[meteorite-list] Sikhote-alin question
Greetings Last night I listed a bunch of auctions one of which was a Sikhote-alin with a 2.5x2 cm circular feature in it. It is kind of like what you would expect of a large troilite except the surface (about 1-2mm lower than the surrounding surface) appears to be solid metal like the schrapnel. This morning I had an email from someone who said he had a piece with the same feature and was wondering what it was. Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 -- Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade
Dear Michael Blood, I couldn't disagree with you more on this issue. When transactions take place between members of the meteorite community there is a high degree of mutual trust involved. I trust the people I'm dealing with because I'm sure that the vast majority of them are intrinsically honest persons. I also trust members of the meteorite community I've NEVER DEALT WITH BEFORE, because the meteorite community is very small and I know that a dishonest person would not last long, because in a small community, bad news travels fast. I think McCartney Taylor did the right thing to bring this to a public forum because: 1) It gives all of us a heads up about a possible rotten apple in our midst. 2) It gives the other party a chance to state his case and correct the facts, or pay up as the case may be. I think this is much better than a bunch of private emails where the accused has no chance to respond, or even know he is being besmirched. My future trust in members of the meteorite community would be considerably reduced if I thought that cooks would not be exposed publicly. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Comment to all: I was very sad to see the original post regarding this private issue. As is almost always the case, it would also appear there is more than one side to the story, as Bob indicates below. This is an example of why private issues should not be brought up on the list and why people should be very hesitant about taking sides when they are. If the accusations have merit, they should have gone directly to the board of the IMCA, and I encourage both parties to pursue that action now. While it appears there may be significant other issues in this case, it is none of my business - nor anyone else's on the list, other than board members of the IMCA, if this issue is presented to them. I have had multiple interactions with both parties involved and found each of them to be, in every instance, honest, open and above board. Whatever there differences are - they are between the two of them and I hope they are able to resolve them. In any event, I hope we are not exposed to the issue further on this list. If it does go before the board of the IMCA, then, perhaps there will be action taken of which we will be made aware. As I said, however, even then, I would hope rather for an amicable resolution being reached leaving all parties satisfied, but in any event, off the list. Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade
I'm afraid I have to agree with Mike Fowler on this and I couldn't state my rationale any better than what he states below. Dave IMCA 2052 - Original Message - From: Mike Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Mike Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade Dear Michael Blood, I couldn't disagree with you more on this issue. When transactions take place between members of the meteorite community there is a high degree of mutual trust involved. I trust the people I'm dealing with because I'm sure that the vast majority of them are intrinsically honest persons. I also trust members of the meteorite community I've NEVER DEALT WITH BEFORE, because the meteorite community is very small and I know that a dishonest person would not last long, because in a small community, bad news travels fast. I think McCartney Taylor did the right thing to bring this to a public forum because: 1) It gives all of us a heads up about a possible rotten apple in our midst. 2) It gives the other party a chance to state his case and correct the facts, or pay up as the case may be. I think this is much better than a bunch of private emails where the accused has no chance to respond, or even know he is being besmirched. My future trust in members of the meteorite community would be considerably reduced if I thought that cooks would not be exposed publicly. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Comment to all: I was very sad to see the original post regarding this private issue. As is almost always the case, it would also appear there is more than one side to the story, as Bob indicates below. This is an example of why private issues should not be brought up on the list and why people should be very hesitant about taking sides when they are. If the accusations have merit, they should have gone directly to the board of the IMCA, and I encourage both parties to pursue that action now. While it appears there may be significant other issues in this case, it is none of my business - nor anyone else's on the list, other than board members of the IMCA, if this issue is presented to them. I have had multiple interactions with both parties involved and found each of them to be, in every instance, honest, open and above board. Whatever there differences are - they are between the two of them and I hope they are able to resolve them. In any event, I hope we are not exposed to the issue further on this list. If it does go before the board of the IMCA, then, perhaps there will be action taken of which we will be made aware. As I said, however, even then, I would hope rather for an amicable resolution being reached leaving all parties satisfied, but in any event, off the list. Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.5/377 - Release Date: 6/27/2006 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ebay auctions with rar iron ending today
Hello List,this night ending many auctions from me with rar irons. Here the Link to my ebay store.http://stores.ebay.de/Mirko-s-Meteorite-Shop_W0QQsspagenameZMEQ3aFQ3aSTQQtZkmMany greetings Mirko Sie denken an Ihre Sicherheit? Das tun wir auch . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade?
Hi Mike and all, Well, it just goes to demonstrate once more how there are more than one side to every issue and each side can be right in its own way and that doesn't necessarily make the other side wrong. Best wishes, Michael on 6/27/06 12:40 PM, Mike Fowler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Michael Blood, I couldn't disagree with you more on this issue. When transactions take place between members of the meteorite community there is a high degree of mutual trust involved. I trust the people I'm dealing with because I'm sure that the vast majority of them are intrinsically honest persons. I also trust members of the meteorite community I've NEVER DEALT WITH BEFORE, because the meteorite community is very small and I know that a dishonest person would not last long, because in a small community, bad news travels fast. I think McCartney Taylor did the right thing to bring this to a public forum because: 1)It gives all of us a heads up about a possible rotten apple in our midst. 2) It gives the other party a chance to state his case and correct the facts, or pay up as the case may be. I think this is much better than a bunch of private emails where the accused has no chance to respond, or even know he is being besmirched. My future trust in members of the meteorite community would be considerably reduced if I thought that cooks would not be exposed publicly. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Comment to all: I was very sad to see the original post regarding this private issue. As is almost always the case, it would also appear there is more than one side to the story, as Bob indicates below. This is an example of why private issues should not be brought up on the list and why people should be very hesitant about taking sides when they are. If the accusations have merit, they should have gone directly to the board of the IMCA, and I encourage both parties to pursue that action now. While it appears there may be significant other issues in this case, it is none of my business - nor anyone else's on the list, other than board members of the IMCA, if this issue is presented to them. I have had multiple interactions with both parties involved and found each of them to be, in every instance, honest, open and above board. Whatever there differences are - they are between the two of them and I hope they are able to resolve them. In any event, I hope we are not exposed to the issue further on this list. If it does go before the board of the IMCA, then, perhaps there will be action taken of which we will be made aware. As I said, however, even then, I would hope rather for an amicable resolution being reached leaving all parties satisfied, but in any event, off the list. Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- He is not a lover who does not love forever. - Euripides (485-406BC) -- * If Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD) small meteorite sale
Good evening list.I have 3 meteorites up forsale on my website under my meteorites forsale page.2 of them are pretty hard to find ones.The first one is LA LANDE,NEW MEXICO.It is a 36.2 gram slice with an old collection label and a MONNIG number on it,the next one is a 17.5 gram slice of RODGERS,NEW MEXICO,and lastly,a 12.21 gram slice of SAHARA 97176.All have pics and prices but will except best offer within normal reason.Contact me off list.PAYPAL is the only excepted method of payment. steve arnold,chicago,usa!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) small meteorite sale
Hi Steve, In case you are wondering, the specimen number below the Monnig number on your La Lande specimen is a Nininger Collection Number. Cheers, Martin On 6/27/06, Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good evening list.I have 3 meteorites up forsale on my website under my meteorites forsale page.2 of them are pretty hard to find ones.The first one is LA LANDE,NEW MEXICO.It is a 36.2 gram slice with an old collection label and a MONNIG number on it,the next one is a 17.5 gram slice of RODGERS,NEW MEXICO,and lastly,a 12.21 gram slice of SAHARA 97176.All have pics and prices but will except best offer within normal reason.Contact me off list.PAYPAL is the only excepted method of payment. steve arnold,chicago,usa!! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's Cassini Spacecraft Marks Mission Halfway Point
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Carolina Martinez 818-354-9382 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. News Release: 2006-088 June 27, 2006 NASA's Cassini Spacecraft Marks Mission Halfway Point As the Cassini spacecraft reaches the halfway mark in its four-year tour of the Saturn system, discoveries made during the first half of the mission have scientists revved up to find out what's in store for the second act. Cassini has been orbiting Saturn since June 30, 2004, studying the planet, its rings and moons. The spacecraft has spent a considerable amount of time studying the moon Titan during 15 separate flybys so far. In the second half of its prime mission, ending June 2008, Cassini will swing by Titan 30 more times, said Robert T. Mitchell, Cassini program manager at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. The past two years have been just like a warm-up. We especially focused on Titan because we thought it could tell us something about the early Earth, said Dr. Toby Owen, Cassini interdisciplinary scientist at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Owen added, Examining this world frozen in time, we find evidence that Earth may have begun with the same methane-ammonia atmosphere that marked the birth of Titan. Because of our world's closeness to the Sun, Earth has oceans of liquid water, which Titan lacks. The resulting chemistry in Earth's warm environment ultimately led to the origin of life, whereas on Titan we find only a frozen echo of early Earth: methane, nitrogen, and a suite of small organic molecules. Our planet's carefully balanced, warm global climate is the underlying reason that we are investigating Titan, instead of Titanians investigating Earth. Cassini's tour of the Saturnian system is about to take on a new pace. This summer we will begin our express-ticket ride. That's 11 months with 17 Titan encounters and 51 spacecraft maneuvers to adjust the flight path, more than one maneuver per week, said Jerry Jones, Cassini chief navigator at JPL. The first of these encounters will be a Titan flyby on July 2, followed by the closest Titan encounter yet on July 22, at 950 kilometers (590 miles) above the surface. Later in July, navigators will begin to flip the spacecraft's orbit orientation with respect to the sun by nearly 180 degrees, resulting in a bird's-eye view of Saturn's glorious rings. This gradual transfer will take about one year. One of the biggest mysteries confronting Cassini is the changes we've seen in Saturn's radio emissions said Dr. Bill Kurth, Cassini scientist at the University of Iowa, Iowa City. We've seen the radio period, the frequency of emissions that tell scientists how fast or slow the planet is rotating, change by as much as one percent (or a few minutes) over just 10 years, and we don't know why. Pinning down how long the day is on Saturn is key to understanding other things, such as wind speed. Cassini has quite a job to do during the second half of the mission to match the potpourri of discoveries in its first half. The wealth of information from the Cassini spacecraft and the European Space Agency's Huygens probe, which descended through Titan's murky atmosphere to its surface, shows that Titan is remarkably Earth-like. There is evidence for methane rain, erosion, drainage channels, dry lake beds, possible volcanoes and vast dune fields that run for miles. In addition to the Titan findings, Cassini also discovered three new moons, and some of the previously-known moons provided surprises. One of the most bizarre discoveries is a giant mountain range that runs the full length around the equator of Saturn's moon Iapetus. The mountains rival Olympus Mons on Mars, which is nearly three times the height of Mt. Everest. Other moons look like rubble piles. Cassini also acquired the highest resolution images ever taken of the planet's rings. Strange structures in the rings became apparent on the first day of the tour. Waves rip through the rings, while knots and banded structures shape them. Clumps of ice several kilometers wide are now appearing. Scientists also witnessed moons influencing the rings. The moon Prometheus was caught stealing particles from the F-ring, while Enceladus seems to be contributing particles to Saturn's expansive E-ring. A whole new class of small moonlets may lie within Saturn's rings. New rings have also appeared, which may indicate the presence of tiny moonlets. The true showstopper was the discovery of giant, icy geysers gushing from the surface of Enceladus. This evidence leads some scientists to believe there may be liquid water close to the surface. With all these discoveries in the first two years, it's little
[meteorite-list] Sorry ... no PayPal
Steve accidentally made a funny: PAYPAL is the only excepted method of payment. So ... as long as you DON'T pay with PayPal, Steve evidently will take whatever type of payment you wish to offer! A golden opportunity to unload old certificates from stocks that have fallen to the pink sheets, or dump old currency from South American countries that have suffered from hyper-inflation! ;-) --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago's Website?
Sorry, I know this was posted recently, but could someone (maybe even Steve Arnold himself?) give me the url to his website? Sure would help to include it in your emails Steve. Thanks, Anita __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Festival to Feature Its Own Stamp
http://www.pratttribune.com/articles/2006/06/27/news/01.txt Meteorite festival to feature its own stamp The Pratt Tribune (Kansas) June 27, 2006 Stamp collectors are invited to Haviland, KS for a special treat at the Meteorite Festival to be held on the Barclay College campus on July 8. One of the booths open to the public is sponsored by the Haviland Postal Service for the purpose of providing a cancellation stamp that features the festival event. The stamp contains an elongated outline of the state of Kansas with the phrase Ab Astris - From the Stars and shows the Haviland crater in the south central part of the state. Three stars adorn the upper left hand portion. Beneath are the words The Rock Stops Here! and Brenham Meteorite. Haviland Postmaster Anita Kendall says festival-goers should look for her booth in Hocket on the Barclay campus all day on Saturday. Kendall encourages collectors to bring stamped envelopes or cards with them to be cancelled for mailing to friends or to themselves. She plans to have stamped cards and stamps available for purchase as well. According to Kendall, it is common for communities to have cancellation stamps made for local events. Application must be made to the U.S. Postal Service and the stamp must contain certain information including the town, date, and state to be approved. In this case, Haviland artist, Marlene Lofgren, who designed the stamp, made sure it would pass inspection. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid to pass Earth on Monday
For details on dirks posting: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060626_asteroid_close.html Cheers DEAN --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, This coming Monday (US time) an asteroid (check the net for the size) will pass Earth at a distance of approximately equal to the distance from the moon to the Earth. I don`t know the time of passing, but perhaps someone will have the time. Scopes ready? Nets ready? Clear skies, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid to pass Earth on Monday
Dear List, This coming Monday (US time) an asteroid (check the net for the size) will pass Earth at a distance of approximately equal to the distance from the moon to the Earth. I don`t know the time of passing, but perhaps someone will have the time. Scopes ready? Nets ready? Clear skies, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid to pass Earth on Monday
Thanks Dean, I didn`t have specific details. I had just received an SMS message prior to posting and had not had time to search the web. The Apollo stream may allow us with some samples of meteorites soon. Hope that they are small. Best, Dirk...Tokyo --- dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For details on dirks posting: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060626_asteroid_close.html Cheers DEAN --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear List, This coming Monday (US time) an asteroid (check the net for the size) will pass Earth at a distance of approximately equal to the distance from the moon to the Earth. I don`t know the time of passing, but perhaps someone will have the time. Scopes ready? Nets ready? Clear skies, Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid to pass Earth on Monday
Asteroids are zipping by the Earth all the time. For a more complete list of close approaches, check here: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] METEORITE FALLING ON THE MOON VIDEO
I am not sure if this was on this list but I saw it on another list and thought it might be of interest. Clich the image of the moon and you get the nasa video which is sort of cool. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/13jun_lunarsporadic.htm?list8988 Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] METEORITE FALLING ON THE MOON VIDEO
Hi, Dean, and all, Yes - that video was posted a while ago, but definitely worth another look! One question I have about it, though: when you watch it in the larger video mode, you see the flash, then the fade, and then there is a slight, single pulse of brightening again before it fades out completely. It seems that there is also an increase of light at the tail end of the article's included Impact Light graph. The dynamics of the impact? Or could that little increase simply be attributed to atmospheric influence on the earthbound video surveillance? Cheers, Pete From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] METEORITE FALLING ON THE MOON VIDEO Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) I am not sure if this was on this list but I saw it on another list and thought it might be of interest. Clich the image of the moon and you get the nasa video which is sort of cool. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/13jun_lunarsporadic.htm?list8988 Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] correction on la lande
I have been corrected by martin horejsi about the number on the la lande piece.The number on the slice is a nininger number,not a monnig one.I apoligize for my error.Thanks again martin. steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT ALERT: Delta 4 launch from VAFB in a little over 2 hours!
Hi All, For those who live in the southwest U.S. and aren't already aware of it, a Delta 4 Medium+ carrying NRO payload NROL-22 is scheduled to launch out of Vandenberg at 8:14pm PDT this evening -- a little over 2 hours from now. This is the first launch of a Delta 4 out of California. Since the payload is going into a Molniya-type orbit, the launch direction is to the south-southeast -- perfect for viewing from southern California. The launch may also be visible from Nevada and Arizona. The timing is excellent for backlighting of the exhaust plume since the sun will set (in SoCal) shortly before launch. Skies will of course be darker for those in Arizona and Nevada, so I expect a large number of meteor and/or UFO sightings this evening. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] correction on la lande
Steve, Steve, Steve... I did not correct you. You are absolutely right that there is a Monnig number on your La Lande slice. I was merely pointing out that there is ALSO a Nininger Collection number painted on it under the Monnig number. That fact alone should help sell your piece! Best Wishes, Martin ps: now you can issue a correction. On 6/27/06, Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been corrected by martin horejsi about the number on the la lande piece.The number on the slice is a nininger number,not a monnig one.I apoligize for my error.Thanks again martin. steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] the last of the corrections
I have been informed again,there is a monnig and nininger numbers on it.Sorry for post.The last one. steve __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Steve's List of corrections............................
1) There was no URL for Steve's web site http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com/ 2) La Lande has no Monnig number, only a Nininger number. 3) La Lande has both Monnig and Nininger numbers. 4) Forsale is not a word. He meant for sale. Did I miss any? Just Kidding Steve. Ruben. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Find spot-Fall spot-Google Earth-Mystery-Questions
Hi all Walter the Newbie here again. The other night, I was looking over the Meteoritical Bulletin Database for meteorites discovered in Colorado (I live in Golden, Co. which is west of Denver right in the foothills of the Rockies). I was looking over the Colorado list that I pulled up from the database and I saw a listing for the APEX find (6.1 grams, Type L6, found 1938). I had never heard of a place named APEX. I clicked on the globe which was part of the legend, and wow, my Google Earth booted up, and a bookmark for APEX Colorado was placed in the Google Earth place list and then Google Earth took me to the location. I didn't know it could do that. My second surprise. The APEX location was about 5 miles from my apartment. It was just up my street, off a dirt road that meandered through the foothills just northwest of my place. A mystery. I Goggled the web to find out something about Apex Colorado. Apex Colorado was a town developed during the Colorado gold boom. It is now one of Colorado's surviving ghost towns. The mystery for me is this. The actual physical location of Apex is about 15 miles directly west of the find spot above my apartment location, into the Rocky Mountains. Why would the find be named after a town 15 miles away when the find is a (excuse the pun), a rocks throw from my town of Golden? And there are many other places nearby that could have been used to name the find. Another mystery. This Apex find behind my location was only one small 6.1 gram stone. Why only one very small stone. Where are the others? Further investigation into this spot near my apartment was interesting. This spot was, at one time, a plains Indian encampment. Archeological studies have been done of this site. The Indians called this spot Magic Mountain (getting creepy now). The locals whites called it APEX GULCH. How come the name of the find is not Apex Gulch or Magic Mountain, instead of just plain Apex? I surmised that the meteorite found here probably came from the medicine bag of one of these Indians who lived at the site. Can a find spot only indicate that a meteorite was found at that spot, even though a fall never happened there? If I'm tramping around the foothills and my meteorite pocket piece falls out of my pocket and 50 years from now someone finds it, would it be possible that that piece could be give a name for the find? This find spot is now all private property, but I wonder. Just one stone, or is there more up there waiting to be found. And one afterthought. If you all go rushing up there, someone stop at my apartment and pick me up, I'd like to get to meet you all. Walter L. Newton 1400 Utah Street #101 Golden, Co 80401 Home 303-279-3046 Cell 303-906-9653 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fraudulent Trade?
Michael, I don't often comment on this list, but I will this time to disagree. In this dispute the two sides are McCartney's detailed complaint and Bob Evans' email basically telling McCartney to stuff it. That's not what I or most people would consider two sides to a dispute. That's an abuse that people should know about and condemn. And what does the IMCA have to do with this. So far as I can see Bob Evans isn't a member--and perhaps the reason why is evident. Eric Twelker Hi Mike and all, Well, it just goes to demonstrate once more how there are more than one side to every issue and each side can be right in its own way and that doesn't necessarily make the other side wrong. Best wishes, Michael on 6/27/06 12:40 PM, Mike Fowler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Michael Blood, I couldn't disagree with you more on this issue. When transactions take place between members of the meteorite community there is a high degree of mutual trust involved. I trust the people I'm dealing with because I'm sure that the vast majority of them are intrinsically honest persons. I also trust members of the meteorite community I've NEVER DEALT WITH BEFORE, because the meteorite community is very small and I know that a dishonest person would not last long, because in a small community, bad news travels fast. I think McCartney Taylor did the right thing to bring this to a public forum because: 1)It gives all of us a heads up about a possible rotten apple in our midst. 2) It gives the other party a chance to state his case and correct the facts, or pay up as the case may be. I think this is much better than a bunch of private emails where the accused has no chance to respond, or even know he is being besmirched. My future trust in members of the meteorite community would be considerably reduced if I thought that cooks would not be exposed publicly. Sincerely, Mike Fowler Comment to all: I was very sad to see the original post regarding this private issue. As is almost always the case, it would also appear there is more than one side to the story, as Bob indicates below. This is an example of why private issues should not be brought up on the list and why people should be very hesitant about taking sides when they are. If the accusations have merit, they should have gone directly to the board of the IMCA, and I encourage both parties to pursue that action now. While it appears there may be significant other issues in this case, it is none of my business - nor anyone else's on the list, other than board members of the IMCA, if this issue is presented to them. I have had multiple interactions with both parties involved and found each of them to be, in every instance, honest, open and above board. Whatever there differences are - they are between the two of them and I hope they are able to resolve them. In any event, I hope we are not exposed to the issue further on this list. If it does go before the board of the IMCA, then, perhaps there will be action taken of which we will be made aware. As I said, however, even then, I would hope rather for an amicable resolution being reached leaving all parties satisfied, but in any event, off the list. Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin Question
Excellent Bernd!! That sounds just like what it is. There is no obvious troilite showing so maybe it was part of the half that split off this piece. Thanks for your always informative posts. -- Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com Eric wrote: Anyone want to take a stab at what it might be. I have no good explanations. Here is a link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=230002162891 OK, ... taking a stab at what it might be. If it is NOT one of those impact-produced surface craters that McHone and M. Killgore describe in Impact-produced surface craters on Sikhote-Alin irons (cp. MAPS 33-4, Supplement, 1998, p. A101), it might be troilite surrounded by schreibersite + swathing kamacite. Buchwald wrote about Sikhote-Alin: Troilite occurs in minor amounts, mostly associated with the schreibersite skeleton crystals which in many instances may have nucleated upon the troilite. The troilite forms 1-10 mm nodules and lenticular bodies. In most cases it forms the central part of cm-sized, intricate, lace-like textures where schreibersite filaments and hieroglyphs radiate from the troilite in structures that suggest coarse-grained eutectics (+). Similar structures are present in, e.g., Sao Juliao, Sandia Mountains and S a n t a L u z i a*. .., and on p. 1074, Buchwald wrote about Santa Luzia*: BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Iron Meteorites (Univ. of California, 1975, Vol.3, excerpts from p. 1074): Not only is the troilite elongated parallel to the present exterior surface, but the schreibersite-metal eutectics (+) associated with it also appear to have formed parallel cylinders 10-40 mm in diameter. Later, swathing kamacite has grown around these cylinders in the solid state to form concentric shells, 5-15 mm thick. Troilite forms the central part of the cylinders, but, since it pinches and swells irregularly, it may or may not be present in a given section perpendicular to the cylinders. (+) McSWEEN H.Y. (1999) Meteorites and Their Parent Planets Cambridge University Press, Glossary, p. 290): the liquid that occurs at the lowest temperature in a chemical system. So, maybe, we are looking at a cross-section of such a cylinder. Well, probably not quite as interesting as the ongoing discussion about fraudulent trade practices, but, anyway, ... my stab ;-) Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT ALERT: Delta 4 launch from VAFB in a little over 2 hours!
Dear Rob and List, A big thanks to Rob for the information! Had clouds here in Redondo Beach so it was not as spectacular as usual but always worth seeing. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Delta_4_launch_p1.jpg Timed this shot just a second or 2 late and then it was lost in the clouds. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Delta_4_launch_p2.jpg 3rd shot through a thinning in the clouds. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Delta_4_launch_p3.jpg Could barely see firing of 2nd stage, no picture. Thanks again Rob! Paul At 06:04 PM 6/27/2006, Matson, Robert wrote: Hi All, For those who live in the southwest U.S. and aren't already aware of it, a Delta 4 Medium+ carrying NRO payload NROL-22 is scheduled to launch out of Vandenberg at 8:14pm PDT this evening -- a little over 2 hours from now. This is the first launch of a Delta 4 out of California. Since the payload is going into a Molniya-type orbit, the launch direction is to the south-southeast -- perfect for viewing from southern California. The launch may also be visible from Nevada and Arizona. The timing is excellent for backlighting of the exhaust plume since the sun will set (in SoCal) shortly before launch. Skies will of course be darker for those in Arizona and Nevada, so I expect a large number of meteor and/or UFO sightings this evening. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Find spot-Fall spot-Google Earth-Mystery-Questions
Hi, Walter, List The Catalog gives the find location as Apex Gulch. It goes on, A single, crusted mass weighing 6.1g was found during the excavation of an ancient Indian camping site in the foothills west of Denver, five miles N of Morrison. This site subsequently became known as the Magic Mountain site. Though found in September of 1938, it was not noticed that it was a meteorite until 1983. Sharp-eyed guys, those anthropolgists... It's in the Denver Museum. There is definitely something spooky about visiting an old one-stone fall site. I live very near (eight miles) from Benld, Illinois, where on the nicely coincident date of Sept. 29, 1938, the 1770.5 grams of the BENLD (H6) meteorite smashed through a garage roof, a car roof, its back seat, floorboards, and ended up, intact, sitting on the cracked concrete floor of the garage. It was the first recorded meteorite to hit a car, even if the rock from the heavens did have to chase it into the garage and nail it there! Good way to break into the Biz, though; it's now a star resident of the Field Museum. I been to the old town newspaper in Benld, read the article on the now yellowed front page of the next morning's newspaper, and tried to find the address of the house where it fell. I was only able to laboriously pin it down to a 2-3 block square, still... I stood there on a hot summer afternoon and looked at all those small neat plots of grass surrounding the little 1920-30's 4- or 5-room bungalow houses. With all the fuss of having your car perforated by a meteorite -- it must have created a furor among the neighbors -- do you suppose anybody thought to look any OTHER stones? I thought about an H6 going fast enough to puncture roofs (garage and car). Why, if it hit grass and dirt, it would be a foot deep or more (depending on how wet or dry the soil). I wondered how much these folks would mind a sort of neighbor (only eight miles away) going over their yards with a metal detector? Hmm... Reality always has its little tricks up its sleeve. When I struck up a conversation with the oldest still cognitive resident I could find, I discovered that the New South Subdivision, as it was called, had been built on a gulch filled with the bulldozed remains of a burned-out and bankrupt IRONWORKS! Why, he said, you can't even put in a garden, your spade hits so much iron and brick and glass! No, this dirt is no good for anything but grass. And it's even hard to get grass to grow... So, if there are kilos more of the famous BENLD, they have chosen a really good hiding spot to rust away in. It's not clear from the Catalog whether the sneaky little APEX was found in a cultural context, or just discovered in the course of the dig. Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Walter L. Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Find spot-Fall spot-Google Earth-Mystery-Questions Hi all Walter the Newbie here again. The other night, I was looking over the Meteoritical Bulletin Database for meteorites discovered in Colorado (I live in Golden, Co. which is west of Denver right in the foothills of the Rockies). I was looking over the Colorado list that I pulled up from the database and I saw a listing for the APEX find (6.1 grams, Type L6, found 1938). I had never heard of a place named APEX. I clicked on the globe which was part of the legend, and wow, my Google Earth booted up, and a bookmark for APEX Colorado was placed in the Google Earth place list and then Google Earth took me to the location. I didn't know it could do that. My second surprise. The APEX location was about 5 miles from my apartment. It was just up my street, off a dirt road that meandered through the foothills just northwest of my place. A mystery. I Goggled the web to find out something about Apex Colorado. Apex Colorado was a town developed during the Colorado gold boom. It is now one of Colorado's surviving ghost towns. The mystery for me is this. The actual physical location of Apex is about 15 miles directly west of the find spot above my apartment location, into the Rocky Mountains. Why would the find be named after a town 15 miles away when the find is a (excuse the pun), a rocks throw from my town of Golden? And there are many other places nearby that could have been used to name the find. Another mystery. This Apex find behind my location was only one small 6.1 gram stone. Why only one very small stone. Where are the others? Further investigation into this spot near my apartment was interesting. This spot was, at one time, a plains Indian encampment. Archeological studies have been done of this site. The Indians called this spot Magic Mountain (getting creepy now). The locals whites called it APEX GULCH. How come the name of the find is not Apex Gulch or Magic Mountain, instead of just plain
