Re: [meteorite-list] More on the July 4, Ukranian event

2002-07-12 Thread Rosemary Hackney

So a ufo is involved and they don't want to admit it?? lol

Rosie
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 Just passing along the latest update:
 
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 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 21:15:44 +0400
 From: Andrei Ol'khovatov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: (meteorobs) More on the July 4, Ukranean
 event
 
 Dear All,
 
 Today I was able to make a lot of contacts in Ukraine
 regarding the July 4, 2002 Israel airliner incident
 associated with alleged missile launch or meteorite
 fall, or...?
 Here is the summary:
 1) No meteorites were discovered.
 2) Currently authorities seems to be satisfied that
 it was not a missile,
 and are not interested to investigate further.
 2) A  witness in a village Khoroshee (alleged place of
 the fall) who saw the luminous event describes it and
 accompanying phenomenon so intriguing, that currently
 I prefer to abstain going into details, before more
 investigation will be done.
 Several Ukranean science-associated officials,
 mass-media  and me decided to try conduct further
 investigation of the event, until we could understand
 what it was.
 
 Best wishes,
 Andrei Ol'khovatov
 
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[meteorite-list] Pultusks and Bereba available

2002-07-12 Thread MeteorHntr
Hello list,

I have a couple small Pultusks for sale with Museum National d'Histoire Naturelle (Paris) I.D. cards.

I also have a few grams of Bereba Eucrite fragments available.

If anyone is interested in more information on these please contact me off list.

Thanks,
Steve Arnold
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[meteorite-list] What an evening

2002-07-12 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!

What an evening with Mr. Rob Elliott from feranlea Meteorites. For 5 hours
last night we drank lots of beer,sold, traded and bought meteorites. This
man is so smart when it comes to meteorites. He blow me away with his vast
expertice. Also Steve Witt from Indiana came up to be with us. It was so
nice to meet this fine gentleman. We just sat and talked everything
meteoritcal for 5 hours before last call and we were the last ones there.
My wife even called looking for me. It was after midnight, so we could
have gone all night with meteorites. just talking the night away and
drinking lots of beer. Man can Rob put them down. Rob is one classy guy.
Ijust want to thank him for coming to our great  city and I hope he truly
enjoys himself. Thanks again rob for a fun evening. Also thanks for the
great deals.

steve

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Re: [meteorite-list] What an evening

2002-07-12 Thread Jim Strope

Sounds like you guys had a great time Steve   Now, you need to try to
schedule a trip to either the Denver show in September or the Tucson show in
February.  There are lots of good parties at these shows.

Jim Strope
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Glen Dale, WV  26038

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 What an evening with Mr. Rob Elliott from feranlea Meteorites. For 5 hours
 last night we drank lots of beer,sold, traded and bought meteorites. This
 man is so smart when it comes to meteorites. He blow me away with his vast
 expertice. Also Steve Witt from Indiana came up to be with us. It was so
 nice to meet this fine gentleman. We just sat and talked everything
 meteoritcal for 5 hours before last call and we were the last ones there.
 My wife even called looking for me. It was after midnight, so we could
 have gone all night with meteorites. just talking the night away and
 drinking lots of beer. Man can Rob put them down. Rob is one classy guy.
 Ijust want to thank him for coming to our great  city and I hope he truly
 enjoys himself. Thanks again rob for a fun evening. Also thanks for the
 great deals.

 steve

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[meteorite-list] Astrophysicists Discover Possible Nanodiamond Formation In The Early Solar System

2002-07-12 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.llnl.gov/llnl/06news/NewsReleases/2002/NR-02-07-04.html

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

Contact: Anne Stark
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: July 11, 2002

NR-02-07-04

Astrophysicists Discover Possible Nanodiamond Formation In the
Early Solar System

LIVERMORE, Calif. -- An astrophysicist from Lawrence Livermore
National Laboratory's Institute for Geophysics and Planetary
Physics has found that some nanodiamonds, the most famous and
exotic form of stardust, may instead have formed within the inner
solar system.

The findings argue with the wide held belief that nanodiamonds
recovered from meteorites from the asteroid belt have been the
most abundant type of presolar stardust grain. 

IGPP Director John Bradley, in conjunction with scientists from
the Georgia Institute of Technology, the University of Washington,
NASA Goddard Space Flight Center and the Natural History Museum
in London, report their discovery in today's edition of Nature.

We presumed that if we studied (micro) meteorites (also known
as interplanetary dust particles) from comets further out in our
solar system, we would find more nanodiamonds, Bradley said.
But we're just not seeing them. One theory is that some,
perhaps most, nanodiamonds formed within the inner solar system
and are not presolar at all.

Interplanetary dust particles are collected in the stratosphere
using NASA ER2 aircraft and they are made up of irregularly
shaped grains of carbon and/or silicates. 

One origin of stardust is from supernovae, the cataclysmic
deaths of a star. For more than 30 years, astrophysicists have
looked to stardust, a sort of remnant of stars, to tell the
story of our solar system's origins.

But Bradley and the group of researchers report that at least
some of the oldest cometary interplanetary dust particles
contain little or no nanodiamond stardust at all.

This raises all sorts of questions about the origins of our
solar system, Bradley said. Our findings are consistent with
recent research that has detected nanodiamonds within the
accretion discs of other young stars that are similar to our
early solar system.

The group concludes that an alternative explanation for the lack
of nanondiamonds in the early meteorites is that all meteoritic
nanodiamonds are presolar, but that their abundance decreases
the further they are from the sun. In that case, our
understanding of large-scale transport and circulation within
the early solar system is incomplete.

Founded in 1952, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is a
national security laboratory, with a mission to ensure national
security and apply science and technology to the important
issues of our time. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is
managed by the University of California for the U.S. Department
of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration.


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[meteorite-list] Items of interest ending, and starting, on eBay

2002-07-12 Thread Rob Wesel



Hello all-
For your perusal is my most aesthetic set of 
Sudbury Impact material. The largest and the best of many hard to find oddities 
in one collection. Detailed descriptions of each piece are there along with 
individual photos. If you've been toying with the idea of putting together a 
little something Sudbury, you owe yourself a look. Again my last garnet for a 
while and a huge impact melt slice to be had. 6 days to go!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2121440086


Secondly, This is the final auction for the Third 
Millennium Meteorite Calendar where I will be offering free shipping. You have 
one more day to bid, as many as you want, free shipping. After that I will 
continue to run these on eBay well into 2003 at the standard price and shipping. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2119977516

Thanks for looking and good luck,

--Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and 
we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 
1971


[meteorite-list] Paypal and Ebay

2002-07-12 Thread Jim Strope



Here is a letter posted to the paypal website



  
  
Letter from the PayPal Team
  


  
  

  

  


  
  
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  achieve this goal. Still the Same 
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  the PayPal brand and website will remain distinct from eBay's, and PayPal 
  will be run as an independent unit by the same team that's working here 
  today. PayPal will also continue to offer a wide variety of non-auction 
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  directly from a website. And eBay has said that at this time they do not 
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  PayPal does mean that we'll be able to pursue some exciting improvements. 
  Once the acquisition is completed, PayPal will be fully integrated into 
  eBay's website, making it even easier for you to use PayPal to collect 
  payments for your eBay auctions. And PayPal's commitment to 
  rapidly developing new, innovative features isn't going to change. 
  In the months to come you'll see many major new features from us, 
  including: 
  
Transactions in Multiple Currencies
Enhancements to our Shipping service
Additional tools for collecting auction payments We believe 
  that our acquisition by eBay will enable us to focus on building the best 
  payment tools for you. Thanks to our 
  Members We're excited that PayPal is joining the eBay 
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - July 8-12, 2002

2002-07-12 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
July 8-12, 2002

o Deuteronilus Mensae (Released 8 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020708a.html

o Terby Crater (Released 9 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020709a.html

o Terra Tyrrhena/Millochau Crater (Released 10 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020710a.html

o Amenthes Crater (Released 11 July 2002)
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020711a.html

o Huo Hsing Vallis (Released 12 July 2002
  http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20020712a.html

All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Question

2002-07-12 Thread Bernd Pauli HD

Rhett Bourland wrote:

 On the lower end of the H chondrite values there is a very
 small bar on 15%. I was wondering if you could possibly tell
 me how many meteorites are represented by that bar and if
 there aren't too many which ones are they?


Hello Rhett and Fayalists :-)

In the lower left corner of that graph you find my name and the 
date when this graph was generated: October 23, 1994 so I think
that the 4th edition of the Meteorite Catalogue, the Big Blue
Book, was the basis for this graph.

Presently there are six H chondrites with fayalite values ranging
from 15 to 16 % fayalite. These include the following:

NameClass   Fell/Find   YearFa

XinyiH5  Find   1975   15
WillaroyH3  Find  197015
Grady (1937)H3.6Find  193715
Burnwell   HFell   199015,8
DaG 385  H3-4Find  199715,9
Clipperton  H3 Find  198615,9

The 1994 graph shows Xinyi, Willaroy, and Grady (1937).

 Dr. McCoy at the Smithsonian was talking about that meteorite
 having a Fa content of 15.8 +/- .2% and stated that the average
 Fa composition of H chondrites is only between 16.9-20.4%.
 Obviously there will be some meteorites within that class that
 are slightly above or below average so I was wondering about the
 ones that are a bit lower than that and any possible relationships
 they may have to Burnwell.

Well, meanwhile there are actually H chondrites
with even lower Fa values in my databases:

NameClass   Fell/Find   YearFa

C.los CalvosH4  Find198612,5
Suwahib H3.7Find193114,4
DaG 862 H3  Find199914,4

As for the US Antarctic H chondrites, I have the following:

NAMEDESIG   FA

FRO 95038   H4  14.7
FRO 95014   H4  14.8
ALH 77221   H4  15
EET 87553   H4  15
EET 87808   H4  15
ALH 84105   H6  15
EET 96037   H4  15
EET 96047   H4  15
GRV 99025   H5  15.6

This overview does not include ones with variable Fa values or
ranges, especially the unequilibrated specimens. Some examples
so that you know what I am talking about:

NAMEDESIG   FA

GRA 98087   H3.801-19
LEW 88500   H3.701-20
WSG 95300   H3.301-21
LEW 88315   H3.501-22

 the average Fa composition of H chondrites
 is only between 16.9-20.4% ...

As for the upper value of 20.4% fayalite, there
are also some exceptions to the rule:

NameClass   Fa

DaG 536 H6  21
Cleo SpringsH4  21
Oakley (stone)  H6  21
Forrest 031 H4  21
Menindee L. 002 H5   21,1
Glenrothes  H5  21,4
Acfer 316   H6  21,4
Dhofar 063  H5  21,4
Oviedo  H5  25

US Antarctica:

FRO 90081   H6  21.4
FRO 90131   H4  21.2


Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] How many Meteorites ?.

2002-07-12 Thread Chuck

  Hello everyone.
1. Since the beginning of time,  about how many layers of earth, from the
bottom to the top is there ( Ball Park )?.
2. How many Meteorites ( Ball Park ) would be in each layer ?.
3. Would it be better to look in areas that were ancient sea's, or large
land masses ?.
4. Finally, which type of Meteorite would last the longest, buried for all
this time ? .
Thank you all for your time in reading this,
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[meteorite-list] NWA 002

2002-07-12 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!

Hi list.Is there any NWA 002 out there forsale? Please let me know.

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