Re: [meteorite-list] A meteorite fall in Estonia?

2002-11-27 Thread Tõnu Pani


Hallo all!
As quite often in the newspapers, there is something not correct.
At moment Reet Tiirmaa and lo Kestlane from Tallinn are collecting
the reports of eyewitnesses on Saaremaa and Vilsandi.
There was a fireball over western part of Estonia. It was witnessed
from small island Vilsandi, off the west coast of bigger island Saaremaa
/in the old German literature and maps also as Oesel/.
58.23N, 21.49E
 http://www.atlas.ibs.ee
A very brigt fireball was seen 20. Nov. 2002, 12.30GMT
The fireball was seen during 7-8 sec in clear sky (sunshine)
from SE to NW
The very loud thunder-like noise followed ca 1,5 min later.
***
In addition to this in the newspaper was also, that a meteorite ca
2-3 kg fell into sea and so one of the witnesses lost 300 000 USD
Tnu Pani

This sighting occurred the day after the Norway event:
-- Forward Message 
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:40:17 +0300
From: "Andrei Ol'khovatov" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (meteorobs) A meteorite fall in Estonia?
Dear All,
Russian news agency just reported about an alleged
meteorite fall near the island Saaremaa (a settlement
Vilsandy ) on WEDNESDAY. The light was very bright.
It seems that it was over/into sea.
http://www.presscenter.ru/index.php?subj=0ch=1id=176985>



[meteorite-list] last eBay plug...

2002-11-27 Thread Dave Harris
Hullo,
Just a note to say I have 3 chunks of Chinga on eBay finishing today -
#739282050 for example



In gentle decay,
d.
I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2.
however, it won't fit into my signature file

IMCA #0092

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Re: [meteorite-list] Hadejia

2002-11-27 Thread FERNLEA4
In a message dated 26/11/02 21:29:17 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


If Pierre was a Brit, I'd say his description of Hadejia is a British understatement.


Bernd,
yes, Hadejia is jolly nice.

Hope I haven't enthused too much. I was thinking of putting an exclamation mark after "nice" but that would have been too much for my British reserve to handle ;-)

Cheers,
Rob.
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Identification

2002-11-27 Thread Steven Schoner
For many of us, with regards to the more common types 
meteorite identification is fairly straightforward.

Chondrites most of us could easily identify.  

And many of the achondrites are fairly easy to spot as
well.

But the final word, when questions of authenticity
exist lie with institutions aligned with the
Meteoritical Society; Nomenclature Committee.

Recently much dispute has occurred over alleged lunar
and Martian samples.  These are difficult to identify,
for unless they possess a clearly defined fusion crust
they resemble terrestrial rocks so closely that it
would take a sharp eye to sort them out from ordinary
rocks.  And even should one do so, and have what they
suspect to be a lunar or Martian meteorite, it is not
to be said that such is the case until the
Meteoritical Society, Nomenclature Committee confirms
it.

Provisional or official NWA, DAG, Dhofar, and other
such #'s are not arbitrarily assigned, nor are they to
be assigned by the finder.  Such is the domain of the
Nomenclature Committee.

With new meteorite finds...

It is not officially a meteorite, lunar, planetary, or
asteroidal with a name until the Meteoritical Society
confirms it.

With this in mind all new finds must not only pass the
tests and analysis of a reputable institution(s), but
be accepted by the Meteoritical Society, Nomenclature
Committee.

That is the bottom line.

Steve Schoner
IMCA #4470
http:/www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification
http:/www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey


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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Identification

2002-11-27 Thread Steven Schoner


For many of us, with regards to the more common types 
meteorite identification is fairly straightforward.

Chondrites most of us could easily identify.  

And many of the achondrites are fairly easy to spot as
well.

But the final word, when questions of authenticity
exist lie with institutions aligned with the
Meteoritical Society; Nomenclature Committee.

Recently much dispute has occurred over alleged lunar
and Martian samples.  These are difficult to identify,
for unless they possess a clearly defined fusion crust
they resemble terrestrial rocks so closely that it
would take a sharp eye to sort them out from ordinary
rocks.  And even should one do so, and have what they
suspect to be a lunar or Martian meteorite, it is not
to be said that such is the case until the
Meteoritical Society, Nomenclature Committee confirms
it.

Provisional or official NWA, DAG, Dhofar, and other
such #'s are not arbitrarily assigned, nor are they to
be assigned by the finder.  Such is the domain of the
Nomenclature Committee.

With new meteorite finds...

It is not officially a meteorite, lunar, planetary, or
asteroidal with a name until the Meteoritical Society
confirms it.

With this in mind all new finds must not only pass the
tests and analysis of a reputable institution(s), but
be accepted by the Meteoritical Society, Nomenclature
Committee.

That is the bottom line.

Steve Schoner
IMCA #4470
http://www.geocities.com/meteorite_identification
http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey




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[meteorite-list] WOW, another one cent ebay sale tonight!

2002-11-27 Thread Michael Farmer



Well, I hope everyone in the USA is preparing for a 
nice holiday weekend, but before you go, be sure to see my ebay stuff tonight, 
over 60 items ending ALL started at one cent. 
Many items worth several hundred dollars. Many 
meteorites are still at one cent. Last minute bidding always takes them up but 
many end very close together, so that leaves little time to bid on multiple 
items. 
Also, last night I loaded some VERY LARGE high 
DOLLAR meteorite, also all for one cent, and tomorrow will add more, some pieces 
worth over $2000 will be loaded for one cent, no reserve. 
They will all end on Tuesday. There will be some 
interesting battles for those items, go take a look, you will be shocked at what 
you see for sale without reserve. Save up your pennies and get ready to 
rumble.

Thanks 
Mike Farmer
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[meteorite-list] ensisheim tkw provenance

2002-11-27 Thread harlan trammell
there seems to be W-A-A-A-Y to much ensisheim out there for sale on websites based on the tkw AND the amount that actually got pilfered off the thing shortly after arrival (which had to be actually curated and held on to for 508 years if my math is correct, for you to get your lovely little micro from a website w/ paypal). ever see "the red violin"? well, the same kinda thing would have to happen for you to get your slice IF your slice is infact, true ensisheim and not some other skyrock that looks like it visually and geochemically. why would peasant- class people even consider preserving a skyock? what are the odds of it making it all the way to websites from 1492? a legit purchase of this rock would demand EXCELLENT provenance. would some please elaborate on this provenance established and how these cute little slices of an otherwise ordinary chondrite make it to websites, shows, and ultimately into livingrooms via a VERY phat ride on the wallet express. most wallets that tote this skyrock were big, phat lazy, channel- surfing , potato chip-chomping, couch commanders but after toting even a small slice of ens. those wallets were reduced to lean and mean, fit'n'trim builds similar to the builds of usmc drill instructor. w/ that kind of weight , you'd think the stuff was a neutron star. nosey noses wanna know.MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES.  Get 2 months FREE*.

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Re: [meteorite-list] ensisheim tkw provenance

2002-11-27 Thread Michael Farmer



is this a joke Harlan?
Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  harlan 
  trammell 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:56 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] ensisheim tkw 
  provenance
  
  
  there seems to be W-A-A-A-Y to much ensisheim out there for sale on 
  websites based on the tkw AND the amount that actually got pilfered off the 
  thing shortly after arrival (which had to be actually curated and held on to 
  for 508 years if my math is correct, for you to get your lovely little micro 
  from a website w/ paypal). ever see "the red violin"? well, the same kinda 
  thing would have to happen for you to get your slice IF your slice is infact, 
  true ensisheim and not some other skyrock that looks like it visually and 
  geochemically. why would peasant- class people even consider preserving a 
  skyock? what are the odds of it making it all the way to websites from 1492? a 
  legit purchase of this rock would demand EXCELLENT provenance. would some 
  please elaborate on this provenance established and how these cute little 
  slices of an otherwise ordinary chondrite make it to websites, shows, and 
  ultimately into livingrooms via a VERY phat ride on the wallet express. most 
  wallets that tote this skyrock were big, phat lazy, channel- surfing , potato 
  chip-chomping, couch commanders but after toting even a small slice of ens. 
  those wallets were reduced to lean and mean, fit'n'trim builds similar to the 
  builds of usmc drill instructor. w/ that kind of weight , you'd think the 
  stuff was a neutron star. nosey noses wanna know.
  
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[meteorite-list] glorieta pallasite

2002-11-27 Thread Robert Verish
Hello Harlan,

Your message comes a few days too soon for me, because
I'm busy at this very moment writing my article for
next month's MeteoriteTimes.com on this very subject. 
I hope my article will answer all of the questions you
posed to your satisfaction.  I'll also have plenty of
images of some more of those little blobs of
glorieta which have been recently found.

For now, I've got to get back to writing that article,
but I think Ron Hartman might have some good news to
report regarding his results after having etched some
of these blobs.

More later,
Bob V.

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[meteorite-list] glorieta pallasite 
harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:41:30 + 


htmldiv style='background-color:'DIVfor years
little blobs of glorieta have been for sale w/ little
or no olivene. well, then comes the main mass that's
load w/ it. are the blobs and the readily available,
olivene -loaded main mass the same skyrock? has there
been any geochemistry match-ups done on these? if yes,
then why are the olivenes so absent in the old blobs?
any body got pix of a sliced etched blob w/ olivne
crystal in it? i know that on my main mass slice, it
is loaded up w/ sulfides(troilite i guess). are
troilites found in the old blobs? also any of you
dealer types got any blobs 4 sale w/ visible
olivene? nosey noses wanna know./DIV/divbr
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[meteorite-list] Happy Holiday

2002-11-27 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
Will be away from my computer till Friday am. Wanted to wish everyone a happy 
holiday

Best regards,
Michael Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
932 Hanging Rock Road
Boiling Springs, South Carolina
29316-7401
USA
Tel: 1-864-578-5188 
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite To Go On Public Display in Melbourne, Australia

2002-11-27 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.abc.net.au/gippsland/news/reggip-27nov2002-2.htm

Meteorite to go on public display
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
November 27, 2002

A meteorite dug up by a farmer at Willow Grove, near Moe in
south Gippsland, will be exhibited at the Melbourne Museum next
week.

Dave Buckley found a nine kilogram meteorite and a smaller one
in the 1990s while ploughing a paddock.

The iron meteorite was unique because of its crystalline structure
and nickel content.

Curator in geology Bill Birch says other meteorites have been
found at Oberon Bay and Bendoc.

The Bendoc one, we'd love to have that one on display - it's one
of the oldest ones, it was found in a creek-bed in the late 1890s
and it ended up in the NSW Department of Mines, but it's been
lost, he said.

We have sort of put out search warrants for it, but it may well
have been something that because it was falling to bits, it may
well have been thrown out.

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