SV: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz

2006-01-14 Thread Lars Pedersen
Suevite ?

:-)
Lars

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Emne: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz

Hi all,


some list members asked me to do another Quiz like 

the New Year Quiz I've done some days ago.

OK, so it' s time for another little Quiz

which one is it ?

http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz_05.jpg


Cheers,

Christian

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Re: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz

2006-01-14 Thread Stefan Brandes

a very special new austrian eucrite, called angerite ;)

Stefan


Hi all,


some list members asked me to do another Quiz like 


the New Year Quiz I've done some days ago.

OK, so it' s time for another little Quiz

which one is it ?

http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz_05.jpg


Cheers,

Christian

I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc
website: www.austromet.com

Ing. Christian Anger
Korngasse 6
2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg
AUSTRIA

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[meteorite-list] A new Quiz

2006-01-14 Thread bernd . pauli
1. Lars: Suevite
2. Bernd: Chip off a polymict, brecciated eucrite

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Stardust Webcams

2006-01-14 Thread Meteoriteshow
Thanks Ron, we'll follow the arrival!!!
Cheers,

Frederic Beroud
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:30 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Stardust Webcams


 
 Hi,
 
 I've installed two Stardust webcams and they are now available
 for viewing:
 
 http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/webcam.html
 
 The first camera shows a live view from JPL operations building.
 The Stardust operations  navigation team are in there right now 
 preparing for tonight's maneuver, TCM-19. And of course, they'll be 
 there for tomorrow night's release of the capsule, the divert maneuver
 the landing of the capsule in Utah.
 
 The second camera shows the cleanroom at Johnson Space Center.
 The capsule will arrive there on January 17, and this is where
 the capsule will be opened for the first time and the aerogel
 collector grid will be removed.
 
 Ron Baalke
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Re: [meteorite-list] A new Quiz

2006-01-14 Thread Ingo Herkstroeter

 
 1. Lars : Suevite
 2. Bernd: Chip off a polymict, brecciated eucrite
 3. Ingo : polymict basement breccia/ Nördlinger Ries

Ingo 
 
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] D'orbigny

2006-01-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Meteorites are like stocks,
as long you don't sell them, you won't have any losses
Keep it some years more.

Buckleboo!
Martin

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] D'orbigny


 I have give, I have sold a 0.3 gr. fragment of
 D'Orbigny buy from Carion when its arrive in the
 market for $1000/gr. not like to me lose money on
 meteorites I have pay the right price, in the time
 when I have buy the piece.
 
 Matteo
 
 --- Roman Jirasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 
 
  Matteo, you had your chance to correct your price.
  You did not!
  Why?
  
  History, you buy at $1000.+  Today you can buy at
  150./g or less...
  Why not buy now to off-set your expensive purchases
  in the past?
  
  Roman Jirasek
  www.meteoritelabels.com
  
  
   
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   no its the ruin market.
   
   Matteo
   
   --- Jan Bartels [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 
   
Dear Listoids,

Just wondering:
I got myself a fragment of the D'orbigny
  (Angrite)
and while surfing on
the well known dealers websites i noticed some
massive difference in
prices.
For example: One offers a 2,67 gram slice for
  $667
while another sells a
2,2 gram piece (crusted) for over $11.000!!!
Is the huge difference in price just for the
  fusion
crust?

This is quite a dollar knocker!!

Any comments?

Best,
Jan
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Re: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz

2006-01-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Piece of Millbillillie, which you forgot to take out of the pocket,
before you gave the trousers in the washing machine.
Martin

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Subject: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz


Hi all,


some list members asked me to do another Quiz like 

the New Year Quiz I've done some days ago.

OK, so it' s time for another little Quiz

which one is it ?

http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz_05.jpg


Cheers,

Christian

I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc
website: www.austromet.com

Ing. Christian Anger
Korngasse 6
2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg
AUSTRIA

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[meteorite-list] A New Quiz

2006-01-14 Thread AstronomicalResearchNetwork

Looks like Mica Schist .
   Ken Regelman
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[meteorite-list] Stardust Celebration (Ad)

2006-01-14 Thread MARSROX
List Members:


I'm down to the last 100 copies of my book The Art of Collecting  
Meteorites that will be signed and numbered. Copies can be purchased at:
 

_www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com_ 
(http://www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com) 
 

As some of you know, this is a self-published work and I alone am  
responsible for marketing and distributing it. I've had so much help from  
members of 
the meteorite community but at this moment I'd like to especially  thank Jim 
and Paul of Meteorite Central for their crucial and ongoing support of  my 
book. 
 

I am looking for a dealers in Europe and Asia to stock copies, I can be  
contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) .
 

Lastly, I've got six small fragments of rare and very rare material on  eBAY 
that I'm sure someone would enjoy owning. I can't weigh these accurately on  
my scale, but I guess they vary from 6-20 mgs. each. 
- Renazzo CR2 (3 x 2 mm)- the R in CR2
- a single globular chondrule (2 x 2 mm) from Allende CV3
- Murchison CM2 (4 x 3 mm)
- Kapoeta AHOW (3 x 2 mm + dust)
-  Pasamonte AEUC (2 x 2 mm  1x1mm)
-  Orgueil CI1 (2 x 2 mm), the rarest of this lot, a meteorite  suspected of 
originating from a comet. 
 
 
Rather than offer them as separate auctions, I've packaged them as one lot.  
For fun let's call them Bessey + Specks. Here's the package - 


_http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=438445site=0ver=LCA080805it
em=6597149868lk=URL_ 
(http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=438445site=0ver=LCA080805item=6597149868lk=URL)
 
 
 
Thank you for your kind attention.
 
 
Kevin Kichinka
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] D'orbigny

2006-01-14 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:42:51 +0100, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Meteorites are like stocks,
as long you don't sell them, you won't have any losses
Keep it some years more.


Unless it's an iron, and turns into a pile of rust.  (I'm almost phobic about 
not buying irons
anything above a few dozen grams for that reason).
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[meteorite-list] Nitrogen for safe storage ?

2006-01-14 Thread Lars Pedersen


Hi

I was wondering if it could be a good idea to make small aquariums for
storage of rusters, and fill them with nitrogen and finally seal them.

:-)
Lars


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RE: [meteorite-list] Nitrogen for safe storage ?

2006-01-14 Thread Pete Pete

Hi, all,

If you can't touch them, what's the point in buying them? (unless you're a 
dealer, of course)


Just my thoughts on it...

Cheers,
Pete


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Subject: [meteorite-list] Nitrogen for safe storage ?
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:43:29 +0100



Hi

I was wondering if it could be a good idea to make small aquariums for
storage of rusters, and fill them with nitrogen and finally seal them.

:-)
Lars


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Re: [meteorite-list] Nitrogen for safe storage ?

2006-01-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Years ago I read an article,
that there was a company,
where millionarios could store brand new expensive cars in nitrogen filled
balloons for some decades,
to have later brandnew and valuable veteran cars for their kids and
grandchildren.

;-?
Buckleboo!

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 Hi

 I was wondering if it could be a good idea to make small aquariums for
 storage of rusters, and fill them with nitrogen and finally seal them.

 :-)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Nitrogen for safe storage ?

2006-01-14 Thread David Weir

Not to mention your head!

David

Martin Altmann wrote:

Years ago I read an article,
that there was a company,
where millionarios could store brand new expensive cars in nitrogen filled
balloons for some decades,
to have later brandnew and valuable veteran cars for their kids and
grandchildren.

;-?
Buckleboo!

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[meteorite-list] NASA's Stardust Passes Moon, Just Hours Away From Earth Return

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke

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Dwayne Brown/Merrilee Fellows  (202) 358-1726/(818) 393-0754
NASA Headquarters, Washington   

NEWS RELEASE 2006-008   January 14, 2006 

NASA'S STARDUST PASSES MOON, JUST HOURS AWAY FROM EARTH RETURN 

Less than one day of space travel separates Earth and history's first 
comet sample return mission. Today at 9:30 a.m. Pacific time 
(10:30 a.m. Mountain time), the Stardust spacecraft will cross the moon's 
orbit as the craft makes its way toward Earth. 

The final 400,000 kilometers (249,000 miles) of the mission to return a 
capsule containing cometary particles to Earth will take just 16 hours 
and 27 minutes. It took the Apollo astronauts about three days to make the 
same journey.

Our entire flight and recovery team will be watching this final leg of our 
flight with tremendous expectation as we implement a precise celestial ballet 
in delivering our capsule to Earth, said Stardust Project Manager Tom Duxbury 
of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. We feel like parents 
awaiting the return of a child who left us young and innocent, who now 
returns holding answers to the most profound questions of our solar system.

Prior to passing the moon's orbit, the spacecraft performed a final maneuver 
to place it on a precise path to reach its landing target on the Utah Test 
and Training Range. The burn, which took place yesterday at 8:53 p.m. Pacific 
time (9:53 p.m. Mountain time), took 58.5 seconds to complete and changed the 
spacecraft's velocity by 2.9 mph. At the time of the burn the spacecraft was 
about 706,000 kilometers (439,000 miles) from Earth. 

NASA's Stardust mission has traveled about 4.5 billion kilometers (2.88 
billion miles) during its seven year round-trip odyssey. It is a journey that 
carried it around the sun three times and beyond Mars and the asteroid belt -- 
as far out as half-way to Jupiter. This cosmic voyage was in quest of cometary 
and interstellar dust particles, which scientists believe will help provide 
answers to fundamental questions about comets and the origins of the solar 
system.

With the information we gathered during our encounter with comet Wild 2 in 
Jan. 2004, Stardust has already provided us with some remarkable science, 
said Dr. Don Brownlee, Stardust principal investigator at the University of 
Washington, Seattle. With the return of cometary samples, we'll be able to 
work with the actual building materials of the solar system as they were when 
the solar system was formed. It will be a great day for science.

The last few hours of the Stardust mission will be filled with significant 
milestones. Today at about 8:15 p.m. Pacific time (9:15 p.m. Mountain time), 
mission controllers will command the spacecraft to begin the 
computer-controlled sequence that will release the sample return capsule. 

At 9:56 p.m. Pacific time (10:56 p.m. Mountain time), the Stardust spacecraft 
will complete the sequence by severing the umbilical cables between spacecraft 
and capsule. One minute later, springs aboard the spacecraft will literally 
push the capsule away, putting it into its trajectory toward the Utah Test 
and Training Range.  Fifteen minutes later, the mother ship, the Stardust 
spacecraft, will perform a maneuver to enter orbit around the sun.

At 1:57 a.m. Pacific time (2:57 a.m. Mountain time), four hours after being 
released by the Stardust spacecraft, the capsule will enter Earth's atmosphere 
at an altitude of 125 kilometers (410,000 feet) over Northern California. At 
this point it will be 20 kilometers (12.43 miles) east of the Pacific coast and 
22 kilometers (13.67 miles) south of the Oregon-California border. The velocity 
of the sample return capsule as it enters Earth's atmosphere at 46,440 
kilometers per hour (28,860 miles per hour) will be the greatest of any 
human-made object on record. This will surpass the record set in May 1969 
during the return of the Apollo 10 command module. 

The Stardust sample return capsule will release a drogue parachute at an 
altitude of approximately 32 kilometers (105,000 feet). Once the capsule has 
descended to an altitude of about 3 kilometers (10,000 feet) at 2:05 a.m. 
Pacific time (3:05 a.m. Mountain time), the main parachute will deploy. 
The capsule is scheduled to land on the salt flats of the Utah Test and 
Training Range at 2:12 a.m. Pacific time (3:12 a.m. Mountain time).

If weather conditions allow, the recovery team will be flown by helicopter 
to recover the capsule and fly it to the U.S. Army Dugway Proving Ground, Utah, 
for initial processing. If weather does not allow helicopters to fly, special 
off-road vehicles will be used to 

[meteorite-list] Observations Show 2005 FY9 Is Very Similar To Pluto

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke


Isaac Newton Group of Telescopes
Apartado de correos 321
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Contact:
Javier Méndez, Public Relations Officer
jma @ ing.iac.es

News release date: 13th January, 2006

WHT and TNG Observations Prove that the Large Trans-Neptunian Object 2005 
FY9 is Very Similar to Pluto

Visible and near-infrared spectroscopic observations carried out on August 
1st 2005 by a group leaded by the ING-IAC astronomer Javier Licandro[1] 
using the William Herschel Telescope (WHT) and the Telescopio Nazionale 
Galileo (TNG) at El Roque de Los Muchachos Observatory show that the 
recently discovered trans-neptunian object (TNO) 2005 FY9 is very similar 
to Pluto. Results have been published in the journal Astronomy  
Astrophysics (Licandro et al., 2006, AA, 445, 35L).

2005 FY9 is the third brightest known TNO, after 2003 UB313 and Pluto. 
Although discovered early in 2005 by USA astronomers M. Brown and 
co-workers, the discovery wasn't reported until July 29th. The size of 
2005 FY9 is 0.7 times that of Pluto approximately. The semi-major axis of 
its orbit is 46 Astronomical Units (AU, 1 AU=149,597,892 kilometres), the 
perihelion distance is 39 AU and the inclination of the orbit is 29 deg. 
These values are typical of the classical TNO family.

Visible spectroscopy was obtained using the ISIS spectrograph on the WHT, 
and near-infrared spectroscopy was obtained using the NICS spectrograph on 
the TNG. The complete visible and near-infrared spectrum is shown in 
Figure 2 and compared with the spectrum of Pluto and that of pure methane 
ice. Figure 2 clearly shows that the spectra of both TNOs are very 
similar. They are dominated by strong absorption bands produced by methan 
ice. In fact, the absorption bands in the spectrum of 2005 FY9 are deeper 
than in the spectrum of Pluto as a result of the larger abundance of 
methane ice in 2005 FY9. Also the colour of the surface of the TNO is red 
(indicated by the slope of the spectrum), similar to that of Pluto. This 
shows the presence of complex organic compounds in the surface.

The discovery of a Pluto 'twin' in the trans-neptunian belt is relevant as 
Pluto is the only known TNO possessing a small atmosphere. The similar 
size and surface composition of 2005 FY9 are facts that suggest it can 
also have such a tenuous bound atmosphere.

Until now only one known TNO, Pluto, showed the presence of strong methan 
ice absorption bands in the spectrum. However, apart from 2005 FY9, 
recently these bands were also observed in the spectrum of the largest yet 
known TNO, 2003 UB313 (Brown et al., 2005, ApJ, 635, 97). As shown in 
Figure 3, the near infrared spectrum of 2003 UB313 is very similar to that 
of 2005 FY9.

The discovery that 2005 FY9 is very similar to Pluto provides astronomers 
with a new and exciting laboratory for the study of volatile mixing and 
transport, atmospheric freeze-out and escape, ice chemistry, and nitrogen 
phase transitions in Pluto-like objects.

Notes:

[1] The members of the international team led by Javier Licandro (ING-IAC) 
are William Grundy (Lowell Observatory), Ernesto Oliva (FGG-TNG), Marco 
Pedani (FGG-TNG), Noemí Pinilla-Alonso (FGG-TNG) and Gian Paolo Tozzi 
(Osservatorio di Arcetri).

IMAGE CAPTIONS:

[Figure 1:
http://www.ing.iac.es/PR/press/8451.jpg (23KB)]
The size of the largest objects known in the outer Solar System compared 
with the size of the Moon.

[Figure 2:
http://www.ing.iac.es/PR/press/spectrum2005FY9.gif (28KB)]
The spectrum of 2005 FY9 compared with the spectrum of Pluto and that of 
pure methane ice. Notice the strong methan ice absorption bands present in 
the spectrum of both TNOs.

[Figure 3:
http://www.ing.iac.es/PR/press/img19.gif (29KB)]
Near infrared spectrum of 2005 FY9 obtained by Licandro et al. (2006) 
compared with that of TNO 2003 UB313 from Brown et al. (2005). The 
similarity of both spectra shows that the surface composition of both 
objects must be also similar.



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Re: [meteorite-list] a new Quiz

2006-01-14 Thread JKGwilliam
For those of you who like the challenge of identifying meteorites, take a 
few minutes and visit the Mystery Meteorites section at the 
MeteoriteImpact Forum.


View it here:
http://www.meteoriteimpact.invisionzone.com/index.php?showforum=12

Best,

JKGwilliam

At 02:10 AM 1/14/2006, Christian Anger wrote:

Hi all,


some list members asked me to do another Quiz like

the New Year Quiz I've done some days ago.

OK, so it' s time for another little Quiz

which one is it ?

http://www.austromet.com/CollnPics/Quiz_05.jpg


Cheers,

Christian

I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc
website: www.austromet.com

Ing. Christian Anger
Korngasse 6
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[meteorite-list] Stardust Webcam

2006-01-14 Thread Metorman46
Ron;That is a great service to the list.Thank you very much.I will enjoy  
viewing the events.and wouldn't it be great to webcam the re-entry.What a  
glorious sight that must be.Hopefully some of the list members will get to view 
 
it.Hope so anyway.
 
Thanks;Herman.
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[meteorite-list] NASA's Stardust

2006-01-14 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi List,

This is a very interesting subject  for me for several reasons. The number
one reason is that while Mike Farmer and I were doing a public talk at the
University of Washington, Dr. Don Brownlee, Stardust's principal
investigator was in attendance and asked us several questions demonstrating
an interest in what we had to say.  He is among the nicest people you could
hope to meet and has a sincere interest in meteoritics. As a matter of fact,
micrometeorites carry his name, Brownlee Particles! We also met NASA's
Michael Zolenski, who flew out to present his findings on Tagish Lake,
attended dinner with us after the talks. Imagine Mike Farmer, Greg, and I
having a few brews with these world renown scientist including Dr. Tony
Irving who was in charge of putting together these presentations.  It may
seem unlikely but we had some great conversations that I will never forget.
It is noteworthy to see how a common interest in meteorites can bridge the
gaps between collectors, dealers and scientists alike.

I will be up all night watching with anticipation the outcome of this
historic material return mission.

Kind Regards,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
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 MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE
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 Dwayne Brown/Merrilee Fellows  (202) 358-1726/(818) 393-0754
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 NEWS RELEASE 2006-008 January 14, 2006

 NASA'S STARDUST PASSES MOON, JUST HOURS AWAY FROM EARTH RETURN

 Less than one day of space travel separates Earth and history's first
 comet sample return mission. Today at 9:30 a.m. Pacific time
 (10:30 a.m. Mountain time), the Stardust spacecraft will cross the moon's
 orbit as the craft makes its way toward Earth.

 The final 400,000 kilometers (249,000 miles) of the mission to return a
 capsule containing cometary particles to Earth will take just 16 hours
 and 27 minutes. It took the Apollo astronauts about three days to make the
 same journey.

 Our entire flight and recovery team will be watching this final leg of
our
 flight with tremendous expectation as we implement a precise celestial
ballet
 in delivering our capsule to Earth, said Stardust Project Manager Tom
Duxbury
 of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. We feel like
parents
 awaiting the return of a child who left us young and innocent, who now
 returns holding answers to the most profound questions of our solar
system.

 Prior to passing the moon's orbit, the spacecraft performed a final
maneuver
 to place it on a precise path to reach its landing target on the Utah Test
 and Training Range. The burn, which took place yesterday at 8:53 p.m.
Pacific
 time (9:53 p.m. Mountain time), took 58.5 seconds to complete and changed
the
 spacecraft's velocity by 2.9 mph. At the time of the burn the spacecraft
was
 about 706,000 kilometers (439,000 miles) from Earth.

 NASA's Stardust mission has traveled about 4.5 billion kilometers (2.88
 billion miles) during its seven year round-trip odyssey. It is a journey
that
 carried it around the sun three times and beyond Mars and the asteroid
belt -- 
 as far out as half-way to Jupiter. This cosmic voyage was in quest of
cometary
 and interstellar dust particles, which scientists believe will help
provide
 answers to fundamental questions about comets and the origins of the solar
 system.

 With the information we gathered during our encounter with comet Wild 2
in
 Jan. 2004, Stardust has already provided us with some remarkable science,
 said Dr. Don Brownlee, Stardust principal investigator at the University
of
 Washington, Seattle. With the return of cometary samples, we'll be able
to
 work with the actual building materials of the solar system as they were
when
 the solar system was formed. It will be a great day for science.

 The last few hours of the Stardust mission will be filled with significant
 milestones. Today at about 8:15 p.m. Pacific time (9:15 p.m. Mountain
time),
 mission controllers will command the spacecraft to begin the
 computer-controlled sequence that will release the sample return capsule.

 At 9:56 p.m. Pacific time (10:56 p.m. Mountain time), the Stardust
spacecraft
 will complete the sequence by severing the umbilical cables between
spacecraft
 and capsule. One minute later, springs aboard the spacecraft will
literally
 push the capsule away, putting it into its trajectory toward the Utah Test
 and Training Range.  Fifteen minutes later, the mother ship, the

[meteorite-list] kakangari and new specimen cards

2006-01-14 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!
Hello list.I finally got around to doing some of my new specimen cards.So
I thought what a better way than to do my little piece of KAKANGARI (K)
class piece.You can view it and my new card,the first one made,for my
collection on my homepage on my website.Also thanks again to dana hawn for
giving me the info on this great site.Let me know what you think.2 weeks
till tucson.


steve arnold, chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
 

Illinois Meteorites,Ltd!


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[meteorite-list] Kakangari and new specimen cards

2006-01-14 Thread bernd . pauli
Hi there Steve and List,

Congrats, looks great and professional though there are some
minor drawbacks that I'd like to point out if you don't mind:

1. If I were you, I wouldn't put an exclamation mark because the
   meteorite (my very personal perspective) is more relevant than
   the owner.

2. You printed Witness fall. Though I am not a native speaker,
   (wish I was!) I think this should read Witnessed fall.

3. I usually print the specimen weight of my personal specimen
   after the TKW, and, last but not least, my latest labels also
   mention the seller that I purchased my piece from (although
   I also keep the original label most sellers/dealers include)
   for future reference.

Best regards,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] D'Orbigny

2006-01-14 Thread Marcin Cimala
Hi
Anyone have any photos of main mass or any bigger piece ?
I hear is was oriented specimen so I'm really interested to see this
meteorite.
Who right now own the main mass ?

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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Re: [meteorite-list] kakangari and new specimen cards

2006-01-14 Thread Dave Carothers
Very nice, Steve.

Dave


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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:44 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] kakangari and new specimen cards


 Hello list.I finally got around to doing some of my new specimen cards.So
 I thought what a better way than to do my little piece of KAKANGARI (K)
 class piece.You can view it and my new card,the first one made,for my
 collection on my homepage on my website.Also thanks again to dana hawn for
 giving me the info on this great site.Let me know what you think.2 weeks
 till tucson.


 steve arnold, chicago

 Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120


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Re: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny

2006-01-14 Thread Rob Wesel
A photo of the main mass before distribution can be seen on my website, it 
was beautiful


http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/collection/dorbigny.htm

Rob Wesel
http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny



Hi
Anyone have any photos of main mass or any bigger piece ?
I hear is was oriented specimen so I'm really interested to see this
meteorite.
Who right now own the main mass ?

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[meteorite-list] In The Beginning

2006-01-14 Thread roc350
Dear List,
I am a new member of the list. I am also new to the world of hunting 
meteorites. I find most of my daily thoughts to be consumed by my first find. 
The unfortunate part is, I have yet to find my first meteorite. I have spoken 
to many professional collectors and hunters. Some have given me inspiration, 
and some have me completely discouraged. I am an extreemly determined 
individual, sometimes to determined, but I find this to be an asset because it 
usually takes me to where I need to be. The bottom line is, I am looking for 
advice and possibly a little help in the right direction. I am trying to decide 
where in the U.S. to hunt first. This is difficult. I would prefer meeting a 
fellow hunter and learning a few things about how to hunt, what type of 
detector to use and where we are permitted to be. Mr. Notkin suggested 
purchasing a used fisher Gold Bug mk l or Gold Bug ll. I recently saw Bill 
Pecks Guide to North American Meteorites at a friends house. I thought this map 
may be
 extreemly helpful to me but I don't think it is available anymore. Well, I 
figured I would break the ice and introduce myself to you guys/gals, any help 
would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely,

Edward Kerr
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Re: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny

2006-01-14 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hey... nice pic Rob. I hadn't seen that view before. I've got another pic
but from the other side which is at the link below.

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/d'orbigny.html

Cheers,

Jeff



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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny


A photo of the main mass before distribution can be seen on my website, it
was beautiful

http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/collection/dorbigny.htm

Rob Wesel
http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
Willy Wonka, 1971



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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny


 Hi
 Anyone have any photos of main mass or any bigger piece ?
 I hear is was oriented specimen so I'm really interested to see this
 meteorite.
 Who right now own the main mass ?

 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stardust Webcam

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke
 
 Ron;That is a great service to the list.Thank you very much.I will enjoy  
 viewing the events.and wouldn't it be great to webcam the re-entry.What a  
 glorious sight that must be.Hopefully some of the list members will get to 
 view  
 it.Hope so anyway.
  

There's an infrared camera at UTTR in Utah which will track the parachute's 
descent.
It will be shown live on NASA TV - that's your best bet in viewing it.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

Also, check with your cable company to see if they will be carrying NASA TV.
CNN usually shows NASA TV during these events.

I'll be in the operations area later tonight, which is shown in the first 
webcam.  

Ron Baalke
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Re: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny

2006-01-14 Thread Dave Carothers
Thanks for the cool pictures, guys.

Pavlovian response kicking in [drool]

Dave
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To: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marcin Cimala
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny


 Hey... nice pic Rob. I hadn't seen that view before. I've got another pic
 but from the other side which is at the link below.

 http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/d'orbigny.html

 Cheers,

 Jeff



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 Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny


 A photo of the main mass before distribution can be seen on my website, it
 was beautiful

 http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/collection/dorbigny.htm

 Rob Wesel
 http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com
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 and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
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 Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:54 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] D'Orbigny


  Hi
  Anyone have any photos of main mass or any bigger piece ?
  I hear is was oriented specimen so I'm really interested to see this
  meteorite.
  Who right now own the main mass ?
 
  -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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[meteorite-list] ** Tucson Party 2006 **

2006-01-14 Thread Notkin

Dear Friends and Listees:

Greetings all. I have been suffering from a long bronchial illness, and 
have therefore been very tardy in some of my most important duties -- 
particularly notifying you that:



Steve World Record Meteorite  Geoff Notkin will return to entertain 
and thrill you in:


THE SEVENTH ANNUAL METEOR MAYHEM BIRTHDAY BASH  HARVEY AWARDS

-- at --

Tucson's fashionable COPPER CLUB
Opened up for us by very special request (I'm not kidding)

Inside the old Vagabond Plaza Hotel
1601 North Oracle Road (at Drachman)
Tucson, Arizona Territories
Wild West, USA

Friday February 3, 2006

Socializing begins: 8 pm
Harvey Awards presentation: 9 pm
Festivities run until:  very late

Please note: this is the same venue as last year. Our guests said it 
was the best Meteor Mayhem party ever, and the Vagabond's manager has 
very graciously invited us to return.


Your hosts:  
http://www.paleozoic.org/shows/tucson-2003/pages/geoff-steve.htm


Admission is free – All are welcome
Cash bar - merriment - music - laughs - tall tales and meteorite 
stories - drinks with funny little umbrellas in them


This is your chance to meet and hang out with some of the wackiest 
meteorite people on the face of the planet (fossil and mineral people 
are allowed to attend with parent or guardian only, please).


A real invitation will be forthcoming, hopefully, when I get around to 
it.


Looking forward to seeing many of you in a couple more weeks.


Geoff N.
www.aerolite.org
Tucson, AZ
The all-sunshine, all-drought city -- no place for wimps!
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[meteorite-list] New Pallasite Found

2006-01-14 Thread Dana
Congrats to Mike Elliott for his new find!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16583252method=fullsiteid=66633headline=pleased-to-meteor--name_page.html

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[meteorite-list] Stardust Observers Ready For Human-Made Fireball

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke

http://space.com/missionlaunches/060114_fireball_watch.html

Stardust Observers Ready For Human-Made Fireball
By Leonard David
space.com
14 January 2006

When NASA's Stardust sample return capsule fireballs toward 
a pre-dawn Utah landing this Sunday, ground and airborne observers 
are ready to record the spectacular sky diving, human-made meteor.

Much is to be gained by watching the capsule's high-speed 
reentry. Insight can be gained on designing NASA's post-shuttle 
craft, the Crew Exploration Vehicle, as well as probe the delivery 
of organics for life'ss origin by measuring the physical conditions 
of the capsule as it torches through the sky.

The Stardust mother ship is set to release its sample-containing 
return capsule on January 14 at 10:57 p.m. Mountain Standard 
Time (MST).

At that time the spacecraft is 68,805 miles (110,728 kilometers) 
from Earth. The capsule's entry into Earth's atmosphere 
will occur at approximately 2:57 a.m. MST on January 15, touching 
down at approximately 3:12 a.m. MST.

Speed demon

The 101-pound (46-kilogram) Stardust capsule is a speed demon.

When it slams into the atmosphere, it will be traveling at a 
blistering 28,860 miles per hour (46,440 kilometers per hour) 
- the greatest velocity ever attained by any human-made object 
on record.

The peak reentry heating of the capsule is expected to occur 
at an altitude of 200,000 feet (61 kilometers) above the Earth. 
The main heating-phase occurs over northern central Nevada.

After zooming across the sky, the capsule's planned landing 
site is the Utah Test and Training Range (UTTR), southwest of 
Salt Lake City. Falling slowly by means of a deployed parachute 
system, the Stardust capsule will settle down to the ground 
at UTTC and then picked up by a recovery team.

The entry duration -- from hitting the atmosphere to parachute 
touchdown -- is roughly 14 minutes, 20 seconds.

Getting an eye-full

Dispatched from the NASA Ames Research Center, a NASA DC-8 aircraft 
will carry a team of scientists and special equipment to observe 
the Stardust sample capsule as it rocket's through Earth's 
atmosphere and flies to a landing in the Utah desert.

According to various sources, here are a few tips on taking 
part in the Stardust capsule's dazzling plunge, visible from 
central California through central Oregon, on through Nevada 
and into Utah.

The Stardust capsule will approach the Utah landing zone from 
a westerly direction.

The best opportunities for viewing the reentry will be along 
Highway 80 between Carlin, Nevada and Elko, Nevada and further 
east to the Utah border. The peak brightness of the falling 
capsule will decrease further from Carlin, lessening to about 
the brightness of Venus when seen from Boise, Idaho, and Salt 
Lake City. Viewing will not be as good at sites east of Carlin 
where the craft will be seen from behind.

There will be many other acceptable viewing sites right along 
the I-80 corridor in Nevada beginning from Winnemucca, Battle 
Mountain, and Dunphy, as well as Carlin. Towns such as Elko, 
Nevada are close to the ground track but because Elko faces 
northward, it may not be as good of a viewing site.

Look and listen

It has been noted that there are relatively few good state parks 
along the capsule's path that provide public land where folks 
could set up instruments and stay for a while.

One prospect is Nevada's South Fork Reservoir, which is about 
16 miles south of Elko. This site is right under the projected 
trajectory of the Stardust sample capsule as it flies straight 
overhead about 50 miles downrange from the peak heating point. 
Whether the park is open may well depend on snow conditions, 
so those interested in this area should check with Nevada Division 
of State Parks.

Although it is difficult to pinpoint exactly the best viewing 
location, any site within the entry ground track and facing 
south would be more ideal.

Reentry experts say that Stardust's sonic boom takes quite 
a while to travel down through Earth's atmosphere. That being 
the case, ground observers should listen for the boom about 
three-minutes after the capsule passes overhead.

Incredibly bright...historically significant

One person that's in all eyes/all ears-mode for the sky show 
is Ron Dantowitz, Director of the Clay Center Observatory at 
Dexter and Southfield Schools in Brookline, Massachusetts.

Dantowitz is leader of a ground crew that departed Thursday 
from the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California. Stationing 
themselves in Elko, the team will choose their observing site 
as the weather dictates.

It's always a thrill when you see a random shooting star. 
But here's one that you don't have to go outside and wait 
for hours hoping to see, Dantowitz told SPACE.com. This should 
be incredibly bright...and historically significant.

Dantowitz and his fellow observers are set to use a unique blend 
of ground-based imaging tools. We built this all ourselves, 
he said.

Welcome mat 

[meteorite-list] Wow!!!

2006-01-14 Thread roc350
Dear List,
Wow!!! When Geoff told me to sign up for the M-List, I really had no idea that 
this is what it would be all about! All of you are the best! I have had so many 
responses from my first entry. I want to thank everyone for the warm welcome 
and all of the information you have given me already. I would also like to add 
that if it weren't for people like Derek Yoost, Geoff Notkin, Steve Arnold and 
many of you at the M-List, I would have been lost. 

Thank You,
Edward Kerr


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[meteorite-list] Stardust capsule released!

2006-01-14 Thread Ron Baalke

The Stardust capsule has been released!  Next up is the divert maneuver.

Ron Baalke
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[meteorite-list] Oops

2006-01-14 Thread Dana
Sorry for the type-o I meant Rob Elliott!  Ouch!  

Has everyone caught the new sungrazers page yet?  Its
finished and looks great by the way.  Here is that
link.

http://ares.nrl.navy.mil/sungrazer/

Gotta get back to watching stardust! 

Later Everyone!  ~Dana Hawn

Mano, the heart, is primal, the great foundation. Everything we do or say comes 
from the heart. mano-pubbangama dhamma mano-settha mano-maya ~Buddha

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