[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: April 21-28, 2006
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES April 21-28, 2006 o Feature of the Week: Chasma Boreale http://themis.asu.edu/feature o Dust Slides (Released 21 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060421a o Clouds (Released 24 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060424a o Dunes (Released 25 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060425a o Memnonia Edge (Released 26 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060426a o Lava Flow (Released 27 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060427a o Dust Slides (Released 28 April 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20060428a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Says Comet Fragments Won't Hit Earth
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060427_cometsw3_noimpact.html NASA Says Comet Fragments Won't Hit Earth By Tariq Malik space.com 27 April 2006 Chunks of a comet currently splitting into pieces in the night sky will not strike the Earth next month, nor will it spawn killer tsunamis and mass extinctions, NASA officials said Thursday. The announcement, NASA hopes, will squash rumors that a fragment of the crumbling Comet 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3 (SW 3) will slam into Earth just before Memorial Day. There are some Internet stories going around that there's going to be an impact on May 25, NASA spokesperson Grey Hautaluoma, told SPACE.com. We just want to get the facts out. Astronomers have been observing 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3, a comet that circles the Sun every 5.4 years, for more than 75 years and are confident that any of the icy object's fragments will remain at least a distant 5.5 million miles (8.8 million kilometers) from Earth - more than 20 times the distance to the Moon - at closest approach between May 12 and May 28. We are very well acquainted with the trajectory of Comet 73P Schwassmann-Wachmann 3, said Donald Yeomans, manager of NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office, in a written statement. There is absolutely no danger to people on the ground or the inhabitants of the International Space Station, as the main body of the object and any pieces from the breakup will pass many millions of miles beyond the Earth. The main SW 3 fragment, dubbed Fragment C, will make its closest pass by Earth on May 12 at a safe distance of 7.3 million miles (11.7 million kilometers), NASA said, adding that skywatchers will be able to use small telescopes to spot the comet chunks by scanning the constellation Vulpelca during the early-morning hours. [Click here http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=060414_comet_map_02.jpgcap=Sky+Map%3A+The+positions+of+comet+SW-3+at+one-week+intervals+as+of+1+a.m.+local+time+from+mid-northern+latitudes. for a map of SW 3's path across the sky.] NASA's Hubble Space Telescope and other instruments have been watching SW 3's disintegration. The comet's numerous fragments stretch across several degrees of the night sky. For comparison, the Moon's diameter covers about one-half a degree in the sky. Catastrophic breakups may be the ultimate fate of most comets, explained Hal Weaver, a planetary astronomer of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, in a statement. Weaver led a team of researchers during the Hubble observations of SW 3, and used the space telescope to study the break up of comets Shoemaker-Levy 9 - which was ripped apart by Jupiter?s gravity and hit the giant planet between 1993 and 1994 - Hyakutake in 1996, and 1999 S4 (LINEAR) in 2000, NASA said. Hubble's new SW 3 observations suggest that chunks of the comet are pushed behind its tail by the outgassing of Sun-facing pieces. Smaller pieces appear to be ejected from their nucleus faster than their larger brethren, while other fragments seem to simply fade away. When set alongside studies by other observatories, Hubble's images may help astronomers determine what is causing the comet's disintegration as it nears the Earth and Sun, the space agency added. German astronomers Arnold Schwassmann and Arno Arthur Wachmann first discovered the SW 3 comet in 1930 while hunting for asteroids. Despite its relatively short orbital period, the icy object was not seen again until 1979, and then was missed during a 1985 pass. Since then, however, astronomers have kept a close eye on SW 3 and in 1995 observed its initial break up. Aside from a great sky show, the comet poses no danger to Earth and its inhabitants, NASA officials said. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Violent Past Detailed By Moon Rocks
http://barometer.orst.edu/v Violent past detailed by moon rocks OSU discovery might also shed light on the origin of life on Earth By Mollie Holmes Oregon State Daily Barometer April 28, 2006 Recent research on lunar moon rocks indicate that the moon, and therefore the Earth, were bombarded by meteorites 3.9 billion years ago. And it might say more about when life began on the planet. The rocks were originally gathered during the 1970s Apollo space missions. Those rocks that have not yet been used for research lay in storage in the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas. Now, some of these rocks have made it to Corvallis. These melted lunar fragments, were studied at the noble gas geochronology laboratory at OSU. A team at OSU led by Robert Duncan, professor and associate dean in the College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, used radiometric dating techniques to determine when the rocks had melted. The collision of meteorites with the moon cause the moon's surface rock to partially melt and turn to glass. At this time the rocks release argon and begin to reaccumulate the argon through potassium decay. The formation of the glass from the melting is like starting a clock, Duncan said. âIt resets the time for us to determine billions of years later. Duncan's team studied about 50 different melted lunar fragments. All but a few produced ages close to 3.9 billion years. This signals an influx of meteorite activity. The evidence is clear that there was repeated bombardment by meteorites, Duncan said. It is hard to find this type of proof on the Earth due to erosion and the movement of plate tectonics. By comparison (to the Earth), the moon is dead, has no atmosphere and provides a record of meteorite bombardment that we can only assume is similar to that on Earth, Duncan said. The moon is like a library of what happened on our planet, continued Duncan. It is a record of geological events present on earth. What is noticeable, however, is that the date of 3.9 billion years coincides with the date many scientists believe life first began on earth. You get this coincidence,â Duncan said. Did life begin with the end of the bombardment, or did it come with the meteorites? This information is also very helpful to NASA, which funded the research. In 2015 NASA plans to return to the moon. The more we understand about the material we have about the moon, the better we can allocate our limited resources, Duncan said. We can't go everywhere (on the moon). We need to know what to sample and where to visit. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Researchers Are Mining Old Apollo Seismic Data For Clues to Lunar Meteroid Impacts
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/28apr_skyisfalling.htm The Sky is Falling NASA Science News April 28, 2006 NASA researchers are mining old Apollo seismic data for clues to lunar meteoroid impacts April 28, 2006: Up on the Moon, the sky is falling. Every day, more than a metric ton of meteoroids hits the Moon, says Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space Flight Center's Meteoroid Environment Office. They literally fall out of the sky, in all shapes and sizes, from specks of comet dust to full-blown asteroids, traveling up to a hundred thousand mph. And when they hit, they do not disintegrate harmlessly in the atmosphere as most would on Earth. On the airless Moon, meteoroids hit the ground. Apollo astronauts were never bothered by these projectiles. The Moon has a surface area roughly equal to the continent of Africa. If you spread the impacts over so much terrain, the probability of being hit is very low, says Cooke. It helped that the astronauts didn't stay long: Adding all Apollo missions together, they were on the lunar surface less than two weeks. The odds of being hit during such a short time were, again, very low. But what about next time? Following the Vision for Space Exploration, NASA is sending astronauts back to the Moon to stay longer and build bigger bases (read: bigger targets) than Apollo astronauts ever did. The odds of something precious being hit will go up. Should NASA be worried? That's what Cooke and MSFC colleague Anne Diekmann are trying to find out. The truth is, we really don't know how many meteoroids hit the Moon every day, he says. Our best estimates come from the 'Standard Meteoroid Model,' which NASA uses to evaluate hazards to the space station and the space shuttle. Problem: The Standard Model is based mainly on Earth-data, e.g., satellite observations of meteoroids hitting Earthâs upper atmosphere and human observations of meteors flitting across the night sky. The Standard Model may not work well for the Moon. For lunar purposes, we need more data, says Cooke. Fortunately, there are more data. It comes from Apollo: Clues to how often and how hard the Moon is hit lie in data from four seismometers placed on the Moon by the Apollo 12, 14, 15, and 16 missions during 1969-72. They operated until NASA turned them off in 1977. For years, the seismometers recorded all manner of tremors and jolts, including almost 3000 moonquakes, 1700 meteoroid strikes, and 9 spacecraft deliberately crashed into the Moon. All these data were transmitted to Earth for analysis. Here's what's interesting, says Cooke. Of some 12,000 events recorded by the seismometers, less than half have been explained by known phenomena. There are thousands of tremors caused by ... no one knows what. He has a hunch: Many of them may be meteoroid impacts. Apollo scientists were very bright, says Cooke, but they didn't have the benefit of modern computers. We do. Cooke and Diekmann are now loading the old seismic data into machines at the MSFC where they can perform digital calculations at speeds impossible 30 years ago, rapidly trying new algorithms to find previously unrecognized impacts. Critical to the analysis are nine man-made impacts. NASA deliberately crashed some spacecraft into the Moon while the seismometers were operating, he explains. They were the empty ascent stages of four lunar modules (Apollo 12, 14, 15 and 17) and the SIV-B stages of five Saturn rockets (Apollo 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17). Their seismic waveforms tell researchers what an impact should look like. Also, in 1972, a 1,100 kg (2,400 lb) asteroid hit the Moon just north of Mare Nubium, the Sea of Clouds. It was a major impact recorded at all four seismic stations. When we look at the seismic waveform of that asteroid, says Cooke, we see that it has the same characteristics as the man-made impacts - good sign that we know what we're doing. Cooke and Diekmann will hunt for impacts in the Apollo seismic records using these known waveforms as a reference. In theory, they should be able to pick out tremors from objects as small as 10 centimeters (4 inches), weighing as little as 1 kg (2.2 lb). Four inches doesn't sound like much, but traveling at cosmic velocities, a four-inch meteoroid can blast a crater as wide as your desk. According to the Standard Model, such meteoroids hit the Moon approximately 400 times a year - more than once a day. (Picture a map of Africa stuck with 400 pushpins.) The Apollo seismic dataset can test that prediction and many others. The analysis is just beginning. We hope to find many impacts, he says. Regardless of the final numbers, however, their work will have value. We're developing new algorithms to find meteoroid impacts in seismic data. Eventually, Cooke believes, next-generation seismometers will be placed on the Moon and Mars to monitor quakes and impacts, and when the data start pouring in, we'll be ready. __ Meteorite-list mailing
[meteorite-list] News on Comanesti Romania fall
Hi list, I was announced today by the friends in the area that someone found two stones, the largest weighting around 400 grams that seem to be meteorites. The stones were found at about 80 Km away from Comanesti, in Targu Neamt area. Who knows,maybe it is indeed a meteorite. I'll try to obtain a type specimen for analysis. Best Regards, Andrei ___ Connex scaneaza automat toate mesajele impotriva virusilor folosind Trend Micro VirusWall. Connex automatically scans all messages for viruses using Trend Micro VirusWall. ___ Nota: Este posibil ca produsul Trend Micro VirusWall sa nu detecteze toti virusii noi sau toate variantele lor. Va rugam sa luati in considerare ca exista un risc de fiecare data cind deschideti fisiere atasate si ca MobiFon nu este responsabila pentru orice prejudiciu cauzat de decizia dvs. Disclaimer: It is possible that the Trend Micro VirusWall product may not be able to detect all new viruses and variants. Please be aware that there is a risk involved whenever opening e-mail attachments to your computer and that MobiFon is not responsible for any damages caused by your decision to do so. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Planet V (for Five, and not for Velikovsky)
Hello List, Just wanted to agree with what Rob said and to add that this List would sorely miss the thought-provoking posts by Sterling K. Webb, were he to decide to go to a more receptive discusson group to share his insights.Can't always read and respond in time to posts to this List (and I really wanted to make that joke about the connection between Planet V and Planet Velikovsky;-). Just wanted to thank Sterling for all the research time and effort that he puts into each of his posts. Would rather speak-up now, than wish I had said something sooner. Bob V. Original Message -- [meteorite-list] Planet V (for Five) Rob McCafferty Thu Apr 27 17:12:08 EDT 2006 Hello list For those people recently who were harping on about the apparent disintegration of this list, this is an example of the sort of gem which I find make it all worth while. I like a lot of what is in this post and wish I had the celestial mechanics ability (and time too) to work on it (With a healthy dollop of simulation programming thrown in too) I will restrict myself to one thought to raise regarding this topic and this is; Did all trace of this planet disappear? Does anyone have any idea where NWA3133 may fit into the picture? Rob McCafferty -- Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_webb at sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, List, With several stories being posted about the new research on lunar return samples showing that there was indeed a Late Heavy Bombardment with a sharp peak after a quiet period, instead of the Final Flurry of an ongoing bombardment, I realized that the Planet V hypothesis put forward several years ago to account for the LHB also ties in with several other new developments. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Hunk of Burnin' ... ?Hunky Hocky Puck?
- Forward to IMCA - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:59:17 +0200 Subject:1991 MUSEUM DIREKTION Dear Professor! We have a 0,40 kg (399 grams) meteorite, which broke my brothers garage door 15 years ago at dawn; If you are interested in it, we would be pleased to sell it to you. According to the descriptions, we believe that this meteorite is of Mars origin. I can send you a picture of it this Wednesday. http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/meteorit_hu.jpg GB Tisztelt Professzor Úr Jó napot kívánok, van egy 0, 40 kg (399 gramm) meteoritunk, ami 15 évvel ezelõtt egy hajnalban törte át az öcsém garázsajtaját. A napokban tudtuk meg, hogy Önök vásárolnak fel meteoritot, ha érdekli Önöket, akkor szívesen eladnánk. A leírások alapján nagyon úgy néz ki, hogy a nálunk lévõ darab Mars bolygó eredetû. E hét szerdán képet is tudok róla küldeni. H Sehr geehrter Herr Professor, Guten Tag, vor 15 Jahren, an einem Frühmorgen, wurde die Garagen-Tür meines Bruders von einem Meteorit- Stück von 0,40 kg (399 Gramm) eingeschlagen. In diesen Tagen erfuhren wir, indem Sie solche Meteoriten ankaufen würden. Sollten Sie daran Interesse haben, dann würden wir es Ihnen sehr gerne verkaufen. Laut Beschreibungen sieht so aus, als wäre es vom Mars gekommen. Am Mittwoch dieser Woche kann ich Ihnen auch ein Foto darüber schicken. D Gentile signor Professore, Buongiorno, noi abbiamo un meteorite da 0,40 kg, (399 grammi) che in unalba, 15 anni fa ci ha rotto la porta del garage del mio fratello. Abbiamo appreso solo in questi giorni che Voi acquistate tali meteoriti, cosi la mia domanda a Voi è: se naveste linteresse, Ve lo vendessimo volentieri. Secondo le descrizioni può darsi che il meteorite in nostro possesso avrebbe la provenienza dal Marte. Una foto di questo, io potrei mandarvi questo mercoledì. I Lajos Molnár Sales-Manager /Interprete a traduttore (H-I-D) H-1046 Budapest, Via : Farkaserdõ u.7 X/55 Tel/ Fax: 0036 -1-3-807-334, Cell: 0036-20-588-1652. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] o [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://eu-xoron.fw.hu Budapest, 28-04-2006. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brenham KAKE-TV Vid for Download
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:58:47 -0700, you wrote: PC users, you're on your own, but that annoying Windows Media Viewer will probably do it (nice job on that, by the way, Microsoft . . . NOT). The codec is Divx (free download here http://www.divx.com/divx/play/download/) and should play in just about any Windows player once the codec is installed. But I suggest the excellent Media Player Classic http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_players/media_player_classic.cfm (As for Geoff and his Mac use-- I forgive him) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Planet V (for Five)
Sterling K. Webb wrote: Maybe it hit Planet V-for-Five. Maybe it WAS Planet V-for-Five or a good chunk of it. Or a satellite of Planet V-for-Five dragged along for the ride when its orbit became unstable. Or... I look at my little chunks of mesosiderite with new respect. I sidle up to them at the bar and buy them a drink in the hope that they will tell me their life story... Sterling, It may be just another one of those O-isotope coincidences, like the fact that E chondrites have O-isotopic values that are indistinguishable from those of the Earth, or that brachinites have values that are identical to the HEDs, but a new O-isotope study by Greenwood et al. (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/1768.pdf) of numerous mesosiderites demonstrates that their oxygen isotopic values are almost identical to those of the HED clan, which suggests that there may be a genetic link between them. The results suggest that both HEDs and mesosiderites may be derived from Vesta; or, if you want to speculate like me - I think the arrival of Dawn (in Sept. 2011) will reveal that HED and MES meteorites were derived from a separate, significantly disrupted, Vesta-like PB. This latter possibility may leave the door open for a possible Planet V origin for these two groups. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Pallasite ID
Anyone want to take a stab at identifying the meteorite in the following photos. Good morning Jim. Well, I think we can all agree that it isn't an Odessa : ) Looks like Brenham to me, note rounded crystals with orange/brownish color. Funny, I thought I just saw another Brenham, the other day : ) Regards, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cosmic Matter
Does anyone know who is Cosmic Matter? Thanks, Michael -- He is not a lover who does not love forever. - Euripides (485-406BC) -- * If Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite ID
Wards was selling Brenham slices in the late 60's. I suspect that the buyer got the name mixed up. I had a nice piece that I used in classroom demos back then until a student dropped a large Canyon Diablo on it. Lesson: Don't leave specimens on a table for students to handle! (It was very stable too!) I don't recall that Wards had any other pallasite. Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Pallasite ID Good Morning Listees. Anyone want to take a stab at identifying the meteorite in the following photos. The owner said that it was purchased from Ward's Scientific in the late 1960s and identified as an Odessa. http://www.catchafallingstar.com/images/apallasitea.jpg http://www.catchafallingstar.com/images/apallasiteb.jpg http://www.catchafallingstar.com/images/apallasitec.jpg Thanks in advance... Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Treasure Hunters Dear Listees: Greetings comrades. Just returned late last night from our Brenham/Glorieta documentary shoot: sunburned, bruised, scratched, and battered, but what a great experience. Our Travel Channel host, the glamorous Becky Worley, jumped right into the action and was digging holes, riding ATVs, swinging metal detectors, and generally working her way through an intense meteorite-hunting apprenticeship in 48 hours flat. She's a knockout. Thanks to Mark and Ruben for posting their photos of our expedition. I'll post my own as soon as I can. Mark Bostick and his bro came all the way down from Wichita for the dig on Thursday. It was good to see some friendly faces and I appreciate the nice web presentation he put together. In other news: this Besednice character is a real corker isn't he? He's gotta be just a fake ID, or a troll right? With a name like that I'm putting my money on Jim Strope or Dave Andrews having some fun with us. Thaddeus Besednice posted: Oh great - another glorification of looting (relic hunting)! A relic is generally assumed to be a product of, or an item specifically associated with, human culture and history (i.e. an ancient religious relic), so it doesn't really work with a meteorite. Also, how can you be looting something when its owner (the landowner) has expressly asked you to excavate it from his own property? Answer me that, Mr. Moldavite. Do Any of the Brenham pits get at least a cursory record of their possible prehistoric components? They're not pits, silly. The Brenhams are completely buried, way, way underground, a bit like your conscience. An impact pit is a modest surface indentation made by a meteorite which is too small (or traveling too slowly) to produce an actual crater. I suggest reading Mr. Norton's Rocks from Space where you can learn some other helpful meteorite terms, and then use them at parties. FYI, Steve meticulously records the depth, orientation, GPS coordinates, and other detailed info for every single find. A scientific study (in association with a prominent geologist on the List) is underway to determine the true age of the fall. I can't wait! IMO the Brenham fall took place more recently than many of us think. In addition, valuable and detailed strewnfield data is being collected with each new find. The area around each excavated Brenham is carefully checked for meteorite fragments, as well as the flattened, fossilized carcass of an ancient Kansas plains camel, big sabre tooth kitty, or -- if we're super lucky -- Thaddeus Besednice himself. Steve is REALLY hoping that directly beneath one of the big irons he will discover a wafer-thin buffalo mummy. Imagine how much that would go for on eBay! I'm justifiably and unassailably an enemy of the irresponsible, counterscientific, hobbyist attitudes glorified by certain people and uncritically tolerated by others (accomplices). Good lord that's fabulous. A sentence worthy of Thomas Pynchon! Yes, that would be me, one of the accomplices. I know you're just jealous you big Moldavite. No, we don't need degrees to collect lumps of asteroids, planets, and comets, but a bit of respect for irreplacable biological taxa and cultural residues would make us more than drooling, avaricious freebooters. Unfortunately, most of the eminent scientists with degrees are too busy with classifications, new papers, and important lab work to go scurrying around in the mud with us, but we're happy to do our part. I do agree with you though -- think of all the irreplacable biological taxa that resides at the bottom of a hole in a field in a Kansas farm! If you want to
RE: [meteorite-list] A Comet is coming!!
This is what happens when you smoke the insides of too many crop circles... Delusion on a galactic scale... Good Grief! CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] A Comet is coming!! Hello List, This was brought to my attention: Hey Anne -- check this site out. I know there is a comet coming next month, but THIS? Website: _http://www.exopoliticsinstitute.org/Eric-Julien-25-MAY-2006-En.htm#_edn18_ (http://www.exopoliticsinstitute.org/Eric-Julien-25-MAY-2006-En.htm#_edn18) It's on the _www.coasttocoastam.com_ (http://www.coasttocoastam.com) website under Eric Julien. Check it out. Anyone cares to look at it and comment?;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.6/324 - Release Date: 4/25/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/326 - Release Date: 4/27/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Pallasite ID
Hello Jim and list, The olivine looks rounded and it reminds me of Brenham. Wards did sell pieces of Brenham and the specimen appears to have come from a much larger sample which would limit it to a meteorites, Brenham being one of them. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Watson Australia image
Some of you who collect irons may enjoy this pic of Watson, Australia, type IIE with an H-chondrite clast. This piece came from Robert Haag collection and was just refinished. It is a really interesting meteorite! Matt Morgan http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/watson.jpg Close-up of clast and etch. http://www.mhmeteorites.com/images/watson_close.jpg -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com http://www.mrmeteorite.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Over 100 new pieces
Hello Members! It has been quite a whilesince I have had something really big to announce. Well, I do now: Not just one, but 2 new collections on consignment, over 100 pieces. You will find there such things as a full slice of Marjalati, a Bilanga fragment with iron and a crystal, the best Park Forest end-piece I have seen with complete documentation, a U-shaped Gibeon, Cape York, a full gram of LA001 with crust, Morasko, Lowicz, Monroe, Ysleta, Guffy,Tinnie and many more.Many have pictures attached but not all, and of course I'll be glad to send pictures as soon as you request them. www.IMPACTIKA.com/NewList.htm Happy reading!! And of course, I have just updated the Catalog:(www.IMPACTIKA.com/catalog.htm). And if you really need an incentive to go read all that: Free shipping until the end of this month, that means this weekend only. Any questions, just ask! And thanks again for your repeat business, it is much appreciated. Anne M. Blackwww.IMPACTIKA.com[EMAIL PROTECTED]President, I.M.C.A. Inc.www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - 1,3 kilo Diogenite for sale
Hallo list, I have a 1340 gram NWA Diogenite for sale. It is not classified, but possibly paired with other well known Diogenites from NWA. This piece has nice black fusion crust, 2ndary crust and some thumb prints. Also you can see very well the olivine crystals inside. Serious offers are welcome. I accept WIRE transfere, Paypal ( plus fee ) and cash. Payment in several steps is also possible for well known collectors. I will ship after receiving the complete payment only by registered air mail or FedEx or something similar, so you don´t need to be afraid about the shipping security. Today I took some photos in the sunlight. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact me. Here are the links to click on it, or to copy into your browser. Download may take some seconds, because the size of the photos are 0,3 – 0,7 MB. The first photos show the complete piece. The last 5 photos are close ups of the crust. http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-01.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-02.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-03.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-04.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-05.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-06.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-07.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-08.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-09.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-10.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-11.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-12.JPG http://www.strufe.net/bilder_sonstige/odio-1340gr-13.JPG Best regards Hanno Strufe Langenbergstrasse 32 66954 Pirmasens Germany Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105 www.strufe.net IMCA #4267 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: DaG628 - Meteorite - Carbonaceous Chondrite CO3 - 11.0g
Hi folks, I have on auction an end piece of DaG628 a beatiful carbonaceous chondrite type CO3 full of tiny and dark condrules and a strange green cristallyne inclusion. The TKW is very low only 60g and this is the last piece aviable on the market. http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Immagini/OnSale/Chondrite/DaG628/DaG628_1100_1.jpg http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Immagini/OnSale/Chondrite/DaG628/DaG628_1100_2.jpg http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/Immagini/OnSale/Chondrite/DaG628/DaG628_1100_3.jpg DaG628 - Meteorite - Carbonaceous Chondrite CO3 - 11.0g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6624833549 Thanks a lot Ciao Francesco Moser http://web.tiscali.it/francesco.moser/ IMCA #1510 www.imca.cc There's just one kind of man that you can trust, that's a dead man, or an IMCA like me. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Meteorites, science, and treasure hunting (a rant)
After reading some of the earlier posts to the lists, I got on my high horse and fired off a message that apparently got lost on the way. That's good, because it was fairly mean-spirited; a private message from Mr. T in response to an earlier post was much more civil in tone. I didn't need to jump into the pigpen with both feet. After consideration (and a break to tone things down), I stand by much of what I said in my earlier, regretted post: was anything of significant cultural or scientific value actually harmed by this admittedly somewhat commercial venture? Was the boost to science outweighed by any damage done? There seems to be a trend toward modern Luddites, who try to slow or stop anything resembling scientific progress in the name of ill-considered 'sensitivities': ecological, cultural, or other. Science must be respectful of these things, but it shouldn't come to a screeching halt without good reason, and too many of the reasons being promoted today are someone else's personal bee in the bonnet, without equally good science to back it up. One of the examples I gave was the woman who attempted to sue NASA over the Deep Impact project; she claimed it interfered with her astrological projections! Until an artifact is located, examined, and curated, it's nothing but an interesting feature rotting in the dirt. Respectfully, Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Responsible science rant
My mistake; I had thought Mr. T was referring to the excavation of the Brenham meteorite with the backhoe, not the shovel of the Glorieta Mountain find. Were there actually any cultural relics in the area to disturb, or was this a case of sour grapes, where someone was peeved because it was someone else's turn for 15 minutes of fame? Regarding collection of meteorites and other artifacts: they don't become science or culture until someone responsibly locates, documents, and curates them. Before that, they are just interesting objects occupying a piece of dirt. Why is it that whenever someone proposes a new line of inquiry or development, someone else opposes it on principle, with or without accompanying theory, usually on the grounds that it will somehow harm the environment/damage cultural sensitivities/be a threat, even when there has been little or no documentation to support the theorized problem? I am thinking several years back, when Cassini was opposed on the ground that it carried nuclear materials to power the spacecraft. The protesters had it in their head that, despite smaller odds of an accident than a meteorite strike, and NO odds of environmental harm, this was a nuclear accident about to happen. Recently, we had an astrologer trying to sue NASA for the Deep Impact project; she claimed that the mission adversely affected her ability to do accurate astrological readings. The astonishing part was that this claim actually got any serious consideration. I an noting this happening more and more. Sometimes the worries are valid, but often, they are not. We shoot ourselves in the foot when we are too afraid to offend someone to do good science. My 2 bits. Feel free to be offended at my rant. Tracy Latimer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Treasure Hunters
The Kansas fields where these meteorites are being recovered have been repeatedly and thoroughly cultivated for the last 200 years. How virgin do you believe the science would be for cultural artifacts in this area? Tracy Latimer From: Thaddeus Besedin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Treasure Hunters Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:14:47 -0700 (PDT) They should be recovered, but we should be aware of how our excavation impacts other deposits. I'll let this rest, guys. You know my position by now. The same argument (it will rot if I do nothing) is advanced by relic hunters who search rivers, but there is a major difference between surface hunting and excavation, and especially in the contexts of drainages and areas subject to mass wasting. to protect their troves, looters typically do not disclose the provenances of their finds when offered for sale, if at all they have been conscientious enough to record a GPS position. Such negligence is irresponsible, and proves that the motive for these activities is itself personal gain. Seriously, the prices that these meteorites yield would be better deserved if all sciences involved with the thin, fragile surface of the earth are considered. This would be the attitude of a professional in any other invasive field. -Thaddeus - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
