[meteorite-list] american meteorite museum

2006-01-12 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!
Good morning list.I,we all know what happened to the OLD A M M.It
literally fell apart.But I seem to remember reading that it was rebuilt in
another location.Am I correct???If so,what ever happened to that
building?And where was it located?Anything from nininger always has my
attention.


 steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
 

Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
 
 
 
 
 
 










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[meteorite-list] Scales

2006-01-12 Thread Gary K. Foote
What do you use for scales?  What do you like about your scales?  What do you 
dislike?  
are they available online? How much did you pay?

Enough questions??

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Re: [meteorite-list] american meteorite museum

2006-01-12 Thread meteoriteplaya
Hi Steve

You wrote
Good morning list.I,we all know what happened to the OLD A M M.It literally 
fell apart.But I seem to remember reading that it was rebuilt in another 
location.Am I correct???

Yes you are correct. I have a web page that shows the building in Sedona. The 
page is based on the different postcards that were issued by Nininger to sell 
at his shop.
http://jensenmeteorites.com/Postcards/american_meteorite_museum.htm
There are also 3 photos in Find a Falling Star. One from inside the museum (p 
150) by MC and two from Sedona (p 223  224). Just for fun you can compare the 
photos to the postcard images and see some of the same items on the wall.

If so,what ever happened to that building?And where was it located
The building is still there. I have a friend who has told me he saw it 
recently. I hope to stop by some day and will snap a picture and add it to my 
web page.

?Anything from nininger always has my attention.
Mine too. Especially stuff that was produced at his museum.
Mike

 
  steve arnold, chicago
 
 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
  
 
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[meteorite-list] Video of Steve Arnold's dig and new find

2006-01-12 Thread Rus at DataLink
Go to http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/2181702.html ant there is a
video link at the top of the story. You can see it being dug up

Rus Schmidt

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite videos

2006-01-12 Thread Lars Pedersen

Hi All

Anyone who have had luck to save the 2 pallasite movies ?

if any luck, I am interested...

All the best
Lars

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Re: [meteorite-list] Scales

2006-01-12 Thread Stefan Brandes

Hi Gary,

try this:
http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/meteorite-scalecube.htm

I have one of those, they´re perfect!

Stefan


What do you use for scales?  What do you like about your scales?  What do 
you dislike?

are they available online? How much did you pay?

Enough questions??




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RE: [meteorite-list] Scales

2006-01-12 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Gary and Stefan,

I had assumed Gary was talking about scales for measuring
meteorite mass, but perhaps Stefan's interpretation is
correct and Gary was looking for photo orientation cubes
(or something similar).

However, if mass scale is what you meant, there are two
main issues that affect cost:  accuracy and dynamic range.
I use an Acculab V-200 digital scale that reads out to
0.01 grams and has a mass limit of 200 grams.  So a dynamic
range of 2, or a little more than 14 bits.  This is
actually rather good for a scale that is quite modestly
priced.

If you need to go heavier than 200 grams, you'll probably
be satisfied with 0.1-gram accuracy.  I'm sure someone
out there on the list can recommend a good digital scale
than can weigh up to a couple kilos or more (Acculab
makes these as well).

--Rob
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RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite videos

2006-01-12 Thread Kevin Forbes

Hi Lars and List,
I tried to save from temporary intenet files folder, but the file seems to 
be dat, or WMV but format is not recognised by windows media player, after 
saving and changing names. Any help anyone???

Kevin.


Hi All

Anyone who have had luck to save the 2 pallasite movies ?

if any luck, I am interested...

All the best
Lars

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Fwd: Re: [meteorite-list] Video of Steve Arnold's dig and new find

2006-01-12 Thread Tom Teters

At 09:16 AM 1/12/2006 -0600, you wrote:

Go to http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/2181702.html ant there is a
video link at the top of the story. You can see it being dug up

Rus Schmidt


VERY COOL!!!  Looks like farming meteorites is much more profitable than
raising corn!!  and more fun, also.
 Hey Steve, I think it's time to invest in a 3 bottom meteorite plow...ha...ha

Congratulations,
TomT

P.S. How much land can you 'plow' in a day?
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[meteorite-list] Stardust Probe Lands in Utah this Weekend

2006-01-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635175354,00.html

Stardust probe lands in Utah this weekend

Yet the best place to view re-entry may be Nevada

By Joe Bauman 
Deseret Morning News
January 11, 2006

  The best nearby location to watch the Stardust space probe burn
through the atmosphere prior to its landing at Dugway Proving Ground
isn't in Utah - it's in eastern Nevada, says an expert amateur astronomer.
  Stardust will blaze back to Earth early next Sunday about 3 a.m.,
coming in from the West. It will be back after seven years in outer
space, having scooped in examples of interstellar dust and bits of Comet
Wild-2.
  It will come in at 29,000 miles per hour, its heat shield creating
a long blaze in the dark heavens. For those in the best places,
Stardust's return home will look like a bright, fiery meteor streaking
from northwest to southeast, said Patrick Wiggins, NASA solar system
ambassador to Utah and Nevada.
  While it should be visible across a large swath of the
northwestern United States, its landing state may not be a good place to
see it. Wiggins said the best places to see it may be along a line from
Elko, Nev., to Wendover. People there may also hear its sonic boom.
  The view along the Wasatch Front is not expected to be good, so
some people from that area are planning an unofficial observing session
at the Wendover airport, he said. Other groups are said to be forming
near Elko and Wells, both cities in Nevada.
  Why can't Salt Lake residents get up early and have a great view
from their front yards? First, there's the likelihood of rain, with
clouds that can ruin the view for any observer.
  According to the National Weather Service, the prediction for
Saturday and Sunday is mostly cloudy. That does not look promising for
watching a spacecraft re-enter, at least looking at the forecast a few
days in advance.
  But even if the weather cooperated, Salt Lake City still would not
be the place to watch Stardust's return.
  Assuming good weather, the problem is that it's simply going to
be so low from the sky that, say, from the Salt Lake Valley, the
Oquirrhs will probably stick up higher than the spacecraft will be.
  From a site to the west, it will be higher in the sky.
  The forecast for Wendover isn't much better: cloudy Saturday night
with a 40 percent chance of rain and snow, mostly cloudy on Sunday.
  But if the clouds happen to part at the right moment, the view
could be spectacular.
  Take it from someone who has seen some spacecraft re-entries,
Wiggins said in a telephone interview. They're really impressive when
they go over your head.
  Not only does the re-entry create a fireball, but this can be
followed with an eerie purple ion train, a stream of charged gases.
  Clouds may not prevent all possible observations. Just possibly,
Stardust will let loose a sonic boom when it flies over.

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[meteorite-list] New Study Highlights Role of Hit-and-Run Collision in the Formation of Planets, Asteroids, and Meteorites

2006-01-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.ucsc.edu/news_events/press_releases/text.asp?pid=799

January 11, 2006
UC Santa Cruz Press Release
Contact: Tim Stephens (831) 459-2495; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New study highlights role of hit-and-run collisions in the formation
of planets, asteroids, and meteorites

Hit-and-run collisions between embryonic planets during a critical
period in the early history of the Solar System may account for some
previously unexplained properties of planets, asteroids, and meteorites,
according to researchers at the University of California, Santa Cruz,
who describe their findings in a paper to appear in the January 12 issue
of the journal Nature.

The four terrestrial or rocky planets (Earth, Mars, Venus, and
Mercury) are the products of an initial period, lasting tens of millions
of years, of violent collisions between planetary bodies of various
sizes. Scientists have mostly considered these events in terms of the
accretion of new material and other effects on the impacted planet,
while little attention has been given to the impactor. (By definition,
the impactor is the smaller of the two colliding bodies.)

But when planets collide, they don't always stick together. About half
the time, a planet-sized impactor hitting another planet-sized body will
bounce off, and these hit-and-run collisions have drastic consequences
for the impactor, said Erik Asphaug, associate professor of Earth
sciences at UCSC and first author of the Nature paper.

You end up with planets that leave the scene of the crime looking very
different from when they came in--they can lose their atmosphere, crust,
even the mantle, or they can be ripped apart into a family of smaller
objects, Asphaug said.

The remnants of these disrupted impactors can be found throughout the
asteroid belt and among meteorites, which are fragments of other
planetary bodies that have landed on Earth, he said. Even the planet
Mercury may have been a hit-and-run impactor that had much of its outer
layers stripped away, leaving it with a relatively large core and thin
crust and mantle, Asphaug said. That scenario remains speculative,
however, and requires additional study, he said.

Asphaug and postdoctoral researcher Craig Agnor used powerful computers
to run simulations of a range of scenarios, from grazing encounters to
direct hits between planets of comparable sizes. Coauthor Quentin
Williams, professor of Earth sciences at UCSC, analyzed the outcomes of
these simulations in terms of their effects on the composition and final
state of the remnant objects.

The researchers found that even close encounters in which the two
objects do not actually collide can severely affect the smaller object.

As two massive objects pass near each other, gravitational forces
induce dramatic physical changes--decompressing, melting, stripping
material away, and even annihilating the smaller object, Williams said.
You can do a lot of physics and chemistry on objects in the Solar
System without even touching them.

A planet exerts enormous pressure on itself through self-gravity, but
the gravitational pull of a larger object passing close by can cause
that pressure to drop precipitously. The effects of this
depressurization can be explosive, Williams said.

It's like uncorking the world's most carbonated beverage, he said.
What happens when a planet gets decompressed by 50 percent is something
we don't understand very well at this stage, but it can shift the
chemistry and physics all over the place, producing a complexity of
materials that could very well account for the heterogeneity we see in
meteorites.

The formation of the terrestrial planets is thought to have begun with a
phase of gentle accretion within a disk of gas and dust around the Sun.
Embryonic planets gobbled up much of the material around them until the
inner Solar System hosted around 100 Moon-sized to Mars-sized planets,
Asphaug said. Gravitational interactions with each other and with
Jupiter then tossed these protoplanets out of their circular orbits,
setting off an era of giant impacts that probably lasted 30 to 50
million years, he said.

Scientists have used computers to simulate the formation of the
terrestrial planets from hundreds of smaller bodies, but most of those
simulations have assumed that when planets collide they stick, Asphaug
said.

We've always known that's an approximation, but it's actually not easy
for planets to merge, he said. Our calculations show that they have to
be moving fairly slowly and hit almost head-on in order to accrete.

It is easy for a planet to attract and accrete a much smaller object
than itself. In giant impacts between planet-sized bodies, however, the
impactor is comparable in size to the target. In the case of a Mars-size
impactor hitting an Earth-size target, the impactor would be one-tenth
the mass but fully one-half the diameter of the Earth, Asphaug said.

Imagine two planets colliding, one half as big as the other, at a
typical impact angle of 45 degrees. 

Re: [meteorite-list] Video of Steve Arnold's dig and new find

2006-01-12 Thread Gerald Flaherty

Thanks Rus for the great link!
We have to agree we are living in a time of a very special Meteorite Hunter, 
Steve Arnold.
This does not  lessen the importance of all those pathfinders who have 
explored, and continue to explore the planet in this novel quest.
But the extraodinary press Steve's recent finds have prompted, has 
catapulted Meteorite into the popular mythology in a new and revolutionary 
way due in no small part to the internet.

Timing is everything!
All the dealers in ites are bound to reap some reward in this trickle 
down economy eventually[sooner rather than later cause the public's memory 
is great but short.

Be pro active and advertize Pallasite.
Jerry Flaherty
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Go to http://www.kake.com/news/headlines/2181702.html ant there is a
video link at the top of the story. You can see it being dug up

Rus Schmidt

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Re: [meteorite-list] Scales

2006-01-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Hiho,

and on ebay one finds a lot of digital pocket scales with an acurracy (at
least reads the display like that)
of 0.01g. They are quite affordable with 50-60$, seem to be an important
acessory for potheads.
Range is up to 50grams or 60grams.
I think for a collector it's sufficient. Until one has developped, that one
feels a need to get a more accurate weight for one's 70g Moon or Mars chunk,
it takes a while
and for the cheaper large NWA and Campo-kg chunks, your kitchen scale will
be enough meanwhile.

Cheers!
Martin

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Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 7:42 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Scales


 Hi Gary and Stefan,

 I had assumed Gary was talking about scales for measuring
 meteorite mass, but perhaps Stefan's interpretation is
 correct and Gary was looking for photo orientation cubes
 (or something similar).

 However, if mass scale is what you meant, there are two
 main issues that affect cost:  accuracy and dynamic range.
 I use an Acculab V-200 digital scale that reads out to
 0.01 grams and has a mass limit of 200 grams.  So a dynamic
 range of 2, or a little more than 14 bits.  This is
 actually rather good for a scale that is quite modestly
 priced.

 If you need to go heavier than 200 grams, you'll probably
 be satisfied with 0.1-gram accuracy.  I'm sure someone
 out there on the list can recommend a good digital scale
 than can weigh up to a couple kilos or more (Acculab
 makes these as well).

 --Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Video of Steve Arnold's dig and new find

2006-01-12 Thread Marcin Cimala
After watching this video I think that Mr Arnold have just perfect place to
search meteorites. Big , flat, clean fields. No trees, no grass, no stones,
no rivers, no old war pollution, no single mouse hole :))) and a big, bad,
deep looking detector. Oh yeah, with that puppy You even can find alien
spacecraft.

With something like this, our Morasko should be more ordinary than Campo.


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[meteorite-list] New Vatican State Meteorite Collection link

2006-01-12 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello

I have finaly ended to build the new site of the
Vatican State Meteorite Collection, you find here:

http://it.geocities.com/mcomemeteoritecollection/Vatican.html

In conclusion the Vatican Collection its composed from
many little pieces, some its very ridicolus pieces,
and other important pieces type Nakhla and many French
meteorites and some main masses.
If you find mistakes please inform me.

Matteo


M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it 
Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
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[meteorite-list] Chesapeake Bay Crater Drilling Declared Major Success

2006-01-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-01/usgs-cdd011206.php

Public release date: 12-Jan-2006

Contact: Gregory Gohn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
703-648-4382
United States Geological Survey 

Crater drilling declared major success

More than a mile-long core retrieved

Following three months of around-the-clock work, the Chesapeake Bay
Impact Crater Deep Drilling Project successfully completed its
operations, extracting more than a mile-long segment of rocks and
sediments from the Earth. On Dec. 4, the drill bit reached a final depth
of 5,795 ft (1.1 miles, 1.77 kilometers) within the structure of the
crater.

The impact crater was formed about 35 million years ago when a rock from
space struck the Earth at hypersonic speed. Scientists have only
recently begun to explore the consequences from that distant event and
learn how it has greatly affected the population living in southeastern
Virginia today.

The drilling project was a major success, said Greg Gohn, a U. S.
Geological Survey (USGS) scientist in Reston, Va. We recovered a nearly
complete set of core samples from the top of the crater fill to the
crater floor. USGS and the International Continental Scientific
Drilling Program (ICDP) are the project's sponsors.

Gohn is a co-principal investigator of the drilling project, along with
Christian Koeberl of the University of Vienna in Austria, Kenneth Miller
of Rutgers University in New Brunswick, NJ, and Uwe Reimold, at Humboldt
University in Berlin, Germany.

This is one of the most complete cores ever obtained in an impact
structure, said Koeberl, and will allow us to understand a
shallow-marine impact event at an unprecedented level.

The team successfully recovered the complete succession of post-impact
sediments above the crater, the entire sequence of rocks broken up
during the impact, and rocks from the crater floor. These samples will
allow the project's international science teams to research the
post-impact environment, impact-related processes, and the impact
process itself. In addition, the team completed geophysical down-hole
logging to collect additional data, such as the temperature gradient
within the corehole.

Important in this multidisciplinary venture is the analysis of the
groundwater reservoir in the Chesapeake Bay impact crater. Findings have
direct implications for the millions of people living in the area along
Virginia's eastern shore and to future development. Several teams from
the U.S. and Europe are investigating the microbial life present in the
impact crater, part of intriguing recent studies of life in exotic
environments.

The post-impact sediments record the recovery of the continental-shelf
target area from devastating impact mega-tsunamis to the passive
continental shelf and coastal plain that continues today, said Ken
Miller, who chairs the Department of Geological Sciences at Rutgers
University. Comparison of the section in Virginia with more complete
sections sampled in New Jersey and Delaware will yield new insight into
global sea-level changes and the distribution of water-bearing units in
the coastal plain.

The drillsite is located on private land in Northampton County on
Virginia's Eastern Shore. The site was chosen because of its location
above the central part of the buried crater. Drillsite activities began
with extensive site preparations in July 2005. The drill rig arrived in
early September, and scientists recovered the first core sample on
September 15th.

Cores are being stored at the USGS in Reston, VA and will be
photographed and documented during the next 3 months. In March 2006
members from all international teams will gather at the USGS to obtain
samples of the core for their various studies.

###

ICDP and USGS provided the initial funding for the drilling project. The
project received supplementary funding in late November from ICDP and
USGS, and from the Solar System Division of the NASA Science Mission
Directorate, which allowed drilling to continue into December. The
National Science Foundation, Earth Science Division, is supporting the
post-impact studies.

DOSECC (Drilling, Observation, and Sampling of the Earth's Continental
Crust) managed the drillsite operations, and Major Drilling America,
Inc. performed the core drilling. DOSECC is a nonprofit corporation
whose mission is to provide leadership and technical support in
subsurface sampling and monitoring technology for scientific and
societal importance.

Relevant Web URLs:

* ICDP/Chesapeake: http://chesapeake.icdp-online.org
* USGS/Chesapeake Crater: http://geology.er.usgs.gov/eespteam/crater/
* DOSECC: http://www.dosecc.org/

The International Continental Scientific Drilling Program is a
multinational program which funds and supports geosciences in the field
of Continental Scientific Drilling. The ICDP has currently a total of 13
member countries and two corporate affiliates. The GFZ Potsdam in
Germany serves as Executive Agency for the ICDP.

The USGS serves the 

[meteorite-list] NASA's Comet Hunter on Final Approach For Sunday Landing

2006-01-12 Thread Ron Baalke


Jan. 12, 2006

Erica Hupp/Merrilee Fellows
Headquarters, Washington 
(202) 358-1237/ (818) 393-0754

D.C. Agle
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
(818) 393-9011

RELEASE: 06-028

NASA'S COMET HUNTER ON FINAL APPROACH FOR SUNDAY LANDING

NASA's Stardust mission return capsule will land Sunday at 
approximately 5:12 a.m. EST (3:12 MST) on the Utah Test and Training 
Range. Stardust is completing a 2.88 billion mile round-trip odyssey 
to capture and return cometary and interstellar dust particles to 
Earth. 

The spacecraft performs its last maneuver to put it on the correct 
path to enter the atmosphere tomorrow at 11:53 p.m. EST (9:53 p.m. 
MST). The speed of the capsule, as it enters the atmosphere at 28,860 
mph, will be the fastest ever of any human-made object, surpassing 
the record set in May 1969 by the returning Apollo 10 command module. 

The capsule will release a parachute at approximately 105,000 feet and 
descend to the salt flats. Weather permitting, it will be recovered 
by helicopter teams and taken to a clean room at the Michael Army 
Airfield, Dugway Proving Ground for initial processing. 

Stardust launched on Feb. 7, 1999, and encountered comet Wild 2 on 
Jan. 2, 2004. It flew less than 150 miles from the comet's nucleus to 
capture tiny grains of dust. During the voyage, the spacecraft 
captured bits of interstellar dust streaming into the solar system 
from other parts of the galaxy. Scientists believe these precious 
samples will help provide answers to fundamental questions about 
comets and the origins of the solar system. For Stardust information 
on the Web, visit: 

http://www.nasa.gov/stardust

NASA TV coverage starts Sunday at 4:30 a.m. EST (6:30 a.m. MST) on the 
Public (101), Education (102) and Media (103) channels. NASA TV is 
available on an MPEG-2 digital C-band signal accessed via satellite 
AMC-6, at 72 degrees west longitude, transponder 17C, 4040 MHz, 
vertical polarization. In Alaska and Hawaii, it's available on AMC-7 
at 137 degrees west longitude, transponder 18C, at 4060 MHz, 
horizontal polarization. For NASA TV information and schedules on the 
Web, visit: 

http://www.nasa.gov/ntv 

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[meteorite-list] Ad 2.4g Zagami on Ebay

2006-01-12 Thread mineral
I have a 2.4323g chunk of the Zagami meteorite on Ebay. This specimen is of the 
rarer coarse lithology (only about 20% of the stone) and has nice shinny black 
fusion crust.  This specimen is half of the 5 gram piece that was sold from the 
Elbert King collection.  Thanks, Derek.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6594896080
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[meteorite-list] Aerogel Helps Scientists Unravel Mysteries of Comets

2006-01-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/research/exploringtheuniverse/aerogel.html

John Bluck
NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif.
Phone: 650/604-5026
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aerogel Helps Scientists Unravel Mysteries of Comets
January 10, 2006

Strange stuff called 'aerogel' that looks like a semi-transparent, blue
cloud, but that is solid, is carrying captured comet dust to Earth for a
Jan. 15, 2006, landing in a Utah desert.

In January 2004, the Stardust spacecraft flew within 147 miles (236
kilometers) of the comet Wild 2 (VILT-TWO) and survived the high-speed
impact of millions of dust particles and small rocks up to nearly
two-tenths of an inch (one-half centimeter) across. With its
tennis-racket-shaped collector extended, Stardust captured thousands of
comet particles in the see-through aerogel, which includes silica and
oxygen.

It's a little bit like collecting BBs by shooting them into Styrofoam,
said Scott Sandford, an astrophysicist and Stardust mission
co-investigator based at NASA Ames Research Center in California's
Silicon Valley. Some of the grains are likely to have exotic isotopic
ratios that will give us an indication that we're looking at materials
that aren't as old as the solar system, but that are, in fact, older
than the solar system, Sandford asserted.

Another mission objective was to expose the spacecraft to the
interstellar dust stream for 150 days to grab particles. After
collecting them, the aerogel collector retracted into the spacecraft's
capsule. Stardust will be the first mission to capture and return a
substantial sample from outside Earth's moon system.

Making sure that precious comet and interstellar particles imbedded in
the aerogel are not affected by earthly contaminants was an important
task to complete before the Stardust spacecraft was launched on Feb. 7,
1999, from Cape Canaveral Air Station, Florida. aboard a Delta II rocket.

Under Dr. Sandford's guidance, I performed the lab analysis of the
aerogel using infrared (IR) light to determine the level of organic
contamination, said Max Bernstein, a scientist at NASA
Ames. These and other preliminary lab tests ultimately led the Stardust
aerogel development team to devise a bake-vacuum-bake cycle to reduce
the carbon content in aerogel, Bernstein said.

Aerogel is made mostly of sand (silica), and what we're interested in
is the organic material in the cometary samples, Bernstein said. We
measured organic contamination in aerogel early on. We raised a concern,
and Peter Tsou and the aerogel team at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
Pasadena, Calif., devised a method to reduce carbon content in aerogel
by a factor of 10.

Infrared light that astronomers use to detect organic molecules in space
also can be used to measure organic molecules in the laboratory. In
their laboratory, Ames scientists shined IR light though a piece of an
early batch of test aerogel, and they saw organic contamination. Because
infrared is light that is not visible to the human eye, scientists use
special detectors to 'see' IR. If scientists detect a specific IR color
scheme, they can tell that a specific molecular fragment is moving and
is present in the sample of material they are examining.

If you understand that color scheme, then when you make the
measurement, you can say, 'ah hah, I spotted colors corresponding to a
carbon-hydrogen motion, so there must be carbons and hydrogen in the
aerogel, not just silicon and oxygen,' Bernstein explained. Thanks in
part to our measurements, we now have cleaner aerogel, which is flying
on the Stardust spacecraft.

In cooperation with Bernstein, graduate student Maegan K. Spencer of
Stanford University, Stanford, Calif., is conducting more sophisticated
aerogel organic contamination tests in the laboratories of Stanford
Professor Richard Zare.

The returning Stardust capsule will strike Earth's atmosphere at eight
miles (12.8 kilometers) per second - more than 20 times faster than a
speeding bullet. That is fast enough to go from San Francisco to Los
Angeles in only one minute. The 101-pound (45.7 kilogram) conical object
will hurtle through the atmosphere and slow before the spacecraft
finally parachutes down to Earth in a Utah dry lake. The landing will
occur on Sunday, Jan. 15, 2006, at about 3 a.m. MST, in a restricted
area - the Utah Test and Training Range, located southwest of Salt Lake
City.

There will be a team of scientists at Johnson Space Center who will
assess what we actually got back from the comet so we can verify we did
get a useful sample, Sandford said. A small portion of the samples
will then be used to make a preliminary study of the returned material.
After the preliminary examination is complete, all the samples will be
made available to the general scientific community for more detailed
study. My guess is people will be asking for and working on these
samples for decades to come.

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[meteorite-list] Meteor Lights Up The Morning Skies in Idaho

2006-01-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jan1206-meteor_sighting.6f734dcd.html

Meteor lights up the morning skies
Mike Vogel
KTVB NewsChannel 7
January 12, 2006

BOISEE -- It happened early Thursday morning around 7:15 a.m.

A very bright meteor lit up the skies and streaked across the horizon.

NewsChannel 7 spoke with several of the people who witnessed it.

We had numerous calls here at the station from people who saw it.

Police dispatch also took several calls, and even one person in the
Boise Airport tower saw it.

And though the eyewitness accounts vary slightly, they are all
consistent with it being a meteor.

I was driving north on Bogus Basin, and I looked up in the sky and
there was fireworks coming down, said Jacqueline Correnti.

When Jacqueline Correnti looked up in the sky this morning she couldn't
believe her eyes.

I only saw it for a second or two,' said Correnti.

A meteor in the skies above the Treasure Valley going west to east.

Between where those two clouds are, it was right in the middle of it,
and heading that way it was, if I were going out to reach and grab it,
it was a good volleyball size, said Correnti.  This was definitely not
a falling star; the tail on it was bright blue and pretty thick.  I've
seen Hailey's Comet in the sky, but that is so far away. this was like,
this was closer than what an airplane would be. I was so excited, I got
goose bumps.

Across town in southeast Boise, Libby Hood saw the same thing.

I saw it for a good ten seconds it was phenomenal.  Was coming home and
the bright light from this object in the sky caught my attention and it
was low enough here above the roof line, I was just about to pull into
the driveway and a flash kind of caught my eye, and I looked over to the
left and I seen this ball of fire with a tail behind it, kind of at a
gradual descent, said Hood.

At first she thought it might be a plane going down.

I verbally remember myself saying, 'oh my gosh,' because it was that I
looked, and I looked again, and just watched this thing go across the
sky, and it was so low.  Pretty amazing, pretty phenomenal to witness
that, said Hood.

Experts from the Boise Astronomical Society say that if the it did hit
the ground, the meteorite would likely be smaller than a walnut.

And although it's unclear if anyone saw it land, considering its size,
it is highly unlikely anyone would ever find it.

But if anyone did find it, meteorites are worth a lot of money.  Some
put their value at about the same as gold.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Lights Up The Morning Skies in Idaho

2006-01-12 Thread Marc Fries
Howdy

   If anyone decides to go looking for this one, drop me a line.  I seem
to have some remote imagery of the meteor.  Traveling out to Idaho from
DC rates pretty low on the feasability scale right now, though.

Cheers,
MDF


 http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/stories/ktvbn-jan1206-meteor_sighting.6f734dcd.html

 Meteor lights up the morning skies
 Mike Vogel
 KTVB NewsChannel 7
 January 12, 2006

 BOISEE -- It happened early Thursday morning around 7:15 a.m.

 A very bright meteor lit up the skies and streaked across the horizon.

 NewsChannel 7 spoke with several of the people who witnessed it.

 We had numerous calls here at the station from people who saw it.

 Police dispatch also took several calls, and even one person in the
 Boise Airport tower saw it.

 And though the eyewitness accounts vary slightly, they are all
 consistent with it being a meteor.

 I was driving north on Bogus Basin, and I looked up in the sky and
 there was fireworks coming down, said Jacqueline Correnti.

 When Jacqueline Correnti looked up in the sky this morning she couldn't
 believe her eyes.

 I only saw it for a second or two,' said Correnti.

 A meteor in the skies above the Treasure Valley going west to east.

 Between where those two clouds are, it was right in the middle of it,
 and heading that way it was, if I were going out to reach and grab it,
 it was a good volleyball size, said Correnti.  This was definitely not
 a falling star; the tail on it was bright blue and pretty thick.  I've
 seen Hailey's Comet in the sky, but that is so far away. this was like,
 this was closer than what an airplane would be. I was so excited, I got
 goose bumps.

 Across town in southeast Boise, Libby Hood saw the same thing.

 I saw it for a good ten seconds it was phenomenal.  Was coming home and
 the bright light from this object in the sky caught my attention and it
 was low enough here above the roof line, I was just about to pull into
 the driveway and a flash kind of caught my eye, and I looked over to the
 left and I seen this ball of fire with a tail behind it, kind of at a
 gradual descent, said Hood.

 At first she thought it might be a plane going down.

 I verbally remember myself saying, 'oh my gosh,' because it was that I
 looked, and I looked again, and just watched this thing go across the
 sky, and it was so low.  Pretty amazing, pretty phenomenal to witness
 that, said Hood.

 Experts from the Boise Astronomical Society say that if the it did hit
 the ground, the meteorite would likely be smaller than a walnut.

 And although it's unclear if anyone saw it land, considering its size,
 it is highly unlikely anyone would ever find it.

 But if anyone did find it, meteorites are worth a lot of money.  Some
 put their value at about the same as gold.

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