date:20060809

Hello All,

Just wanted to let all of us know that list member Jörn Koblitz, the author
of MetBase, has been assigned the Meteoritical Society's 2006 Service Award
to honor his efforts in promoting research and education in meteoritics and
planetary science ...

Reference: MAPS 41, Supplement, A11 (2006)

Sincere congratulations, Jörn!

Cheers, Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Gibeon Request

On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 09:02:11 -0400, you wrote:

failed.  Geller bombed on the Tonight Show years ago because Johnny 
Carson, a former professional magician, made sure Geller and his 
people never got anywhere near any of the objects he was going to 
bend.  Predictably, the vibes weren't very good for Geller that evening !

The same thing happened a few years back on The Don and Mike radio show (a show
NOT known for giving guests an easy time).  They didn't allow him to see or
handle the materials that they wanted him to bend before he was supposed to do
it.  He told them the I'm not a machine, I can't perform on command line, they
told him if he wasn't going to do it, then leave, and he left.
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[meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

2006-08-09 Thread Bjorn Sorheim



Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway:
A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the
first rains after the July 14th fall.
A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage.
10 cm down in the roof  the cause of the leakage was found,
another meteorite!
This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g).
It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo
by the company owning the storage building.
This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in
April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.)


http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009


Bjørn Sørheim,
in Norway


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[meteorite-list] AD - Excellent Auctions Ending Today, etc. - NICE NICE

2006-08-09 Thread Greg Hupe


Dear List Members,

I have many excellent auctions ending today, tomorrow and next Tuesday, 
including the remaining 7 specimens of my new CO3.2, NWA 4441 (I re-loaded 
the available ones last night to end on next Tuesday). These are all under 
my eBay seller name, NaturesVault.


Below are direct links to the CO3.2 specimens and some other great deals for 
you to consider. In order for me to get caught up with last weeks flurry of 
activity here, I will not be loading new auctions tonight, but will start a 
new run at the beginning of the week. I am making progress going through 
boxes and bags of meteorites here, but it will take some time to get truly 
caught up (maybe in time for the Denver Show!?).


Remaining 7 Specimens of NWA 4441 CO3.2:
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In addition to these great deals, I also have the last of the 1-kilo lots of 
NWA 869 material currently available, 1-kilo lots of Unclassified Saharans, 
Individuals and too many others to list. To see all that I have available, 
click on one of the above links and then click View seller's other items. 
That, or go to eBay and search for items by seller, NaturesVault.


Thank you for looking and be sure to keep checking back as I will be loading 
new and interesting items over the next couple of months.


Best regards,
Greg


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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:00:10 +0200, you wrote:


http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009


Here's the article in English:

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1415787.ece
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[meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

2006-08-09 Thread Bjorn Sorheim



Here is another article.
As it is at this point (there has been 3 versions in the last
two hours), in the second picture the caption says that it melted
through the roof covering! And looking at the picture it
actually looks like it did! Pretty amazing..
The third picture is not of this case, but a metal piece earlier
suspected to be a meteorite.


http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostfold/1.825791

English article:
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1415787.ece
(repeats the 1969 error!)

First article:
http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009


Bjørn Sørheim,
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[meteorite-list] Re: Odd uses for meteorites - Not

2006-08-09 Thread Daniel H. Fronefield

Having used meteorite extensively for making knives, I can tell you that 
Gibeon will bend some, but not well. Cracks and breaks will happen as all 
irons have inclusions and micro-cracks. Heating to a forgable temperature will 
make the widmanstatten pattern disappear, and unless the person forging it is 
skilled, you'll end up with a crumbled mass of metal scattered all over the 
ground (don't ask how I learned that) G.

I see nothing paticularly odd in using meteorite as the bolsters, handles or 
in the blades of my knives (or as guitar picks or jewelry, etc.)  I slice 
them, polish them and display them on a usable item.  What do most collectors 
do?  Slice them, polish them and display them on a shelf.  I also melt Nantan 
and other cuttings from iron meteorites and add carbon to create a hardenable 
steel with a wow factor.  Can anyone really tell me that there is a better 
use for these cuttings (created by normal meteorite preparation)?  For 
rusted, silicated, crumbling Nantan?

I would be willing to bet that normal preparation of meteorites for 
distribution, i.e. cutting, breaking, polishing, etc. has wasted more 
meteorite than all the the other odd uses combined.

Dan

Handmade Knives by D. Fronefield
Specializing in Meteorites and other exotic materials
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Odd uses for meteorites - Not

Dan wrote:

Having used meteorites extensively for making knives, I can tell you that 
 Gibeon will bend some, but not well. Cracks and breaks will happen as all 
 irons have inclusions and micro-cracks. Heating to a forgable temperature 
 will make the widmanstatten pattern disappear, and unless the person forg-
 ing it is skilled, you'll end up with a crumbled mass of metal scattered
 all over the ground.


Hello Dan and List,

Here's an excerpt from Burke:


BURKE J.G. (1986) Cosmic Debris, Meteorites in History, pp. 234-235:

The phosphorus and sulfur content, number, and distribution of inclusions,
the amount of corrosion, the structure, the temperature to which the iron
is heated, and the length of time it remains at temperature - all influence
the forgeability of a meteoritic iron. However, blacksmiths and scientists
have forged or attempted to forge many; Buchwald lists almost a hundred that
show unmistakable evidence of artificial reheating.


Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Odd uses for meteorites - Not

On 09 Aug 2006 14:40:46 UT, you wrote:

The phosphorus and sulfur content, number, and distribution of inclusions,
the amount of corrosion, the structure, the temperature to which the iron
is heated, and the length of time it remains at temperature - all influence
the forgeability of a meteoritic iron. However, blacksmiths and scientists
have forged or attempted to forge many; Buchwald lists almost a hundred that
show unmistakable evidence of artificial reheating.

I ran across this page last night while doing some light browsing on the
workability of meteoritic iron.  It is a fascinating read:

http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/~cowen/~GEL115/115CH5.html
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[meteorite-list] Re: Odd uses for meteorites - Not

2006-08-09 Thread Daniel H. Fronefield

Yes, meteorite can be forged and I along with many others have made it happen. 
I usually have to flux extensively, work slowly at first (very light blows to 
consolidate the mass), fold many times and as noted, squirt out the 
impurities. Not something accomplished easily by someone who has not done any 
forge welding previously.  My main point was that the widmanstatten pattern 
disappears at forging temps ... actually well before reaching forging temps. 
The person looking for the Gibeon bars would be better served using a single 
Gibeon mass of appropriate size, forging, folding, forging ... and then 
drawing it out to the length wanted and then shaping into a circle.

Dan

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[meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

2006-08-09 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie

Wonderful find !It reminds me of the Alby-sur-Cheran french eucrite which fell in 2002 on the roof of an industry building. "In the morning of Monday March 18, 2002 by a
rainy weather, at 0830 hrs, a storekeeper warns the discoverer of the
meteorite that there's a water leakage in the storeroom of the factory.
One of his colleague, M. Petit, goes immediately on the roof and
discovers a hole in the bitumen of the roof. He temporarily stops it
with rag, adhesive and covers it with a plate with bitumen and he
contacts a company to make final repair.

On friday March 22, 2002, the discoverer, M. Bouchet, was on the
roof of the factory t omake a control of the work. Before setting out
again, he looks at the hole, removes the protection and he finds a kind
of black stone with a broken part which lets see a grey matter. The
aspect of "stone", the geographical situation (in height) of the
building and the "force" necessary to create this hole immediately
convinced him that it could be a a meteorite. It was 1145hrs. A second
piece of 13g is found in the afternoon and sent to the Museum in Paris
for an analysis.

According to Mr. Bouchet, the fall had to occur between the 4 and
on February 12, 2002. 21 other micro fragments were recovered later on
in the roof, carrying the total mass of this fall with 256.01g."Pierre-Marie PELEwww.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.comwww.meteor-center.com__
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Re: [meteorite-list] Odd Gibeon Request

2006-08-09 Thread Charlie Devine

While I have never seen incontrovertible proof for the existence of PK
or TK, in general research into these areas is part of the much broader
research into the relationship of consciousness and the physical
universe, whether macro or micro(quantum).  I personally find such
research to be one of the truly exciting frontiers of scientific
research.
See, for example, http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/
The random number generator experiments at this Princeton facility are
of particular interest where speculation regarding PK is concerned.

Regards,
Charlie

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Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - August9, 2006

2006-08-09 Thread Martin Horejsi


Hi Geoff and All,

I too have a somewhat similar feature on an Sikhote-Alin individual.
However, embedded within my oddity is a wonderful rendition of Edvard
Munch's The Scream. Here is a pic:

http://www.geocities.com/planetwhy/sa_scream.jpg

And for more info on The Scream:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scream

Cheers,

Martin
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[meteorite-list] Another possible impact scar

Dirk Ross has found another possible new impact scar, this one in the
continental US.  I agreed to host the image for him:
http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/circularevidence.jpg

He asks that anyone wanting to meet the challenge of finding the coordinates
e-mail him off-list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), the winner to be announced later.
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[meteorite-list] Another Meteorite Recovered in Norway


http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1415787.ece

Meteorite in Moss
Rolf L. Larsen 
Aftenpoften (Norway)
August 9, 2006

For the first time since 1969 a meteorite has gone through a European roof.

The nearly 700 gram (24.7 ounce) meteorite landed on the roof of a
warehouse belonging to wholesale group Norgesgruppen in Moss, a town 65
kilometers south of the capital in the Oslo fjord.

The object was found last week after a water leak appeared in a warehouse.

It must have had incredible speed and force, and had made a hole in a
steel plate in the roof. People from a firm we hired in to find the
reason for the leak found a black stone in the roof construction,
Norgesgruppen press contact Per Roskifte told Aftenposten.no.

Today Astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard from the Astrophysics
Institute and Natural History Museum director Elen Roaldset were present
to accept the Norgesgruppen meteorite.

It has been a fantastic meteorite summer. This is a very rare
meteorite, a so-called carbon meteorite, and it will get a fine spot
amongst our others at the museum, said geologist Roaldset.

This is an exceptional find! This is the first time since 1969 that a
meteorite has gone through a roof anywhere in Europe. The meteorite is a
so-called carbon - CO-meteorite. Previously only five falls of
CO-meteorites have been observed on Earth, and the last one occurred in
Russia in 1937, said an enthusiastic Ødegaard.

On July 14 a huge fireball flared across the sky in the southeast part
of eastern Norway. Witnesses spread across a large area could observe
the object while it roared and thundered across from a distance of up to
300 kilometers. The Norgesgruppen meteorite is part of this object that
broke up over eastern Norway.

Bus driver Ragnar Martinsen was sitting in his cabin outhouse when he
heard the noise.

I thought it was an exercise at Rygge Air Station. The bang and
rumbling in the air over the cabin was terrible, Martinsen told
Aftenposten on July 16. A small, 35-gram piece of stone hit the ground a
few meters away from him, an extremely rare sighting of impact.

Two days later a new and much larger piece of the meteorite was found in
a garden near Moss. This 750-gram chunk hit a plum tree, breaking off
three branches before burying itself seven centimeters (3 inches) deep
in the lawn. The rock was found after the Johansen family returned from
their holiday and tried to mow the lawn.

These three finds are the only pieces of the July 14th sighting found so
far - and Ødegaard urges people in the area to keep looking for more.
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[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images: August 3-9, 2006


MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
August 3-9, 2006

The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:

o Northern Gullies (Released 03 August 2006)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/03

o Radiant Bowl (Released 04 August 2006)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/04

o Little One (Released 05 August 2006)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/05

o Chain Gang (Released 06 August 2006)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/06

o Buried Ends (Released 07 August 2006)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/07

o Mars at Ls 93 Degrees (Released 08 August 2006)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/08

o Bright Iani (Released 09 August 2006)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2006/08/09


All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html

Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the 
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as 
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.

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[meteorite-list] SMART-1 Image: An Oblique Look on the North Lunar Far West


http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/SMART-1/SEM787BUQPE_0.html

An oblique look on the north lunar far west
SMART-1
European Space Agency 
9 August 2006

This image, taken by the Advanced Moon Imaging Experiment (AMIE) on
board ESA's SMART-1 spacecraft, provides an 'oblique' view of the lunar
surface towards the limb, around the Mezentsev, Niepce and Merrill
craters, on the far side of the Moon.
 
This cratered terrain is similar in topography to near-side highlands,
says SMART-1 Project scientist Bernard Foing, while the far-side
equator bulge can reach heights of 7 km, and the South Pole Aitken basin
has depths down to 8 km.

AMIE obtained this sequence on 16 May 2006. The imaged area is centred
at a latitude of 73Âº North and a longitude of 124Âº West(or 34 Âº further
than the West limb seen from Earth).

Normally, the SMART-1 spacecraft points the AMIE camera straight down,
in the so-called Nadir pointing mode. In this image, AMIE was looking
out 'the side window' and pointing towards the horizon, showing all
craters in an oblique view. The largest craters shown are Mezentesev,
Niepce and Merrill, located on the lunar far side, not visible from the
Earth. Mezentsev is an eroded crater 89 kilometres in diameter, while
Niepce and Merrill have the same size 57 km.

 
 
Mezentsev is named after Yourij Mezentsev, a Soviet engineer (1929 -
1965) who was one of the first people to design rocket launchers. Joseph
Niepce was the French inventor of photography (1765 - 1833), while Paul
Merrill was an American astronomer (1887 - 1961).
 
 
For more information:
 
Bernard H. Foing
ESA SMART-1 Project Scientist
Email: bernard.foing @ esa.int

Jean-Luc Josset
SPACE-X Space Exploration Institute
Email: jean-luc.josset @ space-x.ch

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[meteorite-list] tragedies of history related to impact research OT: delete! IF easily offended

2006-08-09 Thread drtanuki

Dear List,

Delete BEFORE you are offended, if easily offended.



Others may scroll down to read.  This is NOT from
anyone other than myself, dirk ross...Tokyo.









  Greetings.

  Perhaps some of you understand the significance of
the above dates.  Those that do...please take the time
to reflect on our collective past and take positive
action for our future by educating and voicing
strongly against the use of this most insane weapon
man has created; life is too short.

  Unfortunately, the human historically has proven
himself not to be worthy of his responsibility to be
the caretaker of this small blue marble, that we
call home, Earth.  Change!  

  Think! Speak out and Teach your children wisely.
History repeats and we remain dumb due to education
by our  governments, conventional educational systems
and media.

  To those that do not recognize the significance of
these dates, you are not alone ...even most modern
Japanese have forgotten; truly this is sad.

  August 6...Hiroshima...August 9...Nagasaki

  The first event has been and still is used as a
physical model for calculating, indirectly, impact
energy release from the size of an impact crater.

  Please take a moment from you busy schedule; reflect
and awaken.  It is not too late.

  Best Always in LIFE! 
Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

History is too late; it has Past.  Y/Our Future CAN be
changed if u/we change y/our Present.  Leave y/our
children with love, wisdom, hope and a live peaceful
blue marble.  drs



  

   
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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

2006-08-09 Thread Michael L Blood

Hi Bjorn  all,
Great photo a little trouble reading the text
I guess this means not one gram of this meteorite
will be available to collectors.
Michael


on 8/9/06 7:00 AM, Bjorn Sorheim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway:
 A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the
 first rains after the July 14th fall.
 A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage.
 10 cm down in the roof  the cause of the leakage was found,
 another meteorite!
 This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g).
 It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo
 by the company owning the storage building.
 This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in
 April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.)
 
 
 http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009
 
 
 Bjørn Sørheim,
 in Norway
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Tutankhamen's dagger made from meteoritic iron

Hi Darren and List,

Darren wrote:

I ran across this page last night while doing some light browsing
 on the workability of meteoritic iron. It is a fascinating read:

http://www-geology.ucdavis.edu/~cowen/~GEL115/115CH5.html


This online text states:

Tutankhamen had with him a truly royal weapon: an iron dagger with a
hilt and sheath of gold decorated with rock crystal. The dagger blade
had not rusted in more than 3000 years, and we do not know how it was
forged. A set of 16 small iron chisels was also buried with the king.
This gives some idea of the value of iron at the time.

Darren, I'm going to send you a picture of King Tut's meteoric
dagger in a private copy of this mail. I also have a color pic
of one of his pectorals with that scarab made from Libyan Desert
Glass (LDG) if you or anyone should be interested.


Best wishes,

Bernd  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tutankhamen's dagger made from meteoritic iron

On 09 Aug 2006 18:31:05 UT, you wrote:

Darren, I'm going to send you a picture of King Tut's meteoric
dagger in a private copy of this mail. I also have a color pic
of one of his pectorals with that scarab made from Libyan Desert
Glass (LDG) if you or anyone should be interested.

Thanks for the photo, I've uploaded it to my web space here if anyone else wants
to see it (I could show the scarab, too, if you send it along)

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/DAGGER-01a.jpg

Also, does anyone have an image of the heiroglyph for heavenly iron mentioned
in that article?
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[meteorite-list] Egyptian Hieroglyph for heavenly iron and heavenly stone

Darren inquired:

Also, does anyone have an image of the hieroglyph
 for 'heavenly iron' mentioned in that article?

Hello Darren and List,

The Ancient Egyptian hieroglyph for meteoritic iron is rendered by the
following eight signs: leg - flowering reed - Egyptian vulture - tusk
of an elephant - ripple of water - sky - sand grain - and finally three
vertical strokes to indicate a grammatical plural = sand grains and the
symbols should be read as: bjaa-n-pt.

Let's now look at the three hieroglyphic symbols for a meteoritic stone:

a well full of water, a leg, and a garden pool.

This word is pronounced exactly like the above word for meteoritic iron but
without the 'n-pt' syllable. It can also stand for the words 'hematite' or
'magnetite'. Until 1987, the front cover of METEORITICS showed a logo in the
lower right corner which was meant to be a graphic representation of the word
'meteorite' but it was misspelled and resembled more the ancient Egyptian word
for 'iron ore' or 'telluric iron', which is pronounced exactly the same way (= 
bjaa).


Cheers,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Hieroglyphs within the scarab jewelry

Dirk wrote:

Has anyone deciphered the hieroglyphs within the
 scarab jewelry that you have shared with the list?


Hello Dirk and List,

Which part of the breastplate are you referring to? As soon as
I know, I will try and look into it as soon as possible. It's
bedtime here (23h 55m) and we've been on our feet since 04 hrs
this morning as we had to drive to the Frankfurt airport to pick
up our son who came back from his summer vacation on the beautiful
island of Bali.

I wrote as soon as possible because a lot of work is waiting for
me in the house, around the house, and in our garden. My previous
posts were reposts - that's why I was able to respond so quickly
and when I wrote them some years ago, I was much more familiar with
hieroglyphics than I am now!

Have a Good Night and
Sweet Dreams Everybody,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

2006-08-09 Thread meteoritehunter

What do you mean? I have been posting for a week that I have over 350 grams of 
this meteorite which will soon be for sale. Or do you mean the roof smasher 
piece? I for one, am glad that a stone of such beauty will remain intact, and 
not be smashed up for sale on ebay.
Michael Farmer
 -- Original message --
From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hi Bjorn  all,
 Great photo a little trouble reading the text
 I guess this means not one gram of this meteorite
 will be available to collectors.
 Michael
 
 
 on 8/9/06 7:00 AM, Bjorn Sorheim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway:
  A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the
  first rains after the July 14th fall.
  A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage.
  10 cm down in the roof  the cause of the leakage was found,
  another meteorite!
  This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g).
  It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo
  by the company owning the storage building.
  This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in
  April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.)
  
  
  http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009
  
  
  Bjørn Sørheim,
  in Norway
  
  
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[meteorite-list] Muonionalusta, Sweden Report

2006-08-09 Thread meteoritehunter

Hi everyone, we finally got some internet access here in Sweden, for the last 
10 days I have been driving every other day to Finland to check emails, now I 
should have daily access until I leave for home. 
Well, today was my 8th day hunting, and I suppose you all saw the email that I 
found a 47 kilogram iron on my birthday, August 4th.  Since then, Robert Ward 
and I have been searching hard for days with no success. Well, today we changed 
that up a bit. I found a 25 kilogram regmaglypted piece after an hour of 
searching this afternoon. Robert then found an 8 kilogram piece a little later. 
Then he got a weak signal with the 2x2 meter coil and no signal with the 
Minelab, so we knew he had a deep one. We dug for nearly two hours in glacial 
till, removing large rocks of at least 40 and 50 kilos, then found the 
meteorite at 1.6 meter deep. We thought for sure it would be a large one, but 
alas, he found a beautiful 4 kilogram Muonionalusta shaped just like a shoe!
 Well, I have all of tomorrow to search, then Friday driving half the 
day to ship my pieces as air cargo, then back for an afternoon of hunting, then 
out of here on Saturday. Monday night I will be home at last, free from the 
knats and mosquitos that have surely sucked a pint or two of blood from me!
This has certainly been an interesting 3 weeks in the meteorite world.
Michael Farmer
Muonionalusta, Sweden
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Re: [meteorite-list] A new 676 g meteorite went through storage building in Moss

2006-08-09 Thread meteoritehunter

Thanks Bjorn,
It was nice to meet you in Moss. 
I am glad to see the stone protected in the museum in Norway. They now have two 
perfect stones, I hope they dont take a hammer to one of them or cut one!
Michael Farmer
 -- Original message --
From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Just out in many newspaper websites etc in Norway:
 A 676 g CO meteorite was found after a roof started to leak following the
 first rains after the July 14th fall.
 A company was hired to find the reson for the leakage.
 10 cm down in the roof  the cause of the leakage was found,
 another meteorite!
 This stone fits the stone found in Frode Johansens garden (752 g).
 It will today be donated to the Geological Museum at the University of Oslo
 by the company owning the storage building.
 This must be the first fall through a roof in Europe since Glanerbrug in
 April 1990. (Not since 1969 as stated in the norwegian article.)
 
 
 http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SISTENYTT/60809009
 
 
 Bjørn Sørheim,
 in Norway
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Most Of The Meteorite Fragments From Last Month's Fall In India Are Fake


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cm

GSI, PRL get only crumbs from meteorite shower
Raheel Dhattiwala
Times of India
August 9, 2006

AHMEDABAD: The Geological Survey of India (GSI) was shocked to find that
most of the meteorite fragments it collected from villagers through
state authorities, were fake.

Apparently, most of the meteorite fragments that fell in and around
Kutch last month are either up for sale or remain undisclosed as curious
by local residents and officials.

On August 1, the GSI team collected meteorite pieces from Kutch and
Saurashtra given to them by the respective authorities. However, after
examination of the pieces, only about 80 gm have been found to be
genuine meteorite.

This, experts say is insufficient for radiation studies. At least 500 gm
of meteorite sample is required. Because of the lack of sufficient
quantity of material, the Physical Research Laboratory (PRL) was sent
only 5 gm of sample on Tuesday.

For radiation studies, at least half-a-kilogram of the sample is
required. A 5-gm sample is useful only after preliminary studies are
done, a senior scientist at PRL said.

Confirming that a large part of the material was pseudo-meteorite, ZG
Gevariya, director, GSI Gandhinagar said that only a small part of
sample could, therefore, be sent for analysis to GSI, Jaipur and to PRL.

Localites collected the material and it is likely they may have
mistaken a large part of it to be meteorite, he said. Of the 2.5 kg
material collected in Kutch, 1.5 kg turned out to be fake.

However, experts at PRL and GSI suspect that genuine samples were most
likely cornered by local residents or government authorities. People
have pocketed most of the samples â localites, to earn money and
officials as a souvenir, said a senior geologist at GSI.

This, he said, is nothing new and happens every time there is a
meteorite fall. A member of the Kutch Astronomers' Club told TOI, One
piece was recently offered as sale to a geologist friend of mine in
Morbi for Rs 20,000.

During the Kendrapara meteorite fall in Orissa in 2003, meteorite pieces
weighing a few g were sold to tourists for $100 each. Dr SK
Bhattacharya, dean of PRL told TOI that during meteorite falls in remote
places, it becomes essential to send search teams to build confidence
among localites and coax them into handing over the pieces to scientists.

This happened during the Dhajala meteorite fall in 1976 also when
localites refused to part with samples because they wanted to sell or
worship them, he said. But Gevariya said that the department had not
come across any reports of people selling meteorite pieces.

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[meteorite-list] And somewhere in the world, Mike Farmer packs for India...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms

AHMEDABAD: The Geological Survey of India (GSI) was shocked to find that most of
the meteorite fragments it collected from villagers through state authorities,
were fake. 

Apparently, most of the meteorite fragments that fell in and around Kutch last
month are either up for sale or remain undisclosed as curious by local residents
and officials. 

On August 1, the GSI team collected meteorite pieces from Kutch and Saurashtra
given to them by the respective authorities. However, after examination of the
pieces, only about 80 gm have been found to be genuine meteorite. 

This, experts say is insufficient for radiation studies. At least 500 gm of
meteorite sample is required. Because of the lack of sufficient quantity of
material, the Physical Research Laboratory (PRL) was sent only 5 gm of sample on
Tuesday. 

For radiation studies, at least half-a-kilogram of the sample is required. A
5-gm sample is useful only after preliminary studies are done, a senior
scientist at PRL said. 

Confirming that a large part of the material was pseudo-meteorite, ZG
Gevariya, director, GSI Gandhinagar said that only a small part of sample could,
therefore, be sent for analysis to GSI, Jaipur and to PRL. 

Localites collected the material and it is likely they may have mistaken a
large part of it to be meteorite, he said. Of the 2.5 kg material collected in
Kutch, 1.5 kg turned out to be fake. 

However, experts at PRL and GSI suspect that genuine samples were most likely
cornered by local residents or government authorities. People have pocketed
most of the samples  localites, to earn money and officials as a souvenir,
said a senior geologist at GSI. 

This, he said, is nothing new and happens every time there is a meteorite
fall. A member of the Kutch Astronomers' Club told TOI, One piece was recently
offered as sale to a geologist friend of mine in Morbi for Rs 20,000. 

During the Kendrapara meteorite fall in Orissa in 2003, meteorite pieces
weighing a few g were sold to tourists for $100 each. Dr SK Bhattacharya, dean
of PRL told TOI that during meteorite falls in remote places, it becomes
essential to send search teams to build confidence among localites and coax
them into handing over the pieces to scientists. 

This happened during the Dhajala meteorite fall in 1976 also when localites
refused to part with samples because they wanted to sell or worship them, he
said. But Gevariya said that the department had not come across any reports of
people selling meteorite pieces. 
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