[meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Good morning list.I would like to wish the following meteorites a happy
birthday,Chatonnay,Uviedo,Petersburg,Andover,Ufana,and finally me.Today
all 6 of us have birthdays,some older than me thank the lord.Good day all!


  steve

 

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[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions just listed - Lunar, Mars and oriented

2005-08-05 Thread Jim Strope

Hi All...

I know you all enjoy ads so I though I would share some photos of auctions 
that I just listed on ebay:



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[meteorite-list] Mundrabilla Sale

2005-08-05 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hi folks,

I have some Mundrabilla for sale on my site if interested. All has been
approved for export.

http://www.meteorites.com.au/sale/Mundrabilla.html

Cheers,

Jeff

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Re: [meteorite-list] List policies and ad posts thoughts

2005-08-05 Thread AL Mitterling

Hi Michael,

One of the difficult things on the list is the fact people post using a 
thread and talking about something all together different. Although you 
are right on as far as use the topic in the subject box, people tend to 
stray off the topics when a new topic should be posted. I have been 
guilty of this myself but try to stay on topic.


Why I suggested a more basic approach to try to keep topics in line. 
Also it would be possible to use your filter system in a browser to move 
ads (if you don't like them) into the trash or put items like scientific 
conversation in another area that you could read. The only problem with 
this approach it is as good as the members who honor the topics approach.


--AL Mitterling
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Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread Gtceb
How pathetic.  Writing the list to wish HIMSELF a happy birthday.  BIG 
SSTTEEVVEEYY, I hope you took your birthday off from work to read a self help 
book.  
You are one sad sack. 
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[meteorite-list] OT: Skype

2005-08-05 Thread Meteoryt.net
Hello
I think that we should have possibility to contact each other also via
phone. So if anyone have any voice question for me Im avaiable via Skype
Internet telephony under POLANDMET nick.

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
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Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread Peter Marmet
Hallo anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

#1: Are you afraid to put your name under your text?
#2: If you have a problem with Steve, don't misuse the list!

Peter Marmet

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How pathetic.  Writing the list to wish HIMSELF a happy birthday.  BIG
 SSTTEEVVEEYY, I hope you took your birthday off from work to read a self help 
 book.
 You are one sad sack.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball video

2005-08-05 Thread Lars Pedersen
Looks like it only surfed on the athmophere, and continued into space 
again.


like the football daylight-fireball

Best
Lars
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball video



Hello List

Check out this fireball video.

Looks likes a daylight fireball.

Anyone knows anything about it, there or when?

http://www.wackyvids.com/movies/general/283/meteor.html

or

Wacky Vids web site
http://www.wackyvids.com/

pick Meteor


Keith V.
Chandler, AZ.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball video

2005-08-05 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 18:05:04 +0200, Lars Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Looks like it only surfed on the athmophere, and continued into space 
again.

like the football daylight-fireball

Best
Lars

Welcome back, Kot... er, Lars!
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[meteorite-list] Perseid Meteors to Peak August 11-13, 2005

2005-08-05 Thread Ron Baalke


Sky  Telescope
Cambridge, Massachusetts

Contact:
Alan MacRobert, Senior Editor
617-864-7360 x151

Marcy McCreary, VP Mktg.  Business Dev.
617-864-7360 x143

Press Release: August 4, 2005

Note to Editors/Producers: This release is accompanied by 
publication-quality illustrations and broadcast-quality animations; see 
details below.

Perseid Meteors to Peak August 11-13, 2005

The Perseid meteor shower, an annual celestial event beloved by millions 
of skywatchers around the world, returns to the night sky this coming 
week.

Sky  Telescope magazine predicts that the Perseid shower will reach its 
peak late on Thursday and Friday nights, August 11-12 and 12-13 (for 
viewers in North America). The rate of activity should pick up after 
midnight until the first light of dawn.

An observer under a dark sky might see more than 60 Perseids per hour 
between midnight and dawn. The first-quarter Moon sets by about midnight 
on these dates, so moonlight will not interfere.

You'll need no equipment but your eyes. The darker your sky, the better -- 
any artificial light pollution in your sky will reduce the number of 
meteors visible. But even if you live in an urban or suburban area, you 
have a good chance of seeing at least some meteors.

Find a dark spot with a wide-open view of the sky. Bring a reclining lawn 
chair and a sleeping bag; the bag not only provides warmth against the 
late-night chill but also serves as mosquito armor in this era of West 
Nile virus. Cover your remaining exposed parts (including hair and 
clothing) with an effective mosquito repellent.

Go out after about 11 or midnight or so, lie back, and gaze up at the 
stars, says Sky  Telescope senior editor Alan MacRobert. Relax, be 
patient, and let your eyes adapt to the dark. With a little luck you'll 
see a 'shooting star' at least every few minutes on average.

Perseids can appear anywhere and everywhere in the sky. So the best 
direction to watch is wherever your sky is darkest, probably straight up. 
Faint Perseids appear as tiny, quick streaks. Occasional brighter ones may 
sail across the heavens for several seconds and leave a brief train of 
glowing smoke.

If you trace each meteor's direction of flight backward far enough across 
the sky, you'll find that this imaginary line crosses a spot in the 
constellation Perseus, near Cassiopeia. This is the shower's radiant, the 
perspective point from which all the Perseids would appear to come if you 
could see them approaching from the far distance. The radiant is low in 
the north-northeast before midnight and rises higher in the northeast 
during the early-morning hours.

Don't give up if it's cloudy on the peak nights. The shower lasts for 
about two weeks, with good rates in the predawn hours of August 10th 
through 15th. (The radiant is always low or below the horizon for Southern 
Hemisphere countries like Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa; 
therefore few if any Perseids can ever be seen from these regions.)

The Perseid meteoroids are tiny, sand- to pea-size bits of rocky debris 
that were shed long ago by Comet Swift-Tuttle. This comet, like others, is 
slowly disintegrating as it orbits the Sun. Over the centuries, its 
crumbly remains have spread all along its 130-year orbit to form a sparse 
river of rubble hundreds of millions of miles long.

Earth's own path around the Sun carries us through this stream of 
particles every mid-August. The particles, or meteoroids, are traveling 37 
miles per second with respect to Earth at the place where we encounter 
them. So when one of them strikes the upper atmosphere (about 50 to 80 
miles up), it creates a quick, white-hot streak of superheated air.

For several years in the early 1990s the Perseids performed spectacularly, 
flaring with outbursts of up to hundreds of meteors visible per hour. The 
rubble streams responsible for these outbursts were probably shed during 
Comet Swift-Tuttle's swing by the Sun in 1862. In recent years, though, 
the shower has returned to normal.

More about the Perseids and how to watch them -- including how to make a 
scientific meteor count and where to report it -- appears in the August 
2005 issue of Sky  Telescope magazine and online in the articles listed 
at the end of this press release.

Sky  Telescope is pleased to make several publication-quality 
illustrations and broadcast-quality animations available to the news 
media. Permission is granted for one-time, nonexclusive use in print and 
broadcast media, as long as appropriate credits (as noted in each caption) 
are included. Web publication must include a link to SkyandTelescope.com .

Sky Publishing Corp. was founded in 1941 by Charles A. Federer Jr. and 
Helen Spence Federer, the original editors of Sky  Telescope magazine. 
The company's headquarters are in Cambridge, Massachusetts, near the 
Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. In addition to Sky  
Telescope and SkyandTelescope.com, the company publishes Night Sky 

[meteorite-list] AD - Elbogen sample

2005-08-05 Thread Dave Harris
HI,
I am open to offers for my piece of Elbogen (maybe around 0.1g?)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/d.harris580/Elbogen008.jpg

As you may know - this is the oldest recorded fall (1400) and has a
fascinating history!


Paypal only I guess!


Best!

dave
IMCA #0092 
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[meteorite-list] Good news: Lars is back !!!

2005-08-05 Thread bernd . pauli
Welcome back, Lars, and all the best to you and to your family !!!

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Earth's Surface Transformed by Three Massive Asteroid Impacts 3.2 Billion Years Ago

2005-08-05 Thread Ron Baalke

http://info.anu.edu.au/mac/Media/Media_Releases/_2005/_August/_050805glikson.asp
 
Earth's surface transformed by massive asteroids
Australian National University media release
August 5, 2005

A cluster of at least three asteroids between 20 and 50 kilometres
across colliding with Earth over 3.2 billion years ago caused a massive
change in the structure and composition of the earth's surface,
according to new research by ANU earth scientists.

According to Dr Andrew Glikson and Mr John Vickers from the Department
of Earth and Marine Sciences at ANU, the impact of these asteroids
triggered major earthquakes, faulting, volcanic eruption and deep-seated
magmatic activity and interrupted the evolution of parts of the Earth's
crust.

The research extends the original discovery of extraterrestrial impact
deposits, discovered in South Africa by two US scientists, D.R. Lowe and
G.R. Byerly, identifying their effects in the Pilbara region in Western
Australia.

Our findings are further evidence that the seismic aftershocks of these
massive impacts resulted in the abrupt termination of an over 300
million years-long evolutionary stage dominated by basaltic volcanic
activity and protracted accretion of granitic plutons, Dr Glikson said.

The identification of impact ejecta - materials ejected by the hitting
asteroid - is based on unique minerals and chemical and isotopic
compositions indicative of extraterrestrial origin, including iridium
anomalies.

The impact ejecta from the Barberton region in the eastern Transvaal
indicate the formation of impact craters several hundred kilometres in
diameter in oceanic regions of the earth, analogous to the lunar maria
basins (large dark impressions on the surface of the moon). The seismic
effects of the impacts included vertical block movements, exposure of
deep-seated granites and onset of continental conditions on parts of the
earth surface.

In the Pilbara, the formation of fault escarpments and fault troughs is
represented by collapse of blocks up to 250-metres wide and 150-metres
high, buried canyons and a major volcanic episode 3240 million years ago.

The precise coincidence of the faulting and igneous activity with the
impact deposits, coupled with the sharp break between basaltic crust and
continental formations, throws a new light on the role of asteroid
impacts in terrestrial evolution, Dr Glikson said.

Preliminary indications suggest that at about the same time the Moon was
also affected by asteroid impacts and by resurgent volcanic activity.

Dr Glikson and Mr Vickers will continue to investigate the extent and
effects of large asteroid impacts by studying early terrains in other
parts of the world, including India and Canada.

Further Information

Amanda Morgan
Media Liaison
Tel: 02 6125 5575 / 0416 249 245
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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[meteorite-list] persieds meteors

2005-08-05 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!
Hello list and good evening.Do not forget,next friday the 12th,is the
annual persied meteor swarm.It will be able to be seen in the
constellation of pegasus.Best viewing will be on the 12th,but viewing will
also be possible a day before the 12th,and a couple of days after.I like
to get the old binoculars and look at those old shooting stars.It usually
is quite the view.

  steve



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Re: [meteorite-list] persieds meteors

2005-08-05 Thread MexicoDoug
Steve A. (Elgin, IL) wrote:

Hello list and good evening.Do not forget,next friday the 12th,is  the
annual persied meteor swarm.It will be able to be seen in  the
constellation of pegasus.Best viewing will be on the 12th,but viewing  will
also be possible a day before the 12th,and a couple of days after.I  like
to get the old binoculars and look at those old shooting stars.It  usually
is quite the view.
 
Thanks Ron and Steve for the heads up.  I am not sure what Steve  (Elgin, IL) 
means about the shower of Tears of Saint Lawrence being  seen in Pegasus, 
though this is true and may be a nice view, these are the  Perseids, of course, 
and no constellation negotiated an  exclusive... 
 
Pegasus was born from Neptune's foamy seed and the blood of Medusa, who  used 
to be an object of Poseidon's  (Neptune) desire until they made love  in 
Athena's temple, defiling it and involking Athena's wrath.  When Perseus  had 
decapitated her as a sort of labor (Perseus was a grandfather of Hercules),  
and 
was then able to mount the flying horse to free sacrificial Andromeda, the  
daughter of the Vain!y Boastfu! African Queen Cassiopeia, Perseus and Pegasus  
are different constellations and there is little need to be constellation saavy 
 
if you casually want to join the fun.  The Great Square of Pegasus will  
probably be the most recognizable asterism two or three dozen degrees  (1/6 of 
the 
visible sky) above the radiant of the shower in Perseus  (between the very 
bright star Capella and Mars), and if  you pick the right  diagonal it will 
point there, but then again, so will the meteors!  Taurus,  Pisces, Cygnus (the 
bright cross also points to Perseus), and Draco, Aries,  Andromeda, and 
Cassiopeia (the obvious W) as well as the rest of the sky ought  to be good 
as well.
 
Queen Cassiopeia's W, near  the radiant, Capella and Mars form a  triangle 
around Perseus.  I wouldn't recommend binoculars unless they were  of the 
Cetus-eye variety (whale-eye lenses)...or after you've had your own  eyeful of 
the 
natural feel.  The Perseids are the kind of meteors that are  impressive by 
the unaided, alert, scanning and darting eye, if you can just find  a nice, 
reasonably dark spot! These are bright, fast meteors, and only someone  with 
Cowboy Charlie Brown would have the reflexes to grab the binocs and catch a  
meteor he first located with his eye.
 
Some nice nights ahead, now's the time to get a date with a companion  or 
two, to share in the fun...
Saludos, Doug
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Re: [meteorite-list] persieds meteors

2005-08-05 Thread David Freeman mjwy

On your car's birthday no less?
DF

Steve Arnold, Chicago!! wrote:


Hello list and good evening.Do not forget,next friday the 12th,is the
annual persied meteor swarm.It will be able to be seen in the
constellation of pegasus.Best viewing will be on the 12th,but viewing will
also be possible a day before the 12th,and a couple of days after.I like
to get the old binoculars and look at those old shooting stars.It usually
is quite the view.

 steve

   

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 



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Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread tett

Gtceb is a coward and a-hole.  That's all I get from this pathetic post.

I am sick and tired of the rancher that continues being directed at Chicago 
Steve.  Steve has greatly toned down his posts and has been very civil with 
no ill will directed at anyone.


All the people that continue to demean Steve are doing so to try and inflate 
their own pathetic egos.  Take it off the list and send your emails direct 
to Steve and leave the rest of the list out of it.  If any wish to chastise 
me now that I have said my piece then please do so but off list.


This list is about meteorites and related matters.  Lets get back to that.

Posted to the list in what is probably a wasted attempt to get these 
annoying outbursts stopped.


Mike Tettenborn
Owen Sound, Ontario


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How pathetic.  Writing the list to wish HIMSELF a happy birthday.  BIG
SSTTEEVVEEYY, I hope you took your birthday off from work to read a self 
help book.

You are one sad sack.
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Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread Gtceb
Dearest Mikey:

You are welcome to your opinion, but because I inadvertently left my name 
(Terry) off the list does not make me a coward or because I write to stop the 
list buf*o*n from writing does not (at least from 99.9% of the e-mail I get 
thanking me for my posts) make me an a-hole. But again, you, like me, are 
welcome 
to an opinion.  PS, my list post was an opinion, hint, hint ;-)  

This list is about meteorites and related matters.  Lets get back to that

That is exactly the reason why I write.  To stop the moronic BIG SSTTEEVEY 
posts. Check the archives.

Since you have clearly been hiding under your wet blanket for the last few 
years, check out the list archives for some insight into kind and gentle, MR. 
would-not-do-anything-wrong BIG SSTTEEVEY.  

All the people that continue to demean Steve are doing so to try and inflate 
their own pathetic egos.

Wrong again STTEEVEY friend.  Trying to protect a subject I am quite fond of 
(meteorites in case you did not know) , including this list and the brainpower 
behind it.  My ego is well in check and very unpathetic.  I own a world class 
meteorite collection and retired two years ago at age 43 after running a few 
companies.  I care very much about meteorites (some might call it protecting 
my investment) and stopping the occasional idiots that continually try to ruin 
things.  I have nothing to prove to anybody, including some off-base goofball 
like you that likes Big SSTTEEVEY.  But since you posted, I get to post my 
opinion AGAIN.  I am equally and simply tired of the do-gooders like you that 
occasionally come out of your pup-tents to support our infamous SSTTEEVEY.  
And, PS, I tried all the do-gooder things like writing him directly, hitting 
the 
delete key, et al.  Check the list archives again to find out why that doesn't 
work.  You can answer your own question. 

PS, when you talk to your SSTEVEY buddy next, tell him to post much less 
frequently and keep it meteorite related.  

All the best!

Terry 
StarMeteorites
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Re: [meteorite-list] persieds meteors

2005-08-05 Thread Norm Lehrman
All,

It is important to understand that the Persieds are
quite different from the Perseids.  There are two
accepted meanings.  Some hold that the persi- is
derived from persifler (to banter, i.e, good-
natured and usually witty animated discourse) + eds,
obviously a contracted form of educational system.  
Others argue that, in this context, it must come from
the Latin per (thoroughly)+sistere (to take a stand)
+ D's(with reference to the common ABCD grading
system).  Hence, Persieds becomes thoroughly founded
on solid Ds.

Just in case any were confused,

Norm

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steve A. (Elgin, IL) wrote:
 
 Hello list and good evening.Do not forget,next
 friday the 12th,is  the
 annual persied meteor swarm.It will be able to be
 seen in  the
 constellation of pegasus.Best viewing will be on
 the 12th,but viewing  will
 also be possible a day before the 12th,and a couple
 of days after.I  like
 to get the old binoculars and look at those old
 shooting stars.It  usually
 is quite the view.
  
 Thanks Ron and Steve for the heads up.  I am not
 sure what Steve  (Elgin, IL) 
 means about the shower of Tears of Saint Lawrence
 being  seen in Pegasus, 
 though this is true and may be a nice view, these
 are the  Perseids, of course, 
 and no constellation negotiated an  exclusive... 
  
 Pegasus was born from Neptune's foamy seed and the
 blood of Medusa, who  used 
 to be an object of Poseidon's  (Neptune) desire
 until they made love  in 
 Athena's temple, defiling it and involking Athena's
 wrath.  When Perseus  had 
 decapitated her as a sort of labor (Perseus was a
 grandfather of Hercules),  and 
 was then able to mount the flying horse to free
 sacrificial Andromeda, the  
 daughter of the Vain!y Boastfu! African Queen
 Cassiopeia, Perseus and Pegasus  
 are different constellations and there is little
 need to be constellation saavy  
 if you casually want to join the fun.  The Great
 Square of Pegasus will  
 probably be the most recognizable asterism two or
 three dozen degrees  (1/6 of the 
 visible sky) above the radiant of the shower in
 Perseus  (between the very 
 bright star Capella and Mars), and if  you pick the
 right  diagonal it will 
 point there, but then again, so will the meteors! 
 Taurus,  Pisces, Cygnus (the 
 bright cross also points to Perseus), and Draco,
 Aries,  Andromeda, and 
 Cassiopeia (the obvious W) as well as the rest of
 the sky ought  to be good as well.
  
 Queen Cassiopeia's W, near  the radiant, Capella
 and Mars form a  triangle 
 around Perseus.  I wouldn't recommend binoculars
 unless they were  of the 
 Cetus-eye variety (whale-eye lenses)...or after
 you've had your own  eyeful of the 
 natural feel.  The Perseids are the kind of meteors
 that are  impressive by 
 the unaided, alert, scanning and darting eye, if you
 can just find  a nice, 
 reasonably dark spot! These are bright, fast
 meteors, and only someone  with 
 Cowboy Charlie Brown would have the reflexes to grab
 the binocs and catch a  
 meteor he first located with his eye.
  
 Some nice nights ahead, now's the time to get a date
 with a companion  or 
 two, to share in the fun...
 Saludos, Doug
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Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 20:07:26 -0400, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am sick and tired of the rancher that continues being directed at Chicago 
Steve.  

But what if it is a JOLLY rancher?
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Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread tett

Good one!  Rancour (or rancor in the US?).  Damn spell checker.

tett
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On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 20:07:26 -0400, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am sick and tired of the rancher that continues being directed at Chicago
Steve.


But what if it is a JOLLY rancher?
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Re: [meteorite-list] august 5th meteorites

2005-08-05 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 5 Aug 2005 22:32:25 -0400, tett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Good one!  Rancour (or rancor in the US?).  Damn spell checker.


Yes, I can see how it is much worse to direct a rancor at someone than direct a 
rancher:

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/zoology/rancor.html
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[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes should be up in a day or two

2005-08-05 Thread Paul Harris

Hello everyone!

We're just waiting for a couple of items before we can post the August 
MeteoriteTimes.


Most of you probably already know about the site below but if not it's 
quite a feeling to
see the shuttle and ISS moving across the night sky.  The times have not 
been favorable

for us in the Northern Hemisphere but the sight is worth it.
http://www.heavens-above.com

One of my favorite times was with my oldest daughter and some of her 
friends.  As the ISS
move across the night sky one of her friends exclaimed, Wow it's so 
bright!  How many

lights do they have on in there?

Clear Skies!

Paul



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Re: [meteorite-list] Earth's Surface Transformed by Three MassiveAsteroid Imp...

2005-08-05 Thread MexicoDoug
Hola Tracy, since moon rocks are up to 3.8 or  4.0 billion years old or maybe 
someone can correct that upward, the theory it is  commonly over 4 billion 
years ago.  I don't know if more precision is  available, but the crust would 
have formed after the collision so we are looking  at after Earth formation, 
say 4.4 billion years ago, to before Moon crust  formation 4.0 billion years.  
Averaging it out for no particular reason  give 4.2 billion years ago for the 
Moon coalescence - plenty before  3.2 billion years, though who knows about 
over 3.2 billion years referenced in  the news-short, at first glance...
Saludos, Doug

Tracy L.  wrote:
Someone please refresh my memory -- about how long ago was the  theorized 
impact that tore loose the Moon from the proto-Earth?   This sounds like it 
happened after the Moon had coalesced enough to be a  single solid.

Tracy Latimer

From: Ron Baalke  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:  [meteorite-list] Earth's Surface Transformed by Three 
MassiveAsteroid  Impacts 3.2 Billion Years Ago
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:47:36 -0700  (PDT)


http://info.anu.edu.au/mac/Media/Media_Releases/_2005/_August/_050805glikson.
asp

Earth's  surface transformed by massive asteroids
Australian National University  media release
August 5, 2005

A cluster of at least three  asteroids between 20 and 50 kilometres
across colliding with Earth over  3.2 billion years ago caused a massive
change in the structure and  composition of the earth's surface,
according to new research by ANU  earth  scientists.



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[meteorite-list] Interesting page with a meteorite tie-in at the bottom

2005-08-05 Thread Darren Garrison
Ran across this page-- the meteorite connection comes in only at the end, but 
it's still a very
interesting story (IMHO)

http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Stories/077.x3/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Earth's Surface Transformed by ThreeMassiveAsteroid Impacts 3.2 Billion Years Ago

2005-08-05 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Tracy, List,

   The current theory of the Moon's origin
is a grazing impact on the Earth by a
Mars-sized (or better) object before 4410
millilon years ago. That date comes from
the existence of the genesis zircon found
in Australia a few years ago. The oldest
date would be, well, pretty much the
OLDEST date for anything from Earth or
Moon, 4565 millilon years ago.
The impact, as modelled by computer,
doesn't have anything being knocked off
the Earth. The impacting body fragments
entirely and rebounds from Earth; the
Earth's crust and mantle re-melts a
second time, having gone through all
this the first time it was formed; the
iron core of the impactor sinks into
the Earth and joins our core; the rest
of the impactor and a lot of debris
from the Earth end up in a disk around
the Earth like Saturn's Rings only more so.
All this stuff accretes into the Moon
or is dispersed. That it was a real hot
event is shown by the fact that the Moon
is the driest body in the solar system,
all water and gases driven off, and rich
in refractory elements like titanium.
In other words, about a billion years
or more before the big impacts described
below. Seems like the hits just keep on
coming...

Sterling Webb
---
tracy latimer wrote:

 Someone please refresh my memory -- about how long ago was the theorized
 impact that tore loose the Moon from the proto-Earth?  This sounds like it
 happened after the Moon had coalesced enough to be a single solid.

 Tracy Latimer

 From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com (Meteorite Mailing List)
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Earth's Surface Transformed by Three
 MassiveAsteroid Impacts 3.2 Billion Years Ago
 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:47:36 -0700 (PDT)
 
 
 http://info.anu.edu.au/mac/Media/Media_Releases/_2005/_August/_050805glikson.asp
 
 Earth's surface transformed by massive asteroids
 Australian National University media release
 August 5, 2005
 
 A cluster of at least three asteroids between 20 and 50 kilometres
 across colliding with Earth over 3.2 billion years ago caused a massive
 change in the structure and composition of the earth's surface,
 according to new research by ANU earth scientists.
 

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