Re: [meteorite-list] Hello----and would like some help please.
Dear Group, My name is Kirk, I live in Wisconsin. I am a NEW member in the group. I wish you all well, and I look forward to learning from you all. I am just beginning my Meteorite collection, although I have been interested in them for years now. I would like to add a few new pieces to my collection, while trying to keep my costs down. I would like to begin with by adding a nice piece of the Allende Meteorite to my collection, I have heard a great deal about its beauty and colors. I ALSO would like to add a Stony piece and a Stony-Iron speciman. Perhaps a piece of NWA869 or something similiar for the Stony piece, and perhaps a piece of the Imilac Meteorite for the Stony-Iron speciman. I would also like an example perhaps of a non-Henbury Iron type speciman, I already have a nice piece of Henbury. AndI would like to add that I can't spend t much right now, but I would like to add these 3 or 4 pieces to my collection right now, while I learn more about some of the others. I hope that there will be some good folks out there who will come forward, who can sell me some nice GENUINE pieces, at a REASONABLE price. I know now is a good time to start collecting more, because the prices are down. So I am looking for someone to help me get going. Please contact me off-list if you would like, or on-list too! Thank you very much in advance! Have a great July 4th everyone, but play it safe! Sincerely, Kirk. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone shed light on the TKW of the Marlow, Oklahoma meteorite? My NHM database and Meteorites A-Z list the TKW at 340 grams, but I have a 171-gram endpiece, which really does not visually appear to be half of the one 340g stone that is listed as being found. Presumably more material has been recovered, than is listed? Gregory J. Gregory Wilson 2118 Wilshire Blvd. #918 Santa Monica, CA 90403 USA (310) 913-2598 --- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA CDROM : Special offer NOW !
Hello to the List Meteor-Center creates the 1st CD-ROM dedicated to NWA meteorites ! If you're lost in the jungle of NWA meteorites, this CD is for you ! It's also useful to meteorite dealers, collectors... It contains :- the most complete source of information about NWA (up to number 3134)-many pictures- a search engine to find everything you wish on the CD- a selection of useful web links- a glossary- a complete classification table The CD is in English and is readable on PC and MAC computers (witha standard webnavigator) SPECIAL PRICES FROM JULY 3 TO JULY 10 2004- Europe (euro zone) : 20 euros (pp included) instead of 25 euros- Rest of the World (including USA) : US$ 24.95 (pp included) instead of $29.95 PAYMENT- Only with Paypal HOW TO PREORDER THE CD-ROM ?- Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your email, complete address and country. You'll receive a mailon how topay the CD. DELIVERY TIME- Between 10 and 20 days after payment Thanks to all. Pierre-Marie PELEMeteor-center.com--Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New member
My name is Kirk, I live in Wisconsin. I am a NEW member in the group. Hello Kirk and List, Hi Kirk and welcome to our List. I would like to begin with by adding a nice piece of the Allende Meteorite to my collection, I have heard a great deal about its beauty and colors. Well, Allende is a hallmark meteorite - a carbonaceous chondrite and a witnessed fall - this has its price ... about $ 7.00 per gram. Quite as nice and with equally stunning, colorful chondrules is Dean's NWA 2224. Here is his EBay link: http://stores.ebay.com/AMUNRE-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQsclZallQQsotimedisplayZ2QQtZkm NWA 2224, a find from Northwest Africa, is also a CV3 like Allende but a lot cheaper - about $4.50 and obtainable from Dean with the Buy It Now option on EBay. a piece of NWA869 or something similar ... Here it is again Dean Bessey (seller ID: amunre) who has some stunning pieces on EBay right now, for example #B447 or #B450. These two are *cheap* and have a very busy matrix! If you prefer an affordable, highly polished slice, then our list member Maria Haas may be able to offer you something very nice. a piece of the Imilac Meteorite for the Stony-Iron specimen. Small Imilac individuals (although without olivines) can be purchased from several meteorite dealers, most of them also members of this list: a) Eric Twelker: http://www.meteoritemarket.com/IC.htm b) Eric Olson: http://www.star-bits.com/imilac.htm c) Rodrigo Martinez: http://www.meteorites.cl/b-venta/sale-total.htm etc., etc. Imilac slices with beautiful olivines are a bit more difficult and more expensive to come by. If you are after an affordable slice with olivines, then Brahin may be a much cheaper alternative. Ivan Koutirev offers several on EBay (seller ID: finmet): http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=finmetsort=3page=1rows=25since=-1showpics=1stab=0 I would also like an example perhaps of a non-Henbury Iron type finmet has several Sikhote-Alin irons that may appeal to your taste and to your purse, and, there are several, very nice Canyon Diablo and Odessa meteorites out there at tempting prices. Gold Basin meteorites may also be of interest to you as they are quite affordable with some very interesting features: - price / - terrestrial age / - classificational criteria / - strewn field data Best wishes from Germany, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Final,Final Meteorite Givaway #10
Hello list.I want to wish everyone a great and HAPPY 4TH of july around this great country of ours.And to any non-americans who are in our country,I hope you have a great day also.I have a 8.8 gram individual of a SAHARAN piece for immediate distribution.I also have 23.2 small block of NWA 349 ALSO.These are the very FINAL,FINAL of all the giveaways that I have.The first 2 people who chime in, are the winners.Paypal for the usa is $4.00 priority,everywhere else,$5.00.Please get your emails ready.THEY ARE F R E E!!! STEVE ARNOLD, CHICAGO, USA!!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim - total original weight discrepancies
Hi Bernd, pound and zentner weren't the weights or units of today, so from this figures one can't say nothing about the Ensisheim stone weight. For this it would be necessary to have the meaning of zentner and pound of that region at those time as well as the meanings of those units of the publishers time and regions of those authors. I don't have the medieval weights here, but still in the 18th century in central Europe almost each free town and shire had their own weights. F.e. a pound varied in 18th century from 301.23 of our grams in Venezia up to 1000grams in the Netherlands and a zentner could have more than 100 pounds (for instance 110 pounds in Preussen). Cheers! Martin PS: - Allende one can find frequently offered at 3$ on ebay and as a very prominent fall it isespecially for beginners not comparable to a desert find. - finmet has the problem for small items of the 10$ shipment rip off - excellent Imilac slices, translucent and moderate priced, one will find at Moritz Karl/ S.Vassiliev http://www.sv-meteorites.com/ - they have a great stock, for the case, that they are not listed on the homepage. - With Brahin there is always the trouble with oxidation, so you should recommend Kirk to take a sealed one. PPS: Anyone there who wants my 168gram Monnig-Travis-County(a) at 2$/g free ship?? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 7:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim - total original weight discrepancies Hello Zelimir, Confreres, and List, My little Ensisheim meteorite slice is still keeping me busy. While re-reading U.B. Marvin's thorough, detailed review in Meteoritics 27-1, 1992, pp. 28-72, I focused my attention on the weights mentioned in several different broadsheets and chronicles. S. Brant's broadsheets (both the original and pirated versions) state the stone was drei Zentner schwer (1 Zentner = 50 kg). U.B. Marvin also mentions the Nuremberg Chronicle of 1493, and fig. 2 in her review (p. 40) shows a Latin passage from that chronicle with a woodcut of the fall of the Ensisheim stone, by the way a mirror-reversed presentation of the incoming meteorite. There is also a German version of the Nuremberg Chronicle and I was happy enough to buy a facsimile version some months ago at one of our bookshops in downtown Mannheim. Now, although U.B. Marvin seems to quote from the German translation: ... a large, triangular stone, weighing three hundred pounds ..., I found something totally different in the facsimile edition, and, in consequence, also in the pirated edition, the German text of which is rendered in fig. 3 of her review on page 41 and this rules out a typo on the part of Ursula B. Marvin. And now listen to this: ... ein großer stayn bey eim zentner schwer ... = a large stone weighing about o n e zentner = A typo in the Nuremberg Chronicle ? A doppelzentner (a double zentner - 2 x 50 kg) ? 2 stones as depicted in Brant's sheets and in the N. Chronicle ? A meteorite shower at Ensisheim ? As for two stones falling, U.B. Marvin writes: Perhaps the most straightforward explanation of the appearance of one stone in the sky and one on the ground would be that this is a dramatic, 15th century device for rendering a sense of motion. With regard to a meteorite shower at Ensisheim, the author quotes from Brant's 1492 broadsheet the following words: Little pieces scattered hither and yon were widely dispersed and seen as far as ... but concludes that Brant described an exploding fireball but not a meteorite shower. So why, for heaven's sake, does the Nuremberg Chronicle, only mention about one zentner, ... 50 kg, ... 100 pounds ??? Those who can access the Yahoo photo page of the German List, will find a scanned copy of this woodcut (text + picture), those who have the 1992 issue of Meteoritics will find a blackwhite version in Latin, and those list members who have neither of these choices, can contact me privately if interested in a JPEG of folio 257 of the Nuremberg Chronicle in color (and mirror-reversed with the incoming meteorite probably hitting Battenheim :-) Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: audio transmissions
I know that Jupiter is really 'noisy', broadcasting in the radio spectrum. I imagine the drawback would be trying to either find a planet with a sufficiently dense atmosphere to produce sound, yet quiet enough not to rip apart almost immediately any probe inserted into that atmosphere. Of the planets we have so far inspected, only Mars, and possibly some of the outer planets' moons, might pass the criteria, and I imagine any sounds on Mars would be severely attenuated by the thinness of its atmosphere. Have we dumped a probe down on, say, Europa yet with sound gathering capabilities? Listening intently, Tracy Latimer _ MSN 9 Dial-up Internet Access helps fight spam and pop-ups now 2 months FREE! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: audio transmissions
the atmosphereic pressure on mars is like 7 or 8 millibars - less than 1% of that of atmospheric pressure on earth. in theory sounds could be recorded, but they would be extreemly faint, and it would be likely impossible to hear any sounds generated even moderate distances away. i guess thas why audio transmissions were never considered a priority for mars. the hyugens probe will travel through a dense atmosphere, so sound transmissions will be more relevant as the probe should be able to hear noises made by things other than it's self.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: audio transmissions Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 05:04:46 + Doug, I have to laugh. I too built a parabolic reflector out of an old circular snow disc, sled, as a kid. I think I paid 75 cents for the plans. Kind of like X-Ray specs. I still don't understand why clear audio transmissions of environmental activity can't be achieved on Mars rovers for instance. It seems that radio technology would be simple to incorporate into the otherwise complex deal. Is my question really so naive? Regards, Bill -- Original message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Hola, Stan would seem completely right to me. I just have one question, though. I remember being fascinated with the idea of building a supersensitive microphone as a kid, the kind that could hear a bird at 1000 feet and a whisper in the next room, etc. I actually did, though my inexperienced use of ferric chloride produced something that best picked up breathing that sounded like scuba diving sounds. One claim -since I wasn't able to make a good parabolic antenna- and they were not really available at that time like now, that always had me dream about reaching out to the universe was the supposed ability of the microphone to pick up sounds from Jupiter. Is there anything to this, and if there is, what Jovian sound is actually picked up from earth's surface? Gracias Doug message5.txt __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes up soon.
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - July 5, 2004
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