[meteorite-list] OT: Google challenge

2004-02-03 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi All,

If you haven't already, check out the Google home page for today
(February 3rd), and see if you can figure out the significance.
Even cheating with a Google search, it may take you a while to
discover the meaning.

--Rob

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[meteorite-list] Todays Tucson Photos

2004-02-03 Thread Arizona Keith



Hello List

Just got back again from Tucson, 

Here're today's photos from the InnStuites.

Anne Black (Impactika) with a whole collection of meteorites for 
sale.
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004anneblack.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucsonannablack2.jpg

Kitty  Marvin Killgore (Southwest Meteorite Labs)
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucsonkillgores1.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004killgore1a.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004killgore2a.jpg

Alain Carion display, Alain was not there.
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004cariondisplay1a.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004cariondisplay2.jpg


Mike Farmer (meteoritehunter.com)and Eric Olson (ELKK 
Meteorites)room.
Mikes room was a little harder to find this year, he's onthe west 
side of the InnSuites facing the parking lot room 184.

http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004farmer1a.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004farmer2a.jpg


Gold display at Tucson.
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004gold1a.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/tucson2004gold2.jpg

Last time, My Yahoo account could not keep up with the large number of 
download hits, soI up graded account, it may work a little better this 
time, If not, email me and I'll email them to you.

Thanks for you time.
Keith
Chandler, Arizona




[meteorite-list] Beagle2 MOC Landing photo's released...

2004-02-03 Thread mark ford

Beagle Landing site photos released. Still no sign of it but some nice
Moc's of the site!

See:
http://www.beagle2.com/news/index.htm


And :
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/01/30/index.html



Mark Ford

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[meteorite-list] Specific Gravity method /calculation error

2004-02-03 Thread j . divelbiss
Roman and others,

I guess I really am slow/dumb. your SG answers maybe too small right now...

Well if you haven't blown anything up...I'm lucky. My calculation has an 
error in it from the other day. In the volume part of the equation I left out 
the division by 4 when using the diameter for area. If you use the radius(1/2 
diameter)...then you don't need the 4. The corrected method is below:
***

Then I use a cylinder(round) shaped coffee can for small items, or a straight 
sided bucket for larger items to determine the volume of the object by the 
change in height of the water: first without the object and then with the 
object. As a slow American I use a stick rule in inches to figure this out.

so it goes like this:

determine weight in OUNCES

Determine the change in volume in the water level by measuring the:
HEIGHT without object first
HEIGHT with the object second

The difference in height in inches is then used to calculate the SG along 
with some conversions factors to get it into grams/centimeter cubed.

change or delta Volume = Area of container circle x inches in height(change)
delta V =(pie or 3.14...)x diameter(inches) squared)x(height change in 
inches)/4(Note: this is where I has left out the 4)

delta V is a number in inches cubed

the conversion formula without all the details is as follows:

SG = (object in OUNCES/delta V in inches cubed)x(0.06102/0.03527) = SG in 
grams/cm cubed  (Note: without the 4 your SG answer would have been 4 
times smaller)

0.06102 is the conversion of cubic inches to cubic centimeters
0.03527 is the conversion of ounces to grams.

For the smart users of metric the metric systemthe answer is determined 
by the change in volume in cubic centimeters cubed and the weight in grams or:

Weight in grams/change in Volume in centimetes cubed (now that seems easier 
doesn't it)  = grams/cm cubed 

Bottom line is most rocks have SG of 1.5 to 3, heavier rocks full of iron 

like stony meteorites are in the 3 to 5 range, and steel and it's metal 
friends like iron meteorites are in the neighborhood of 7 to 8. Silver and 
Lead in the 10 to 11 range and gold all the way up near 18 to 19.

Sheesh,

John


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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Answer to the Google challenge

2004-02-03 Thread martinh
The answer to the google.com google doodle for Feb 3rd is at the bottom of this email.

- Original Message -
From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2004 0:01 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT:  Google challenge

 Hi All,
 
 If you haven't already, check out the Google home page for today
 (February 3rd), and see if you can figure out the significance.
 Even cheating with a Google search, it may take you a while to
 discover the meaning.
 
 --Rob
 


Answer:


Gaston Maurice Julia. Born 3 Feb 1893 in Sidi Bel Abbès, Algeria Died 19 March1978 in 
Paris, France. Click the picture above to see five larger pictures  
http://www-gap.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Julia.html 
Extractions: When only 25 when Gaston Julia published his 199 page masterpiece which 
made him famous in the mathematics centres of his days. As a soldier in the First 
World War, Julia had been severely wounded in an attack on the French front design
ed to celebrate the Kaiser's birthday. Many on both sides were wounded including Julia 
who lost his nose and had to wear a leather strap across his face for the rest of his 
life. Between several painful operations he carried on his mathematical researches in 
hospital. Later he became a distinguished professor at the Ecole Polytechnique in 
Paris. In 1918 Julia published a beautiful paper (1918), 47-245, concerning the 
iteration of a rational function f . Julia gave a precise description of the set J(f) 
of those z in C for which the n th iterate f n z ) stays bounded as n Seminars were 
organised in Berlin in 1925 to study his work and participants included Brauer Hopf 
and Reidemeister . H Cremer produced an essay on his work which included the first 
visualisation of a Julia set.


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[meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic on sale now.

2004-02-03 Thread Roman Jirasek



List, remember this little cut meteorite with the 
tiny chondrules?:

http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA2.jpgWell, you can have it if you bid, see the ebay link below. 
Also a few other nice specimens available.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=roman...include=0since=-1sort=3rows=50

Have fun bidding.
Roman Jirasek
www.meteoritelabels.com








RE: [meteorite-list] Specific Gravity method /calculation error

2004-02-03 Thread Roman Nakonechny
Thanks John. A visit to our great ally France oughtta  git yew metricized 
mighty quick-like . The delta component of your calculation cause a Cold 
Fusion Reaction inthe coffee can and now there's a great depression in the 
earth where my suburb used to be.We need to get our stories straight, John. 
={:-)  L  A  T  E  R  ~~~*Roman



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Subject: [meteorite-list] Specific 
Gravity method /calculation error
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:39:52 +

Roman and others,

I guess I really am slow/dumb. your SG answers maybe too small right now...

Well if you haven't blown anything up...I'm lucky. My calculation has an
error in it from the other day. In the volume part of the equation I left 
out
the division by 4 when using the diameter for area. If you use the 
radius(1/2
diameter)...then you don't need the 4. The corrected method is below:
***

Then I use a cylinder(round) shaped coffee can for small items, or a 
straight
sided bucket for larger items to determine the volume of the object by the
change in height of the water: first without the object and then with the
object. As a slow American I use a stick rule in inches to figure this out.

so it goes like this:

determine weight in OUNCES

Determine the change in volume in the water level by measuring the:
HEIGHT without object first
HEIGHT with the object second
The difference in height in inches is then used to calculate the SG along
with some conversions factors to get it into grams/centimeter cubed.
change or delta Volume = Area of container circle x inches in 
height(change)
delta V =(pie or 3.14...)x diameter(inches) squared)x(height change in
inches)/4(Note: this is where I has left out the 4)

delta V is a number in inches cubed

the conversion formula without all the details is as follows:

SG = (object in OUNCES/delta V in inches cubed)x(0.06102/0.03527) = SG in
grams/cm cubed  (Note: without the 4 your SG answer would have been 4
times smaller)
0.06102 is the conversion of cubic inches to cubic centimeters
0.03527 is the conversion of ounces to grams.
For the smart users of metric the metric systemthe answer is determined
by the change in volume in cubic centimeters cubed and the weight in grams 
or:

Weight in grams/change in Volume in centimetes cubed (now that seems easier
doesn't it)  = grams/cm cubed
Bottom line is most rocks have SG of 1.5 to 3, heavier rocks full of iron

like stony meteorites are in the 3 to 5 range, and steel and it's metal
friends like iron meteorites are in the neighborhood of 7 to 8. Silver and
Lead in the 10 to 11 range and gold all the way up near 18 to 19.
Sheesh,

John

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[meteorite-list] Astronomers Suggest Comet To Blame for 6th-Century 'Nuclear Winter'

2004-02-03 Thread Ron Baalke


Contact: Dr Derek Ward-Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
029-2087-5314
Cardiff University
February 3, 2004

Astronomers unravel a mystery of the Dark Ages

Undergraduates' work blames comet for 6th-century nuclear winter

Scientists at Cardiff University, UK, believe they have discovered the cause
of crop failures and summer frosts some 1,500 years ago - a comet colliding
with Earth.

The team has been studying evidence from tree rings, which suggests that the
Earth underwent a series of very cold summers around 536-540 AD, indicating
an effect rather like a nuclear winter.

The scientists in the School of Physics and Astronomy believe this was
caused by a comet hitting the earth and exploding in the upper atmosphere.
The debris from this giant explosion was such that it enveloped the earth in
soot and ash, blocking out the sunlight and causing the very cold weather.

This effect is known as a plume and is similar to that which was seen when
comet Shoemaker-Levy-9 hit Jupiter in 1995.

Historical references from this period - known as the Dark Ages - are
sparse, but what records there are, tell of crop failures and summer frosts.

The work was carried out by two Cardiff undergraduate students, Emma Rigby
and Mel Symonds, as part of their student project work under the supervision
of Dr Derek Ward-Thompson.

Their findings are reported in the February issue of Astronomy and
Geophysics, the in-house magazine of the Royal Astronomical Society.

The surprising result of the new work is just how small a comet is needed to
cause such dramatic effects. The scientists calculate that a comet not much
more than half a kilometre across could cause a global nuclear winter
effect. This is significantly smaller than was previously thought.

Dr. Ward-Thompson said: One of the exciting aspects of this work is that we
have re-classified the size of comet that represents a global threat. This
work shows that even a comet of only half a kilometre in size could have
global consequences. Previously nothing less than a kilometre across was
counted as a global threat. If such an event happened again today, then once
again a large fraction of the earth's population could face starvation.

The comet impact caused crop failures and wide-spread starvation among the
sixth century population. The timing coincides with the Justinian Plague,
widely believed to be the first appearance of the Black Death in Europe. It
is possible that the plague was so rampant and took hold so quickly because
the population was already weakened by starvation.

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[meteorite-list] The Rosetta Space Probe Long Trek To Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko

2004-02-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.esa.int/export/esaCP/SEMM0JWA6QD_index_0.html

European Space Agency
Paris, 3 February 2004
Information Note
N° 03-2004
ROSETTA N° 1

Getting together in deep space

The Rosetta space probe's long trek to Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko

The countdown to Rosetta's rendezvous in space began on 1 March 1997. At
the end of February 2004, seven years and not a few headaches later, the
European Space Agency (ESA) probe will at last be setting off on its
journey to meet Comet Churyumov-Gerasimenko. The long-planned get-together
will not however take place until the middle of 2014. A few months after
arriving at the comet, Rosetta will release a small lander onto its
surface. Then, for almost two years it will investigate
Churyumov-Gerasimenko from close up.

Dr Gerhard Schwehm, lead scientist for the Rosetta project, explains that,
With this mission we will be breaking new ground - this will be the first
protracted cometary encounter. The trip to the meeting place in space
will certainly be a long one, located as it is some 4.5 astronomical units
from the Sun, which translates into something like 675 million kilometres.
Rosetta will be on the road for ten years, during which time it will clock
up in excess of five billion kilometres.

Launch in February 2004

Rosetta will be waved off on 26 February when it lifts off from the space
centre in Kourou, French Guiana aboard an Ariane 5 launcher. Shortly after
the spacecraft's release, its solar panels will be deployed and turned
towards the Sun to build up the necessary power reserves. Its various
systems and experiments will be gradually brought into operation and
tested. Just three months into the mission the first active phase will be
over, followed by final testing of the experiments in October 2004.
Rosetta will then spend the following years flying a lonely path to the
comet, passing by the Earth, Mars, the Earth and the Earth again.

There is no alternative to this detour, for even Ariane 5, the most
powerful launcher on the market today, lacks the power to hurl the probe
on a direct route to the comet. To get the required momentum, it will rely
on swing-by maneuvres, using the gravitation pull of Mars (in 2007) and
the Earth (three times, in 2005, 2007 and 2008) to pick up speed.

Asteroids for company

A change is as good as a rest, and a meeting with at least one asteroid
should help break the monotony for Rosetta. The spacecraft will come close
to an asteroid at the end of 2008. Asteroids are, it will be remembered,
rocky bodies, some as large as mountains, some even larger, that orbit the
Sun in much the same way as planets.

These 'brief encounters' are a scientific opportunity and also a chance
to test Rosetta's instrument payload, says Gerhard Schwehm. But asteroid
exploration also serves an entirely practical purpose: The more we find
out about them, the better the prospect of being able one day to avert a
possible collision. Following a period of low-activity cruising, the
probe's course will be adjusted one last time in May 2011. From July 2011,
a further two-and-a-half years' radio silence will be observed, and
Rosetta, left entirely to its own resources, will fly close to the Jupiter
orbit.

Link-up in 2014

Finally, in January 2014, the probe will be reactivated and will, by
October 2014, be only a few kilometres distant from Churyumov-Gerasimenko.
This is where the dream of so many scientists becomes reality. Having
deposited its precious lander cargo on the comet's surface, Rosetta will
continue to orbit Churyumov-Gerasimenko and together they will spend the
next seventeen months flying towards the Sun.

Rosetta was built by an international consortium led by Astrium. The
lander probe was developed in Cologne under the aegis of the DLR,
Germany’s space agency, with contributions from ESA and research centres
in Austria, Finland, France, Hungary, Ireland, Italy and Great Britain.

The comet explorer carries ten scientific instruments. Their job is to
draw out the secrets of the comet's chemical and physical composition and
reveal its magnetic and electrical properties. Using a specially designed
camera, the lander will take pictures in the macro and micro ranges and
send all the data thus acquired back to Earth, via Rosetta.

This will be our first ever chance to be there, at first hand, so to
speak, as a comet comes to life, Schwehm goes on to explain. When
Churyumov-Gerasimenko gets to within about 500 million kilometres of the
Sun, the frozen gases that envelop it will evaporate and a trail of dust
will be blown back over hundreds of thousands of kilometres. When
illuminated by the Sun, this characteristic comet tail then becomes
visible from Earth. In the course of the mission, the processes at work
within the cometary nucleus will be studied and measured more precisely
than has ever before been possible, for earlier probes simply flew past
their targets. As we will be accompanying Churyumov-Gerasimenko for two
years, until the 

RE: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Suggest Comet To Blame for 6th-Century 'Nuclear Winter'

2004-02-03 Thread Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems
I mean, do they offer some PROOF for their theory? A plume is nothing
that would have gone unobserved by the eye (left alone a comet exploding
in the sky) - and as much as I know, the mini ice age at that time
wasn't a global occurence, but rather a european one - at least to my
knowledge. There has been a second mini ice age around 1500 in Europe,
and this is either attributed to the Maraunder solar minimum or the
change of the gulf stream.

Bernhard

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6th-Century 'Nuclear Winter'




Contact: Dr Derek Ward-Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
029-2087-5314
Cardiff University
February 3, 2004

Astronomers unravel a mystery of the Dark Ages

Undergraduates' work blames comet for 6th-century nuclear winter

Scientists at Cardiff University, UK, believe they have discovered the
cause of crop failures and summer frosts some 1,500 years ago - a comet
colliding with Earth.

The team has been studying evidence from tree rings, which suggests that
the Earth underwent a series of very cold summers around 536-540 AD,
indicating an effect rather like a nuclear winter.

The scientists in the School of Physics and Astronomy believe this was
caused by a comet hitting the earth and exploding in the upper
atmosphere. The debris from this giant explosion was such that it
enveloped the earth in soot and ash, blocking out the sunlight and
causing the very cold weather.

This effect is known as a plume and is similar to that which was seen
when comet Shoemaker-Levy-9 hit Jupiter in 1995.

Historical references from this period - known as the Dark Ages - are
sparse, but what records there are, tell of crop failures and summer
frosts.

The work was carried out by two Cardiff undergraduate students, Emma
Rigby and Mel Symonds, as part of their student project work under the
supervision of Dr Derek Ward-Thompson.

Their findings are reported in the February issue of Astronomy and
Geophysics, the in-house magazine of the Royal Astronomical Society.

The surprising result of the new work is just how small a comet is
needed to cause such dramatic effects. The scientists calculate that a
comet not much more than half a kilometre across could cause a global
nuclear winter effect. This is significantly smaller than was previously
thought.

Dr. Ward-Thompson said: One of the exciting aspects of this work is
that we have re-classified the size of comet that represents a global
threat. This work shows that even a comet of only half a kilometre in
size could have global consequences. Previously nothing less than a
kilometre across was counted as a global threat. If such an event
happened again today, then once again a large fraction of the earth's
population could face starvation.

The comet impact caused crop failures and wide-spread starvation among
the sixth century population. The timing coincides with the Justinian
Plague, widely believed to be the first appearance of the Black Death in
Europe. It is possible that the plague was so rampant and took hold so
quickly because the population was already weakened by starvation.

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[meteorite-list] [AD] Big NWA 869 full slice for trade

2004-02-03 Thread Lars Pedersen



Helo all

I have "upgraded" my NWA 869 with a bigger end 
piece, so my 13 x 7,5 cm og 3 mm thick, 
full slice is for trade it weight 76 gram (on my 
letterveight).

It is a very fine slice that realy show the 
caracteristics of thismost interesting meteorite.

I also have a couple of other smaler ones (31 ang 
49 gram)of the same meteorite if anyone is interested.

What I want:

- Big slice of another meteorite stone or iron.
or
- Nice big Canyon diablo 
or
- Something else, that might be interesting 
;-)


anyone interested, write to me 
offlist.

Best wishes
Lars Pedersen





RE: [meteorite-list] Specific Gravity method /calculation error

2004-02-03 Thread Howard Wu
Why not just use a graduated measuring cup. You can even stick it in a condom or plastic bagand suck the air out for an estimated dry measurement.

Howard WuRoman Nakonechny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks John. A visit to our great ally France oughtta git yew metricized mighty quick-like . The delta component of your calculation cause a Cold Fusion Reaction inthe coffee can and now there's a great depression in the earth where my suburb used to be.We need to get our stories straight, John. ={:-) L A T E R ~~~*RomanFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Subject: [meteorite-list] Specific Gravity method /calculation errorDate: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 12:39:52 +Roman and others,I guess I really am slow/dumb. your SG answers maybe too small right now...Well if you haven't blown anything up...I'm lucky. My calculation has anerror in it from the other day. In the volume part of the equation I left
 outthe division by 4 when using the diameter for area. If you use the radius(1/2diameter)...then you don't need the 4. The corrected method is below:***Then I use a cylinder(round) shaped coffee can for small items, or a straightsided bucket for larger items to determine the volume of the object by thechange in height of the water: first without the object and then with theobject. As a slow American I use a stick rule in inches to figure this out.so it goes like this:determine weight in OUNCESDetermine the change in volume in the water level by measuring the:HEIGHT without object firstHEIGHT with the object secondThe difference in height in inches is then used to calculate the SG alongwith some conversions factors to get it into grams/centimeter
 cubed.change or delta Volume = Area of container circle x inches in height(change)delta V =(pie or 3.14...)x diameter(inches) squared)x(height change ininches)/4 (Note: this is where I has left out the 4)delta V is a number in inches cubedthe conversion formula without all the details is as follows:SG = (object in OUNCES/delta V in inches cubed)x(0.06102/0.03527) = SG ingrams/cm cubed (Note: without the 4 your SG answer would have been 4times smaller)0.06102 is the conversion of cubic inches to cubic centimeters0.03527 is the conversion of ounces to grams.For the smart users of metric the metric systemthe answer is determinedby the change in volume in cubic centimeters cubed and the weight in grams or:Weight in grams/change in Volume in centimetes cubed (now that seems easierdoesn't it) = grams/cm
 cubedBottom line is most rocks have SG of 1.5 to 3, heavier rocks full of ironlike stony meteorites are in the 3 to 5 range, and steel and it's metalfriends like iron meteorites are in the neighborhood of 7 to 8. Silver andLead in the 10 to 11 range and gold all the way up near 18 to 19.Sheesh,John__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list_Check out the new MSN 9 Dial-up — fast  reliable Internet access with prime features! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=dialup/homeST=1__Meteorite-list mailing
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[meteorite-list] Willcox Playa

2004-02-03 Thread Robert Verish
To those going on the field trip to Willcox on Feb
8th:

There have been other organized groups that went to
Willcox Playa with the intent to search for
meteorites.

My most recent Bob's Findings article:
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2004/feb04.htm
is a recap of past meteorite-recovery efforts at
Willcox Playa, and I make mention of this earlier
field trip in the above article.

Below is a portion of the text from that article:
-
OTHER References related to Willcox Playa:

Lunar and Planetary Lab - University of Arizona -
Planetary Geology Field Practicum (PTYS 594A) took a
local trip to southwestern Arizona. 
They hunted for meteorites on Wilcox Playa!! - 

Spring 2003 Field Trip:
  Chiricahua Mountains - 02-04 May 2003
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~planagan/pics/0305_swariz/

http://rossbeyer.net/photos/chiricahuas/ 

Recent article in which Willcox Playa was compared as
an analog to the Martian surface on which the Mars
Rovers landed: 

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=localstory



Hope the above information and article is of some
help.
Bob V.



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[meteorite-list] A Tucson Request

2004-02-03 Thread almitt
Those in Tucson,

Would someone privately email me off list the room number of HK International Trading 
(probably Inn Suites) so I can contact them. Needing to talk to Edwardo. All my best 
and thanks in advance.

--AL Mitterling


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Re: [meteorite-list] corrosion question

2004-02-03 Thread Thomas Merz
Dear Gregory, Howard, Piper and Roman:

Thank you very much for your help concerning corrosion behaviour of Gujba and/or Udei 
Station!

Regards,
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[meteorite-list] Ad, Meteorites A to Z: 2nd Ed., Tucson

2004-02-03 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Everybody,  Just a note that I received my shipment of Meteorites A to Z: Second Edition today. Most of the books are already sold to pre-orders however I do have a few copies left (before I have to restock..of course). I am selling the book for $19.00 the first month. US shipping is $3.50, Canada $5.00, Elsewhere $10.00. The book has also been signed by one of the authors. Pay Pal payments today, will get shipping tomorrow, before I leave for Tucson.   Looking forward to the show and the people.  Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.


[meteorite-list] Campo Bargain

2004-02-03 Thread BOORX4


Greetings list members,

I just happen to come across a meteorite seller from Uruguay here at the Tucson show (not listedon the meteorite list for this show). They are the Giroldi brothers who are selling only NEW Campo meteorites and at the unheard of price of only 8-10 cents per gram. If you want a cut and etched piece you will pay 15 cents a gram.
Just purchased myself a fantastic cut piece of 630grams. Unfortunately, all the small pieces are already gone. Lots of material from 900 grams to tens of kilos.
They can be found at the Howard Johnson motel along the frontage road between Congress and 22nd streets.
The show is already jumping and it just began.

Bob



[meteorite-list] Web Site Going Down?

2004-02-03 Thread Walter Branch



Hello Everyone,

I am having problems with my website host. 
They have resorted to questionable business practices and insults andthey 
may (against my wishes)pull the plug on my site at any moment. 


If anyone wants anything at my site (images or 
whatever) I would advise you get a copy now. Unless I can get some issues 
resolved tonight, it may not be there tomorrow.

(I do have backups on my hard drive, 
though)

-Walter
--www.branchmeteorites.com


[meteorite-list] my nevada meteorite puzzle

2004-02-03 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hello list.I got a partial classification on my nevada meteorite puzzle.It
looks a possible H.It has lots of metal with very dark brown
chondrules.This is all I know at this time.With in the next few months I
should have more info involving the petrological part of the
classification.More to come later.

 steve arnold, chicago

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Rover Spirit Restored to Health

2004-02-03 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 What type of operating system or machine language environment is being used?  
 How many megabytes is the total flash memory's capacity?  

The operating system is VxWorks, a real-time Unix operating system. It was
also used on the Sojourner rover.  I've programmed on VxWorks before, and it
is a nice operating system, though I admit I have a Unix bias. Most of the 
rover's software is in C. The flash memory is 128 MB.  

Ron Baalke


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Re: [meteorite-list] Web Site Going Down?

2004-02-03 Thread magellon



Walter,
If the worst happens, don't
go with Yahoo. They are incredibly
difficult to work with.
Best,
ken newton
# 9632



Walter Branch wrote:

Hello
Everyone,I am having
problems with my website host. They have resorted to questionable
business practices and insults and they may (against my wishes) pull the
plug on my site at any moment.If
anyone wants anything at my site (images or whatever) I would advise you
get a copy now. Unless I can get some issues resolved tonight, it
may not be there tomorrow.(I
do have backups on my hard drive, though)-Walter--
www.branchmeteorites.com





Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Suggest Comet To Blame for 6th-Century 'Nuclear Winter'

2004-02-03 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

The comet theory is not new nor original with these researchers. There
is a book published 4-5 years ago by Baille (title now forgotten by me) that
advance the same explanation for the same phenomenon.
The bad years of 536-540 AD are a world-wide event. In fact, it seems
to have been at its very worst in SW China, where according to the
chronicles, the sun was not seen for three years! Crops failed totally,
and everything was covered with dust a foot deep.
This description has given rise to the alternative theory of these
events, which is that there was a volcanic eruption of tremendous size and
world-wide effect. The culprit that is advanced is Krakatoa, which did have
a massive early episode sometime between 500 BC and 1000 AD, one 10 times
bigger than the 1883 episode.
However strata from this earlier event are hard to find and none that
have been found have been datable with any precision, so it remains only a
possibility, but not a proven one.
The greatest volcanic event of the last 500 years was Tambora on the
island of Sumbawa in Indonesia in 1815, a 13,000-foot volcano that belched
f1ame and ash from April 7 to 12, 1815; and rained stone fragments on
surrounding villages. It has been estimated that Tambora's titanic explosion
blew from 37 to 100 cubic miles of dust, ashes, and cinders into the
atmosphere, generating a globe-girdling veil of volcanic dust.
This produced The Year Without A Summer world-wide in 1816. For
fascinating details, see: http://wchs.csc.noaa.gov/1816.htm. Of course,
the effects described in this fascinating piece of history could just as
easily have been produced by a insignificant little 150-200 meter comet.
At the time (1816), the cause was complete mystery (except to Benj.
Franklin, who hypothesized the cause to be volcanic dust). Tambora was not
identified as the culprit for almost a century (1913).


Sterling K. Webb


Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems wrote:

 I mean, do they offer some PROOF for their theory? A plume is nothing
 that would have gone unobserved by the eye (left alone a comet exploding
 in the sky) - and as much as I know, the mini ice age at that time
 wasn't a global occurence, but rather a european one - at least to my
 knowledge. There has been a second mini ice age around 1500 in Europe,
 and this is either attributed to the Maraunder solar minimum or the
 change of the gulf stream.

 Bernhard

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 Cardiff University
 February 3, 2004

 Astronomers unravel a mystery of the Dark Ages

 Undergraduates' work blames comet for 6th-century nuclear winter

 Scientists at Cardiff University, UK, believe they have discovered the
 cause of crop failures and summer frosts some 1,500 years ago - a comet
 colliding with Earth.

 The team has been studying evidence from tree rings, which suggests that
 the Earth underwent a series of very cold summers around 536-540 AD,
 indicating an effect rather like a nuclear winter.

 The scientists in the School of Physics and Astronomy believe this was
 caused by a comet hitting the earth and exploding in the upper
 atmosphere. The debris from this giant explosion was such that it
 enveloped the earth in soot and ash, blocking out the sunlight and
 causing the very cold weather.

 This effect is known as a plume and is similar to that which was seen
 when comet Shoemaker-Levy-9 hit Jupiter in 1995.

 Historical references from this period - known as the Dark Ages - are
 sparse, but what records there are, tell of crop failures and summer
 frosts.

 The work was carried out by two Cardiff undergraduate students, Emma
 Rigby and Mel Symonds, as part of their student project work under the
 supervision of Dr Derek Ward-Thompson.

 Their findings are reported in the February issue of Astronomy and
 Geophysics, the in-house magazine of the Royal Astronomical Society.

 The surprising result of the new work is just how small a comet is
 needed to cause such dramatic effects. The scientists calculate that a
 comet not much more than half a kilometre across could cause a global
 nuclear winter effect. This is significantly smaller than was previously
 thought.

 Dr. Ward-Thompson said: One of the exciting aspects of this work is
 that we have re-classified the size of comet that represents a global
 threat. This work shows that even a comet of only half a kilometre in
 size could have global consequences. Previously nothing less than a
 kilometre across was counted as a global threat. If such an event
 happened again today, then once again a large fraction of the earth's
 population could face 

Re: [meteorite-list] Web Site Going Down?

2004-02-03 Thread Impactika
In a message dated 2/3/04 8:06:40 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Walter, 
If the worst happens, don't 
go with Yahoo. They are incredibly 
difficult to work with. 
Best, 
ken newton 
# 9632 


That's the understatement of the year!!!
Just ask Rhett Bourland and Ken Newton for details!

Anne M. Black
IMCA #2356
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