RE: [meteorite-list] large, radioactive ebay brahins from chenobyl area
Harlan, Ive often wondered about this too! If someone has measured an 'increase over background' then clearly the potential at least exists for a serious health issue.. I am an engineer in the nuclear industry, so I have access to Geiger counters and MCA's etc and I have extensively checked my Brahin but found no abnormal contamination, but that's not to say it isn't a potential issue. As far as I know the Brahin strewn field extends reasonably far into the restricted zone, much of the land has never been surveyed, so the levels are unknown, I doubt much contamination would have penetrated deep into the metal, more likely most danger would be from any residual surface soil/moisture, that is still on the outer surface of the metal. What would worry me more is the workshops that are cutting the stuff, airborne radioactive dust being an even more serious issue! Just goes to show, every home should have a Geiger counter imho... Mark Ford -Original Message- From: harlan trammell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2004 16:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] large, radioactive ebay brahins from chenobyl area i noticed a very large , whole brahin piece on ebay. in the ad, it stated that there was an additional amount of radiation over the backgeound radiation rate from it due to the fact that it was collected in the chernobyl area. a.) is this a concern for health risks? b.) just HOW MUCH of this used-to-be$25/g, but-now-is-50cents/g (hmmm...), huge pieces of brahin is or may be being collected illegally from the chernobyl radiation area? i do not have a gieger counter, so i can't check mine. all documented info appreciated. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - October 22, 2004
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[meteorite-list] SQUAW CREEK
Hi list.I am just wondering.Does anyone else have any squaw creek in thier collections?I am told that it is one of the more stable ones.I will be getting my 438 gram slice today.The picture of it is great.180 x 93 x 6 mm in size.WOW!!!Io not collect many irons, but this one is a beaut.I'll have a pic of it on my website, hopefully tomorrow before I leave for cancun sunday. steve arnold,chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: MUNICH - FRIDAY - How to get there hints.
Come on - Beer testing is not such a hard work and finally it was Christian's Hanno's idea! They should get beer for free (I'm not an alcoolist yet). In fact I'm glad, that I still found some places in a nearby location bearing upon some bavaricity, as it had to be short-termed and the surroundings of the fair site are Pampa(c), free field and a new errected city quarter, which isn't ready yet, thus not easy to find something at the date of a large fair. Next year I can plan it better and earlier. Perhaps it's a good idea then to choose Saturday evening, as many meteorite freaks and collectors have to work on Friday or do not travel to the show on Friday, because they fear not to be allowed to enter, as they have no tickets for the special GeoFa day. Also joining now: Nicholas Gessler, Haberer (one of the most successfull moon hunters), Gabel (chiefimpactor), Ralew (sr-meteorites). See you! Martin - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: MUNICH - FRIDAY - How to get there hints. In a message dated 10/21/2004 12:44:43 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think we will invite him there for a good Weizenbier (or more) for doing this for us. Is anybody else the same opinion ? I want to read many replies !!! best regards, Christian - You are absolutely right. Martin has done a great job!!! The city of Munich should make him their official Ambassador. ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MOBILE For Munich
Dear list, As we may not be all in the same time at the same place, I suggest that we exchange Mobiles # . Here is mine: Michel FRANCO: + 33 671 62 69 28 ( gsm) Regards Michel. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SQUAW CREEK
The question iswhen will you be putting this one up for trade or sale. Jamie - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:20 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] SQUAW CREEK Hi list.I am just wondering.Does anyone else have any squaw creek in thier collections?I am told that it is one of the more stable ones.I will be getting my 438 gram slice today.The picture of it is great.180 x 93 x 6 mm in size.WOW!!!Io not collect many irons, but this one is a beaut.I'll have a pic of it on my website, hopefully tomorrow before I leave for cancun sunday. steve arnold,chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A 6 kg DIOGENITE TO FUND NEXT WINTER EXPEDITIONS !
Dear List (s), After several years prospecting, I need to try to stabilize my balance and I have decided that I should take off my collection a museum quality meteorite, in order to fund my next winter expeditions in the Sahara and to feed my family. One of my nicest pieces is probably the meteorite I am offering today. It will be the center piece of many meteorite collection. It happened that last year I recovered a massive 6.760 kg achondrite in the Sahara. When I first saw it, I already thought: my God, a big DIO!. It is a very compact meteorite less fragile than average diogenites. It shows a well preserved fusion crust with regmaglypts and flow lines, primary and secondary crust. ( see photos). Where the crust is gone, say on half of the meteorite surface, ( achondrite crusts are very fragile) very impressive centimetric wide light green pyroxene cristals are present. ( see photos) Since I brought it back, this meteorite has been examined by several specialists and first MEB analyses has shown that this achondrite is at least a Diogenite, confirming my guesses. Investigations should had been finished by this fall but more material was requested to fullfill the knowledge of this Diogenite. Isotope Oxygene ratios are not known today. But the best prospecting season approaches and I really need to fly to the bare and dry desert sands. That 's why I am offering this master piece for sale today. Photos can be seen on http://www.caillou-noir.com/Molay.htm Serious proposals welcome off list. I will go to Munich Show ( 29/31 nov) and can bring it with me if the case occurs. Even if it is not sold, I have stiil some for beer ( I should write Euros but I have not the font in my computer ) Thank you for having read this message. If you are not a potential buyer, please have look. It deserves a the visit. Best regards Michel FRANCO Meteoritical Society Member (1999) IMCA #3869 Caillou Noir www.caillou-noir.com BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes 74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE mobile + 33 671 62 69 28 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: AW: [meteorite-list] There are no silly questions? Wait until youhaveread that :-)
Dear Eric, A good question which I don't have an answer to. In terms of orbital evolution and probabilities to be catched up the larger solar system bodies, I do not se a reason, why iron meteoroids shall survive longer than stony meteoroids. May be, the differences in CRE ages are a result of cosmic-ray shielding effects. Does someone else has a good idea to explain these differences? Cheers, Jörn / MetBase -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Oktober 2004 20:06 An: Jörn Koblitz; almitt; Bernhard Rems Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] There are no silly questions? Wait until youhaveread that :-) If all ungrouped iron meteorites are derived from the cores of differentiated bodies, the question is: where is all the crust gone? Why don't we have many more (at least 92) different types of achondrites in our meteorite collections? From Mittlefehldt et al, chapter 4 p4-15 Planetary Materials Reviews in Mineralogy Vol 36 cosmic ray exposure ages of iron meteorites are typically in the range of 200 to 1000 Ma, some 5 to 50 times longer than typical for stony meteorites. Tight clusters in exposure ages for groups IIIAB and IVA suggest discrete breakup events for their parent bodies 650 +/- 75 and 420 +/- 70 Ma ago, respectively (Voshage and Feldmann 1979). No other clusters have been observed. The highest 41K/40K exposure age measured for an iron meteorite is 2.3 Ga, or half the age of the solar system, for the ungrouped Deep Springs iron. The longest CRE exposure age I know of for a non-iron is Soko-Banja at 71.1 Ma although there may be others I don't know of. This does exclude lunars which do have CRE ages of up to a billion years. So if the non-irons are swept clean in 100,000 years or less and the irons hang around for a up to a billion or more that would explain why we see more variety in iron parent bodies. -- Eric Olson ELKK Meteorites http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 01-15-1970 Scientists Agog over (Lost City) Meteorite
Paper: News Journal City: Mansfield, Ohio Date: Thursday, January 15, 1970 Page: 5 Scientists Agog over Meteorite By VICTOR COHN WASHINGTON (PTS) Space watchers have rushed to Washington for study of what a Aeronautics and Space Administration official calls the freshest meteorite ever examined. Studying a meteorite quickly is especially important to biologists, looking for chemical forms that might reveal the beginning of life elsewhere in the solar system. Meteorites lying on the ground quickly become contaminated by earthly molecules. The new meteorite was spotted falling in the mid west sky Jan. 3 by some of the 16 automatic telescopes of the seven-state Prairie Network, a joint NASA-Smithsonian astrophysical observatory operation. Six days later the remnant of the Jan, 3 falling star was found near Lost City, Okla. - the first ever found by the network though thousands have been photographed. It weighs 22.6 pounds and is said to be slightly magnetic. Eight billion meteors strike the earth's atmosphere everyday, but all but five to 10 burn out before reaching the ground. And only a few of these are discovered, usually too late for some kinds of study. The Prairie Network was established in 1962 and started operating in 1964, both to photograph meteorites and to try to find them. Its telescopes operate nightly in Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma and South Dakota. Operations are directed from the astrophysical laboratory's Cambridge, Mass. headquarters. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 01-15-1970 (Lost City) Meteorite Fragments Fall On Oklahoma
Paper: Valley Morning Star City: Harlingen, Texas Date: Thursday, January 15, 1970 Page: B-8 Meteorite Fragments Fall On Oklahoma WASHINGTON (UPI) - Excited scientist Wednesday were studying a 21.6 pound star which fell in Oklahoma 11 days ago for clues to the creation of the planets and perhaps of the universe itself. The star a stony meteorite, was the first ever found soon after its fall as the result of a deliberate attempt by man to plot the impact point of a visitor from space with photographs. Even so, recovery of the meteorite was described as a fantastic event for which exceedingly lucky would be weak understatement. Had the space rock bounced a small distance from where it was found, it might never have been discovered. Scientists concerned with how the solar system and its planets came into being are eager to get hold of meteorites as soon as possible after they land. This is because radioactivity induced in these fragments of space debris by millions of years of exposure to cosmic rays, which may be clues to how the universe was created, quickly fades after a meteorite plunges through the protective blanket of the earth's atmosphere. It was the first dramatic triumph of the Prairie Network, a system of 16 automatic camera stations operated since 1964 in seven Midwestern states by the Smithsonian Institution's Astrophysical Observatory (SAO), Cambridge, Mass., under a grant from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). (end) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 01-16-1970 Freshly-fallen (Lost City) meteorite found by US scientists
Paper: Daily Gleaner City: Kingston, Surrey, Jamaica Date: Friday, January 16, 1970 Page: 11 Freshly-fallen meteorite found by US scientists WASHINGTON, January 14, (Reuters): American scientists today proudly displayed a meteorite that they said could prove as scientifically valuable as moon samples brought back by Apollo astronauts. The 22-pound lump of grey rock was found on a snowy cart track in Oklahoma last week after automatic cameras picked up its fiery trail through the earth's atmosphere. It is the first meteorite, the name given to a fallen meteor, whose orbit is accurately known and which has been recovered promptly after it crashed to earth, scientists said. With the aid of 16 unmanned tracking stations scattered across the mid-western states, American scientists have been trying for five years to pinpoint a meteorite's landing so that the object can be recovered and examined before becoming contaminated by earth's molecules. Until this month, all efforts failed. The meteorite, about the size of a volley ball, came down January 3. Within a few days it was calculated that impact occurred in an area half a mile across near the tiny community of Lost City, Okla. Hysterical The man who recovered the rock January 9, was Gunther Schwartz, project field manager, who had gone to Lost City to gather information from anyone who saw the falling star. Schwartz told a Press conference, I was driving along a dirt track when I suddenly saw it in the road. I was hysterical, I couldn't believe my luck. Scientists now have begun preliminary examination of the meteorite which came from beyond Mars. Meteorites have been examined sooner after falling to earth - for instance, after crashing into a building. But Dr. Richard McCrosky scientist in charge of the project, said What is unique about this is we know the orbit. There is only one other case where this was so, and that meteorite was not analyzed early. Scientists wanted what they call a fresh meteorite for analysis of radioactivity caused by cosmic ray bombardment during the trip through space. There radioactive fingerprints provide valuable clues to the composition and history of the universe, officials explained. The rock could even give a clue to whether life exists elsewhere in the universe, the officials added. Since the meteorite has only just fallen to earth, it has probably not had time to become contaminated. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 04-25-1970 (Lost City) Meteorite Provided New Information About Space
Paper: Daily Gleaner City: Kingston, Surrey, Jamaica Date: Saturday, April 25, 1970 Page: 11 Meteorite provides new information about space WASHINGTON, April 24 (AP): Scientists reported that a 35-pound meteorite that fell near Lost City, Okla., last January has provided valuable new information about space. They said it has yielded the firmest evidence yet concerning the intensity of cosmic rays far beyond the sun - raising the possibility that manned spaceshopes venturing to planets beyond Mars might have to be armoured against swarms of high-energy space bullets. Come from beyond Mars, the meteorite struck the earth in three pieces, the largest about 20 pounds. It is estimated to have weighed about 500 pounds originally, and is presumed to have been a fragment of an explosive collision between two huge objects some six million years ago. This theory, the scientists said, comes from calculations of the object's exposure to cosmic rays. Accuracy The meteorite was found by one of the scientists on a snow-covered road outside Lost City on January 10, six days after it reportedly flashed rather spectacularly as a fireball streaming down through the winder atmosphere. It is the first meteorite in history for which the original orbit in space - and trajectory to the earth - has been computed with high accuracy. Indeed it is only the second much meteorite for which even an estimated orbital and trajectory cmputation has been possible. This is so because it is the first to have been photographed in flight by a special American meteor-tracking network set up only a few years ago. The only other recovered meteorite that was photographed in flight was one that fell in Czechoslovakia in 1959, but scientists said this was an accidental sighting using cameras designedfor another purpose. And they said that meteorite's pathway to the earth is still uncertain. Scientists of the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory have calculated that the meteorite whissed earthward from an orbit some 65 million miles beyond the planet Mars. Dr. Philip J. Cressey of the Goddard Spaceflight Centre, Greenbelt, Md., chairman of the session told a newsman: It's a known space probe...we know exactly its trajectory through the earth's atmosphere and we have a good orbit on where it came from. And right now, we do not have any earth-launched space probe that has gone beyond the orbit of Mars. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 05-22-1970 (Lost City) Meteorite Returns For Oklahoma Tours, Exhibitions
Paper: Daily Tribune City: Great Bend, Kansas Date: Friday, May 22, 1970 Page: 3 Meteorites Returns For Oklahoma Tours, Exhibitions WASHINGTON (AP) - The meteorite that made Lost City, Okla., famous in January will return to Oklahoma this summer and autumn for a series of exhibits, the head of the Smithsonian Institution said Tuesday. Roy Clark also confirmed that a fourth fragment had been found on a farm near the tiny Delaware County community, and that the institution has arranged to examine it. He said one of the fragments and information scientists have gleaned from it will be sent within the next two weeks to Oklahoma Science and Arts Foundation in Oklahoma City. No date has been set for the display. The meteorite lighted up much of Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri and Kansas when it fell on Jan. 3 and it was photographed by a nationwide tracking system of cameras. The meteorite became the first in history to be tracked so completely. Analysis of the photographs permitted scientists to pinpoint its origin several million miles beyond Mars, the first time in history for such close tracking. Clark said the latest fragment was located on a farm owned by Marvin Payton, who has agreed to let the Smithsonian study it. (end) Hello list, PDF copies are available, via e-mail, of the Lost City meteorite articles posted today upon request. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] large, radioactive ebay brahins from chenobyl area
List, I suppose it was just a matter of time before radiation contaminated Brahin started showing up on the market. Several years ago, I talked with Ivan K. about the issues concerning the Brahin strewn field including its overlapping the Chernobyl contamination site. According to Ivan, there are large, highly visible monuments surrounding the restricted area making it quite impossible for a meteorite hunter to wander into the area by accident. Anyone who spent much time inside this area would have to be a fool or desperate for money. Reputable meteorite hunters would never knowingly sell contaminated meteorites. And to further complicate the matter, this same area was the site of a huge Russian/German battle(s) during World War II and a local cottage industry exists where buried soldiers are located and repatriated to their respective countries. If my memory is correct, the German government was paying the equivalent of $200 apiece for the remains of their soldiers, which makes detecting and digging in the restricted area a big temptation. It could be possible that some of these folks are finding pieces of the Brahin meteorite and finding a buyer for them. After all, who's going to pass up the opportunity to make several hundreds, even thousands, of dollars when the average monthly income in Russia is about $200.00? I'm guessing that the only thing that's preventing more of the contaminated Brahin from showing up on the meteorite market is the current price. If this pallasite was still selling for $8.00 to $12.00 per gram, a lot of it would be making its way to the collectors market. Best, JKGwilliam At 12:32 AM 10/22/2004, mark ford wrote: Harlan, Ive often wondered about this too! If someone has measured an 'increase over background' then clearly the potential at least exists for a serious health issue.. I am an engineer in the nuclear industry, so I have access to Geiger counters and MCA's etc and I have extensively checked my Brahin but found no abnormal contamination, but that's not to say it isn't a potential issue. As far as I know the Brahin strewn field extends reasonably far into the restricted zone, much of the land has never been surveyed, so the levels are unknown, I doubt much contamination would have penetrated deep into the metal, more likely most danger would be from any residual surface soil/moisture, that is still on the outer surface of the metal. What would worry me more is the workshops that are cutting the stuff, airborne radioactive dust being an even more serious issue! Just goes to show, every home should have a Geiger counter imho... Mark Ford -Original Message- From: harlan trammell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 October 2004 16:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] large, radioactive ebay brahins from chenobyl area i noticed a very large , whole brahin piece on ebay. in the ad, it stated that there was an additional amount of radiation over the backgeound radiation rate from it due to the fact that it was collected in the chernobyl area. a.) is this a concern for health risks? b.) just HOW MUCH of this used-to-be$25/g, but-now-is-50cents/g (hmmm...), huge pieces of brahin is or may be being collected illegally from the chernobyl radiation area? i do not have a gieger counter, so i can't check mine. all documented info appreciated. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The phone pool
Excellent idea to gather the phone numbers of those going to Munich. Please just append yours: Bernhard Rems (ebay: metcollector): +43/6602112645 (mobile) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SW Wyoming meteorite season temporarily closed
Dear List members; For those planing Octoberfest activities combined with a meteorite hunting trip this weekend in SW Wyoming, meteorite hunting season has temporarily been suspended due to 4 of slushy white snow. In the past 24 hours we have received an inch and a half of precipitation. If one could detect through the snow, one would surely get stuck in the knee deep mud. expected.All is not lost, Octoberfest dance tonight and tomorrow night. Cold beer only. Some Ou-hoom-pa-pa Ee-I-Oh, and She's-too-fat-for-me, Temp. is 30 degrees 25-35 mph winds rain snow mix forecast for next six days. Rolling out the barrel, Dave F. reporting __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The phone pool
Here is my phone # : Andrei, Razvan : +40721241978 I'll try to get there Friday morning Andrei - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] The phone pool Excellent idea to gather the phone numbers of those going to Munich. Please just append yours: Bernhard Rems (ebay: metcollector): +43/6602112645 (mobile) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___ Connex scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind Trend Micro VirusWall. Connex automatically scans all messages for viruses using Trend Micro VirusWall. ___ Nota: Este posibil ca produsul Trend Micro VirusWall sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cind deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru orice prejudiciu cauzat de decizia dvs. Disclaimer: It is possible that the Trend Micro VirusWall product may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by your decision to do so. ___ Connex scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind Trend Micro VirusWall. Connex automatically scans all messages for viruses using Trend Micro VirusWall. ___ Nota: Este posibil ca produsul Trend Micro VirusWall sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cind deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru orice prejudiciu cauzat de decizia dvs. Disclaimer: It is possible that the Trend Micro VirusWall product may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by your decision to do so. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The phone pool
I'm so old fashioned, that I don't own a cell phone. Don't like to get my brain grilled, it's already smallhard enough. Will have to borrow one for Friday. Martin - Original Message - From: Razvan Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The phone pool Here is my phone # : Andrei, Razvan : +40721241978 I'll try to get there Friday morning Andrei - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 7:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] The phone pool Excellent idea to gather the phone numbers of those going to Munich. Please just append yours: Bernhard Rems (ebay: metcollector): +43/6602112645 (mobile) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ___ Connex scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind Trend Micro VirusWall. Connex automatically scans all messages for viruses using Trend Micro VirusWall. ___ Nota: Este posibil ca produsul Trend Micro VirusWall sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cind deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru orice prejudiciu cauzat de decizia dvs. Disclaimer: It is possible that the Trend Micro VirusWall product may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by your decision to do so. ___ Connex scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind Trend Micro VirusWall. Connex automatically scans all messages for viruses using Trend Micro VirusWall. ___ Nota: Este posibil ca produsul Trend Micro VirusWall sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cind deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru orice prejudiciu cauzat de decizia dvs. Disclaimer: It is possible that the Trend Micro VirusWall product may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by your decision to do so. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Watery mail
Well, why watery? My four meteorite specimens from Mike Farmer arrived today. Although I haven't had much time yet to welcome them, I must say that what I saw knocked my socks off and made my mouth water. That's why this mail may be a little watery :-) The two Soledade specimens (#9 and #12) are breathtaking and one look under the microscope assured me that Soledade does *in no way* look like Odessa. Number three is the thoroughly recrystallized NWA 2092 with absolutely fresh, thick, black fusion crust (specimen #11) and an awesome light- colored matrix with no chondrules visible - a real eye-catcher! And, a roll of drums, please, ... Mike's new ureilite, Dhofar 979. The pics on his website just don't do this gorgeous beauty justice. It is far more beautiful when viewed under the microscope - golden, almost translucent olivines (as if you were looking at Esquel crystals) and abundant finely disseminated metallic particles ... something to die for. No, it is not a pallasite - the numerous 120° triple junctions attest to it being a ureilite. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Two Gorgeous meteorites up for auction
Hello, I have a couple of nice specimens up for auction: A 14 Gram Pultusk individual with incredibly fresh crust almost 100% Complete, and a large Martian specimen on ebay. Both worth taking a look at here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZmaccers531QQsorecordsperpageZ50 QQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1 If the link doesnt work, search seller name : maccers531 BTW, for those in the market for a 75 gram awesome oriented Millbillillie Individual with Black ( not Red ) Crust please check back I will be listing it on ebay sometime this weekend. It took me over two years to find a Millbillillie individual of this quality. Everbody have a good weekend! Thanks Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] squaw creek arrives
Hello list.My new 438 gram slice of SQUAW CREEK has arrived safely from minnesota.It is a thing of beauty.And no jamie, it is staying right here.Thanks again to ken for making this piece available.Also do not forget.My mid-fall meteorite sale. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - 0ctober 18-22, 2004
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES 0ctober 18-22, 2004 o Reull Vallis (Released 18 October 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20041018a.html o Reull Vallis (Released 19 October 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20041019a.html o Reull Vallis (Released 20 October 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20041020a.html o Reull Vallis (Released 21 October 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20041021a.html o Reull Vallis (Released 22 October 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20041022a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A Nininger Moment #23
Not All Of Nininger Hunts Are Smooth The Trip To Loreto, Baja California Often turning his travels, letters from various people, and talking to farmers, ranchers and many other sources, Nininger would run into stories about where a meteorite was thought to exist if he would only go and check it out. Early on he often would make special effort to check out such stories but in his later years of experience, he would often ask questions and catalog an area to investigate when it sounded reasonable. Such was the case of the Loreto Meteorite which was mentioned to Nininger by a oil man John B. Quinn. Two years after hearing about a 150 lb meteorite that laid in a man's yard, Nininger and Addie his wife made a trip down to Guaymas on the Mexican mainland and from there Nininger would fly across to the Baja peninsula to Santa Rosalia. The trip to Loreto he was assisted by Quinn's friend a superintendent of a large cooper mine named Peter Mahieux. On the commute by cargo plane to Santa Rosalia, Nininger and Mr. Mahieux had time to talk and Mahieux himself had a small meteorite he gave to Nininger as a gift which turned up to be the Pallasite variety from the village of Ignacio The following day Mr. Mahieux drove Nininger by truck, 20 miles south to where a young Mexican maintain a machine shop. The young man had been employed by the cooper mine in the past but had been let go which Nininger would be told of later. The young man had been a pilot flying the plane they had flew on to commute from the peninsula to the mainland. Mr. Mahieux explained to Nininger that he would be flown in a plane that the young Mexican had built himself out of crashed airplanes and auto parts but he was the best pilot Mr. Mahieux knew. Nininger expressed concern over this but because Mr. Mahieux had gone so far out of his way and assured Nininger of the young Mexican's qualifications, Nininger accepted his hosts words. On inquiring about why the young man had been let go Mr. Mahieux told Nininger that the young Mexican had on several occasions played a very disturbing trick with the passengers he flew. He would take off with a group of people then when out in the middle of the 100 mile wide gulf he would topple over and pretend to be unconscious, until all the passengers were all near hysterics. The young Mexican seem to derive great fun from this activity. It would be this young man and Nininger who would fly to Loreto along with a retired navy captain and a young geologist who accompanied them on other business. The trip down was uneventful and upon arrival Nininger contacted a padre who spoke some broken english and helped him to contact one of Mahieux former employees who guided Nininger to a Senor Davis, whose yard the meteorite rested. It was a true meteorite and was heavier than Nininger had been told, weighing out at 209 lbs. A price was reached and arrangements were made to ship the large meteorite back to Nininger's home. Nininger soon returned to the flying field at a time that was agreed upon by the parties flying back. All were there except for the pilot who was last seen in a bar about an hour ago. After many uncomplimentary comments about the pilot, the group went and retrieved the young Mexican from the bar and they noted he seemed to be in fair shape. He was taken to lunch an only allowed to drink coffee. After the lunch the group went back promptly to the plane where the young Mexican took off without a hitch. While in the air he instructed the geologist to take over the wheel while he rolled himself a cigarette. The geologist refused and the young Mexican simply shifted the wheel over to him. Nininger and the navy captain had a good view of the back of the geologists head and neck, noting that the neck had turned beet red. Nininger stated that he had never so strongly wanted to hit a man over the head as he did the young Mexican but as he told the navy captain, what good would that do? Mean while while the plane wavered, the young Mexican leaned back and enjoyed the cigarette he had rolled, reaching over to right the plane at the hand of the protesting geologist. Nininger stated that the flight was only 35 or 40 minutes but the three passengers during the flight lived as many days. Upon arrival a perfect landing was made but none of the passengers felt incline to thank their young pilot. The Loreto meteorite was said to have been found from the site in the mountains about 6 hours ride by mules from the nearest ranch on the gulf shore. It was also told that a larger iron, too heavy to move was also at that site. Nininger said that from the Loreto specimen he bought, it was obvious that it had been torn from a larger mass and that the story of a larger mass seem to make sense. Enough sense that later in 1964 and 1965 that Nininger tried to track down the larger mass of Loreto. As with other meteorite hunts, the larger mass was never located. Nininger felt that someday maybe erosion or someone knowledgeable would
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - Saturday, October 23, 2004
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Oct_23.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
