Re: [meteorite-list] Today's meteorite fall anniversary

2003-10-18 Thread Charlie Devine
John and Gregory,

Well, no quakes in New England thursday night/friday morn, but as rabid
baseball fans I'm sure you guys can understand the gloomy mood pervading
Boston and the rest of New England at the moment.  We do get an average
of 2-3 small quakes each month in RI and southeast Mass.but few are
noticed.  A small one last week produced a loud bang similar to the
famous Moodus noices that have been heard in the Moodus, Ct. area for
many centuries.  
Regards,
Charlie  


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[meteorite-list] Rocket Launch contrail

2003-10-18 Thread Robert Verish
Good Morning from Pasadena,

Just now observed the lingering contrail of a launch
all the way over at Vandenberg CA.

The way that this rocket exhaust twisted and was
distorted by the atmosphere at that high altitude
reminded me of our discussion about debris trails
from fireballs.

Definitely different from all the jet airliner
contrails that were in the sky at the same time.

By the time I found my digital camera, it had
dissapated too much to show the distinctive twisting.

I should check the launch schedule (if it isn't
classified info) and be better prepared the next time.
Bob V.


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[meteorite-list] a return to PARK FOREST, again

2003-10-18 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I got some good news today from my friend who lives down in
olympia fields.He decided to become a meteorite hunter this week for a day
and found 3 new piece's totalling 40 grams.Around the entrance to the
olympia golf course.So that gives me new hope that some more can be found
in and around that area, as well as olympia fields proper.So I will
becoming back down to PF on nov. 8th.I will meet anyone who wants to join
me in mattson early.Say 7:30 am?I will have my cell phone on so you can
get a hold of me.I have always believed that there is alot more of PF
lying out there somewhere.Let me know if anyone can make it that day.

 steve arnold, chicago, usa

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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-18 Thread E.J
IF I remember the admonitions of my chemistry teacher correctly..NEVER 
add Acid to the water  but add water to the acid.  Should there be a 
boil up  you'll get wet and not disolved.
Elton

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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-18 Thread Robert Woolard
--- E.J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 IF I remember the admonitions of my chemistry
 teacher correctly..NEVER 
 add Acid to the water  but add water to the acid. 
 Should there be a 
 boil up  you'll get wet and not disolved.

 Elton
 

  Hello Elton and list,

  I think it's the other way around, isn't it??

  Perhaps this explains why:

Never add water to acid, the heat of hydration could
boil the water/acid mixture as the first drops of
water mix with the acid.

When you add acid to water, it takes a lot of heat to
boil the large volume of water that you are hopefully
using. 

Or, using this memory aid:

 Lab Safety - Remembering that you add Acid to Water
not Water to Acid

 

AW can be a short form for Acid to Water; WA can be
a short form for Water to Acid. When verbalized, AW
sounds pleasant and good. A!. WA sounds menacing
and bad, WAHH!. If you can introduce this
laboratory safety rule to your students with lots of
enthusiasm, most will remember the rule because of
your antics.



I hope this helps... 

  (But it's been a LONG time since high school
chemistry! ;-)

  Sincerely,

  Robert Woolard


 


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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-18 Thread David Freeman
Dear Robert, List;
At the risk of being risky, I do add Acid to Water...and have for about 
10 years while preserving water samples for state regulated testing as 
per...EPA guidelinesmmm.!
More so than which order, is to remember to  wear glasses, be in a 
ventilated area and wear rubber gloves and apron.  The acid spillage in 
the wrong place is a  much larger concern to me than the order of the 
acid and water. Be Safe.
Dave (one eye) Freeman ;-)

Robert Woolard wrote:

--- E.J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

IF I remember the admonitions of my chemistry
teacher correctly..NEVER 
add Acid to the water  but add water to the acid. 
Should there be a 
boil up  you'll get wet and not disolved.

Elton

 Hello Elton and list,

 I think it's the other way around, isn't it??

 Perhaps this explains why:

Never add water to acid, the heat of hydration could
boil the water/acid mixture as the first drops of
water mix with the acid.
When you add acid to water, it takes a lot of heat to
boil the large volume of water that you are hopefully
using. 

Or, using this memory aid:

Lab Safety - Remembering that you add Acid to Water
not Water to Acid


AW can be a short form for Acid to Water; WA can be
a short form for Water to Acid. When verbalized, AW
sounds pleasant and good. A!. WA sounds menacing
and bad, WAHH!. If you can introduce this
laboratory safety rule to your students with lots of
enthusiasm, most will remember the rule because of
your antics.


I hope this helps... 

 (But it's been a LONG time since high school
chemistry! ;-)
 Sincerely,

 Robert Woolard





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Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-18 Thread E.J
What ever it is I'd like for the truth be known...My recollection is 
this was to avoid acid splash back.  However, 35 minutes-- little alone 
35 years, is a long time to test recall for me. Your explaination seems 
more rational .

Elton

Robert Woolard wrote:

Hello Elton and list,

I think it's the other way around, isn't it??
Perhaps this explains why:
Never add water to acid, the heat of hydration could
boil the water/acid mixture as the first drops of
water mix with the acid.
When you add acid to water, it takes a lot of heat to
boil the large volume of water that you are hopefully
using. 

Or, using this memory aid:

Lab Safety - Remembering that you add Acid to Water
not Water to Acid


AW can be a short form for Acid to Water; WA can be
a short form for Water to Acid. When verbalized, AW
sounds pleasant and good. A!. WA sounds menacing
and bad, WAHH!. If you can introduce this
laboratory safety rule to your students with lots of
enthusiasm, most will remember the rule because of
your antics.


I hope this helps... 

 (But it's been a LONG time since high school
chemistry! ;-)
 Sincerely,

 Robert Woolard

 



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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!

2003-10-18 Thread tett



What the heck does Gabbroic mean?

Took a look at the images on your web page. 
Sure is one cool looking meteorite

Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael Farmer 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 6:49 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW Eucrite, 
  absolutely the strangest ever seen!
  
  I have finally got a classification that I have 
  been waiting two years for. It is NWA 1925, a new Gabbroic Cumulate Eucrite. 
  This sucker is the strangest meteorite I have seen, we did not know what to 
  think when we cut it. Likewise the scientists have been having a fit with it. 
  It is unlike any known eucrite, large crystals up to 8mm of Plagioclase and 
  Pyroxenes. 
  Read the data for yourselves. I have a little for 
  sale, and that is it. 
  Grab it now, Ted Bunch said that it is one of the 
  most interesting meteorites that he has ever seen. 
  It is listed on my website. 
  I also hope to get the India webpage up later 
  tonight. 
  
  Mike Farmer
  www.meteoritehunter.com


[meteorite-list] Re: LUNARCHARITY: A Moon Rock for Emanuel!

2003-10-18 Thread Norbert Classen
On Oct. 17, 2003, Martin Altmann wrote:

 Please don't delete the message and take a look on this auction, 
 even when you hate ebay:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2197271212
 
 THE DEAL IS SIMPLE:  You get a good sized piece of a rare Moon rock
 (0.292gm, not a speck!) and the boy will get a wheelchair, a computer 
 for writing and medication.
 
 The finder is a member of this list,
 So perhaps Norbert you can say some words?

Yeap, that's true. The specimen that Martin is auctioning off for
poor little Emanuel is a genuine piece of the new lunar breccia
Dhofar xxx, lab.nr. 2001, so you can bid with confidence! The
classification has already been done (incl. O-isotope analysis),
and I can assure you that this is the real McCoy.

Hey Martin, I think it's a fabulous idea to auction this piece off
for charity, and I'm very proud that my new lunar will help this
little guy! So bid high, bid often - I don't have any of this 
special lunar left for sale, so it might be your last chance to
add it to your collection, and to do it without buyer's remorse ;)

All the best,
Norbert

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocket Launch contrail

2003-10-18 Thread John Gwilliam
Bob and List,
Over the past several years, I've also witnessed rocket launch contrails 
from Vandenburg.  Most were seen while in Costal Mexico, and the corkscrew 
effect caused by high level winds makes for a magnificent display.  Us 
folks here in Arizona are also treated to occasional early morning launches 
from the White Sands Range in New Mexico.  These pre-dawn trails are high 
enough that they catch the light from the sun and the orange worm trails 
in our still dark sky are quite spectacular.
Like Bob, I never seem to have my digital camera ready, although, they do 
announce some of the White Sands launches in advance.

Best,

John Gwilliam

At 09:36 AM 10/18/03 -0700, Robert Verish wrote:
Good Morning from Pasadena,

Just now observed the lingering contrail of a launch
all the way over at Vandenberg CA.
The way that this rocket exhaust twisted and was
distorted by the atmosphere at that high altitude
reminded me of our discussion about debris trails
from fireballs.
Definitely different from all the jet airliner
contrails that were in the sky at the same time.
By the time I found my digital camera, it had
dissapated too much to show the distinctive twisting.
I should check the launch schedule (if it isn't
classified info) and be better prepared the next time.
Bob V.
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[meteorite-list] Worden Meteorite images up

2003-10-18 Thread Matt Morgan
Since it is a quiet Saturday night, I thought I could post a few images of
the Worden Michigan car/garage hammer.  See the web site here for more
info...
http://www.mhmeteorites.com/worden/worden1.htm

Have a nice weekend!

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Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
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Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!

2003-10-18 Thread N Lehrman




Mark  others,

This is totally absurd. Look up "gabbro" if you can 
spell it. Then write.

Norm (an earth geologist that doesn't make up new 
definitions---)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark 
  Ferguson 
  To: tett 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:49 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW 
  Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!
  
  Hi Tett and list
  
  A gabro is a collection of individual rocks (they 
  don't have to be the same kind of rock either)welded or held together by 
  some cemmenting substance. Here on earth, the cemment can be cristobalite, 
  opal, limestone, stiltstone, and many other items. A cemment with rock in it 
  is a manmade gabro. So, gabroic infers that it is like a gabro.
  
  Mark
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
tett 
To: Michael Farmer ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:14 
PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW 
Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!

What the heck does Gabbroic mean?

Took a look at the images on your web 
page. Sure is one cool looking meteorite

Mike

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Michael Farmer 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 6:49 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW 
  Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!
  
  I have finally got a classification that I 
  have been waiting two years for. It is NWA 1925, a new Gabbroic Cumulate 
  Eucrite. This sucker is the strangest meteorite I have seen, we did not 
  know what to think when we cut it. Likewise the scientists have been 
  having a fit with it. It is unlike any known eucrite, large crystals up to 
  8mm of Plagioclase and Pyroxenes. 
  Read the data for yourselves. I have a little 
  for sale, and that is it. 
  Grab it now, Ted Bunch said that it is one of 
  the most interesting meteorites that he has ever seen. 
  It is listed on my website. 
  I also hope to get the India webpage up later 
  tonight. 
  
  Mike Farmer
  www.meteoritehunter.com


Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal

2003-10-18 Thread Steve Schoner
Has anyone thought of sodium bicarbonate as a neurtalizer? 

Carefullyspoon it in till it stops bubbling. After that, it is safe to flush down the drain, or tossoutside.

Steve Schoner/amstett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Better yet, donate the stuff. It lasts a long time and high schools as well as colleges use nitric acid. Of course, they may not be allowed to accept the acid without proper MSDS sheets or proof that it is not contaminated.

Cheers,

tett

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From: harlan trammell 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal



call a local college and ask their chemistry department head what THEY do w/ used up lab chemicals.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: [meteorite-list] nitric acid disposal 
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:03:36 EDT 
 
A while back I thought I'd try my hand at doing some iron-etching. After a 
few less than impressive attempts, and with the increasing realization that 
nitric acid is tremendously nasty stuff, I'm now wanting to get rid of the 
(almost) gallon I have. My local city Household Hazmat Disposal Center won't deal 
with it, as it's not "household" waste, and the Business Hazmat Disposal Center 
won't deal with it because I'm not a business. 
 
I'm wondering if I could carefully effect some sort of dilution-process and 
dispose of it myself, and I welcome any advice or suggestions, on-list or off. 
Thanx 
 
 Gregory 


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Re: [meteorite-list] NEW Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!

2003-10-18 Thread Michael Farmer



Excuse Friggin me, I am not a geologist, nor a 
great typist. Any other criticisms?
Mike Farmer

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  N Lehrman 
  
  To: Mark Ferguson ; tett 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 8:25 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW 
  Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!
  
  
  Mark  others,
  
  This is totally absurd. Look up "gabbro" if you can 
  spell it. Then write.
  
  Norm (an earth geologist that doesn't make up new 
  definitions---)
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Mark 
Ferguson 
To: tett 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 7:49 
PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW 
Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!

Hi Tett and list

A gabro is a collection of individual rocks 
(they don't have to be the same kind of rock either)welded or held 
together by some cemmenting substance. Here on earth, the cemment can be 
cristobalite, opal, limestone, stiltstone, and many other items. A cemment 
with rock in it is a manmade gabro. So, gabroic infers that it is like a 
gabro.

Mark

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  tett 
  To: Michael Farmer ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:14 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEW 
  Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!
  
  What the heck does Gabbroic 
mean?
  
  Took a look at the images on your web 
  page. Sure is one cool looking meteorite
  
  Mike
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Michael Farmer 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 
6:49 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] NEW 
Eucrite, absolutely the strangest ever seen!

I have finally got a classification that I 
have been waiting two years for. It is NWA 1925, a new Gabbroic Cumulate 
Eucrite. This sucker is the strangest meteorite I have seen, we did not 
know what to think when we cut it. Likewise the scientists have been 
having a fit with it. It is unlike any known eucrite, large crystals up 
to 8mm of Plagioclase and Pyroxenes. 
Read the data for yourselves. I have a 
little for sale, and that is it. 
Grab it now, Ted Bunch said that it is one 
of the most interesting meteorites that he has ever seen. 
It is listed on my website. 
I also hope to get the India webpage up 
later tonight. 

Mike Farmer
www.meteoritehunter.com


[meteorite-list] New Eucrite

2003-10-18 Thread Michael Farmer



Wow, I guess it is too cheap! The respnonse was 
overwhealming, I sold out my share in minutes. I will have more available 
tomorrow, as my partner has authorized me to sale his share, so anyone with an 
interest in acquiring a specimen of this beautiful and rare new meteorite, email 
me with what you might like. 
I don't have much to go around, so email me fast! 

Mike Farmer