[meteorite-list] Martian, Amgala auctions ending
Hello, I have several Martian NWA 1110 , Amgala ( one oriented 100% Fusion Crusted still at $1.00 ) ending tonight on ebay. Those who do win will be very pleased, the Amgala is an awesome meteorite with incredibly fresh crust and the NWA 1110 are comparatively large specimens. Unfortunately the pictures dont show the true beauty of these specimens. I'll have to upgrade my Digital camera soon. Use this link and click on sellers other items : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268561031 Or search seller name maccers531 For those of you who have already bid , Thank you I appreciate it ! Have a great day ! Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER
Hello list.I have a 19.2 slice DOUBLE CUT of NWA 1553 EUCRITE for trade.Let me know what you have to offer.This easily goes for $19 to $22 a gram.It has alot of fusion crust on the back side.I have pictures if you want to see them.Let me know. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER
Steve, you have been using the term double cut several times now. Could you explain what it means? Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. September 2004 16:13 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER Hello list.I have a 19.2 slice DOUBLE CUT of NWA 1553 EUCRITE for trade.Let me know what you have to offer.This easily goes for $19 to $22 a gram.It has alot of fusion crust on the back side.I have pictures if you want to see them.Let me know. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Goodies to grab !
Hello to the List, If you're searching for meteorite related products, I'm starting along with the Company CafePress.com a line of meteorite goodies on the subject of The Meteorite Hunter. The link to this web shop is : http://www.cafepress.com/meteorcenter You'll find t-shirts, sweatshirts, caps, mousepad, magnet, wallet, mugs, notebook. That's a good way to show your interest in meteorites on the Field, at the mineral Shows, at home or at work ! Regards, Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Newly verified impact sites
Dear List members: In a paper presented by James Whitehead, Univ. of New Brunswick, at the IEJSAP `03 Symposium held at Yamaguchi Univ., Japan six newly recognized impact structures were announced: Crawford Australia S34degrees43` E139degrees2` 8.5km diameter 35 Ma Flaxman, Australia S34degrees37` E139degrees4` 10km dia. 35Ma Foelsche, Australia S16degrees40` E136degrees47` 6km 545Ma Paasselka, Finland N62degrees2` E29degrees5` 10km 1800Ma Saarijarvi, Finland N65degrees17` E28degrees23` 1.5km 600Ma Yarrabubba, Australia S27degrees10` E119degrees50` 30km approx. 2000Ma For more information please see their webpage: http:www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Planetary Data...Tokyo __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Bernhard, and Steve. I think Steve is using the term double cut to refer to what we have been calling a quarter cut. Essentially an end cut that has been cut in half in a plane perpendicular to the original cut face resulting in two cut faces intersecting at a 90 degree angle. Cheers -John Bernhard Rems wrote: Steve, you have been using the term double cut several times now. Could you explain what it means? Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. September 2004 16:13 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER Hello list.I have a 19.2 slice DOUBLE CUT of NWA 1553 EUCRITE for trade.Let me know what you have to offer.This easily goes for $19 to $22 a gram.It has alot of fusion crust on the back side.I have pictures if you want to see them.Let me know. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 03-10-1931: 70 Ton Meteorite Found (?)
Paper: Daily Gleaner City: Kingston, Surrey, Jamaica Date: Tuesday, March 10, 1931 Page: 18 70-TON METEORITE OF NICKLE IRON FOUND SUPER-HARD METALLIC MASS FOUND IN TANGANYIKA Mr. W. H. Nott, a Johannesburg land surveyor, states that he has discovered one of the largest meteorites ever found in Africa. The meteorite is a solid mass of nickel-iron nearly 14ft. long and about 4ft. in diameter. It lies in open country approximately halfway between Lakes Tanganyika and Nyasa, and is embedded in fairly hard earth for about 3ft. Keeping the discovery secret, Mr. Nott went to the nearest village, Mbeya, one of the new stations for Imperial Airways. Here he secured a prospecting license and returned to the meteorite. He prepared a set of pegs and beacons, strictly according to mining laws of Tanganyika, and stakes off an area of 40 acres as a base-metal claim, with the meteorite in the exact centre. Trenches and other elementary workings were made, and the unique strike was legally looked upon as an outcrop of iron. The natives of the district regarded the meteorite as an evil stone, because they had repeatedly tried to make assegais knives from it, but had found it impossible to cut. To secure a sample of the meteorite Mr. Nott obtained a particularly good hacksaw and set his boys to work sawing off a tiny piece. Working relays, they took four hours to remove a piece hardly two inches across. Even this required the use of a sledge hammer and cutting from two sides. Mr. Nott first estimated the weight of the meteorite as about 70 tons but other calculations make it 84 tons. Its constitution will be analyzed by the metallurgical department of the Wiwatersrand University. Nickel, iron and chromium are likely to be the principal ingredients - The Morning Post __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 04-22-1976 Jilin Meteorite Article
Paper: Valley Morning Star City: Harlingen, Texas Date: Thursday, April 22, 1976 Page: A6 Largest Meteor Shower Hits Northeast China HONG KONG (UPI) - More than 100 meteorites, including one that weighed a record 1.9 tons, fell over 300 square miles of northeast China last month in one of the biggest meteorite showers in history, the New China News Agency said Wednesday. The official news agency said although the area embraced six communes with a combined population of more than 100,000, the shower caused no loss of life or serious damage. The shower occurred on the after of March 8 when a large meteor - or shooting star - entered the earth's atmosphere moving at about 7.5 miles per second. It began to burn as a result of the intense friction and was observed as a large fireball over Kirin City in northeastern Kirin Province. NCNA said the meteor exploded in the sky over the Chinchu People's Commune on the outskirts of Kirin City and scattered radially in all directions. Judging by the meteorites already recovered, the shower covered an area of more than 500 square kilometers (310 square miles), the report said. NCNA said a survey team dispatched to the site by the Chinese Academy of Sciences collected hundreds of meteorites raining in size from one pound to 3,894 pounds, the largest ever discovered. The report said the last of the meteorites stabbed through nearly two years of frozen soil, sank seven yards into the ground and formed a crater three yards deep and more than two yards in diameter. Only two previous meteorite showers have been discovered and studied in China in the past 26 years, NCNA said. The first, which occurred during the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644), was discovered in 1956 in China's southeast Kwangsi Province. In 1972, a shower of meteorites fell in Kirin Province. (end) Mark Note: This article refers to the Jilin meteorite. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 11-07-1973 Canon City Meteorite Article
Paper: Sheboygan Press City: Sheboygan, Wisconsin Date: Tuesday, November 6, 1973 Page: 4 Through Roof CANON CITY, Colo. (AP) - A meteorite, nearly six inches long and four inches wide, fell through the roof of Jack Steven' garage. Stevens thought it was just a rock and was about to throw it out when sheriff's officers persuaded him to call experts. Scientists from the American Meteorite Laboratory in Denver confirmed that the rock was a meteorite. Part of the meteorite will be sent to the Smithsonian Institution in Washington and other pieces will be given to the United States Geological Survey. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 10-22-1976 Meteorite Finds Puzzle Scientists (Antarctica)
Paper: Times Herald Record City: Middletown, New York Date: Friday, October 22, 1976 Page: 29 Meteorite find puzzles scientists New York Times News Service BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Within a radius of a few miles in Antarctica, Japanese scientists have found, spread across the ice, more than 1,000 meteorites of diverse types. The discovery is believed to be without precedent, and the Japanese say no ready explanation is known. In the past, there have been meteorite falls that showed the landscape with fragments, but the Antarctic discovery consists of numerous kinds of meteorites that presumably fell successively over a prolonged period. It is estimated that the entire earth receives about one meteorite a day. The Japanese find was described in a interview here Wednesday by Dr. Masako Shima, whose husband collected some of the specimens. Dr. Shima also discussed the finds at the annual meeting of the Meteoritical Society being held here at Lehigh University. The society is an international association of specialists in meteorites and related subjects. The meteorites found on three successive Japanese expeditions lie near Yamato Mountains, inland from the Japanese Showa Base. The first nine specimens were found in 1969. Dr. Shima said she has studied four of them, and that all were of different types. On an expedition in 1974, a rich field was discovered, with 683 specimens, ranging in size up to 12 pounds. Then last year, another 330 were found. The discoveries of all three expeditions lay within two areas close to one another and each 10 miles on a side. According to Dr. Shima, who is with the Max Planck Institute for Chemistry West Germany, only one of the specimens is an iron meteorite. The rest are stones, or of other types such as carbonaceous chondrites. Dr. Edward Olsen, meteorite specialist at the field Museum of Natural History in Chicago, plans to visit Antarctica this December, when the summer begins in the southern hemisphere, hoping to find specimens on the side of the continent opposite the Japanese base. Antarctica is ideal for such collections, he pointed out in an interview here, because the black specimens stand out so clearly against a white background. He suspects past estimates as to the relative abundances of various kinds of meteorites have been grossly biases because the irons and other clearly foreign types stand out among terrestrial rocks. That that look like ordinary rocks tend to be overlooked. For this reason, as pointed out Wednesday morning by Glenn I. Huss of the American Meteorite Laboratory in Denver, Colo., a situation like that in the Yamato Mountains, where only objects that have fallen from the sky are found, offers a special opportunity to identify new types of meteorites. He noted that even where falls have been recorded by camera networks, the objects often have not been found. The Yamato collection also offers a special opportunity to determine the true distribution of types. This is turn would bear directly on arguments as to where meteorites come from - to what extent from shattered asteroids, from material that condensed as the solar system was forming or even predates the formation of that system. One explanation of the Yamato collection, Olsen believes, may e that, for thousands of millions of years, ice from the Antarctic interior has been flowing toward the mountains until blocked by them. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 03-10-1931: 70 Ton Meteorite Found (?)
Mr. W.H. Nott, a Johannesburg land surveyor, states that he has discovered one of the largest meteorites ever found in Africa. The meteorite is a solid mass of nickel-iron nearly 14ft. long and about 4ft. in diameter. Hello Mark, Anne, and List, This is the famous, ungrouped, anomalous Mbosi iron with silicate inclusions. According to E.J. Olsen et al., 1996, the Mbosi iron meteorite contains mm- size silicate inclusions. Mbosi is an ungrouped iron meteorite with a Ge/Ga ratio 10, which is an anomalous property shared with the five-member IIF iron group, the Eagle Station pallasites and four other ungrouped irons. Neither the IIF group nor the four other ungrouped irons are known to have silicate inclusions. Another interesting conclusion by these authors is that the precursor material for silicates in Mbosi, Bocaiuva and the Eagle Station pallasites may come from the C3 chondrites. Reference: E.J. OLSEN et al. (1996) Mbosi - An anomalous iron with unique silicate inclusions (Meteoritics 31-5, 1996, 633-639). Acknowledgments: Special thanks to Mark for his continuing efforts to share such raisins with the List. See also BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Vol. 2, pp. 814-816 for black and white photos of this beautiful 16-ton mass. Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] trade offer/update
Hello again list.I have upgraded the trade of offer.Including the 19.2 gram piece of NWA 1553 EUCRITE, I have added,DHOFAR 725 main mass.It is a 6.8 gram half-stone with specimen card and riker.TKW is only 14 grams,so it is a small tkw.These 2 equal a $500 value.Let me know what you have.I am looking for anything I do not have. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Bernhard, a picture is worth a thousand words. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268374511 JD -- Original message from Bernhard Rems : -- Steve, you have been using the term double cut several times now. Could you explain what it means? Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. September 2004 16:13 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER Hello list.I have a 19.2 slice DOUBLE CUT of NWA 1553 EUCRITE for trade.Let me know what you have to offer.This easily goes for $19 to $22 a gram.It has alot of fusion crust on the back side.I have pictures if you want to see them.Let me know. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: 15% off any BUY IT NOW Auction or Store Items. Today Only!
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: 15% off any BUY IT NOW Auction or Store Items. Today Only! Hello, I am offering 15% off any of my BUY IT NOW Items. This applies to Auctions or Store Items. Go to link below. http://www.stores.ebay.com/voyagebotanicanaturalhistory After you buy it now... Go to Paypal and do the math (-15%) and do the transaction manually... Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] most of you know the procedure. Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues
stan . wrote: is there really any need for this? Yes, actually, this amounts to surrogate strewn field data to be studied at a future time when it is more technically practical. let's be realistic here for a moment. sure an nwa number is assigned to specific fragments you reported - but if the same EXTRAORDINARILY rare material is comming out of the same location, being purchased from the same nomads (either by you, Habibi, or the French) - then assigning each parcel that a dealer gets a new nwa number seems nothing more than down right silly. One might suspect that the material is related however it is not as valuable scientifically until the research is done that validates the pairing. Most everyone suspected that DAG 289 and 276 (?) were paired Martians but it took nearly 3 years for someone to do the research. This did allow a manipulation of the collector's market, I am sure this is a disappointment for the collector who wants to collect every numbered meteorite as opposed to every lithology. If you are suggesting speculation in that material read on. all this serves to do is keep TKW's down via artifical means... The only sector obsessed with TKW are collectors. TKW was established apparently to order the size of falls /finds statistically and to understand how much material was available for research. I think, rightly so, the assignment of separate numbers serves science and only adjunctly serves egos..( you know the main mass bragging rights thingy. Main mass ownership becomes an artificial factor out of TKW.) The function of the NomCom isn't so far as I know at the beckon of the dealers and collectors. So we look to the latter party's interest in the functioning of the NomCom decisions. I believe as in any commodity there is an premium on rarity and this affects the market. This often is a premium set on a trap door. With a few exceptions, investment in meteorites is largely a shell game. The collector is the last to find out. Classic falls-- long thought bought out, command high prices when found at auction--for a while anyway. For discussion purposes, The collector is the last to find that a major museum traded off a single block of North Beach County which equalled 3 times the amount of material in private hands. You already bough it last week and paid as if it were the last available specimen. You go back to the store and find yet another larger piece-- even cheaper and you buy it and another and finally see other dealers selling it at a third of your purchase price. Then you find out the Bo Dealer traded a nice new NWA G3/6 plegiocryst plasmamelt sliver to The University of Azulonia for 1/3 of their North Beach County. Yeah in this case I'd like to know the TKW and WHO has it. We have found time and again that museums will trade off old classics in exchange for new material in a heart beat. Their rationale likely has nothing to do with the meteorite market for collectors. snip if you bought a big allende from the field tomorrow are you going to send it in as a possibly paired, new find and ask it to be assigned the name allende(x)? Ummm mixing apples and oranges. Allende was established as a fall in an area not covered by the rules for area of meteorite concentrations. And yes there are provisions for naming a find of an unrelated meteorite in an existing strewn field or political district. I am happy with the Nom-Com's actions with one provision. I favor for lithology and statistical purposes a NWA P category for Paired. The Paired number would catalog all the subsequent finds--which may run on for tens or even hundreds of years. Ergo NWAP0021 might include NWA (2031), NWA XX(1999) and NWA 00X(2006) with associated recovery age, cosmic age and weathering grade. A study of pairings could include or exclude reported collection data and suggest a subsequent axis of search. It migh allow a statistical treatment to reveal that the earth is going through a 22,000 year cycle of bombardment etc. So I agree under the new rules Anything other than NWA1110 tain't called NWA1110 properly. However, NWA 897 or whatever the monster was is ALL NWA 897* or is it?. Elton * Numbers changed to protect the ignoirant __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia wasNWA 1110 issues
Rob Wesel wrote: I see many on eBay as Franconia area meteorite the new NWA (Northwest Arizona). Bottom line, Adam is right but the model is impossible. Has anyone certified Franconia to be an area of meteorite coincentration and to fall under the new provisions? And who's political boundaries preclude coming under the old rules e.g Franconia (A), (B), (C) etc.? Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER
Dear John, Bernhard; Seems (from the link and subsequent picture that) the term double cut means it could be sliced on four surfaces...? New to me! Now for the explanation of the new term remaining chopped up piece... DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bernhard, a picture is worth a thousand words. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268374511 JD -- Original message from Bernhard Rems : -- Steve, you have been using the term double cut several times now. Could you explain what it means? Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. September 2004 16:13 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] TRADE OFFER Hello list.I have a 19.2 slice DOUBLE CUT of NWA 1553 EUCRITE for trade.Let me know what you have to offer.This easily goes for $19 to $22 a gram.It has alot of fusion crust on the back side.I have pictures if you want to see them.Let me know. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Shop for Back-to-School deals on Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com/backtoschool __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] September 11, 2001
Yesterday, on September 11, 2004, there was a memorial service here in Tempe, Arizona for the victims of the terrorist attacks and the Americansoldiers who have died in Afghanistan and Iraq. The memorial was held at Tempe Town Lakes and included 4,000 standard size flags set up in long rows with each flag representing a fallen American. Each flag had a yellow bow attached to the pole and for those who had died in military service in Afghanistan and Iraq there was a tag hanging on one of the tails of the bow that identified the fallen soldier and also listed the date and place where he had died. It was very sobering to watch hundreds of people quietly moving among the rows after rows of flags lifting the tails of the bows to read the name and brief story written on the tags. The second name tag I looked at was dated September 5, 2004. It made me heart sink to read about this young solder from a little town in the Midwest I never heard of - an American soldier that made the ultimate sacrifice just six days ago. Like Bernd has suggested, take time to remember those who have died and pay them tribute. Best, John Gwilliam At 07:03 AM 9/11/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rhett Bourland's post announcing the unbelievable, the incredible, the incomprehensive ... For those of you who haven't heard yet America has been attacked. This makes the Oklahoma bombing look like child's play. A plane has hit the Pentagon and one plane has hit each of the World Trade Center towers. One of the towers has collapsed. According to some news reports up to three of our commercial planes have been hijacked as well. Rhett Bourland So, folks, before you get back to your daily chores and petty quarrels here on this List or elsewhere, take a moment's time and remember! See also the September 2001 List Archives for a moment of remembrance when we ALL felt like ONE amid this abominable crime against humankind. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: September 11, 2001 [OT]
Geoff, Bernd, Mark and others, The messages and pictures were very moving indeed. I still have a hard time believing people are that sick, and so committed to hurting the innocent. While these fanatics may not agree with the acts of governments, they do not have the God given right to kill blindly in response. I hope they pay dearly in their after life, if not before. John -- Original message from Notkin : -- Bernd posted: So, folks, before you get back to your daily chores and petty quarrels here on this List or elsewhere, take a moment's time and remember! Dear Bernd, Fellow List Members and Friends: Thank you for your post, Bernd, which was thoughtful and moving as usual. Those of you who were subscribers to the Meteorite List in 2001 will perhaps recall that I was unpleasantly close to Ground Zero three years ago today, and had the misfortune of witnessing the Towers' collapse in person, from the west bank of the Hudson River. I remember several of our friends and colleagues posting to the List asking if Darryl Pitt, Geoff Cintron, and myself were okay. Thank you for that. Macovich Collection curator Darryl Pitt and I both worked (separately) with volunteers during the days that followed. Darryl put in many nights working at Ground Zero, in some cases with an armed escort. I took over 1,200 photos -- mostly of the rescue effort -- many of which are on my website. My photo gallery received over 35,000 visits in the weeks that followed September 11. I find it difficult to look at the pictures now, but perhaps they will be of interest to some. http://www.notkin.net/disaster.htm My photos have been widely published since, and have also appeared in three documentary films about September 11. I gave my photos free of charge to fellow artists and publishers who wished to use them, but I did bill Reader's Digest a substantial fee, as they could afford it : ) When I moved permanently to Tucson earlier this year my little calico cat, Bonnie, drove the 2,900 miles with me. She is a very special cat, as she is a World Trade Center orphan. I adopted her shortly after the attack in which her original owner died. She has adjusted well and is a constant companion, so something positive did come out that day for me. Finally, here are two photos of the blue light memorial from September, 2002. These images have never been published, and have not been shown on my website until today: http://www.notkin.net/memorial.htm On this day, especially, Americans should remember the friendship and support we have received from our friends overseas. As a nation, we cannot go it alone. I continue to believe that forums such as the Meteorite List are an important asset to international understanding and friendship and can, perhaps, even repair some of the damage caused by aggressive governments. Respectfully, Geoffrey Notkin Tucson, Arizona __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
Dear List, Enough is really enough, Bob Evans not listening to what was posted by people in know is now using the NWA 1877 designation, the number reserved for an Olivine Diogenite. We paid for the study of this material, reserved a NWA number for it and made it official by submitting it to the NomCom for a vote. A regular Diogenite or even terrestrial stones could easily be confused so be careful about purchasing an Olivine Diogenite from anybody who did not have his material studied in a lab, approved by the NomCom and issued its very own number. Off List, does anybody have Bob Evans address so that it will save us time in serving the legal documents we had prepared, this has gone far enough. Wishing everybody who adheres to good standards and plays by the rules well, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad. Martian , PF , Rare Diogenite NWA 1877
Hello, For those interested I have Nwa 1877 a rare Olivine Diogenite, NWA 1110 ( yes again ) and Park Forest up for sale on ebay. Have a look there are some nice sized specimens up for auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2269795593ssPageNam e=STRK:MESE:IT Or seller name : maccers531 Thank You, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
Adam, Ive had just about enough of you. Quit being a little cry baby and get a friggin hobby. Jeff Grossman already told you meteorite names ARE NOT PROPRIETARY Do you know what that means Adam? YOU DO NOT OWN THE NAME , ADAM !! I will forward the list the email from Jeff Grossman in a moment. Adam Sell your meteorites and leave me the hell alone ! Everybody have a good week, and sorry about these unmitigated outbursts from Adam. Thank You Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:27 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 Dear List, Enough is really enough, Bob Evans not listening to what was posted by people in know is now using the NWA 1877 designation, the number reserved for an Olivine Diogenite. We paid for the study of this material, reserved a NWA number for it and made it official by submitting it to the NomCom for a vote. A regular Diogenite or even terrestrial stones could easily be confused so be careful about purchasing an Olivine Diogenite from anybody who did not have his material studied in a lab, approved by the NomCom and issued its very own number. Off List, does anybody have Bob Evans address so that it will save us time in serving the legal documents we had prepared, this has gone far enough. Wishing everybody who adheres to good standards and plays by the rules well, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Message from Jeff Grossman regarding NWA 1110
- Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 7:35 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos [off-list] I'm not sure who is making these statements or if they refer to me, but: 1) No meteorite name is EVER proprietary. If the NomCom voted to formally pair something with NWA 1110, then the name would apply to the new piece as well. 2) I am not the president of the MetSoc, I am the Nomenclature Committee chair. 3) I never said that anything was fraud. jeff At 07:03 PM 9/10/2004, Comcast Mail wrote: Im sorry you feel that way Adam Sincerely, Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Bob, I see you are still using the proprietary NWA 1110 designation even after the President of the Meteoritical Society stated publicly to do so is fraudulent. Expect legal action soon, - Original Message - From: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 110 Photos Well, Sorry , I didn't realize trying to sell a few Martian meteorites would stir up so much controversy. My apologies to everyone. For those interested you can see better pics of my NWA 1110 at the following link: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/spacerox2001/album?.dir=/adcf.src=ph As far as Adam goes , I know this is all about money to him. Im sure he wanted to be the sole possessor of NWA 1110 , Sorry Adam. my stuff is the same as yours. Care to share some pics? As for those interested, Im selling these on ebay You can search my Seller name maccers531 to find the auctions They end Sunday and Im sure some collectors will read between Hupes emails and get one of these rare specimens for their collection. Thanks, Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman Chair, Meteorite Nomenclature Committee (Meteoritical Society) US Geological Survey 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA Phone: (703) 648-6184 fax: (703) 648-6383 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Whats next ? Adam I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own the word meteorite ,too? BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Now boys, isn't this become a bit unsavory? Bob, can't come up with any original description huh? I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List? Makes me miss Michael Casper!! RR The Captain's our sailin' the Caribbean! Any IMCA comments? ;-) Dave F. Comcast Mail wrote: Whats next ? Adam I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own the word meteorite ,too? BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Dave, Do you know how long before the ebay desciptions police come to get me? Im sorry but youve got to look at Adams emails and laugh. Besides its Sunday night and theres nothing on TV more entertaining than this. Goodnight all Bob E. - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Now boys, isn't this become a bit unsavory? Bob, can't come up with any original description huh? I always buy from sellers in turmoil, how about the rest of the List? Makes me miss Michael Casper!! RR The Captain's our sailin' the Caribbean! Any IMCA comments? ;-) Dave F. Comcast Mail wrote: Whats next ? Adam I cant use the word meteorite in my auction headers, because you own the word meteorite ,too? BE - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Just FYI - your ebay description for nwa 1877 is inaccurate. nwa 1459 is not the only other olivine diogenite avalible for sale to the public - there is also nwa 2115 - with a tkw of about 2x of the other two combined... From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:59:07 -0700 Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
Almost forgot, the french also have an olivine diogenite now, around 200g iirc... From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:27:47 -0700 Dear List, Enough is really enough, Bob Evans not listening to what was posted by people in know is now using the NWA 1877 designation, the number reserved for an Olivine Diogenite. We paid for the study of this material, reserved a NWA number for it and made it official by submitting it to the NomCom for a vote. A regular Diogenite or even terrestrial stones could easily be confused so be careful about purchasing an Olivine Diogenite from anybody who did not have his material studied in a lab, approved by the NomCom and issued its very own number. Off List, does anybody have Bob Evans address so that it will save us time in serving the legal documents we had prepared, this has gone far enough. Wishing everybody who adheres to good standards and plays by the rules well, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
With all due respect Adam, You could take this as a compliment! Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions
Stan, For your information NWA 2115 has not been published yet in the Meteoritical Bulletin. There is no doubt it will become official as all of the proper steps have been taken to make it so. It is up to scientists to prove a pairing between the two but I do not doubt a pairing relationship between 1877 and 2115. I have no problem with this because proper steps were taken. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 9:12 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Just FYI - your ebay description for nwa 1877 is inaccurate. nwa 1459 is not the only other olivine diogenite avalible for sale to the public - there is also nwa 2115 - with a tkw of about 2x of the other two combined... From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen ebay Descriptions Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:59:07 -0700 Dear List, To show you what kind of person Bob Evans really is here is an example you can check out for yourself. Bob took it upon himself not only to use NWA numbers we reserved and paid for the study of, he is actually copying our descriptions, word-for-word. Bob, these descriptions are the property of Meteoritelab, come up with your own DESCRIPTIONS! Our Description and ebay link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268563957 NWA 1877, 850mg fragment of the second Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. A great deal of time was spent preparing this material. We used a penetrant stabilizer before polishing even begun to prevent the large crystals from being plucked during polishing. This is important because the crystals have cleavages that are easily fractured during preparation. No less than 10 polishing steps on a diamond lap was needed to take these specimens to a 3,500 grit polish, something you do not see everyday. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. Even though this is number two, it still represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! Bobs stolen description and link to auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2269795593 This is a LARGE 1.2 Gram Fragment of NWA 1877. This is the second rare Olivine Diogenite in private hands, found 2003 in Northwest Africa. A weight of only 312 grams is recorded for this find. NWA 1459 is the only other Olivine Diogenite available to the public and weighed a mere 49 grams. After cutting losses and type specimen deposits there is less than 220 grams of this material left in private hands including NWA 1459. This material is believed to represent the deepest sample, yet recovered, from the asteroid Vesta. This material is rarer than a Brachinite, a Chassignite or even a Lodranite. NWA 1877 represents the rarest of all classifications in private hands, there is nothing rarer! This gorgeous meteorite is a must have for any serious or new meteorite collector ! Not only is using NWA numbers that do not match his pieces he has stolen several other descriptions and ideas from us, he is a complete fraud. Check out his other auctions and compare. All the best, Adam Hupe __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
if is for this other pieces of olivine digenite its available from the moroccan people, but not for this is right copy the complete text of a auction and put in another auction, or if you put and write (C) Hupe From: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 04:14:23 + Almost forgot, the french also have an olivine diogenite now, around 200g iirc... From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:27:47 -0700 Dear List, Enough is really enough, Bob Evans not listening to what was posted by people in know is now using the NWA 1877 designation, the number reserved for an Olivine Diogenite. We paid for the study of this material, reserved a NWA number for it and made it official by submitting it to the NomCom for a vote. A regular Diogenite or even terrestrial stones could easily be confused so be careful about purchasing an Olivine Diogenite from anybody who did not have his material studied in a lab, approved by the NomCom and issued its very own number. Off List, does anybody have Bob Evans address so that it will save us time in serving the legal documents we had prepared, this has gone far enough. Wishing everybody who adheres to good standards and plays by the rules well, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877
Wow, advice from the guy who fakes new Italian meteorite falls. I think we can ignore just about anything you say Matteo. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Mauro Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 10:10 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 if is for this other pieces of olivine digenite its available from the moroccan people, but not for this is right copy the complete text of a auction and put in another auction, or if you put and write (C) Hupe From: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 04:14:23 + Almost forgot, the french also have an olivine diogenite now, around 200g iirc... From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Enough is Enough, Now NWA 1877 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2004 19:27:47 -0700 Dear List, Enough is really enough, Bob Evans not listening to what was posted by people in know is now using the NWA 1877 designation, the number reserved for an Olivine Diogenite. We paid for the study of this material, reserved a NWA number for it and made it official by submitting it to the NomCom for a vote. A regular Diogenite or even terrestrial stones could easily be confused so be careful about purchasing an Olivine Diogenite from anybody who did not have his material studied in a lab, approved by the NomCom and issued its very own number. Off List, does anybody have Bob Evans address so that it will save us time in serving the legal documents we had prepared, this has gone far enough. Wishing everybody who adheres to good standards and plays by the rules well, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
