[meteorite-list] Launch complex 13 comes down
Hi all, Launch complex 13 at Cape Canaveral has been demolished, a tad overdue, since it has not been used since 1978. Launch complex 13 was used to launch Lunar Orbiter missions as well as Atlas/Agena flights. May I suggest to NASA, that instead of dumping it all in a landfill, key components be cut up and auctioned on eBay. The funds raised would supply coffee and doughnuts at CAPCOM for years. :-P Kevin, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Launch complex 13 comes down
Hi all, Launch complex 13 at Cape Canaveral has been demolished, a tad overdue, since it has not been used since 1978. Launch complex 13 was used to launch Lunar Orbiter missions as well as Atlas/Agena flights. May I suggest to NASA, that instead of dumping it all in a landfill, key components be cut up and auctioned on eBay. The funds raised would supply coffee and doughnuts at CAPCOM for years. :-P Kevin, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 2 New Desert Irons - WITH Pictures links
Dear List Members, I would like to share pictures of two new Sahara Desert irons I brought back from my last trip. One may be paired to NWA 854 Ziz and weighs 2016 grams (picture 'desertIron1.jpg'). It is very fresh, flow lines and crust are visible, along with a bluish hue to the entire specimen. See here: http://www.lunarrock.com/irons/desertIron1.jpg The other one, which I was told came from Algeria or Mauritania, is quite sculptural and stands up by itself. This one has been in the desert longer but is a great display piece. I do not know what type of iron meteorite this is and do not plan to cut or even polish a window for a look. This one weighs 5045 grams (picture 'desertIron2.jpg'). See here: http://www.lunarrock.com/irons/desertIron2.jpg I will not be cutting either one. Enjoy the pics. Sorry about the first lost, I accidentally attached the photos instead of providing links. Best regards, Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Space Shuttle Launch Delayed to Fall 2006 ??
Storm left space agency 'beaten up' Many workers at 2 shuttle facilities are now homeless, By MARK CARREAU, Houston Chronicle http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3345948 + Hurricane Damage May Delay Launch of Shuttle From Associated Press, September 9, 2005 http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-shuttle9sep09,1,3156457.story?coll=la-headlines-nation Griffin downplayed an internal memo written Sept. 1 by acting shuttle program manager N. Wayne Hale Jr., who indicated that a launch before fall 2006 might not be possible given the hurricane damage and the ongoing effort to prevent foam insulation from falling off shuttle fuel tanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT. Complex 13 and ET foam
Perhaps NASA could raise funds for their homeless workers by selling bits of complex 13, or funds for Katrina relief, in a hurry. Why don't they wrap the ET tank where the foam breaks away with very light and super strong, carbon fibre sheets? I know I don't know a lot about intricate problems that I am not involved with. I am sure someone has a brilliant response to the ET tank statement. Kevin, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Police seize meteorites
Looks like some SA got seized in Poland. http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/other_ news/articleid=250483 -- McCartneyTaylor, IMCA 2760 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] PV and Lunar-New Photos and Links
Hi Robert, I was looking at your Dhofar 1180 page: http://www.portalesvalleymeteorites.com/Lunar.htm And was intrigued by the moon phase gif. On my computer it was cycling faster than once per second. At this speed, it is obvious there is other motion and rotation active in the composite. Forgetting about other photography//computer issues, it appears, taking the gif at face value of course, that one can easily see some rolling back and forth of the visible lunar surface, some precession, and some distance changing between the earth (photographer) and the moon. Just an early morning observation. Oh, great pics of great meteorites as well! Martin --- Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, I have just updated my website with new photos and links that I hope/believe a lot of you would find interesting and enjoy seeing, even if you are not presently looking to add to your collection. ( But IF you are, well, that would be fine, too. ;-) I would welcome any thoughts or comments on the new photos and links. Best wishes, Robert Woolard http://www.portalesvalleymeteorites.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
Just in from a South African newspaper: http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/other_news/articleid=250483 byline Warsaw Customs officers in Dorohusk, on Poland's border with Ukraine, have made an unusual seizure, confiscating nearly 530kg of meteorites they found hidden on a Russian-registered truck, officials said on Friday. In total, 529,5kg of meteorites were confiscated, including three very big ones, weighing 176 kilos, 150 kilos and 80 kilos, Poland's customs service said in a statement. They probably came from the same place in Siberia where a meteorite crashed in 1947, the statement said. According to the truck's payload ledgers, its cargo was quartzite, a tough stone composed almost entirely of quartz grains, derived from sandstone. The truck was bound for the Czech Republic. Chauncey __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
I guess they should have said it was scrap metal, instead of quartz! ;] This should drive the price up a bit, eh? Cheers, Pete From: Chauncey Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:12:00 -0600 Just in from a South African newspaper: http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/other_news/articleid=250483 byline Warsaw Customs officers in Dorohusk, on Poland's border with Ukraine, have made an unusual seizure, confiscating nearly 530kg of meteorites they found hidden on a Russian-registered truck, officials said on Friday. In total, 529,5kg of meteorites were confiscated, including three very big ones, weighing 176 kilos, 150 kilos and 80 kilos, Poland's customs service said in a statement. They probably came from the same place in Siberia where a meteorite crashed in 1947, the statement said. According to the truck's payload ledgers, its cargo was quartzite, a tough stone composed almost entirely of quartz grains, derived from sandstone. The truck was bound for the Czech Republic. Chauncey __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
Where is the problem? Marcin, since when it's illegal to import meteorites to Poland? They should pay the taxes at customs and that's it. Meow! Tiiickets, tickets, tckets! Sooon will be deadline! Buy Tiickets!! - Original Message - From: Chauncey Walden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized Just in from a South African newspaper: http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/other_news/articl eid=250483 byline Warsaw Customs officers in Dorohusk, on Poland's border with Ukraine, have made an unusual seizure, confiscating nearly 530kg of meteorites they found hidden on a Russian-registered truck, officials said on Friday. In total, 529,5kg of meteorites were confiscated, including three very big ones, weighing 176 kilos, 150 kilos and 80 kilos, Poland's customs service said in a statement. They probably came from the same place in Siberia where a meteorite crashed in 1947, the statement said. According to the truck's payload ledgers, its cargo was quartzite, a tough stone composed almost entirely of quartz grains, derived from sandstone. The truck was bound for the Czech Republic. Chauncey __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Polish Customs Seize Huge Haul of Meteorites Smuggled out of Russia
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/09/09/meteor.shtml Polish Customs Seize Huge Haul of Meteorites Smuggled out of Russia MosNews September 9, 2005 Customs officers in Dorohusk, on Poland's border with Ukraine, have made an unusual seizure, confiscating nearly 530kg of meteorites they found hidden in a Russian-registered truck, the AFP reported on Friday citing local officials. In total, 529.5kg of meteorites were confiscated, including three very big ones, weighing 176 kilos, 150 kilos and 80 kilos, Poland's customs service said in a statement. They probably came from the same place in Siberia where a meteorite crashed in 1947, the statement said. According to the truck's payload ledgers, its cargo was quartzite, a tough stone composed almost entirely of quartz grains, derived from sandstone. The truck was bound for the Czech Republic. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:57:55 +0200, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the problem? Marcin, since when it's illegal to import meteorites to Poland? They should pay the taxes at customs and that's it. In the book Meteorite Hunter it seemed that collecting Sikhote-Alin for exporting and selling was strictly a black-market thing, officially disallowed by the Russian government (see page 80 if you have a copy). Has that situation changed since then? If so, maybe that is the issue. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
Where is the problem? I have no idea :-/ Marcin, since when it's illegal to import meteorites to Poland? They should pay the taxes at customs and that's it. I think they should first pay to customs oficers for not look inside truck :) This year its 3rd time when polish customs confiscated meteorites/fosils/minerals from people comes from east. January and March event hit one of our biggest Russina friend. First customs holded parcel of fossils and meteorites in bus (destination Germany). Next time they hold minerals/fossils/meteorites (brahin, droninos, etc.) in train Moscov-Berlin. Specialist from Warsaw say, that value of 1kg of Brahin is 50 000zl = 12.500euro :) No comment. So I suggest use post, DHL etc. Remember that Polish east border is east border of European Union so they are crazy there. Every unusual thing they find its propably thing that people from east try smuggle into EU territory and sell in Germany. I dont know what law was broken or what happend. Ofcourse this time specimens was hidden under quartzite. But first 2 events was different. Meteorites was declared to customs. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
Gosh - alcool and cigarettes, gas ect. I can understand, because of the high differences in the height of taxes, but meteorites? If I get a parcel from elsewhere outside from EU and the customs takes a look inside, I have to pay normal VAT of 16%, no matter what stuff it is. Well I heard, that some people are consuming meteorites, but it's not directly a drug, nor do exist special laws for them in Schengen-country. (at customs office they are always a little desperate, because they don't know to which kind of goods they should group meteorites for the paper work, mostly, as I explain them, that they contain iron, they decide to number it as industrial slag, waste). As Poland is part of the EU, I have no idea, why or that there should exist an extra national law. Uuuh, does that mean, if I'll decide to repatriate my Baszkowka slice to Poland, because noone wanted to buy it, that they will throw me in prison? Marcin you have to promise to visit me there with a loaf of bread and a saw made of ureilite inside By the way, did I mention, that there will be raffle going on soon and that there are some tiickets left? Buckleboo! Martin - Original Message - From: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized Where is the problem? I have no idea :-/ Marcin, since when it's illegal to import meteorites to Poland? They should pay the taxes at customs and that's it. I think they should first pay to customs oficers for not look inside truck :) This year its 3rd time when polish customs confiscated meteorites/fosils/minerals from people comes from east. January and March event hit one of our biggest Russina friend. First customs holded parcel of fossils and meteorites in bus (destination Germany). Next time they hold minerals/fossils/meteorites (brahin, droninos, etc.) in train Moscov-Berlin. Specialist from Warsaw say, that value of 1kg of Brahin is 50 000zl = 12.500euro :) No comment. So I suggest use post, DHL etc. Remember that Polish east border is east border of European Union so they are crazy there. Every unusual thing they find its propably thing that people from east try smuggle into EU territory and sell in Germany. I dont know what law was broken or what happend. Ofcourse this time specimens was hidden under quartzite. But first 2 events was different. Meteorites was declared to customs. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
(first post didn't seem to show up-- sorry if this is a repeat) On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:57:55 +0200, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the problem? Marcin, since when it's illegal to import meteorites to Poland? They should pay the taxes at customs and that's it. In the book Meteorite Hunter it seemed that collecting Sikhote-Alin for exporting and selling was strictly a black-market thing, officially disallowed by the Russian government (see page 80 if you have a copy). Has that situation changed since then? If so, maybe that is the issue. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
Hehe, with the ownerless parcel, I'm sure you would have risen the finger in the bus! There are at least 3 meteorite sellers in Poland, Marcin. Marcin Cimala, the polish polisher! Andrzej Pilski, one of world's best iron preparator. Slawomir Derecki, excellent jewelery. Not the stuff, where they just drill a hole in a Sikhote, ready is the pendant and not that rings and bands, where the gold plating will fall off after year from the Gibeon below. He's an examined craftsman and artist, designs also according your own propositions. Highly recommended! Not to forget Gregor Pacer, sometimes selling also in Poland, who finally discovered US-ebay, supplying the bidders with rare names. Cheeers, and don't forget to buy your tickets, folks! Martin My friend is a miner, he works in a hole.(a song I had to learn in my english lessons) - Original Message - From: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized As Poland is part of the EU, I have no idea, why or that there should exist an extra national law. Its my personal maybe opinion, but first time in january this was smuggling. In bus was parcell full of minerals and meteorites WITHOUT owner. Someone give driver parcel and someone in Berlin take it and pay to driver. So when customs ask what it is, who is owner etc. noone answered so they take it. In march persons declared (the same border transit) that they have meteorites (train Moskva-Berlin). But customs then know, acha, meteorites, expensive things, some time ago we confiscated them, so why not this time :))) So finally customs now know more about meteorites, about their value (remember value of 1kg brahin 12.5K euro). I dont know if there is any special law that fit to meteorites and minerals. I think they take any other laws. I really dont know. For us there is verry strange. Uuuh, does that mean, if I'll decide to repatriate my Baszkowka slice to Poland, because noone wanted to buy it, that they will throw me in prison? Martin now You know why we are only 2 persons in Poland who sell meteorites. Becouse we have hold all strings :) Every other dealers sit in prisons or work in deep mines looking for next lake murray. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] PV and Lunar-New Photos and Links
Hi, Martin The other motions you are seeing are NUTATION and LIBRATION. The Moon has a very complex set of motions about the Earth. These allow us to see over the edges and actually view, however obliquely, more than the 50% you'd think we could. The Moon nods its head and turns side to side as it approaches and recedes from the Earth. The complexity of the Moon's motion has been a boon to the development of celecstial mechanics over the last three centuries. The ultimate statement of an orbit is called the Time Equation, which will allow us to predict the exact position and motion of a body at a given point in time, past or future. Because the Time Equation for the Moon is decidedly difficult, trying to work it out has sharpened the wits of celectial mechanics for several centuries. Without the Moon's complex behavior to explain, we wouldn't know as much as we do about celestial motion calculation. Writing the time equation of the Moon's orbit is perhaps the most daunting task that faced applied mathematics in the past few centuries. The last word in this immense job is the work of E. W. Brown and W. J. Eckert, Brown working on paper for his entire life and Eckert applying the Brown equation to execution with early computers. Since 1923 the work of E W Brown has constituted the basis for the published ephemerides of the moon. His monumental calculation, which occupied most of his lifetime, consists of two distinct steps. The first is the development of the theory or the solution of the differential equations of motion expressing the coordinates of the moon as explicit functions of time. Secondly, in order to reduce the necessary labor involved in computing the coordinates of the moon for any given date from these formulae, Brown computed from his theory a set of Tables which, including the necessary explanations, comprise over 650 large quarto pages. ... In order to bring the Tables within even their present length, various parts of the basic equations were curtailed whenever permissible in the light of observational requirements (as then visualised). However by the 1950s it was realised that the Tables were not accurate enough. Eckert therefore decided not to recompute new tables but to compute the ephemeris directly from Brown's equations. The task was immense for, Brown's formulae involved some 1,650 trigonometric terms, many of them with variable coefficients. The accuracy of Eckert's calculations of the Moon's orbit was so good that in 1965 he was able to correctly show that there was a concentration of mass near the lunar surface. In 1967 he produced theoretical work which improved on Brown's theory of the Moon. The Eckert program is so immense that until recently it took WEEKS of computer time to run. In 1997, both the Brown equation (published in seven volumes! Brown, Ernest, W. Tables of the Motion of the Moon, Yale Univ. Press, 1919) and the Eckert revision were run checked on supercomputers that were able to zip through them in ONLY 17 hours of continuous operation! Only two totally trivial errors were found in Brown's lifelong work and only one (misprint) in Eckert's computer program. The second most daunting task is Milancovitch's calculation of the changes in the Earth's orbit with time and its climatological consequences (the Ice Ages), again done entirely on paper (without any mistakes) and occupying his entire working life time. The original animation, much larger, was an APOD some years ago, but I can't find it in their index. Sterling K. Webb see: www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/ ~history/Mathematicians/Eckert_Wallace.html - Martin H. wrote: Hi Robert, I was looking at your Dhofar 1180 page: http://www.portalesvalleymeteorites.com/Lunar.htm And was intrigued by the moon phase gif. On my computer it was cycling faster than once per second. At this speed, it is obvious there is other motion and rotation active in the composite. Forgetting about other photography//computer issues, it appears, taking the gif at face value of course, that one can easily see some rolling back and forth of the visible lunar surface, some precession, and some distance changing between the earth (photographer) and the moon. Just an early morning observation. Oh, great pics of great meteorites as well! Martin --- Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, I have just updated my website with new photos and links that I hope/believe a lot of you would find interesting and enjoy seeing, even if you are not presently looking to add to your collection. ( But IF you are, well, that would be fine, too. ;-) I would welcome any thoughts or comments on the new photos and links. Best wishes, Robert Woolard http://www.portalesvalleymeteorites.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
Gosh - alcool and cigarettes, gas ect. I can understand, because of the high differences in the height of taxes, but meteorites? If I get a parcel from elsewhere outside from EU and the customs takes a look inside, I have to pay normal VAT of 16%, no matter what stuff it is. Well I heard, that some people are consuming meteorites, but it's not directly a drug, nor do exist special laws for them in Schengen-country. When I thinked about this a little longet than 5 mili seconds, customs have strong reasons. A) material was hidden and not declared. B) this was not 5kg Sikhote. There was specimens for half ton ! C) specimens with numbers, so this show clear that comes from any official collection/museims and not from field. D) meteorites are expensive so this was a big smugglers event. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized
Meteorites are expensive Not at all. What would be a maximum selling price for a 150kg Sikhote-shrapnel? Like an acceptable Darjeeling Tea? 30$/kg Like prosciutto di Parma? 40$/kg Like a good malt whisky? 50$/kg Like a lobster? 60$/kg Like truffles? 2000$/kg (wow, I'm in the wrong branch. Hl piggy, heel!) Like Beluga caviar? 3000$/kg Like mouse milk (for 1kg you need 4000 mice)? 50.000$/kg All that I can eat in a few weeks, but a meteorite lasts a whole live long. Gosh meteorites are so rare, but so dirt cheap in the last years. Except the New Orleans fall! 5.8grams! - Better buy some more tickets for the raffle!!! Buckleboo PS: A) their fault B) doesn't matter, a good is a good. C) who knows? That could be an issue. D) see above - Original Message - From: Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote' s seized Gosh - alcool and cigarettes, gas ect. I can understand, because of the high differences in the height of taxes, but meteorites? If I get a parcel from elsewhere outside from EU and the customs takes a look inside, I have to pay normal VAT of 16%, no matter what stuff it is. Well I heard, that some people are consuming meteorites, but it's not directly a drug, nor do exist special laws for them in Schengen-country. When I thinked about this a little longet than 5 mili seconds, customs have strong reasons. A) material was hidden and not declared. B) this was not 5kg Sikhote. There was specimens for half ton ! C) specimens with numbers, so this show clear that comes from any official collection/museims and not from field. D) meteorites are expensive so this was a big smugglers event. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite collection SOLD
Well, it is official, I have sold my entire meteorite collection to none other than Matt Morgan. We spent last night in Denver going through the collection and setting it up at Matt's home. I still have a few pieces, but not much. Panama, here I come! Here is a photo of Matt and I setting up his case with all his new meteorites. http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/matt_mike.jpg. I will be back in Denver next week, prowling around the show there, so I hope to see many of you there. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FAA Investigates Another Piece Of Mysterious Falling Ice in California
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/4948785/detail.html FAA Investigates Another Piece Of Mysterious Falling Ice Man Believes Ice Fell On His Home From Air Traffic Overhead NBC 4 TV News September 8, 2005 FONTANA, Calif. -- Federal air safety officials are investigating another possible case of something falling from an airplane onto a house in Moreno Valley. This time, it is expected that that chunk of ice may have fallen off an airplane onto a house. From the inside of the Peter Carlucci home, there is a barely visible patch of water damage on the ceiling. But there was no mistaking the earth-shattering noise. It shook the house. I came home and took a look. I didn't see anything. And then, a neighbor of mine pointed out I had a hole in the roof, Carlucci said. When Carlucci climbed on his roof to investigate, he found smashed clay tiles and a gaping 3-foot hole. The plywood was splintered and the attic insulation was soaking wet. I think it's a piece of ice or something from a plane that flies from air traffic overhead, Carlucci said. He believes he is a victim of falling ice, like Johnny Worthy was in Fontana previously. The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating where a large ice ball could have come from that smashed into Worthy's living room last month. Like Carlucci, Worthy is near the flight pattern of a major airport. They come overhead all day at a high altitude, on the way to LAX Airport. They could have fallen off the plane, I'm not sure, Carlucci said. While the FAA investigates, Carlucci is relieved that the mystery object fell on the roof and not on his children. The FAA is investigating the origin of the ice. Pilots told NBC4 that it is not uncommon for ice to form on parts of the aircraft at high altitudes. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Work Continues on the Solar System's Three Recently Discovered Kuiper Belt Objects
http://pr.caltech.edu/media/Press_Releases/PR12734.html Work Continues on the Solar System's Three Recently Discovered Objects Caltech News Release September 8, 2005 CAMBRIDGE, England--When planetary scientists announced on July 29 that they had discovered a new planet larger than Pluto, the news overshadowed the two other objects the group had also found. But all three objects are odd additions to the solar system, and as such could revolutionize our understanding of how our part of the celestial neighborhood evolved. To the discoverers, the objects still go by the unofficial code-names Santa, Easterbunny, and Xena, though they are officially known to the International Astronomical Union as 2003 EL61, 2005 FY9, and 2003 UB313. The three objects were all detected with the 48-inch Samuel Oschin Telescope at Palomar Observatory by a team composed of planetary scientists from the California Institute of Technology, the Gemini Observatory, and Yale University. Xena is the object the group describes as one of sufficient size to be called the tenth planet. All three objects are nearly Pluto-sized or larger, and all are in elliptical orbits tilted out of the plane of the solar system, says Mike Brown, a professor of planetary astronomy at Caltech and leader of the effort. We think that these orbital characteristics may mean that they were all formed closer to the sun, and then were tossed around by the giant planets before they ended up with the odd orbits they currently have, Brown adds. The other two members of the team are Chad Trujillo, a former postdoctoral researcher at Caltech and currently an astronomer at the Gemini Observatory in Hawaii, and David Rabinowitz of Yale University. Trujillo has led the spectrographic studies of the discoveries, while Rabinowitz is one of the builders of the instrument affixed to the Oschin Telescope for the study, and has led the effort to understand the color and spin of the objects. Santa, Easterbunny, and Xena are all members of the Kuiper belt, a region beyond the orbit of Neptune that for decades was merely a hypothetical construct based on the behavior of comets, among other factors. But astronomers began detecting objects in the mid-1990s, and the Kuiper belt was suddenly a reality rather than a hypothesis. Xena, which is currently about 97 astronomical units from the sun (an astronomical unit being the 93-million-mile distance between the sun and Earth), is at least the size of Pluto and almost certainly significantly larger. The researchers are able to determine its smallest possible size because, thanks to the laws of motion, they know very accurately the distance of the planet from the sun. And because they also know very precisely how much light the planet gives off, they can also calculate the diameter of the planet as if it were reflecting sunlight as a uniformly white ball in the sky. Hence, a perfectly round mirror at that distance would be the size of Pluto. However, the question remains how well the new planet reflects light. The less reflective its surface, the bigger it must be to put out enough light to be detected here on Earth. At any rate, the researchers hope that infrared data returned by the Spitzer Space Telescope over the weekend of August 27-28, in addition to recently obtained data from the 30-meter IRAM telescope in Spain, will help nail down Xena's size. In much the same way that the detected visible light sets a lower limit on the diameter, the infrared radiation detected by the Spitzer will ideally set an upper limit. That's because the Spitzer is capable of measuring the total amount of heat given off by the planet; and because the researchers know the likely surface temperature is about 405 degrees below zero Fahrenheit, they can infer the overall size of the body. Brown predicts that Xena will likely be highly reflective, because the spectrographic data gathered by his colleague and codiscoverer Chad Trujillo at the Gemini Observatory show the surface to have a similar composition to that of the highly reflective Pluto. If indeed Xena reflects 70 percent of the sunlight reaching it, as does Pluto, then Xena is about 2700 kilometers in diameter. And then there's the matter of naming the new planet, which is pretty much in the hands of the International Astronomical Union. Brown says the matter is in committee limbo: while one IAU committee is taking its time deciding whether or not it is a planet, other committees have to wait until they know what it is before they can consider a name. So for the time being, the discoverers keep calling the new planet Xena, though the name will sooner or later change. The second of the objects, currently nicknamed Santa because Brown and his colleagues found it on December 28, 2004, is one of the more bizarre objects in the solar system, according to Rabinowitz. His observations from a small telescope in Chile show that Santa is a fast-rotating cigar-shaped body that is about the
[meteorite-list] Study Indicates Ceres May Have Water-Ice Mantle
http://www.swri.org/9what/releases/2005/ceres.htm Study indicates largest body in asteroid belt may have water-ice mantle Southwest Research Institute (SwRI) News September 8, 2005 Boulder, Colo. -- September 8, 2005 -- A new study of Ceres, the largest known object in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, shows evidence of a planet-like round shape and a surprisingly complex internal structure, with a rocky core possibly surrounded by a mantle rich in water-ice. The study, to be reported September 8 in a letter to the journal Nature by investigators from Cornell University, Southwest Research Institute (SwRI), the University of Maryland, University of California at Los Angeles and the Planetary Science Institute in Tucson, Ariz., used Hubble Space Telescope images made during observations in December 2003 and January 2004 to examine surface features of the asteroid in reflected sunlight, study its rotational properties and search for any small moons. The paper is led by Dr. Peter C. Thomas of the Center for Radiophysics and Space Research at Cornell University. The project was funded by NASA through the Space Telescope Science Institute. This is the first time we have seen Ceres in such detail and can even say something about its interior, said the project team's leader, Dr. Joel Parker, assistant director of SwRI's Space Studies Department. You can watch it rotate in our observations, and you get the feeling of it being a whole new world, not just a bit of rocky debris. Differences in surface features among asteroids preserve a record of how the asteroid belt evolved between the earliest days of the solar system and about 4.6 billion years ago, when Jupiter's growing gravitational pull halted the accretion of bodies in the asteroid belt. Some asteroids, like 4 Vesta, the second-most massive body in the asteroid belt, have a crust, mantle and core, indicating that they experienced sufficient thermal evolution to differentiate into layered structures. Other asteroids appear more homogeneous, similar to carbonaceous meteorites that have undergone only minimal thermal processing. In the past, Ceres -- about the size of Texas at 580 miles across -- was placed in this latter category, in part because of its low density, its low albedo or heat signature, and its relatively featureless visible reflectance. However, the new study indicates that Ceres' round shape and smoothness resemble more that of a gravitationally relaxed object, or one whose shape is determined by hydrostatic equilibrium. If so, it would be the only asteroid thus far to be characterized in that way. Also, its shape is more flattened than would be expected of a homogeneous object, but consistent with a central mass concentration indicating a layered makeup. The relaxed state, differentiated structure and mean density observed on Ceres strongly suggest water-ice as the primary mantle constituent. Unlike the icy moons of Jupiter and Saturn, however, the higher heating available at Ceres' distance from the sun makes water-ice unstable at the surface. If water-ice has been at the surface of Ceres, it may currently hide just below a thin residual layer of clay and dark carbonaceous materials. Editors: A movie showing the rotation of Ceres is available at http://www.swri.org/press/2005/ceres.htm . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 9, 2005
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Moonstruck - sol 591-598, Sept 09, 2005: Spirit is in good health, power positive, and has no issues. This week the telecom team changed Spirit's uplink rate from 1000 bits per second to 2000 bits per second. In its orbit around the Sun, Mars comes close to Earth for a few months once every two years. Mars is now close enough to Earth that the one-way communication travel time from the spacecraft at Mars to the Deep Space Network antennas on Earth is only about 5 minutes away (at light speed). This shorter communication travel time means that the rover team has plenty of communication-link margin to support the higher uplink rate. The new uplink rate was successful during the sol 598 uplink session. Between Sept. 2 and Sept. 8, Spirit drove to another imaging location and completed the second stereo imaging campaign. Spirit returned to Irvine in order to explore what might be a dike, which is a crack-like cut that often forms when magma from a volcano travels through or over another rock. Spirit also performed more observations of the moons Phobos and Deimos, and completed three days of Moessbauer spectrometer readings on the capture magnets. Sol-by-sol summaries: Sol 592 (Sept. 2, 2005): Spirit drove to the second hilltop location for stereo imaging. Sol 593: Spirit performed remote sensing observations. Sol 594 and 595: On both sols, Spirit performed a Moessbauer spectrometer reading on a capture magnet, observed Phobos and Deimos, and did stereo imaging. Sol 596: Spirit performed a Moessbauer spectrometer reading on a capture magnet and took images with 13 filters on the panoramic camera. Sol 597: Spirit finished the panoramic camera imaging. Spirit used the microscopic imager to take pictures of the capture and filter magnets, and used the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on the capture magnet. Sol 598: Spirit drove back to Irvine. As of the end of sol 598, (Sept. 8, 2005), Spirit has driven 4,895 meters (3.04 miles). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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