RE: [meteorite-list] Need some help with chondrite preparation.
Gday Mike, probably what you want, is the same as what I want, a flat lap, this is a disc that rotates like an old vinyl LP. You can get them from eBay in various grades of diamond grit, you of course need the flat lap machine to drive them, or make your own. When you are done grinding out all the cutting and other marks down to say a 3000 grit, then change to a polishing lap and use tin oxide or cerium oxide powder, or use a special diamond polish lap pre impregnated with diamond dust. Failing having a flat lap machine, try what I use at the moment. I used to have jars of loose grit and use them on a sheet of thick glass, start with the coarse first and work your way finer and finer, every time you change grits, everything must be scrubbed like in a hospital to make sure NO coarse grains are left to scratch your next stage finer grind or polish, otherwise its, back one step and then continue. Scrub the stone you are polishinng, the glass and your finger nails too. I ran out of loose grit a while ago, I am unable to source any more, so, I am using at the moment, Wet and Dry paper with the sheet of glass underneath, I don't know if it has the same name overseas, grit paper maybe, it comes with all the various sized grits impregnated onto it. Used mainly in the automotive paint industry. Sizes of grit, e.g. 80, 120, 240, 300, 600, 800, 1200, 1600, 2400, 3200 etc, etc 80 is very, very coarse, 3200 is super fine, pre polish size grit. Try not to jump too far between grades as it will take longer to polish out the scratches from the previous step. If you can't find tin oxide or cerium oxide from any lapidary suppliers (rock polishers) try good old toothpaste, for a polish paste, or a substance known as rouge, which is basically Iron Oxide. When moving the stone over the glass with the grit or polish. Also, when moving the stone over the grinding medium, move it in a figure eight (8) otherwise you will end up with bevels on your supposeddly flat stone. If you move it in figure eights, it will come out dead flat. One more thing, while doing it all manually, put some elbow grease into it, press hard, make sure it is wet. Some people use oil instead of water, up to your preferences. I hope that has been of some help mate. Good luck. Yours faithfully, Kevin Forbes. VK3UKF. Hello all, I am working on some slices of the new Arizona meteorite. Warm Springs Wilderness, it is an H4-6 genomict breccia S2 W1. I am cutting the slices with a small diamond blade, but do not know how to sand them to get the interior to look its best. I would like to hear about how your procedures to get them prepared for viewing. Thanks for your help Mike Miller // E-Bay flattoprocks Website // www.meteoritefinder.com Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr.. Kingman AZ 86401 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - February 23, 2006
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[meteorite-list] a reply to Hupe and Farmer
Dear Edwin, If you don't want to stoop why did you include the last paragraph? Mike Fowler Chicago From: Edwin Thompson etmeteorites at hotmail.com I hate to stoop to your level Farmer, but shut up and move to Panama. Wait, maybe the whole Panama thing was a joke or a lie or a sales ploy. Sincerely, Edwin Thompson __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay
That is very interesting, I have the same problem on my laptop when I go to the Comcast homepage, it will not open and IU get high pitched clicks non-stop. Any computer guru out there know what this might be? mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay Hello its from yesterday I have problems to enter in My Ebay page on ebay.com. When I click this not open and it hears itself a continue click,click,click of background...you have the same problem? If I enter with ebay.it I not have this problem. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - February 23, 2006
Nice piece, now that shows perfect signs of orientation. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:33 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - February 23,2006 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Feb23.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: 2006 Tucson Show EZ-Guide featuring Brenham
The 2006 Tucson Show EZ-Guide, a pocket book of their almost phone book sized show guide, was of interest to meteorite collectors this year. Hi Mark: Thanks for the nice comments on that. I worked closely with Xpo Press on the EZ-Guide. This was the first year the guide was published, and it seemed very popular with show attendees. As well as writing the short piece on Steve's Brenham, and designing his ad, I designed the cover and provided the photos. You might be interested to know that the meteorite slice, center left, is the Huckitta from the Oscar Monnig Gallery's collection, and the center photo was taken at the old Ramada Inn University, outside Blaine Reed's room at night. I believe Xpo Press plans to continue producing the EZ-Guide in the future. I found it a very useful resource during the show. Best wishes, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [OT] Sweater Left at Tucson Party
Dear Listees: After the Birthday Bash this year, we found that a nice sweater had been left behind at the club. It's a rust-colored cotton long-sleeved sweater made by Togo. If anyone can claim it, please let me know off-List and I'll happily mail it on to you. Sorry for the OT post. Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images: February 16-23, 2006
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES February 16-23, 2006 The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available: o A Matter of Time (Released 16 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/16 o Isidis Plains (Released 17 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/17 o Isidis Landforms (Released 18 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/18 o Devil-Streaked Plain (Released 19 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/19 o Meridiani Materials (Released 20 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/20 o Mars at Ls 12 Degrees (Released 21 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/21 o Smooth Transition (Released 22 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/22 o Kidney-Shaped Impact (Released 23 February 2006) http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/02/23 All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here: http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been in Mars orbit since September 1997. It began its primary mapping mission on March 8, 1999. Mars Global Surveyor is the first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, DC. Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS) and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Researchers Describe Discovery of Pluto's New Moons
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory Office of Communications and Public Affairs Laurel, Maryland Media Contact: Michael Buckley (240) 228-7536 or (443) 778-7536 [EMAIL PROTECTED] February 22, 2006 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE RESEARCHERS DESCRIBE DISCOVERY OF PLUTO'S NEW MOONS New Hubble Images Offer Best View yet of Distant Planet and its Three Satellites In the Feb. 23 issue of the journal Nature, a team led by Dr. Hal Weaver of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (APL) in Laurel, Md., describes its discovery of two new moons around Pluto - a finding that made the ninth planet the first Kuiper Belt object known to have multiple satellites. In a companion paper, discovery team members led by Dr. Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute, Boulder, Colo., conclude that the two small moons were very likely born in the same giant impact that gave birth to Charon. They also argue that large binary Kuiper Belt objects like Pluto-Charon may also have small moons accompanying them, and that Pluto's small moons may generate debris rings that orbit the planet. The Kuiper Belt is a band of icy, rocky objects and dwarf planets that orbit the Sun in the outer region of our solar system, beyond the orbit of Neptune. It has been known since 1992; Pluto is its most prominent member. Using the Hubble Space Telescope's Advanced Camera for Surveys, the team originally discovered the moons in two sets of Pluto observations in May 2005. Their discovery was confirmed in new Hubble images taken Feb. 15 and released today. We used Hubble's exceptional resolution to peer close to Pluto and pick out two small moons that had eluded detection for more than 75 years, says Weaver, who also serves as project scientist for NASA's New Horizons mission, which is on track to make the first close-up reconnaissance of the Pluto system in 2015. Pluto's previously known moon, Charon, was discovered in 1978, nearly half a century after Pluto's discovery in 1930. With diameters estimated to lie between 35 and 100 miles, the new moons, provisionally designated S/2005 P1 and S/2005 P2, are roughly 10 times smaller than Charon. They're also about 600 times fainter than Charon and 4,000 times fainter than Pluto, and hidden in the glare of nearby Pluto and Charon when viewed by ground-based optical telescopes. The scientists say this is the reason the moons evaded detection before Hubble looked for them. The Weaver team writes in Nature that the satellites were easy to see in the Hubble pictures. That was somewhat surprising because ground-based observers had been trying for more than a decade to find new satellites around Pluto, says Max Mutchler from the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore, the first person to spot the moons in the May 2005 images. But I felt almost certain even when I first saw them that they were real objects -- not any sort of artifact -- and that they were exhibiting orbital motion around Pluto. That orbital motion -- inferred from the different locations of the moons in pictures taken May 15 and May 18 -- is what convinced scientists that they were indeed looking at moons and not stray light, cosmic rays or other Kuiper Belt objects that happened to be passing by. If we assumed the orbits were circular and in the same orbit plane as Charon, we could predict the exact positions of the objects on the second day, says Dr. William Merline, a co-author and discovery team member from Southwest Research Institute (SwRI). When the objects on the second day appeared almost exactly where we predicted, we were convinced -- no two artifacts could follow the rules of orbital physics that 'real' objects must obey. The presence of the new moons in orbits with so many similarities to Charon's sheds light on the formation and evolution of the Pluto system, as well as on the process by which satellites are formed in the Kuiper Belt, says SwRI's Stern, who is principal investigator of the New Horizons mission. The new moons will be important targets of New Horizons, which was launched Jan. 19 to provide the first detailed reconnaissance of Pluto and the Kuiper Belt. The New Horizons spacecraft will fly within several thousand miles of Pluto and its moons in July 2015. Weaver says the APL-built Long Range Reconnaissance Imager (LORRI) telescopic camera on New Horizons should be able to probe the new moons and resolve surface features down to 600 yards wide. These observations build on primary mission science plans to characterize the global geology and geomorphology of Pluto and Charon, map their surface compositions and temperatures, and examine Pluto's atmospheric composition and structure. New Horizons also will map the two smaller satellites in color and black-and white, and map their surface compositions and temperatures. We're getting four fascinating targets for the price of two, says Weaver. The opportunity to
[meteorite-list] Pluto's New Moons Likely Born with Charon; Pluto May Even Have Rings
http://www.swri.org/9what/releases/2006/Pluto.htm Communications Department Southwest Research Institute PO Drawer 28510 San Antonio, Texas For more information contact: Maria Martinez, (210) 522-3305 or Dr. Alan Stern, (303) 324-5269 February 22, 2006 Pluto's New Moons Likely Born with Charon; Pluto May Even Have Rings Boulder, Colorado -- In a paper published today in Nature, a team of U.S. scientists led by Dr. S. Alan Stern of Southwest Research Institute® (SwRI®), concludes that two newly discovered small moons of Pluto were very likely born in the same giant impact that gave birth to Pluto's much larger moon, Charon. The team also argues that other, large binary Kuiper Belt Objects (KBOs) may also frequently harbor small moons, and that the small moons orbiting Pluto may generate debris rings around Pluto. The team making these findings included Drs. Bill Merline, John Spencer, Andrew Steffl, Eliot Young and Leslie Young of SwRI; Dr. Hal Weaver of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory; Max Mutchler of the Space Telescope Science Institute; and Dr. Marc Buie of the Lowell Observatory. This team discovered Pluto's two small moons in 2005 using sensitive images obtained by the Hubble Space Telescope, as reported by Weaver et al. in an accompanying paper in the February 23 issue of Nature. The evidence for the small satellites being born in the Charon-forming collision is strong; it is based around the facts that the small moons are in circular orbits in the same orbital plane as Charon, and that they are also in, or very near, orbital resonance with Charon, says lead author Stern, executive director of the SwRI Space Science and Engineering Division. Tests of this scenario will come from refined orbital data, from measuring the rotational periods of these moons, and from determinations of their densities and surface compositions, says co-author Weaver. Collisions, both large and small, are major processes that shaped many aspects of our solar system. Scientists use computer simulations to study the origin of planetary systems formed by impact events of a scale much larger than could be simulated in a laboratory. Another large collision, like the one thought to have created Charon and Pluto's small moons, is believed responsible for the formation of the Earth-moon pair. The idea that Pluto's small moons and Charon resulted from a giant impact now seems compelling. Future simulations to determine the characteristics of the impact required to produce all three satellites should provide improved constraints on the early dynamical history of the Kuiper Belt, adds Dr. Robin Canup, director of SwRI's Space Studies Department, who in 2005 produced the most comprehensive models to date of the Charon-forming impact. Based on the growing realization that binary ice dwarf pairs like Pluto-Charon are common in the Kuiper Belt, the Pluto satellite discovery team concludes that numerous triple, quadruple and even higher-order systems may be discovered across the Kuiper Belt in years to come. Finding small satellites around KBOs is difficult because their large distance from the Sun makes them appear very faint. As a result, we don't really know how common it is for KBOs to have multiple satellites, adds co-author Steffl. One good way to test this is to search around objects that have been ejected from the Kuiper Belt into orbits that bring them much closer to the Sun. So far, about 160 of these objects, called Centaurs, have been discovered. We hope to use Hubble to search for faint moons around some of them. Co-author Merline adds, If Pluto's small moons generate debris rings from impacts on their surfaces, as we predict, it would open up a whole new class of study because it would constitute the first ring system seen around a solid body rather than a gas giant planet. The Pluto system never fails to reward us when we look at it in new ways, concludes Stern. What a bonanza and an illustration of the richness of nature Pluto has consistently proved to be. Our discovery of its two new moons reinforces that lesson yet again. The paper, A Giant Impact Origin for Pluto's Small Moons and Satellite Multiplicity in the Kuiper Belt, by Stern et al. is available in the February 23 issue of Nature. NASA funded this work. Editors: An image to accompany this story is available at http://www.swri.org/press/2006/plutoimpact.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay
Hi Mike Matteo and list I haven't had any of these problems, but I use mozilla as my browser (less popup issues). I can suggest you download spybot to make sure thats not the problem (spyware). The make sure your history is cleared, and all files and cookies have been deleted from your browser (just clearing history will not remove cookies and files). This is all in your options with IE Explorer. If your still having problems, go to http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan.htm and click on the scan pc button (this only works with IE Explorer, it doesn't work with mozilla). They have a pretty good virus scanner which so far has been better than norton or mcaffy or however its spelled. Finally, having all that failed, try downloading a new copy of IE Explorer. Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay That is very interesting, I have the same problem on my laptop when I go to the Comcast homepage, it will not open and IU get high pitched clicks non-stop. Any computer guru out there know what this might be? mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay Hello its from yesterday I have problems to enter in My Ebay page on ebay.com. When I click this not open and it hears itself a continue click,click,click of background...you have the same problem? If I enter with ebay.it I not have this problem. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking for fresh OC's,etc.
Well, Im home nursing the flu and no a better way to cheer myself up than getting a new meteorite. Im looking for fresh chondrites any size any locality , US falls and finds, or any nice shaped individuals. Feel free to email me anything for sale with photos. Up to $1 K Method of payment will be paypal today. Thanks Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay
Hi List! Avant is a very good browser too! Never had any problems! Ingo --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: MarkF [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: meteor list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay Datum: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:32:49 -0500 Hi Mike Matteo and list I haven't had any of these problems, but I use mozilla as my browser (less popup issues). I can suggest you download spybot to make sure thats not the problem (spyware). The make sure your history is cleared, and all files and cookies have been deleted from your browser (just clearing history will not remove cookies and files). This is all in your options with IE Explorer. If your still having problems, go to http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan.htm and click on the scan pc button (this only works with IE Explorer, it doesn't work with mozilla). They have a pretty good virus scanner which so far has been better than norton or mcaffy or however its spelled. Finally, having all that failed, try downloading a new copy of IE Explorer. Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay That is very interesting, I have the same problem on my laptop when I go to the Comcast homepage, it will not open and IU get high pitched clicks non-stop. Any computer guru out there know what this might be? mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay Hello its from yesterday I have problems to enter in My Ebay page on ebay.com. When I click this not open and it hears itself a continue click,click,click of background...you have the same problem? If I enter with ebay.it I not have this problem. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- DSL-Aktion wegen großer Nachfrage bis 28.2.2006 verlängert: GMX DSL-Flatrate 1 Jahr kostenlos* http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Congratulations to Mike Miller on his NEW Arizona Meteorite!!!
Hi Mike and congratulations on your new find! Please post some photos when you get a chance. Cheers -John Dawn __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] a reply to Hupe and Farmer
Hi Edwin and List, I do not know why you dragged my name into this unproductive argument. I restrained myself from making a single comment but since you brought my name into it, I will respond. First of all, I think it is very unprofessional spreading rumors around about having planetary pieces. To me, this is no joking matter. My brother and I have spent a fortune putting together a planetary collection consisting of five unpaired Martian and three unpaired Lunar meteorite main masses. This was by no means an easy collection to put together and to have somebody falsely claiming to have two new planetary main masses is irresponsible. I think it is best to wait for lab results and do your bragging later. Second of all, I heard about the two planetary pieces while enjoying myself at the Reed's room. The two individuals who told me about them said that you said they were definitely confirmed. I wasted time and gasoline to come over and check out what was obviously a Diogenite and a Eucrite. I wonder how many other people went out of their way to see the same thing. Patrons of the show have enough to look at and don't need to waste their time on B.S. Take Care, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New England Meteoritical Services
is this business legit? is it on the "upup"? i have NEVER received a reply from them either be email or by tel. anybody done business with them recently? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New England Meteoritical Services
No business with Russ Kempton of NEMS recently, and I, too, wonder what may have happened to him and his sales and trade point on the internet. I remember him to be a very good, honest, knowledgeable and friendly dealer in a distant past - i.e. I bought some rare thin sections and my small Nakhla piece in the collection from him many years ago, but have no news from him till then. Last rumours I heard were that his health was poor, but nothing more ever since... Too bad. Anyone knows more and can shed a light on this? Oh, btw: has anyone heard of Joel Schiff lately, and how he is hopefully recovering? Let´s hope the best. Alex Berlin/Germany --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: harlan trammell [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] New England Meteoritical Services Datum: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:43:06 + __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: Problems with ebay
its from yesterday I have problems to enter in My Ebay page on ebay.com. When I click this not open and it hears itself a continue click,click,click of background...you have the same problem? If I enter with ebay.it I not have this problem. Matteo I have no problems here, not on ebay.com and not on ebay.nl I use Mozilla Firefox for browsing. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] a reply to Hupe and Farmer
Adam H. writes: I heard about the two planetary pieces while enjoying myself I wasted time and gasoline to come over and check out what was obviously a Diogenite and a Eucrite. The difference between these classifications may be as obvious as the difference between Adam and Greg, which hopefully ET can tackle in the next Planetary Superbowl next January. With hindsight I don't know how I could ever could have fumbled that one for a year!!!) Diogenites and eucrites may not be as much to your fancy but they are to mine. Beauty and desireability are the eye of the beholder we all know. Pretty please, not to drag such unintentional biases into the real lowly commercial point here which none of you have taken the bull by the horns to address though Mike came close, if I were entitled to an opinion which I am definitely not. But: To claim a Lunar or Martian is a better piece than the mysterious world of Vesta, that Diogenites, Eucrites and by extension Howardites are not on par with planetary specimens than those more common ones from the Moon which isn't a planet by definition, that maybe they do not offer equally or more clues to the genesis of the Solar system...Finally, quality examples of those classes are probably more rare on Earth, and further away to get - over 400 kg of moon rocks are available to study. Comments from the peanut gallery, where chopped liver, popcorn, howardites, diogenites and eucrites abound, but not as much as we wished, and personally suscribing to the belief that all meteorites are equally endowed in the eyes of their creator. Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay
I was also troubled as well as Matteo, some five hours before. But, now no problem. That may be caused by the eBay website, I guess. Katsuhito O. Tokyo - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay That is very interesting, I have the same problem on my laptop when I go to the Comcast homepage, it will not open and IU get high pitched clicks non-stop. Any computer guru out there know what this might be? mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay Hello its from yesterday I have problems to enter in My Ebay page on ebay.com. When I click this not open and it hears itself a continue click,click,click of background...you have the same problem? If I enter with ebay.it I not have this problem. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD] Post-Tucson Sale Goodies
Dear Listees: Greetings all. Well, as has been much discussed on the List, it was a great Tucson show this year, and very long! I acquired some good material, and have added new items to my website, including the best sculptural baby Campos I've seen (Campitos as my South American friends call them); a few hard-to-find super nice Gibeons; and some Sikhotes, Seymchan slices, etc. New irons are here: http://www.aerolite.org/iron-meteorites.htm Don't miss The Campo Twins. I find them very entertaining: http://www.aerolite.org/catalogue/campo-twins.htm I've also put together a new Historic Meteorites catalogue, with some Nininger material, including a fine Henbury end cut with hand painted Nininger number; some vintage Canyon Diablos with numbers from the Eugene Cornelius Collection (H.O. Stockwell's hunting buddy); some American Meteorite Lab pieces with labels, etc.: http://www.aerolite.org/historic-meteorites.htm Main sale page is here: http://www.aerolite.org/meteorites-for-sale.htm Thanks for looking . . . and . . . I'm very pleased to report that the sweater has already found its owner : ) Best wishes to all, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] identifying irons
Hello list: I recently received two iron meteorites without documentation. The original owner died leaving disheveled records, with nothing about two whole irons (approximately 3-4 lbs--I don't have a scale handy). One looks a great deal like Canyon Diablo and has a small corner polished off to reveal the iron (on a point). It is roughly 5 inches x 3 inches x 3 inches and has a number written on a white paint background. The number is 34.47 . I'm wondering if this is an American Museum/Nininger number (as several Canyon Diablo samples from there start with 34). I suspect the other is a Toluca. It is about 4 inches x 3.5 inches x 3 inches and has the remnants of a handwritten number on a white paint background. The number is 1-?,P The dash in the previous number represents either one or two missing numbers. The ? represents a partial number with loops. It could be a 3, a 6, or an 8. In addition to this number, there is a typed label glued nearby that says 1982 . If anyone can definitively identify these two meteorites, I would appreciate it if you'd e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEMS
The link I have still works so Russ should be out there somewhere. Here is the link to the NEMS website: http://www.meteorlab.com/METEORLAB2001dev/Open1.htm Best wishes, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD] Post-Tucson Sale Goodies
Man, Geoff, beautiful pictures. I particularly like the twins. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] [AD] Post-Tucson Sale Goodies Dear Listees: Greetings all. Well, as has been much discussed on the List, it was a great Tucson show this year, and very long! I acquired some good material, and have added new items to my website, including the best sculptural baby Campos I've seen (Campitos as my South American friends call them); a few hard-to-find super nice Gibeons; and some Sikhotes, Seymchan slices, etc. New irons are here: http://www.aerolite.org/iron-meteorites.htm Don't miss The Campo Twins. I find them very entertaining: http://www.aerolite.org/catalogue/campo-twins.htm I've also put together a new Historic Meteorites catalogue, with some Nininger material, including a fine Henbury end cut with hand painted Nininger number; some vintage Canyon Diablos with numbers from the Eugene Cornelius Collection (H.O. Stockwell's hunting buddy); some American Meteorite Lab pieces with labels, etc.: http://www.aerolite.org/historic-meteorites.htm Main sale page is here: http://www.aerolite.org/meteorites-for-sale.htm Thanks for looking . . . and . . . I'm very pleased to report that the sweater has already found its owner : ) Best wishes to all, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
.. in this ploy if it was one at all! I do hope all of you gentlemen do not forget the beer(s) you owe Mark Bostick. Mark is definitely not the evil-doer but the victim of whatever happened or did not happen in E.T.'s room. He comes home from Tucson, writes a thorough, detailed, in-depth report of what he saw to let those who did not make it to Tucson, who could not see (and touch) the Brenham main mass in person, and enjoy the joyous company at the annual birthday bash, participate in the goings-on there, well, he comes home to get his ears slapped. I'd say this deserves quite a few beers to compensate for the uncalled-for attack on him! My two Euros, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
Hi Bernd, Yes, I agree and I am glad you brought this up. I feel ashamed that I did not bring this to the attention of the list yesterday. Mark loves meteorites and he loves interacting with meteorite people. His work cataloging and posting popular press and newspapaer articles is nothing short of amazing and is a real contribution. He really did not deserve to be placed in a bad light yesterday. He was duped only because of his enthusiasm for meteorites and his desire to communicate with others who could not be there (like me). There are many meteorite people I would like to personally meet some day from this list and Mark and others are at the top of my list. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... .. in this ploy if it was one at all! I do hope all of you gentlemen do not forget the beer(s) you owe Mark Bostick. Mark is definitely not the evil-doer but the victim of whatever happened or did not happen in E.T.'s room. He comes home from Tucson, writes a thorough, detailed, in-depth report of what he saw to let those who did not make it to Tucson, who could not see (and touch) the Brenham main mass in person, and enjoy the joyous company at the annual birthday bash, participate in the goings-on there, well, he comes home to get his ears slapped. I'd say this deserves quite a few beers to compensate for the uncalled-for attack on him! My two Euros, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
Bernd, As you might see, I wrote that Mark innocently reported about Edwin's fake moon rock, Mark was not attacked at all. He was simply the catalyst that started the fire. As I said yesterday, I had let this go all during Tucson, but when Mark continued the lie, it was time to stop it. Do you agree that misinformation should be squashed immediately? It harms everyone involved when people report large moon meteorites that do not exist. Mark had nothing to do with this other than reporting what he saw in Edwin's room, and by the simple fact that he reported this 1.5 kilo moon rock, proves that Edwin was telling everyone that BS story. Edwin then had the nerve to claim I had dealer envy which is pretty pathetic considering the amount of real, confirmed planetary material in my display case. Let's revue, one had 11 Lunar and 10 Martian meteorites, one had a large fake Lunar, who should have the dealer envy? Anyway, this was an unfortunate series of events that led to this, and I stand by all of our attempts to set the meteorite world back on track with the truth of the matter. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... .. in this ploy if it was one at all! I do hope all of you gentlemen do not forget the beer(s) you owe Mark Bostick. Mark is definitely not the evil-doer but the victim of whatever happened or did not happen in E.T.'s room. He comes home from Tucson, writes a thorough, detailed, in-depth report of what he saw to let those who did not make it to Tucson, who could not see (and touch) the Brenham main mass in person, and enjoy the joyous company at the annual birthday bash, participate in the goings-on there, well, he comes home to get his ears slapped. I'd say this deserves quite a few beers to compensate for the uncalled-for attack on him! My two Euros, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] identifying irons
Hi ? As you mentioned Nininger used 34.### for Canyon Diablos. So it is probably a CD. If you could post a picture that would be most helpful. According to the Catalog of MeteoritesASU (1986) for Toluca he used 128 plus a letter or with the usual decimal plus a number. I guess the 128 could match with your 1-8P example. Again a photo would be most helpful. My guess is for the 1982 to be the weight of the specimen in grams. Good Luck Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list: I recently received two iron meteorites without documentation. The original owner died leaving disheveled records, with nothing about two whole irons (approximately 3-4 lbs--I don't have a scale handy). One looks a great deal like Canyon Diablo and has a small corner polished off to reveal the iron (on a point). It is roughly 5 inches x 3 inches x 3 inches and has a number written on a white paint background. The number is 34.47 . I'm wondering if this is an American Museum/Nininger number (as several Canyon Diablo samples from there start with 34). I suspect the other is a Toluca. It is about 4 inches x 3.5 inches x 3 inches and has the remnants of a handwritten number on a white paint background. The number is 1-?,P The dash in the previous number represents either one or two missing numbers. The ? represents a partial number with loops. It could be a 3, a 6, or an 8. In addition to this number, there is a typed label glued nearby that says 1982 . If anyone can definitively identify these two meteorites, I would appreciate it if you'd e-mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] a reply to Hupe and Farmer
But: To claim a Lunar or Martian is a better piece than the mysterious world of Vesta, that Diogenites, Eucrites and by extension Howardites are not on par with planetary specimens than those more common ones from the Moon which isn't a planet by definition, that maybe they do not offer equally or more clues to the genesis of the Solar system...Finally, quality examples of those classes are probably more rare on Earth, and further away to get - over 400 kg of moon rocks are available to study. Awww come on Doug. what would you rather crash through the roof of your house right now - a 100 kg nose cone orientated lunar / planetary or an HED? even if you like HEds better that 100 kg of moon rock could buy you a TON of HEDs - literally speaking ofcourse. I like HEDs to, but there is no question that the planetary stuff is better to have! :) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
And Walter, not to forget, that we poor Europeans and others, who couldn't attend the show, wouldn't know, how it was there, as until now I can find only his report and no others else. And not to forget, that eucrites can be sometimes very tricky. I remembered last year a person showing around in Ensisheim a new lunaite, which actually turned out later to be an eucrite, but I think, I forgot, who it was... Buckleboo! Martin At least the argueing shows, that all returned healthy from Tucson and full of energy! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Walter Branch Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 22:27 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... Hi Bernd, Yes, I agree and I am glad you brought this up. I feel ashamed that I did not bring this to the attention of the list yesterday. Mark loves meteorites and he loves interacting with meteorite people. His work cataloging and posting popular press and newspapaer articles is nothing short of amazing and is a real contribution. He really did not deserve to be placed in a bad light yesterday. He was duped only because of his enthusiasm for meteorites and his desire to communicate with others who could not be there (like me). There are many meteorite people I would like to personally meet some day from this list and Mark and others are at the top of my list. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... .. in this ploy if it was one at all! I do hope all of you gentlemen do not forget the beer(s) you owe Mark Bostick. Mark is definitely not the evil-doer but the victim of whatever happened or did not happen in E.T.'s room. He comes home from Tucson, writes a thorough, detailed, in-depth report of what he saw to let those who did not make it to Tucson, who could not see (and touch) the Brenham main mass in person, and enjoy the joyous company at the annual birthday bash, participate in the goings-on there, well, he comes home to get his ears slapped. I'd say this deserves quite a few beers to compensate for the uncalled-for attack on him! My two Euros, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
Indeed, but the story goes deeper, Edwin had been told by myself and others (including scientists) that the 2.5 kilo stone was a Diogenite, I have some of the same stone sitting in my office and have seen many kilos of it in Morocco and some at the show in other dealers rooms. That did not stop Edwin from still saying it was a Martian meteorite. The Lunar piece is not even a meteorite. He had numerous pieces in that case, a lot of NWA 1929. It was Edwin's first or second trip to Morocco, so I understand if he does not know the dynamics there of just how many stones are out there. Again, this started as a joke, and you see Edwin did not deny that, of course I can get Ted Bunch in on it since he helped play the joke on Jim Strope and I. He knew those stones were not planetary, but decided to keep saying it afterwards. That is a huge difference. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Walter Branch' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... And Walter, not to forget, that we poor Europeans and others, who couldn't attend the show, wouldn't know, how it was there, as until now I can find only his report and no others else. And not to forget, that eucrites can be sometimes very tricky. I remembered last year a person showing around in Ensisheim a new lunaite, which actually turned out later to be an eucrite, but I think, I forgot, who it was... Buckleboo! Martin At least the argueing shows, that all returned healthy from Tucson and full of energy! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Walter Branch Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 22:27 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... Hi Bernd, Yes, I agree and I am glad you brought this up. I feel ashamed that I did not bring this to the attention of the list yesterday. Mark loves meteorites and he loves interacting with meteorite people. His work cataloging and posting popular press and newspapaer articles is nothing short of amazing and is a real contribution. He really did not deserve to be placed in a bad light yesterday. He was duped only because of his enthusiasm for meteorites and his desire to communicate with others who could not be there (like me). There are many meteorite people I would like to personally meet some day from this list and Mark and others are at the top of my list. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... .. in this ploy if it was one at all! I do hope all of you gentlemen do not forget the beer(s) you owe Mark Bostick. Mark is definitely not the evil-doer but the victim of whatever happened or did not happen in E.T.'s room. He comes home from Tucson, writes a thorough, detailed, in-depth report of what he saw to let those who did not make it to Tucson, who could not see (and touch) the Brenham main mass in person, and enjoy the joyous company at the annual birthday bash, participate in the goings-on there, well, he comes home to get his ears slapped. I'd say this deserves quite a few beers to compensate for the uncalled-for attack on him! My two Euros, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
Mike writes: Indeed, but the story goes deeper, ... that is a huge difference. So you all get together at the next Tuscon Show in 2007 and enjoy some cool beers. I still hope that Mark won't have to pay for his planetary beers! ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
I am sure Mark and I can gladly have a beer or two together, on my dime! Again, mark is an innocent pawn in this high-stakes chess game:) Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:39 PM Subject: Re-2: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... Mike writes: Indeed, but the story goes deeper, ... that is a huge difference. So you all get together at the next Tuscon Show in 2007 and enjoy some cool beers. I still hope that Mark won't have to pay for his planetary beers! ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ...
And that's why I think that Ensisheim and Munich are the more pleasant fairs. There all is concentrated in 1 and 3 halls and the dealers aren't scattered through a whole town, so that such an occurrence never could happen, nor would a dealer have an idea to tell stories to lure some audience to his stall. If there would be a doubtable stone, all would take a look and especially in Ensisheim, where after 7 o'clock only meteorite people are on the streets, they would discuss it in the only 2-3 places, to stay in the evening, at a good beer and some ciche... Huh, can't wait the summer! Got so sentimental today, that I bought an engraving of the Ensisheim town hall on ebay... Zelimir, we still need your confirmation! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Michael Farmer Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 23:30 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Martin Altmann; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Walter Branch' Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... Indeed, but the story goes deeper, Edwin had been told by myself and others (including scientists) that the 2.5 kilo stone was a Diogenite, I have some of the same stone sitting in my office and have seen many kilos of it in Morocco and some at the show in other dealers rooms. That did not stop Edwin from still saying it was a Martian meteorite. The Lunar piece is not even a meteorite. He had numerous pieces in that case, a lot of NWA 1929. It was Edwin's first or second trip to Morocco, so I understand if he does not know the dynamics there of just how many stones are out there. Again, this started as a joke, and you see Edwin did not deny that, of course I can get Ted Bunch in on it since he helped play the joke on Jim Strope and I. He knew those stones were not planetary, but decided to keep saying it afterwards. That is a huge difference. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Walter Branch' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... And Walter, not to forget, that we poor Europeans and others, who couldn't attend the show, wouldn't know, how it was there, as until now I can find only his report and no others else. And not to forget, that eucrites can be sometimes very tricky. I remembered last year a person showing around in Ensisheim a new lunaite, which actually turned out later to be an eucrite, but I think, I forgot, who it was... Buckleboo! Martin At least the argueing shows, that all returned healthy from Tucson and full of energy! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Walter Branch Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2006 22:27 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... Hi Bernd, Yes, I agree and I am glad you brought this up. I feel ashamed that I did not bring this to the attention of the list yesterday. Mark loves meteorites and he loves interacting with meteorite people. His work cataloging and posting popular press and newspapaer articles is nothing short of amazing and is a real contribution. He really did not deserve to be placed in a bad light yesterday. He was duped only because of his enthusiasm for meteorites and his desire to communicate with others who could not be there (like me). There are many meteorite people I would like to personally meet some day from this list and Mark and others are at the top of my list. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] A reply to all involved ... .. in this ploy if it was one at all! I do hope all of you gentlemen do not forget the beer(s) you owe Mark Bostick. Mark is definitely not the evil-doer but the victim of whatever happened or did not happen in E.T.'s room. He comes home from Tucson, writes a thorough, detailed, in-depth report of what he saw to let those who did not make it to Tucson, who could not see (and touch) the Brenham main mass in person, and enjoy the joyous company at the annual birthday bash, participate in the goings-on there, well, he comes home to get his ears slapped. I'd say this deserves quite a few beers to compensate for the uncalled-for attack on him! My two Euros, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing
Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay
The problem to me its ended few minutes ago when I have put a item in my watching list and I have seen this piece its in the Guest listI am login from the same page of the item and I am enter in My Ebay...just for warning I have change the password to my account. Matteo --- MarkF [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi Mike Matteo and list I haven't had any of these problems, but I use mozilla as my browser (less popup issues). I can suggest you download spybot to make sure thats not the problem (spyware). The make sure your history is cleared, and all files and cookies have been deleted from your browser (just clearing history will not remove cookies and files). This is all in your options with IE Explorer. If your still having problems, go to http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan.htm and click on the scan pc button (this only works with IE Explorer, it doesn't work with mozilla). They have a pretty good virus scanner which so far has been better than norton or mcaffy or however its spelled. Finally, having all that failed, try downloading a new copy of IE Explorer. Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay That is very interesting, I have the same problem on my laptop when I go to the Comcast homepage, it will not open and IU get high pitched clicks non-stop. Any computer guru out there know what this might be? mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Problems with ebay Hello its from yesterday I have problems to enter in My Ebay page on ebay.com. When I click this not open and it hears itself a continue click,click,click of background...you have the same problem? If I enter with ebay.it I not have this problem. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] trade offer/gibeon for some park forest
Good evening list.I have a trade offer.As they are getting harder to get,I have a 1.115 kilo fully sculpted gibeon iron that has a BIG scoop at the end.It is kind of like an ancient scoop ladel,except heavier.What I am looking for is some more park forest pieces.If interested,please email me offlist. steve arnold,chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re: Problems with ebay
Internet explorer and netscape are both working for me at eBayI do run virus scans, have updated spyware and delete cookines regularly...there is so much crud on the net... Dave F. (my other computer is a main frame ;-) Marco Langbroek wrote: its from yesterday I have problems to enter in My Ebay page on ebay.com. When I click this not open and it hears itself a continue click,click,click of background...you have the same problem? If I enter with ebay.it I not have this problem. Matteo I have no problems here, not on ebay.com and not on ebay.nl I use Mozilla Firefox for browsing. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] If I can choose.....! (was: a reply to Hupe and Farmer)
In a message dated 2/23/2006 2:51:39 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Awww come on Doug. what would you rather crash through the roof of your house right now - a 100 kg nose cone orientated lunar / planetary or an HED? even if you like HEds better that 100 kg of moon rock could buy you a TON of HEDs - literally speaking ofcourse. I like HEDs to, but there is no question that the planetary stuff is better to have! :) -- If I can choose Would you please make mine an aubrite? They are so pretty, so delicate-looking, hard to believe they can survive the impact. And there is only 16 of them! Anyone else? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.....! (was: a reply to Hupe and Farmer)
Hi Anne, Aubrites are pretty cool for sure, but I'd rather choose a mercurian to add my collection (if I don't already have one in the guise of an angrite). David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.....! (was: a reply to Hupe andFarmer)
Cool thought, maybe more?? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.! (was: a reply to Hupe andFarmer) Hi Anne, Aubrites are pretty cool for sure, but I'd rather choose a mercurian to add my collection (if I don't already have one in the guise of an angrite). David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.....! (was: a reply to Hupeand Farmer)
You guys arent thinking big enough - if we get to choose the kind of meteorite that crashes down on our own house - i'd like my 100 kg orientated martian to have 2 little bumbs sticking out of the (bubbly) crusted back side of the stone. when excavated those bumps will turn out to be the eye stalks of one of those nifty spiney trilobites. in comparison a piece of mercury is just another rock! :) From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.! (was: a reply to Hupeand Farmer) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:11:06 -0500 Hi Anne, Aubrites are pretty cool for sure, but I'd rather choose a mercurian to add my collection (if I don't already have one in the guise of an angrite). David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New England Meteoritical Services
Russ Kempton's family has been having medical problems (I don't feel that I have the privilege of saying more) for some months. Also as you know, New England has been having some horrible winter weather. Don __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Another superb flight-oriented piece.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6608224403 Here is one that shows flow lines in layers, like some sort of strange frozen waterfall! Isn't this a beauty? Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: 2006 Tucson Show EZ-Guide featuring Brenham
I was unaware of this guide. Where can I get one next year? Michael on 2/23/06 8:48 AM, Notkin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2006 Tucson Show EZ-Guide, a pocket book of their almost phone book sized show guide, was of interest to meteorite collectors this year. Hi Mark: Thanks for the nice comments on that. I worked closely with Xpo Press on the EZ-Guide. This was the first year the guide was published, and it seemed very popular with show attendees. As well as writing the short piece on Steve's Brenham, and designing his ad, I designed the cover and provided the photos. You might be interested to know that the meteorite slice, center left, is the Huckitta from the Oscar Monnig Gallery's collection, and the center photo was taken at the old Ramada Inn University, outside Blaine Reed's room at night. I believe Xpo Press plans to continue producing the EZ-Guide in the future. I found it a very useful resource during the show. Best wishes, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- He is not a lover who does not love forever. - Euripides (485-406BC) -- If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.-Will Rogers __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.....! (was: a reply to Hupeand Farmer)
No other celestial body has influenced so many of us as much as the moon. We see it smiling down all our lives. Give me lunar! Bill PS The Sun doesn't count :P -- Original message -- From: stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] You guys arent thinking big enough - if we get to choose the kind of meteorite that crashes down on our own house - i'd like my 100 kg orientated martian to have 2 little bumbs sticking out of the (bubbly) crusted back side of the stone. when excavated those bumps will turn out to be the eye stalks of one of those nifty spiney trilobites. in comparison a piece of mercury is just another rock! :) From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.! (was: a reply to Hupeand Farmer) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:11:06 -0500 Hi Anne, Aubrites are pretty cool for sure, but I'd rather choose a mercurian to add my collection (if I don't already have one in the guise of an angrite). David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.....! (was: a reply to Hupe andFarmer)
CHONDRULES! ANY chondrite with LOTS of sharply defined, wide variety of size and colours chondrules over any comparatively plain looking basalt lunar! They capture my imagination, and I look at them through my microscope whenever I have some free time, and cruise the internet looking for pictures. Legend has it that they are almost semi-orgasmic. Cheers, Pete From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.! (was: a reply to Hupe andFarmer) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:04:11 EST In a message dated 2/23/2006 2:51:39 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Awww come on Doug. what would you rather crash through the roof of your house right now - a 100 kg nose cone orientated lunar / planetary or an HED? even if you like HEds better that 100 kg of moon rock could buy you a TON of HEDs - literally speaking ofcourse. I like HEDs to, but there is no question that the planetary stuff is better to have! :) -- If I can choose Would you please make mine an aubrite? They are so pretty, so delicate-looking, hard to believe they can survive the impact. And there is only 16 of them! Anyone else? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: [meteorite-list] If I can choose.....! (was: a reply to Hupe andFarmer)
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:06:32 -0500, you wrote: CHONDRULES! ANY chondrite with LOTS of sharply defined, wide variety of size and colours chondrules over any comparatively plain looking basalt lunar! They capture my imagination, and I look at them through my microscope whenever I have some free time, and cruise the internet looking for pictures. Same here. I like meteorites that look like you are holding a frozen piece of a circumstellar disc. A chunk of lava from some other planet that can only be told apart from a chunk of lava from Earth by the fusion crust and ion microprobe results isn't nearly as fascinating to me. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Cool stardust areogel pic
http://www.universetoday.com/am/uploads/aerogel_analysis.jpg Looks like smoke trails behind a meteor shower. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Poll : Online Encyclopedia of Meteorites
Hello to the List, I need your advice. I'm starting a mad project. I'm building an Encyclopedia of Meteorites online. 1 All meteorites from the world, with classification, picture(s), circumstances of find/fall 2 A free mode (you can just look at each meteorite file) 3 Subscription system which allows to view at the database, make multi-query searches, print reports, and the best, allows you to manage your collection online 4 It's your encyclopedia. You can send pictures, texts, add-on to improve the database 5 Advertising system which allows dealer to put on advertising for low prices I need your ideas to improve the system, I would like also the price you are ready to pay for an annual fee... Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: Another superb flight-oriented piece.
Congratulations, Mike, This surely is a 'superb flight-oriented piece' one of the *VERY best I have seen*. Thanks for offering this piece for sale. Best regards from DOWN-UNDER, *Norbert Heike Kammel ROCKS ON FIRE IMCA #3420 www.rocksonfire.com * Michael Farmer wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6608224403 Here is one that shows flow lines in layers, like some sort of strange frozen waterfall! Isn't this a beauty? Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Poll : Online Encyclopedia of Meteorites
Bonjour List, Hello Pierre-Marie, This is indeed a very ambitious project... For me the word encyclopedia is now somehow connected to the word Wikipedia... Wouldn't it be a good idea to start there and make the meteoritics entries a little bit less thin? It would be a good idea for the meteorites discoverers/recovers to write there an article about their meteorites... just an idea... Regards and good luck for your project Julien On 24/02/06, Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to the List, I need your advice. I'm starting a mad project. I'm building an Encyclopedia of Meteorites online. 1 All meteorites from the world, with classification, picture(s), circumstances of find/fall 2 A free mode (you can just look at each meteorite file) 3 Subscription system which allows to view at the database, make multi-query searches, print reports, and the best, allows you to manage your collection online 4 It's your encyclopedia. You can send pictures, texts, add-on to improve the database 5 Advertising system which allows dealer to put on advertising for low prices I need your ideas to improve the system, I would like also the price you are ready to pay for an annual fee... Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE ___ Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. Téléchargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
