me and it over to a > counter. I grabbed the small carry-on with the real goodies and took it > with me. He asked me to take off my shoes, again. I said that I had just > done this 3 minutes and 10 feet ago, but if he really wanted them, I > would oblige, particularly in view of the soldiers with rifles standing > right next to us, but the other serious guy came over and said that my > shoes had been checked out. Middle age is wanting to tie one's shoe > laces as little as possible. Okay, so now he is going through my > backpack handling it like it was packed with scorpions. Immediately, he > sees things big hard things wrapped in newspaper. As he intently and > carefully unwraps the quartz spheres, he does not look at the newspaper. > It is all in Arabic! The merchant from Morocco used it to wrap them. > Lucky me. He might have asked what it said. I'm afraid I would have been > tempted to be witty, and, no doubt, would have spent the night in jail, > but he never noticed. So now he has a guy with a bunch of big hard heavy > spheres filled with who knows what wrapped in Arabic newspaper. So he > says, "OK, you can go". I wrap everything up, grab my small bag (the one > with the guillotine-like piece of iron) and head for the gate. They > never checked it! Amazing. Boy, did I feel safe getting on that > airplane. Next year, I will take more time off, and definitely DRIVE. > > All in all, I had a great time. I have never been so warmly received by > strangers. I have been involved with Astronomy for many years, and > amateur astronomers are similar. Very passionate about their avocation,
[meteorite-list] Rose Center Meteorites
Hi All! Nice to meet so many of you in Tucson! I was wondering about the large meteorites in the Rose Center for Planetary Sciences (formerly the Hayden Planetarium) in NYC. I know that the Willamette and Cape York are there, but I seem to remember there being at least one other really big one. Anyone know? Thanks in advance, Jeannie
[meteorite-list] Help with possible meteorite
Hello. I think I may have found a meteorite. Or I could have found locomotive clinker. It looks like a meteorite and acts like a meteorite (magnetic). However, it could be a meteorwrong. I looked at some possible meteorwrongs and only one seems to fit my rock: locomotive clinker. If you don't know what it is, it si a chuck of melted iron spewd out of an old locomotive train. I am considering cutting it to find out what it really is. Does locomotive clinker, or any other meteorwrong look like a meteor when you cut it or do you need chemical tests to find out? If it really is a meteorite, I won't sell it, but if it isn't then I'll just be proud of my clinker. Heads up, Derek __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteor 2/9/02 Seismic Reports
IMS has been granted the right to do press release thru the AP. We are going to use them in tracking down the Meteor of 2/9/02. Reports are coming in from the New England Seismic Network. So far only one station has reported with no jumps on the seismic record.In the future if anymore meteors show up we will use the media to obtain flight reports. Plot the end point and conatct the nearest newspaers to encourage people to come forward with meteorites. This is so low cost yet a method that Nininger was not able to use. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Ebay Auctions TODAY & TOMORROW
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Ebay Auctions TODAY & TOMORROW Hello, Please check out my ebay auctions that are ending today (Monday) and tomorrow... Go to: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Thanks & Best Wishes Michael Cottingham
[meteorite-list] AP Wire Service
IMS has been granted the right to do press release thru the AP. We are going to use them in tracking down the Meteor of 2/9/02. Reports are coming in from the New England Seismic Network. So far only one station has reported with no jumps on the seismic record.In the future if anymore meteors show up we will use the media to obtain flight reports. Plot the end point and conatct the nearest newspaers to encourage people to come forward with meteorites. This is so low cost yet a method that Nininger was not able to use. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] magnetic or non magnetic?
Pierre, In an earlier e-mail I told you that the rare-earth magnets that I have "stick" to my specimens of Allende. I wasn't speaking of crumbs, I was talking about entire specimens, end pieces, slices. I also have a "magnet on a string" that will stick and hold until the meteorite is lifted to 45 degrees to perpendicular. Steve --- rochette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Which meteorites would NOT be attracted to a magnet. > >> Lunar and Mars meteorites to my knowledge anymore out their?? > >> > > > >I don't know of any. Lunar and Mars meteorites are in fact > attracted > >to a strong magnet. Even the carbonaceous chondrites are > attracted > >to strong magnets. > > > >Ron Baalke > > > Dear list members > > we are discussing on a threshold; the answer is not yes or no, but > more or > less. Even air (due to the paramagnetism of oxygen) can be > attracted with > the proper magnet! I have hand permanent magnets that are able to > lift a > paramagnetic siilicate like olivine from the table. > > For meteorites with less than 1% of metal (like Allende, > Howardite,LL, > lunar...) if you have a strong magnet, and you take crumbles of the > material on a sheet of paper, you are right Matteo, Ron and Steve, > touching > them with a magnet can move the crumbles, may be lift some of them. > However > the magnet does not stick to the bulk rock, like for L or H. > On the other hand metal is heterogeneously distributed, so some > fragments > of the same howardite or LL can have several percent of metal so > behave > like a L. But again the bulk does not! > > Saying that the above experiment shows that these low metal > meteorites are > magnetic, results in saying that a lot of terrestrial rocks have > the same > behavior, thus rending the magnet proof pointless (again check with > a > basalt or a Yosemite granite: it behaves like Allende). > > Thanks Steve Shoner for your support! > > Pierre > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Meteorites
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Meteorites Hi Walter, Good work. But since you asked, here are a couple of suggestions/opinions: It appears that your camera’s depth of field was not deep enough to retain the entire image thickness in focus. Notice the slight fuzziness on the left side of the specimen. Were you using any telephoto aspects of your camera. The more you zoom, the thinner the plane of focus. The background is nice, but the harsh shadow parallel to the specimen’s right edge is somewhat distracting. When there are near misses with lines and intersections, the mind wonders if something else is going on. An old saying is that the picture includes the frame. The lighting is still a little harsh, especially on the steely edges of the thumbprints. Maybe soften the photofloods through bounce and turn off the on-camera flash. Personally, I think the specimen looks a little better if you rotate it 135 degrees clockwise. Just my opinion. Finally, the pink background does add highlight to some of the internal regions of the thumbprints, but I think it actually accentuates the harsh nature of the iron rather than softening it. But maybe that is your desired effect? Do you spend this amount of time taking pictures of your daughter? I go through a couple of rolls and a few hundred digital shots a week on my family, but I’m lucky to get a single scan or shot of a meteorite per week. Nice job. Will we get to see more? Cheers, Martin On 2/17/02 7:39 PM, "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Everyone, I have started taking an interest in attempting "nice" photos of the meteorites in my collection and I was doing some experimenting yesterday with a 600+ gram sikhote-alin. Here is what I think is the best image: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/DSCF00111.JPG Some on the list have done some amazing photography and I was wondering if some of you photo experts would take a look and give me some advice on lighting, background, positioning, etc. For this image, I used the flash on the digitial camera and two high intensity photofloods on either side of the specimen. Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. -Walter --- Walter Branch, Ph.D. Branch Meteorites 322 Stephenson Ave., Suite B Savannah, GA 31405 USA www.branchmeteorites.com
[meteorite-list] Marvin Killgore
Hello People, Does anybody have an email address or website for Marvin Killgore? Thanks, Rex
Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Meteorites
Title: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of Meteorites Walter, Excellent photo as far as I'm concerned. Nicely lit. Positioning is a personal thing so use the angle you think would be best. I see nothing wrong with that image personally. Nice job. Regards, Tom Randall Hello Everyone, I have started taking an interest in attempting "nice" photos of the meteorites in my collection and I was doing some experimenting yesterday with a 600+ gram sikhote-alin. Here is what I think is the best image: http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/DSCF00111.JPG Some on the list have done some amazing photography and I was wondering if some of you photo experts would take a look and give me some advice on lighting, background, positioning, etc. For this image, I used the flash on the digitial camera and two high intensity photofloods on either side of the specimen. Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. -Walter --
[meteorite-list] magnetic or non magnetic?
>> >> Which meteorites would NOT be attracted to a magnet. >> Lunar and Mars meteorites to my knowledge anymore out their?? >> > >I don't know of any. Lunar and Mars meteorites are in fact attracted >to a strong magnet. Even the carbonaceous chondrites are attracted >to strong magnets. > >Ron Baalke > Dear list members we are discussing on a threshold; the answer is not yes or no, but more or less. Even air (due to the paramagnetism of oxygen) can be attracted with the proper magnet! I have hand permanent magnets that are able to lift a paramagnetic siilicate like olivine from the table. For meteorites with less than 1% of metal (like Allende, Howardite,LL, lunar...) if you have a strong magnet, and you take crumbles of the material on a sheet of paper, you are right Matteo, Ron and Steve, touching them with a magnet can move the crumbles, may be lift some of them. However the magnet does not stick to the bulk rock, like for L or H. On the other hand metal is heterogeneously distributed, so some fragments of the same howardite or LL can have several percent of metal so behave like a L. But again the bulk does not! Saying that the above experiment shows that these low metal meteorites are magnetic, results in saying that a lot of terrestrial rocks have the same behavior, thus rending the magnet proof pointless (again check with a basalt or a Yosemite granite: it behaves like Allende). Thanks Steve Shoner for your support! Pierre __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list