Re: [meteorite-list] METEORITE GIVAWAY#14/ESQUEL

2004-08-28 Thread MexicoDoug
Where ya gonna go with all the food WE can eat  I don't know, I don't know,  I 
don't know where I'm gonna go, isn'tit a Pyrite's fate to justget drunk and moo? she 
say when the volcano blow, quicklava me now or lava me not, 

Moon soon come soon, not count worth, leave Earth, hope they'll be rum so gotta CM2 
but not gonna land in Mexico,:(
(great songs by the Pyrrhotheads)


Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:

Tomorrow I am going to see JIMMY BUFFET
with all you can eat and drink. 
 

Wow! A Jimmy Buffet buffet
kn




  From:David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To:RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Parkforest in paradise?  Be sure to keep it between the navigational 
beacons!
DF

RYAN PAWELSKI wrote:

Damn.. you beat me to it, Ken.  And I must say; that made me hungry Steve. How about 
a food givaway after you get back from the Buffet buffet tomorrow night? You can 
always ask your wife to use her purse to bring home the goods.

Ryan

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[meteorite-list] re: cinnabar in meteorites

2004-08-28 Thread chris aubeck
Hi Bernd,

That helps enormously!

In fact, I was thinking of several cases in which
stones said to have dropped from the sky bore veiny
letters on their surface, cinnabar-coloured scrawl
that people interpreted as messages from God. Having
seen narrow lines of cinnabar in rock, I wondered
whether a connection existed.

Judging by your reply, there is probably no direct
link, but I had to establish the negative before
moving on.

Thanks again,

Chris 



 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  I have found some historical accounts of
 meteorites
  with red veins, supposedly cinnabar. Can such
 things be?
 
 Hello Chris and List,
 
 I f you are talking about  Colston Bassett - the
 answer is definitely
 no because it is a pseudometeorite. The Catalogue
 says that :
 A boulder lying in the churchyard has been
 identified as cinnabar,
 probably from Peru. Its meteoritic origin appears to
 be 'purely a
 fabrication of local legend', W.A.S. Sarjeant, The
 Mercian Geologist,
 1971, 4, p. 41.
 
 If you are talking about Allende or Murchison, the
 answer may be yes
 because *minute* amounts of Hg (= mercury) have been
 identified in
 them: Allende = 30 ± 1.5 ng/g and Murchison = 294 ±
 15 ng/g. Well,
 just like iron + sulfur = FeS (troilite), Hg + S =
 HgS = cinnabar.
 
 References:
 
 LAURETTA D.S. et al. (2000) Inductively coupled
 plasma mass spectrometry
 measurements of bulk mercury abundances and isotopic
 ratios in Murchison
 - CM, and Allende - CV (MAPS 35-5, 2000, Suppl.,
 A095).
 
 RUBIN A.E. (1997) Mineralogy of meteorite groups
 (Meteoritics 32-2, 1997, 231-247).
 
 ULYANOV A.A. (1991) The meteorite minerals (Brown-
 Vernadsky Microsymp. Comp. Planet. 14th).
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Bernd
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Beer 'n' meteorites

2004-08-28 Thread j . divelbiss
I can see it now, NWA869-lite commercials about the special ingredients that pass 
through many hands. Picture the rocks going from a the sands of the desert, to a 
nomad, to a Moroccan broker, to Dean, to 600 plus list members, to the world, and now 
to become the feature ingredient in your favorite beer. 

I'd like it ice cold...maybe from a large regmaglypt in a chilled, but new, 80 kilo 
Campo.

Probably would need a straw. 

John





-- Original message from tracy latimer : -- 

 Does anyone out there brew their own beer? I suspect if someone were to 
 create a 'meteoritenbier', by adding a few flakes of meteorite to the mash, 
 it would quickly become the brew of choice at Tucson. I'd opt for a eucrite 
 or howardite myself, or a few milligrams of Martian or Lunar if I were 
 feeling flush; I suspect an iron or H might have a 'rusty' flavor :-) 
 Rather than eating crumbs of Zagami, make them potable! 
 
 Something else to do with those unclasified NWAs... 
 Tracy Latimer 
 
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2004-08-28 Thread Comcast Mail
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[meteorite-list] Off topic lap top offer

2004-08-28 Thread Comcast Mail
Hello list,

I thought I would offer my Laptop computer ( actually my brothers )to the
list instead of doing the ebay thing.
Its a Sony Vaio notebook computer model # PCG-974L
It has Windows XP and about 8 gb of free space on the harddrive. It actually
has two hardrives one 5gb and the other 8gb.
Other than that, it has some usual programs that came with the computer when
purchased  I m sure one could do a search to find out more specs.
Its in excellent condition thats why I'm offering it to the list , hopefully
I can help out someone whos looking for a laptop. If I didnt have 3 comps in
the household already, I'd definitely keep it.
So if anyones offended by my offer please remember Im trying to help someone
out on the list . otherwise it would take me 2 minutes to list
it on ebay.
I'm asking $400 obo.

Here's a pic:
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/detail?.dir=/8538.dnm=9c0c.jp
g

Thanks
Bob Evans

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[meteorite-list] Ignition Threshold For Impact-Generated Fires

2004-08-28 Thread Ron Baalke


Southwest Research Institute (SwRI)
PO Drawer 28510
San Antonio, TX 78228-0510

For more information contact:

Deb Schmid, Communications Department
(210) 522-2254

August 26, 2004

Ignition threshold for impact-generated fires

San Antonio -- Scientists conclude that, 65 million years ago, a 
10-kilometer-wide asteroid or comet slammed into what is now the Yucatan 
peninsula, excavating the Chicxulub impact crater and setting into motion a 
chain of catastrophic events thought to precipitate the extinction of the 
dinosaurs and 75 percent of animal and plant life that existed in the late 
Cretaceous period.

The impact of an asteroid or comet several kilometers across heaps 
environmental insult after insult on the world, said Dr. Daniel Durda, a u
senior research scientist at Southwest Research Institute® (SwRI®). 
One aspect of the devastation wrought by large impacts is the potential 
for global wildfires ignited by material ejected from the crater reentering 
the atmosphere in the hours after the impact.

Large impacts can blast thousands of cubic kilometers of vaporized impactor and 
target sediments into the atmosphere and above, expanding into space and 
enveloping the entire planet. These high-energy, vapor-rich materials reenter 
the atmosphere and heat up air temperatures to the point that vegetation on the 
ground below can spontaneously burst into flame.

In 2002, we investigated the Chicxulub impact event to examine the extent and 
distribution of fires it caused, said Durda. This cosmic collision carved out 
a crater some 40 kilometers (25 miles) deep and 180 kilometers (112 miles) 
across at the boundary between two geologic periods, the Cretaceous, when the 
dinosaurs ruled the planet, and the Tertiary, when mammals took supremacy.

We noted that fires appeared to be global, covering multiple continents, but 
did not cover the entire Earth, Durda continued. That suggested to us that 
the Chicxulub impact was probably near the threshold size event necessary for 
igniting global fires, and prompted us to ask 'What scale of impact is 
necessary for igniting widespread fires?'

In a new study, Durda and Dr. David Kring, an associate professor at the 
University of Arizona Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, published a theory for 
the ignition threshold for impact-generated fires in the August 20, 2004, 
issue of the Journal of Geophysical Research. Their research indicates that 
impacts resulting in craters at least 85 kilometers wide can produce 
continental-scale fires, while impact craters more than 135 kilometers wide 
are needed to cause global-scale fires.

To calculate the threshold size impact required for global ignition of various 
types of vegetation, Durda and Kring used two separate, but linked, numerical 
codes to calculate the global distribution of debris reentering the atmosphere 
and the kinetic energy deposited in the atmosphere by the material. The 
distribution of fires depends on projectile trajectories, the position of the 
impact relative to the geographic distribution of forested continents and the 
mass of crater and projectile debris ejected into the atmosphere.

They also examined the threshold temperatures and durations required to 
spontaneously ignite green wood, to ignite wood in the presence of an ignition 
source (such as lightning, which would be prevalent in the dust-laden energetic 
skies following an impact event) and to ignite rotting wood, leaves and other 
common forest litter.

The Chicxulub impact event may have been the only known impact event to have 
caused wildfires around the globe, Kring noted. The Manicouagan (Canada) and 
Popigai (Russia) impact events, however, may have caused continental-scale 
fires. The Manicouagan impact occurred in the late Triassic, and the Popigai 
impact event occurred in the late Eocene, but neither has been firmly linked 
yet to the mass extinction events that occurred at those times.

Kring is currently at the International Geological Congress in Florence, Italy, 
giving a keynote address on the Chicxulub impact event and its relationship to 
the mass extinctions at the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary period. Durda is 
available for comment at the SwRI offices in Boulder, Colo.

EDITORS: High-resolution images for download are available at
  http://www.swri.org/press/impactfires.htm


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Re: [meteorite-list] Ignition Threshold For Impact-Generated Fires

2004-08-28 Thread David Freeman
Dear All;
Please take a moment to consult a map of the cretaceous Earth and note 
the position of the continents, and of how much of the continents were 
under water.  

This really offers some insight into what is proposed.
Dave F.
Ron Baalke wrote:
Southwest Research Institute (SwRI)
PO Drawer 28510
San Antonio, TX 78228-0510
For more information contact:
Deb Schmid, Communications Department
(210) 522-2254
August 26, 2004
Ignition threshold for impact-generated fires
San Antonio -- Scientists conclude that, 65 million years ago, a 
10-kilometer-wide asteroid or comet slammed into what is now the Yucatan 
peninsula, excavating the Chicxulub impact crater and setting into motion a 
chain of catastrophic events thought to precipitate the extinction of the 
dinosaurs and 75 percent of animal and plant life that existed in the late 
Cretaceous period.

The impact of an asteroid or comet several kilometers across heaps 
environmental insult after insult on the world, said Dr. Daniel Durda, a u
senior research scientist at Southwest Research Institute® (SwRI®). 
One aspect of the devastation wrought by large impacts is the potential 
for global wildfires ignited by material ejected from the crater reentering 
the atmosphere in the hours after the impact.

Large impacts can blast thousands of cubic kilometers of vaporized impactor and 
target sediments into the atmosphere and above, expanding into space and 
enveloping the entire planet. These high-energy, vapor-rich materials reenter 
the atmosphere and heat up air temperatures to the point that vegetation on the 
ground below can spontaneously burst into flame.

In 2002, we investigated the Chicxulub impact event to examine the extent and 
distribution of fires it caused, said Durda. This cosmic collision carved out 
a crater some 40 kilometers (25 miles) deep and 180 kilometers (112 miles) 
across at the boundary between two geologic periods, the Cretaceous, when the 
dinosaurs ruled the planet, and the Tertiary, when mammals took supremacy.

We noted that fires appeared to be global, covering multiple continents, but 
did not cover the entire Earth, Durda continued. That suggested to us that 
the Chicxulub impact was probably near the threshold size event necessary for 
igniting global fires, and prompted us to ask 'What scale of impact is 
necessary for igniting widespread fires?'

In a new study, Durda and Dr. David Kring, an associate professor at the 
University of Arizona Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, published a theory for 
the ignition threshold for impact-generated fires in the August 20, 2004, 
issue of the Journal of Geophysical Research. Their research indicates that 
impacts resulting in craters at least 85 kilometers wide can produce 
continental-scale fires, while impact craters more than 135 kilometers wide 
are needed to cause global-scale fires.

To calculate the threshold size impact required for global ignition of various 
types of vegetation, Durda and Kring used two separate, but linked, numerical 
codes to calculate the global distribution of debris reentering the atmosphere 
and the kinetic energy deposited in the atmosphere by the material. The 
distribution of fires depends on projectile trajectories, the position of the 
impact relative to the geographic distribution of forested continents and the 
mass of crater and projectile debris ejected into the atmosphere.

They also examined the threshold temperatures and durations required to 
spontaneously ignite green wood, to ignite wood in the presence of an ignition 
source (such as lightning, which would be prevalent in the dust-laden energetic 
skies following an impact event) and to ignite rotting wood, leaves and other 
common forest litter.

The Chicxulub impact event may have been the only known impact event to have 
caused wildfires around the globe, Kring noted. The Manicouagan (Canada) and 
Popigai (Russia) impact events, however, may have caused continental-scale 
fires. The Manicouagan impact occurred in the late Triassic, and the Popigai 
impact event occurred in the late Eocene, but neither has been firmly linked 
yet to the mass extinction events that occurred at those times.

Kring is currently at the International Geological Congress in Florence, Italy, 
giving a keynote address on the Chicxulub impact event and its relationship to 
the mass extinctions at the Cretaceous-Tertiary boundary period. Durda is 
available for comment at the SwRI offices in Boulder, Colo.

EDITORS: High-resolution images for download are available at
 http://www.swri.org/press/impactfires.htm
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