[meteorite-list] Good Meteorite Search Engine

2005-02-23 Thread Mike Groetz
Good Morning-
   I have not seen this mentioned in the meteorite
list (hope I didn't miss it and apologize if I did)-
but the Beta Google Scholar is great to look up
meteorite articles from a scientific perspective and
without the advertising. Here is the link.

http://scholar.google.com/

   Everyone have a good day.
Mike




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RE: [meteorite-list] Blog garbage.

2005-02-23 Thread JKGwilliam
Dirk and List,
It's obvious that the blog wasn't the answer Dirk was looking for when he 
suggested the idea of one to the List.  There are some alternatives out 
there with customizable features.

John Gwilliam
At 10:49 PM 2/22/2005, drtanuki wrote:
Stan and List,
   The only positive thing that I can say about the
blog list is that it keeps some of the garbage and
fights off of this list.
   I have posted once to ask that my name be taken off
of the bloglist.  I do not suggest that anyone should
waste their time going to this site unless you just
want to read garbage and attacks.
   Best to All.  Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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[meteorite-list] NWA 3118 CV3 Chondrule-Field Update

2005-02-23 Thread bernd . pauli
 What does all this mean?
 
Hello Walter, Bill, and List,

I'll try to go through this in little steps:

 examination of the inclusion ...shows it to consist of small chondrules
 and chondrule fragments composed of very magnesian olivine (Fa1.1)

The chondrules in the lower right part of the 32-gram slice are much smaller
than chondrules in the remaining CV3 matrix like chondrules in CO3 chondrites
that are much smaller.

See also O.R. Norton's Encyclopedia, pp. 135-136 and p. 136, Fig. 7.19:

While the average chondrule-diameter of a CV is about 1 mm, the average for
a CO chondrite is about 0.15 mm.

 small chondrules ... composed of very magnesian olivine (Fa1.1)

O.R. Norton, 135: most [chondrules in CO chondrites] are porphyritic
olivine chondrules with olivine made of nearly pure forsterite.

O.R. Norton, p. 312, Appendix C, Minerals in Meteorites:

Forsterite = the magnesium end member of the olivine ... (Mg2SiO4)

The chemical formula shows it is *magnesian* olivine and Fa1.1 shows there
is hardly any trace of iron. The opposite end member is fayalite (Fe2SiO4),
the iron end member (here it is iron that is missing).

 with marginal Fe-rich reaction zones (Fa36.9)

Imagine a small rim around the chondrules. These outer zones reacted with
FeO-rich (iron-rich) olivine in the surronding matrix and thereby became
enriched in Fe (not just Fa1.1 [iron-poor] but Fa36.9 [iron-rich]).

 against a porous matrix composed of felted blades of relatively
 ferroan olivine (Fa40.9-45.9) with accessory troilite and pentlandite.

Here is what I already said the matrix is rich in olivine that contains
a lot of iron and not as much magnesium as those magnesian chondrules.

 This clast has the attributes of Type A/B dark inclusions ...

Dark inclusions are lithic fragments up to about 5 cm in size. They have
been found in several CV3 chondrites, for example in Allende, Vigarano,
Leoville, etc.). Their main mineral component is fayalitic olivine. Some
are chondrule-rich, some are chondrule-free (consist almost entirely of
matrix)*.

*Reference:

WEISBERG M.K. et al. (1998) Fayalitic olivine in CV3 chondrite matrix
and dark inclusions: A nebular origin (MAPS 33-5, 1998, 1087-1099).

 This clast has the attributes of *Type A/B* dark inclusions ...

HUTCHISON R. (2004) Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and
Isotopic Synthesis (Cambridge Planetary Science Series, p. 62):

Porphyritic chondrules may be type I and FeO-poor
  or type II and FeO-rich

They may additionally be subdivided into two categories:

- silica-poor A
- silica-rich B

AB is intermediate.

 Oxygen isotope analysis ... gave replicate (= duplicate) values of:

d17O = +0.08, -0.18;
d18O = 5.14, 4.99;
D17O = -2.63, -2.81 per mil,  respectively, which plot on
   the best fit line for whole rock CV chondrites.

See O.R. Norton, p. 135 or McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and
Their Parent Planets, p.51: The oxygen isotopic compositions
provide one means of classifying chondrites into clans and groups.

When you look at these plots in Norton or McSween, you'll see that
these values are in the range for CV chondrites but very close to
the area for CM chondrites (which are much more primitive than
CVs and point toward aqueous activity and aqueous alteration on
their parent bodies.

So this clast may represent a more hydrated relict part of a CV parent
body the other parts of which are more dehydrated due to parent body
metamorphism.

A piece from a boundary area between more and less dehydrated
material?

A pocket (or clast) of more primitive material embedded into the
higher metamorphosed CV3 material?

 a specimen that clearly demonstrates what the above report describes:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6513101418


Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] NWA 3118 CV3 Chondrule-Field Update

2005-02-23 Thread bernd . pauli
Correction:


The chemical formula shows it is *magnesian* olivine and Fa1.1 shows there
is hardly any trace of iron. The opposite end member is fayalite (Fe2SiO4),
the iron end member (here it is MAGNESIUM that is missing).

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3118 CV3 Chondrule-Field Update

2005-02-23 Thread K. Ohtsuka
Hello List members,

See also Mineralogy of dark inclusions in CV by Brearly  Jones in
Planetary Materials, Reviews in Mineralogy vol. 36, p3-225, which is a
well-written review for CV DI, I guess.

K. Ohtsuka, Tokyo

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Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 3118 CV3 Chondrule-Field Update


  What does all this mean?

 Hello Walter, Bill, and List,

 I'll try to go through this in little steps:

  examination of the inclusion ...shows it to consist of small chondrules
  and chondrule fragments composed of very magnesian olivine (Fa1.1)

 The chondrules in the lower right part of the 32-gram slice are much
smaller
 than chondrules in the remaining CV3 matrix like chondrules in CO3
chondrites
 that are much smaller.

 See also O.R. Norton's Encyclopedia, pp. 135-136 and p. 136, Fig. 7.19:

 While the average chondrule-diameter of a CV is about 1 mm, the average
for
 a CO chondrite is about 0.15 mm.

  small chondrules ... composed of very magnesian olivine (Fa1.1)

 O.R. Norton, 135: most [chondrules in CO chondrites] are porphyritic
 olivine chondrules with olivine made of nearly pure forsterite.

 O.R. Norton, p. 312, Appendix C, Minerals in Meteorites:

 Forsterite = the magnesium end member of the olivine ... (Mg2SiO4)

 The chemical formula shows it is *magnesian* olivine and Fa1.1 shows there
 is hardly any trace of iron. The opposite end member is fayalite
(Fe2SiO4),
 the iron end member (here it is iron that is missing).

  with marginal Fe-rich reaction zones (Fa36.9)

 Imagine a small rim around the chondrules. These outer zones reacted with
 FeO-rich (iron-rich) olivine in the surronding matrix and thereby became
 enriched in Fe (not just Fa1.1 [iron-poor] but Fa36.9 [iron-rich]).

  against a porous matrix composed of felted blades of relatively
  ferroan olivine (Fa40.9-45.9) with accessory troilite and pentlandite.

 Here is what I already said the matrix is rich in olivine that contains
 a lot of iron and not as much magnesium as those magnesian chondrules.

  This clast has the attributes of Type A/B dark inclusions ...

 Dark inclusions are lithic fragments up to about 5 cm in size. They have
 been found in several CV3 chondrites, for example in Allende, Vigarano,
 Leoville, etc.). Their main mineral component is fayalitic olivine. Some
 are chondrule-rich, some are chondrule-free (consist almost entirely of
 matrix)*.

 *Reference:

 WEISBERG M.K. et al. (1998) Fayalitic olivine in CV3 chondrite matrix
 and dark inclusions: A nebular origin (MAPS 33-5, 1998, 1087-1099).

  This clast has the attributes of *Type A/B* dark inclusions ...

 HUTCHISON R. (2004) Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and
 Isotopic Synthesis (Cambridge Planetary Science Series, p. 62):

 Porphyritic chondrules may be type I and FeO-poor
   or type II and FeO-rich

 They may additionally be subdivided into two categories:

 - silica-poor A
 - silica-rich B

 AB is intermediate.

  Oxygen isotope analysis ... gave replicate (= duplicate) values of:

 d17O = +0.08, -0.18;
 d18O = 5.14, 4.99;
 D17O = -2.63, -2.81 per mil,  respectively, which plot on
the best fit line for whole rock CV chondrites.

 See O.R. Norton, p. 135 or McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and
 Their Parent Planets, p.51: The oxygen isotopic compositions
 provide one means of classifying chondrites into clans and groups.

 When you look at these plots in Norton or McSween, you'll see that
 these values are in the range for CV chondrites but very close to
 the area for CM chondrites (which are much more primitive than
 CVs and point toward aqueous activity and aqueous alteration on
 their parent bodies.

 So this clast may represent a more hydrated relict part of a CV parent
 body the other parts of which are more dehydrated due to parent body
 metamorphism.

 A piece from a boundary area between more and less dehydrated
 material?

 A pocket (or clast) of more primitive material embedded into the
 higher metamorphosed CV3 material?

  a specimen that clearly demonstrates what the above report describes:

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6513101418


 Best wishes,

 Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3118 CV3 Chondrule-Field Update

2005-02-23 Thread joseph_town
Bernd,

Thanks so much for walking through this. I wish I could see every meteorite 
through your eyes.

Very best regards,

Bill

 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  What does all this mean?
  
 Hello Walter, Bill, and List,
 
 I'll try to go through this in little steps:
 
  examination of the inclusion ...shows it to consist of small chondrules
  and chondrule fragments composed of very magnesian olivine (Fa1.1)
 
 The chondrules in the lower right part of the 32-gram slice are much smaller
 than chondrules in the remaining CV3 matrix like chondrules in CO3 chondrites
 that are much smaller.
 
 See also O.R. Norton's Encyclopedia, pp. 135-136 and p. 136, Fig. 7.19:
 
 While the average chondrule-diameter of a CV is about 1 mm, the average for
 a CO chondrite is about 0.15 mm.
 
  small chondrules ... composed of very magnesian olivine (Fa1.1)
 
 O.R. Norton, 135: most [chondrules in CO chondrites] are porphyritic
 olivine chondrules with olivine made of nearly pure forsterite.
 
 O.R. Norton, p. 312, Appendix C, Minerals in Meteorites:
 
 Forsterite = the magnesium end member of the olivine ... (Mg2SiO4)
 
 The chemical formula shows it is *magnesian* olivine and Fa1.1 shows there
 is hardly any trace of iron. The opposite end member is fayalite (Fe2SiO4),
 the iron end member (here it is iron that is missing).
 
  with marginal Fe-rich reaction zones (Fa36.9)
 
 Imagine a small rim around the chondrules. These outer zones reacted with
 FeO-rich (iron-rich) olivine in the surronding matrix and thereby became
 enriched in Fe (not just Fa1.1 [iron-poor] but Fa36.9 [iron-rich]).
 
  against a porous matrix composed of felted blades of relatively
  ferroan olivine (Fa40.9-45.9) with accessory troilite and pentlandite.
 
 Here is what I already said the matrix is rich in olivine that contains
 a lot of iron and not as much magnesium as those magnesian chondrules.
 
  This clast has the attributes of Type A/B dark inclusions ...
 
 Dark inclusions are lithic fragments up to about 5 cm in size. They have
 been found in several CV3 chondrites, for example in Allende, Vigarano,
 Leoville, etc.). Their main mineral component is fayalitic olivine. Some
 are chondrule-rich, some are chondrule-free (consist almost entirely of
 matrix)*.
 
 *Reference:
 
 WEISBERG M.K. et al. (1998) Fayalitic olivine in CV3 chondrite matrix
 and dark inclusions: A nebular origin (MAPS 33-5, 1998, 1087-1099).
 
  This clast has the attributes of *Type A/B* dark inclusions ...
 
 HUTCHISON R. (2004) Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and
 Isotopic Synthesis (Cambridge Planetary Science Series, p. 62):
 
 Porphyritic chondrules may be type I and FeO-poor
   or type II and FeO-rich
 
 They may additionally be subdivided into two categories:
 
 - silica-poor A
 - silica-rich B
 
 AB is intermediate.
 
  Oxygen isotope analysis ... gave replicate (= duplicate) values of:
 
 d17O = +0.08, -0.18;
 d18O = 5.14, 4.99;
 D17O = -2.63, -2.81 per mil,  respectively, which plot on
the best fit line for whole rock CV chondrites.
 
 See O.R. Norton, p. 135 or McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and
 Their Parent Planets, p.51: The oxygen isotopic compositions
 provide one means of classifying chondrites into clans and groups.
 
 When you look at these plots in Norton or McSween, you'll see that
 these values are in the range for CV chondrites but very close to
 the area for CM chondrites (which are much more primitive than
 CVs and point toward aqueous activity and aqueous alteration on
 their parent bodies.
 
 So this clast may represent a more hydrated relict part of a CV parent
 body the other parts of which are more dehydrated due to parent body
 metamorphism.
 
 A piece from a boundary area between more and less dehydrated
 material?
 
 A pocket (or clast) of more primitive material embedded into the
 higher metamorphosed CV3 material?
 
  a specimen that clearly demonstrates what the above report describes:
 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6513101418
 
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Bernd
 
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[meteorite-list] New Chassignite

2005-02-23 Thread The Earth's Memory


Dear List members,

we just up-dated our web page with nice
Chassignite slices, we had difficulties to
take good pictures but it still worth looking
at them ! http://www.meteorite.fr/en/forsale/chassignite.htm 
We want to thank all the 74 of you that did sign or write
a letter against the saharamet crap.

you all have a good day,


Bruno  Carine
La Memoire de la Terre Sarl
The Earth's Memory LLC
France
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www.fossile.fr
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[meteorite-list] Rosetta to Fly By Earth on March 4

2005-02-23 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMMTBYEM4E_index_0.html

ESA's comet chaser to fly by Earth
European Space Agency 
23 February 2005

ESA's comet-chaser Rosetta will make a fly-by of planet Earth on 4 March
2005, and sky watchers should be able to see it with telescopes or
binoculars if the sky is clear! Read on for details of ESA's 'Rosetta Up
Close' photo contest.
 
Rosetta is approaching Earth from an area in the sky between the
constellations Leo and Sextans, and should first become visible to large
amateur telescopes around 26 February 2005.

The spacecraft will make its closest approach to Earth at about 23:10
CET and come within 1900 kilometres, at which time it will be over
Mexico, having already passed over Europe.
 
Watchers in Europe may have best evening view
 
On the evening of the closest approach, sky watchers in Europe will be
favourably placed to follow this event using smaller telescopes or
binoculars. Unfortunately, Rosetta is not expected to become visible to
the naked eye from Europe as it will still be about 10 000 kilometres
away until it disappears below the horizon.

However, amateur astronomers using video or photo-imaging in conjunction
with a telescope should have a great viewing opportunity - weather
permitting. They may even be able to see Rosetta's solar panels, which
extend over 32 metres; the high-gain antenna may also be distinguishable.
 
After sunset on 4 March, it will appear to travel from south east to
south west, moving from the constellation Sextans towards the setting
Sun, crossing the complete sky. It will move faster as it heads west,
disappearing below the horizon around 23:00 CET. As seen from Europe it
will only reach a 'magnitude' of about +8 or +9 on the brightness scale
used by astronomers. This is dimmer than a typical faint star and not
readily apparent to the eye.
 
Rosetta swings between Earth and Mars
 
This fly-by manoeuvre will swing the three-tonne Rosetta spacecraft
around our planet and out towards Mars, where it will make a fly-by on
26 February 2007, only to come back again to Earth. Fly-bys are
necessary to accelerate the spacecraft, using planetary gravity, such
that the orbital velocity of the target comet can eventually be matched.

This is the first of four planet fly-bys (three times with Earth, once
with Mars) that Rosetta will carry out in its long journey to its
target, Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko. Rosetta will reach the comet in
2014, enter into orbit and deliver a lander, Philae, onto the surface.

Moon to serve as 'dummy' asteroid
 
A number of activities are planned during the current fly-by. A few
hours before the closest approach the spacecraft will be pointed towards
the Moon and the remote sensing and several other instruments will be
switched on for calibration purposes.

After this fly-by, one of the two Navigation Cameras will be switched on
to test Rosetta's ability to track asteroids using the Moon as a 'dummy'
asteroid. Rosetta is scheduled to fly past two asteroids, Steins in
September 2008 and Lutetia in July 2010, during which this tracking mode
will be used to keep the spacecraft instruments centred on target.
 
'Rosetta Up Close' photo contest
 
Sky watchers everywhere are invited to submit their photos of Rosetta
passing Earth to ESA's 'Rosetta Up Close' photo contest. Details of the
contest, rules, prizes and submission procedures will be posted shortly
on the ESA web site.
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[meteorite-list] Brahin trade offer.. want carbonaceous meteorite

2005-02-23 Thread Lars Pedersen
Hello all
I want to focus my meteorite collecting.
I want to concentrade on carbonaceous meteorites, and my Sikhote-Alin 
collection.

So my newly obtained 530 gram Full slice of Brahin Pallasite is up for a 
trade with preferebly a carbonaceous, or else a big Sikhote-Alin.

Anyone interested ?
Best
Lars 

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Chassignite

2005-02-23 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Bruno  Carine,
I tried to order from you, but the email was returned marked:
--
Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; host mail.aricia.fr[195.167.227.248] said: 550
5.0.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... We don't accept spam (in reply to MAIL FROM
command)
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I don't know what triggered this, as I only have a couple of small
quotes in my sig file - I used to get this when I had a bunch of URLs
in my sig file.
Please contact me off list.
Thanks, Michael




on 2/23/05 11:10 AM, The Earth's Memory at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Dear List members,
 
 we just up-dated our web page with nice
 Chassignite slices, we had difficulties to
 take good pictures but it still worth looking
 at them ! http://www.meteorite.fr/en/forsale/chassignite.htm
 We want to thank all the 74 of you that did sign or write
 a letter against the saharamet crap.
 
 you all have a good day,
 
 
 Bruno  Carine
 La Memoire de la Terre Sarl
 The Earth's Memory LLC
 France
 www.meteorite.fr
 www.fossile.fr
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[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - February 17-23, 2005

2005-02-23 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
February 17-23, 2005

The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:

o Crater in Acidalia (Released 17 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/17/

o Sedimentary Rocks in Melas (Released 18 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/18/

o December's Dunes (Released 19 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/19/

o Inverted Channel (Released 20 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/20/

o Ganges Landslides (Released 21 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/21/

o Mars at Ls 160 Degrees (Released 22 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/22/

o Iani Sedimentary Rocks (Released 23 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/23/



All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html

Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the 
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as 
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.

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[meteorite-list] Bright Light Seen Streaking Over England

2005-02-23 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.shropshirestar.com/show_article.php?aID=29869

Another sighting in UFO mystery
Shropshire Star (United Kingdom)
February 22, 2005 

Mystery surrounds the origin of a bright light seen streaking through
the Shropshire skies at the weekend after two late night cinema-goers
claim to have spotted the phenomena 10 hours earlier.

Several county residents reported the light at about 10am on Sunday,
with many believing they had seen a meteorite.

But Rachael Jones, of Harlescott, and Bryony Morgan, of Castlefields,
cast further intrigue into the sighting after they saw the object as
they left Cineworld, in Old Potts Way, at 12.30am on Sunday.

Miss Jones said: It was a sort of yellowy-white colour and then tailed
off to nowhere, it went across the sky and then disappeared. We didn't
know what it was, but it was weird.

But motorist Richard Gorton today stuck with original reports, saying he
had seen the blazing trail from Craven Arms at 10.15am on Sunday.


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[meteorite-list] Were the Dinosaurs Done in by Fungus?

2005-02-23 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.boston.com/news/globe/health_science/articles/2005/02/22/were_the_dinosaurs_done_in_by_fungus/
  

Were the dinosaurs done in by fungus?
By Carolyn Y. Johnson
The Boston Globe
February 22, 2005

In the still unsolved mystery of how the dinosaurs died, there's a new
suspect -- fungus.

After a meteor slammed into the Earth 65 million years ago, the great
dying began, decimating life in the oceans and killing off the
dinosaurs -- with mysteriously little effect on mammals. Conjecture over
what did in the reptiles has long fascinated everyone from school
children to paleontologists, but a new theory suggests that a less
earth-shaking possibility could have played a role.

The forests went out. The fungi proliferated, and the Earth became a
giant compost pile. An enormous number of spores were released, said
Dr. Arturo Casadevall, an infectious disease researcher who proposed
last month that air thick with fungal spores after the meteor hit could
have overwhelmed animals' immune systems, causing sickness and death. If
he's right, the large numbers of warm-blooded mammals and birds that
survived the mass extinction might have had a natural advantage -- body
temperatures too hot for fungal infections to take hold.

It's just a beautifully creative suggestion, said Nicholas Money, a
mycologist, or mold expert, from Miami University of Ohio and author of
Carpet Monsters and Killer Spores: A Natural History of Toxic Mold.

Casadevall, of Albert Einstein College of New York, laid out his
suggestion in this month's issue of Fungal Genetics and Biology when
considering a much larger question: I ask you, why are we so hot?

He has long been troubled by the lives of warm-blooded animals, who must
live a virtual food-finding mission because they burn so many calories
each day just heating their bodies. Cold-blooded animals, on the other
hand, need only eat once every few days. Where, he wondered, is the
advantage in a life of constant scurrying, foraging, and saving up food
for the winter?

That question coincided with another puzzling trend: Fungal infections
rarely give mammals more than a mildly irritating case of athlete's foot
or a yeast infection but are often deadly to plants, fish, and insects.

At a crucial time in natural history, the world's 1.5 million species of
molds, yeasts, rusts, and mushrooms, also might have been a vehicle for
natural selection.

In the aftermath of the meteor that carved out the Chicxulub crater on
the Yucatan Peninsula, the Earth probably was a cool, shady place.
Researchers last year discovered fossil evidence of a post-collision
fungal spike, and in a world dense with potentially pathogenic fungi,
warm-blooded animals might have had a unique advantage.

In such a situation, every warm-blooded generation has a little
advantage, and when the dust settles and the sun comes out again . . .
the warm-blooded find themselves in a world with a lot more space,
Casadevall said.

Other evidence shows that the mass die-off didn't occur immediately
after the collision, but about 300,000 years afterward -- raising the
possibility that an intermediary factor, like fungi, could have played a
part.

The trouble with the theory, experts said, is that no one is sure
whether the dinosaurs were warm- or cold-blooded. Smaller cold-blooded
animals like turtles, lizards, snakes, and frogs were able to weather
the mass extinction, indicating that size, not body temperature, may
have been a deciding factor.

And, while there is wide agreement that a massive meteor struck the
Earth 65 million years ago, other theories suggest that increased
volcanic activity could have played a role in the extinction.

Stephen McLoughlin, a geologist from Queensland University of Technology
in Australia who discovered evidence of the long-ago fungal explosion,
said the spores that his group studied, which were preserved in a layer
of coal in New Zealand, probably did not harm animals.

He stated in an e-mail that he finds Casadevall's idea intriguing but,
while this may have been the case, it is virtually impossible to test.

Nonetheless, the main idea behind Casadevall's research -- that deadly
fungi could have helped establish the age of the mammals -- is timely.

Fungal infections are now emerging as an important force in nature
again: Fungal diseases also may be contributing to the worldwide decline
of the coral reefs, and appear to play a poorly understood role in the
steady decline of amphibians.

A study last year reported that a third of all amphibian species
worldwide are facing extinction -- and while climate change, pollution,
and habitat loss are all thought to play a role, many of the extinct and
endangered frog species have been infected with the chtyrid fungus,
which may interfere with their delicate, breathable skin, produce a
toxin, or something else.

Like everything in life, it wasn't just one thing that killed the
dinosaurs, Casadevall said. In the case of the amphibians, you can
imagine 

[meteorite-list] AD - Naturesvault Auctions Ending Today

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear list members,
Just a quick note to let you know I have about 50 eBay auctions under seller 
name, naturesvault, ending in a few hours, many still at just 99 cents. I 
just got back late last night from another successful trip to Morocco. I 
will be posting several awesome specimens for silent bid directly to the 
list in a few days after I get caught up.

Here are some of the best buys at the moment with low bids:
NWA 2696 Howardite Individual 24 grams
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6511908698ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
ORIENTED Sikhote-Alin Individual 45.5 grams
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These and more, including last week's new offering of the LL5, NWA 2383 and 
the remaining pieces of the Algerian pallasite.

To see all offerings under, naturesvault, click on one of the above links 
and then click on View seller's other items. That, or go to eBay and 
search for items by seller, naturesvault.

I will be listing new items tonight, including a new L3.8, NWA 2385.
Best regards,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
naturesvault (eBay)
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[meteorite-list] Blue Balls at Harper Lake

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Verish
http://moisture.greenmuseum.org/projects/m2/offsite.html

Well, it just won’t stop raining here in Southern
California.  And some of the storms have been REALLY
big gully washers.  Not much to do but stay home, surf
the net, or “spin yarns”.  

Here is a web site that I found interesting. 
Researchers out at Harper Lake in the Mojave Desert
have placed brightly colored spheres in stream beds in
an attempt to gauge the movement of sediment in that
valley.  Given all these recent storms, those “blue
balls” should be all the way down to the Lake by now! 
Should you go to Harper Lake and find these “Blue
Balls” on the shoreline, you should contact these
researchers and let them know where you found their
balls. 

The connection to meteorites is that many of us have
had the same idea – to purposely place “marked rocks”
on dry lakebeds and to follow their movement over the
years.  (The theory being that where ever the
traveling “marked rocks” collected, that is where you
should search for meteorites;-)

We’re still finding on dry lakes BLACK GOLF BALLS from
1998, back when Paul Gessler was practicing his swing
while calibrating his eyesight for distant black
objects.
:-)
 Bob V

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[meteorite-list] the tooth, part 2

2005-02-23 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi again list.Concerning the tooth.I want to give credit to stan of
goldnrocks for the tooth picture on my website.It really is a beauty.This
is the most unpredictible sikote-alin I have ever seen.This piece is going
to become world famous.I bet every dentist will approve of it.Or at leats
4 out of 5 dentists.I gotta keep with tradition.You can view it on my
museum meteorite page,the last page.And that is the whole tooth.

 steve

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
Illinois Meteorites 
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
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[meteorite-list] Lost Package from Morocco

2005-02-23 Thread AstronomicalResearchNetwork
Never thought it would happen to me but it did.
About a month ago I had apx 5kg box of Achondrites shipped to me from 
Mohamed Ait   from Morocco 
It never arrived Mohamed is not sure if it got shipped to one of his other 
customers by accident .
I posted a link to a picture of the shipment on my website . 
http://www.arn-meteorites.com
I also have a bigger picture I can Email if someone has questions.
The most beautiful black glossy crusted specimen anyone could want What a 
loss !

If anyone knows anything please contact me 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Finally a field nickel test

2005-02-23 Thread Jeffrey Shallit
 Suddenly I spotted a few stones with brightly pink patches of erythrite,
 a cobalt mineral created by weathering.
 Happily I started to collect theese rare specimens and showed it to my
 friends.

I live about 6 hours from Cobalt, Ontario, where it is pretty easy to
find erythrite specimens, most of which are pink crusts on cobalt and
nickel minerals (although I have one piece with needle-like crystals).
I was there last fall and collected lots of erythrite.  I'd happily
trade some Canadian erythrite for some meteorites...

Jeffrey Shallit
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[meteorite-list] Harper Lake could get world's tallest towers

2005-02-23 Thread Robert Verish
Well, it’s still raining here, so I thought I’d pass
along another news-related item about Harper “Dry”
Lake.

Actually, there are a lot of interesting tidbits about
Harper Lake.  History, too.  There’s still these old
buildings out there from when Howard Hughes built and
flight tested his D2 fighter.  Now, in its place,
there’s a bird sanctuary and a huge solar power plant.
 Still a lot of talk about turning Harper Valley into
a SPACEPORT!  

Yup, think I’ll start a Harper Dry Lake Post of the
Day…

So, what’s the connection to meteorites?  Well, it was
very early on that we prioritized dry lakes such as
this one, areas that were under pressure for being
developed, that had plans to be inundated with water
(Rosamond), that access would be lost due to
wilderness protection (Broadwell) or military base
expansion (Superior Valley  Silver Lake) – to be the
first areas to be searched for meteorites.  Consider
it as a volunteer environmental impact study.  

That’s why we called it “meteorite-recovery”!

--
Sunday, October 12, 2004

Hinkley could get world's tallest towers
Solar plants could result in construction of three
3,000-foot-tall chimneys
By KELLY DONOVAN

Staff Writer 

A German professor's invention could lead to the
construction of two or more towers of power near
Hinkley that would be twice as tall as the Empire
State Building.

A Los Angeles-based company is considering the Harper
Dry Lake area as a possible site for a new type of
solar power plant that is not yet in operation
anywhere in the world.

SolarMission Technologies Inc. wants to build three
200-megawatt solar plants, each with a 3,000-foot
tower, at the chosen site, SolarMission Chief
Financial Officer Chris Davey said.
 
  Before construction of the first so-called solar-
chimney plant in the United States, a company linked
to SolarMission will likely have already built one of
them in Australia that would be identical to the
plants planned here.

Here's how the $350 million plants work: Sunshine
heats air in a greenhouse-like space under a clear
surface that is thousands of acres across. The hot air
then flows up a tower that is 3,000 feet high and 400
feet wide. As it passes through the base of the tower,
it turns turbines to generate electricity.

The plants need to have 3,000-foot towers to
efficiently generate 200 megawatt of electricity,
Davey said. About 200,000 households could be powered
with 200 megawatts.

The plants would emit no pollution and wouldn't
consume water for the production of electricity, Davey
said.

SolarMission would build two, three or four of the
plants (the exact number hasn't been determined yet).

After completion, each would have roughly 50
employees, some of them security personnel, Davey
said. Also, he said about 1,000 temporary construction
jobs would be needed to build each plant.

The plants would be built one after another, not all
at once. Davey said that with each taking 30 months to
build, construction jobs would probably be available
for several years.

SolarMission has been looking at sites in Nevada,
Texas, New Mexico and Arizona in addition to Harper
Dry Lake. Texas, Arizona and Harper Dry Lake appear
to be the forerunners in the site search, Davey said.

The Harper area is an attractive site largely because
it has the highest rating of anywhere in the world on
the solar radiation index, which measures the amount
of sunshine around the globe, Davey said. And the area
has other attributes.

It's extremely flat, there's access to the (power)
grid, it's close to a labor force, and you're in an
environment where development seems to be encouraged,
he said.

Davey said it's premature to discuss what land in the
Harper area is of interest to him, but said, miles
around that area are suitable.

A 200-megawatt plant would supercede two solar
complexes at Kramer Junction and Harper Dry Lake as
the world's largest solar facilities.

A prototype of a solar-chimney plant was tested in
Spain from 1982 to 1989. It had a 600-foot high,
33-foot wide tower.

Although the technology behind the plants is not used
anywhere now, Davey said his company is confident in
its design based on the prototype testing and
extensive research.

We've ... completed a huge amount of due diligence
with contractors, engineering firms who've confirmed
it can be done, he said. We believe it's extremely
sound.

Time Magazine named the plant's design one of the
world's best inventions in a 2002 issue.

Because the project is in such an early stage,
SolarMission hasn't been in contact with government
agencies about it yet.

So, will they allow a 3,000-foot tower?

Federal Aviation Administration spokesman William
Shumann said his agency generally doesn't restrict the
height of towers if they're not too close to airports.
Harper Dry Lake isn't near an airport.

Jim Squire, a senior associate planner for San
Bernardino County, said the maximum height for any
tower in the county is 199 

[meteorite-list] Ad- olivine diogenite slices

2005-02-23 Thread Stefan Ralew
Dear list,
olivine diogenites are probably not very spectacular new. But perhaps I 
have some interesting offers for all collectors who have bought nothing 
of this rare material till now because it was too expensive or too ugly. 
The olivine diogenites from the NWA strewnfields are extremely difficult 
to cut and for this reason the pieces are mostly offered in yellow brown 
fragments. If you try to cut the pieces you have sometimes only crumbs 
and dust as the result of your work. With a heavy cut loss I have sawed 
a small quantity of nice slices and endpieces. In addition, the larger 
slices are polished and I could see first time how this interesting 
meteorite looks from inside. For me it isn't the ugliest meteorite in 
the world now any more. And my price is also very attractive.

All orders are processed in the order of arriving.
I still ask all interested collectors of my coming soon meteorites 
from one of my last offers for a little patience. I wait for the NWA 
numbers at the moment. and I will make all pieces available as soon as 
possible.

Best wishes,
Stefan
SR-Meteorite 
I.M.C.A. Member#3368 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Website url: http://www.meteoriten.com/ 
Newsletter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Stefan Ralew 
Kunibertstrasse 29 
12524 Berlin 
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[meteorite-list] Ad - Weekly Rare Material Special!

2005-02-23 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List,

This week I would like to introduce NWA 3145, a rare primitive achondrite
(H7).  I have made about 140 grams available on ebay all at once, when it is
gone I will have no more.  starting at just $32.50 a gram with a buy-it-now
price of only $35.00 a gram, this is the lowest price you will find an H7
anywhere. Some collectors know good prices when they see them as pieces are
already selling and the auctions were just put up.

You can view NWA 3145 at the following link:
http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=raremeteorites


Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck.


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting in Spain vs. USA deserts

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Bowling
John Gwilliam wrote:
The die-hard hunters have developed a simple philosophy  just dig 
it.
That's the policy I have - you never know when you'll find a nice gold 
nugget or other valuable items.

Martin Altmann wrote:
as in Spain there is the only desert in Europe, the Desierto de 
Tabernas.
Never was there. On the pictures I saw from, I couldn't find a 
suitable
terrain.
I was afraid that would be the case.  :-(  But you never know, it may be 
worth the struggle as I hear the Glorieta Mountain area is very steep in 
areas...

In Europe everything is full of metal and slags. Thousands
years of settlement, agriculture, metal melting, wars - if one only 
thinks
how much metal the last two world wars pumped in the soil. You'll find
everything from Roman coins, medieavel or antique slags, bullets from 
Thirty
years war, nails from bronze age, but no meteorites.
Sounds like stuff worth digging, but I'm sure there are a lot of legal 
problems in such instances.  Thousand year old trash doesn't bother me, 
but there are some area's I woudn't bother detecting (but in such cases 
there are rewards in doing so).

Happy Meteorites,
Mark 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [meteorite_hunters] Meteorite hunting in Spain(was First meteorites)

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Bowling
Bob Verish wrote:
Here is a link to an article that I wrote about the
successful meteorite-recovery program in Spain:
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2004/jul04.htm
There are many links from those web pages, so you
should find some good information there.
Thanks Bob - very interesting.  There was a good article on fireball 
networks in (I think) ST magazine about a year back.  I'm wondering 
whether new  cheaper technology is making the development of an amateur 
network possible  what would be a good distribution of stations and how 
many suitable.

(P.S. - regarding work being done on a measure how
good a region will be for meteorite recovery, I like
to think that all of our field efforts in AZ-CA-NV are
working to just that same goal;-)
Keep up the great work!
Have White's -
Will Travel
Mark
Vail, AZ 

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[meteorite-list] The Art of Collecting Meteorites!

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Bowling
Hi List,
What can I say that hasn't already been said?  Three thumbs, way, way 
up!

Happy collecting,
a very happy Mark in Vail, AZ 

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[meteorite-list] Another lecture bites the dust

2005-02-23 Thread David Freeman
Dear List;
I have just presented my annual winter lecture for meteorite, petrified 
wood, and other collectibles of SW Wyoming.
I had a crowd of 106 turn out at the local library to hear me ramble 
back and forth on meteorites, meteorite books, wood, wood books, BLM 
collecting rules, private and public land issues, GPS datum, maps, and 
finished up with identifying about 50 rocks for folks.
You all should try a community event as this.  
I am doing another lecture in Green River next month by popular demand. 
Pretty inspiring to have an attendance as this.
Very best,
Dave F.
IMCA #3864

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[meteorite-list] Argentera change name - for who have buy

2005-02-23 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello

I have received the information the Argentera
meteorite change name in Lago Valscura, the meteorite
exit in the next Met.Bulletin.

Matteo


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Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
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