[meteorite-list] AD - More New Pieces

2005-04-03 Thread Impactika
Hello everybody

Yes, it is late, or very  late, depending which clock you are looking at, but 
I finally got another 15  pieces posted on my site. They are all on this page:

www.impactika.com/meteorites-frame.html  

Some very nice pieces  there, if I may say so myself.  I particularly 
recommend the new DAG  carbonaceous, a CV / CK3. Ever seen one of those before?

Goodnight, I'll  be glad to answer your questions tomorrow (or later today, 
rather)

Anne  M. Black
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[meteorite-list] free meteorite posters bilingual (English/French)

2005-04-03 Thread Jeffrey Shallit

Hi, at the Paris, Ontario gem  mineral show yesterday I picked up a dozen
free color posters about meteorites made by the Geological Survey of
Canada.  These are 84cm x 52cm (33 x 21) and come already folded, so
they will fit in a 10 by 12 envelope.  One side is in English and the
other side in French.  The paper has a dull finish, not glossy.  Depicted
are Mundrabilla, Annaheim, Bruderheim, Springwater, and some
meteorwrongs.  Great for kids or for anybody who wants to learn some
meteorite French (or English for that matter - I am thinking of someone in
particular...)

I will send these out FREE to the first 10 people who contact me at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Repeat:  if you want a poster, do not reply to THIS address.  Reply to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jeffrey Shallit

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Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteor?

2005-04-03 Thread Moser Francesco
I just upload the video on my internet web-site, only 671.280 Kb.
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ParkForest.avi
Ciao

Francesco Moser
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/
IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc
AAT www.astrofilitrentini.it
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Thousands of witnesses to the fireball, and at least one video.
Chris
Video ?
Anyone have it ? I want see..
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[meteorite-list] Allende inclusion help!!!

2005-04-03 Thread Tom Knudson
Hey List, this Allende has an inclusion and I really would like to know what
it is so I am sending this ebay link, not to show you this neat meteorite,
but to try to find out what you all think this inclusion could be, I am
dieing of curiosity!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=6523135359;
rd=1

Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteor?

2005-04-03 Thread Chris Peterson
This is impressive, considering that it was made almost 100 miles from the 
impact area. The video is very similar to one made 190 miles away from the 
2002.11.29 event over Montrose, Colorado.

Chris
*
Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com
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I just upload the video on my internet web-site, only 671.280 Kb.
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ParkForest.avi
Ciao

Francesco Moser
http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/
IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc
AAT www.astrofilitrentini.it
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Thousands of witnesses to the fireball, and at least one video.
Chris
Video ?
Anyone have it ? I want see..
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RE: [meteorite-list] impact melts

2005-04-03 Thread Frank Prochaska
I haven't seen a reply to your post yet, so I'll take a shot.

The terms chondrite and achondrite are not used to denote texture
any more.  They were originally coined for that purpose, but that was long
before the very accurate chemical analysis techniques we have today, and the
greater understanding of the formation of meteorites.
A chondrite is a meteorite that has a 'chondritic' composition, that
is a composition similar to that found in the Sun.  (This is assumed to be
the composition of protoplanetary disk, except for some changes due to a few
billion years of nuclear fusion.)  So a CI chondrite is still a chondrite
even though there are no chondrules to be seen.
An achondrite is a meteorite whose composition has been altered
significantly from the chondritic precursor material by, I guess I have to
call it geological processes.  In other words, they are differentiated
rocks.  Just completely melting a meteoroid doesn't make it an achondrite.
Something like a cumulate eucrite is essentially a basalt or lava rock that
can be found on Earth.  It formed from a precursor rock that was completely
melted and grains of particular minerals precipitated and settled out of the
melt, probably settling to the bottom of the magma chamber. Meanwhile other
material in the melt, with a different composition since the remaining
minerals would crystallize at a different temperature (different time),
would perhaps float on top and become a different rock above or perhaps be
drawn off or 'move' somewhere else while still fluid to crystallize
somewhere else etc.  A cumulate eucrite is a highly differentiated rock.
You can envision scenarios where a melt would differentiate slightly, but
not nearly so dramatically.  These would be a more primitive differentiated
rock or achondrite.

An impact melt is just that -- a rock that melted from an impact.  A
chondrite that melted from an impact is still a chondrite, because the bulk
composition has not changed, just the texture of the rock since it melted
and solidified again.  There are certainly impact melts that appear to be
entirely melted precursor material.  Happy Canyon was originally considered
an E6, then an E7, and now an E - impact melt (but a chondrite nonetheless).
A breccia is a rock that is made up of broken pieces of rock that
re-lithified some way or another.  A breccia could be made up entirely of
pieces of the same rock (pieces of the impact melt), or be a mixture of
pieces of different rocks (pieces of the melt, unmelted precursor material,
etc.).

Sorry for the long answer, but some background into why seemed
more useful than a yes or no.



Frank Prochaska




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are all impact melts breccias of melt and original matrix? if the matrix is 
totally melted is is still considered an impact melt, or does the stone 
become an achonderite (a non primative achonderite, young achonderite, etc)

thanks for any clarification


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Re: [meteorite-list] impact melts

2005-04-03 Thread Meteoryt.net
 Sorry for the long answer, but some background into why seemed
 more useful than a yes or no.

Thank You.
This was verry interesting, simple to understand and about meteorites. Not
too short, but also not too long. Just a core of this case. More emails like
this :)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Allende inclusion help!!!

2005-04-03 Thread McCartney Taylor
LOL.  Thats my ebay ad!  

The dark inclusion is refered to by Smithsonian's The Allende, 
Mexico meteor Shower, (Smithsonian Contributions to Earth 
Sciences -1970 no5 - They even show one on page 32) as a Dark 
Inclusion.  Yep, them Yankee scientists get awefully technical.

In the booklet, they show the composition of the Dark inclusion as 
showing higher than average FeO,  and NiS.  And half the average 
FeS.  Still, I have no idea what the real mineralogy is...

All I know is I recovered it on my 2002 expedition to Chihuahua.

-mt
 On 3 Apr 2005 at 10:09, Tom Knudson wrote:

 Hey List, this Allende has an inclusion and I really would like to know what
 it is so I am sending this ebay link, not to show you this neat meteorite,
   but to try to find out what you all think this inclusion could be, I am
   dieing of curiosity!
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3
239item=6523135359
   rd=1
  Thanks, Tom
   peregrineflier 
   IMCA 6168
   http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
   http://fstop.proboards24.com/
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] Allende inclusion help!!!

2005-04-03 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi Tom, McCartneyTaylor, and List,

 Hey List, this Allende has an inclusion and I really would like to know
 what it is so I am sending this ebay link, not to show you this neat
 meteorite, but to try to find out what you all think this inclusion could
 be, I am dieing of curiosity!

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=6523135359;
 rd=1

It is either a carbonaceous inclusion, a CO3 - a CO3 carbonaceous chondrite
within a CV3 carbonaceous chondrite. Maybe you remember the piece that the
Hupes offered on EBay until a few days ago and/or the pieces Eric Olson sold
in February/March 2004.

.. or, as McCartneyTaylor just wrote: an Allende dark inclusion.

 Still, I have no idea what the real mineralogy is...

HEYMANN D. et al. (1987) Carbon in dark inclusions of the
Allende meteorite (Meteoritics 22, 1987, 3-15, excerpt, p.3):

Dark inclusions (DI's) are among the major petrographic components of the
Allende meteorite; the others being: a fine-grained matrix of predominantly
olivine, chondrules, and irregular inclusions. DI's have also been called fine-
grained xenoliths. Their dimensions can be millimeters, and even centimeters.

The larger DI's can usually be recognized easily on cut surfaces of the Allende
meteorite because they appear darker than their surrounding areas, and are
often poor in chondrules or large irregular inclusions.

Fruland, Clanton, and Walton (1977) recognized three types of DI's:

(1) a black fine-grained matrix with few clasts and rare chondrules,
(2) a discontinuous, black, fine-grained matrix with abundant clasts
and chondrules, and
(3) densely packed clasts and chondrules with a small percentage
of discontinuous interstitial matrix.

Fruland (1978) reports SEM petrography on two lensoidal DI's: both display
sharp boundaries with the lighter Allende matrix; one has an approximately
60 µm wide, but discontinuous rim of Ca-rich silicates. Fruland notes that
these two DI's *consist primarily of silicates, metal, and sulfides*, with
grain sizes up to about 40 µm; hence, *coarser than matrix*. Fruland also
notes: Many clasts have a *dark 'accretionary' halo*.


Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] AD: more stuf sor sale

2005-04-03 Thread Lars Pedersen
Hi
here is some more stuf for sale.
Give me an offer.
NOTE.
From now on my adress is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The old adress will stop working.
Best
Lars
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[meteorite-list] Dark Inclusions

2005-04-03 Thread bernd . pauli
HUTCHISON R. (2004) Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and
Isotopic Synthesis (Cambridge Planetary Science Series, pp. 506, p. 92):

Dark inclusions or matrix lumps are present in the members of a number
of groups of the carbonaceous chondrites. The inclusions are mm-sized,
may be chondrule- and CAI-free and generally are phyllosilicate-rich with
magnetite and sulfide and are more aqueously altered than matrix. These
characteristics most closely resemble CI chondrites.


Best wishes,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Ad- Auctions ending Howardite, Park Forest etc.

2005-04-03 Thread Bob Evans
Hello,
I have several auctions ending soon. Howardite slice currently at $1.80/ 
gram and Park Forest piece also.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmaccers531
Thanks
Bob E 

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: more stuf sor sale+ link

2005-04-03 Thread Lars Pedersen
Ups...
here is the adress:
http://home20.inet.tele.dk/stargazer/
Lars
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Where??
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Hi
here is some more stuf for sale.
Give me an offer.
NOTE.
From now on my adress is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The old adress will stop working.
Best
Lars
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[meteorite-list] AD (Delete) Gold Basin Metorites

2005-04-03 Thread thetoprok
Good Evening List,
I have a few auctions about to end, thought I would let folks know.
 
http://search.ebay.com/Gold-Basin-meteorite_W0QQsojsZ1QQfromZR40

Thanks,
Larry
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