Re: [meteorite-list] The Missing Word
OK, Didn't say I believed it, just that it was reported. You'll note the software in question is derived from software that allows disabled people to communicate through computers using their nerve impulses. Maybe Neil's nerves said it, but his mouth didn't? Armstrong says he finds the study persuasive. Still touchy after all these years. In one of your references there is mention of the reporters listening to the raw feed and not being able to tell if the a was there or not. I have a recording of the raw feed released by Life magazine only a week after they made it back. I just went and listened to it about six times (first time in decades). It does not sound much like the two official sound samples linked in those articles, which have obviously been smoothed and filtered, scrubbed, as it were, with a strong but uniform background hum. The raw feed has much irregular noise, although the timing of the words seems to be the same. Not to go all conspiracy theory on you -- I don't think it matters. Afterall, if the important thing about the first landing on the Moon was nailing your lines, we'd have sent Orson Welles, right? Or at least Charlton Heston... Maybe nailing the landing was more important, particularly since their predetermined flight path was heading them straight into a 100-meter crater filled with rubble and surrounded by car-sized boulders, so that, against all expectation, Armstrong had to go manual and cruise around looking for the only 50-meter flat spot in the area... Which he found and parked in, within 20 seconds (or less) of fuel from the abort limit. Asked about that, he reportedly said, Twenty seconds is a long time. How about this? I recommend that when the first man sets foot on Mars, he carries an iPod with his well-rehearsed and pre-recorded foot-down sentence, so that all he has to do is touch the button that feeds the quote directly into his spacesuit's radio input: That's one small step for a man, another giant leap for mankind. Too late to get Charlton Heston to do it... Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Missing Word On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 00:17:27 -0500, you wrote: An AP wire story says an Australian computer programmer using specialized sound software has analyzed the tape of Neil Armstrong's famous phrase when first setting foot on the Moon and determined that Armstrong said (and NASA received) the missing a in That's one small step for [a] man... even though it's not audible to most listeners... I don't buy it. Listen for yourself-- there is no gap, no pause, and no unusual static between for and man. It goes smoothly from one word to the next. http://www.nasa.gov/62284main_onesmall2.wav http://www.snopes.com/quotes/onesmall.asp __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Missing Word
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 02:46:05 -0500, you wrote: Neil's nerves said it, but his mouth didn't? Armstrong says he finds the study persuasive. Still touchy after all these years. My take has always been that he screwed up the historic line live to the world, realizes to himself hey, I screwed up thie historic line live to the world!-- accounting for he pause between giant and leap, then finishes the line. I never blamed him for it, though. Being the first human being on a dead, airless, radiation-flooded rock a quarter million miles from home is bound to somewhat derail your train of thought. Not to go all conspiracy theory on you -- I don't think it matters. Afterall, if the important thing about You aren't a true conspiracy theorist if you don't think all the landings were filmed on a sound stage somewhere. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] mohamed ait ouzrou
Hi again list.Has anyone in the meteorite world ever heard of MOHAMED AIT OUZROU?He claims to be from mororroco selling nwa's.Please let me know. steve arnold,chicago,usa! Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com Illinois meteorites,since 1999! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] mohamed ait ouzrou
Careful Steve, You may get a box full of meteor-wrongs - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 11:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] mohamed ait ouzrou Hi again list.Has anyone in the meteorite world ever heard of MOHAMED AIT OUZROU?He claims to be from mororroco selling nwa's.Please let me know. steve arnold,chicago,usa! Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com Illinois meteorites,since 1999! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Te-1 / Tafassasset
Dear List-Members Should somebody be interested in it, from Te-1 (PAC-UNG, Brachinite-like) to acquire a crusted full slice of 474.79 grammes, he can contact me for further informations (picture, price, exchange etc.). Te-1 is desrcibed in the bulletin under Tafassasset. Regards from Germany, Stephan Kambach Extract from the Met.Bulletin 86 - Meteorit: Tafassasset /last part .A 3.61 kg stone, labeled Te-1, was found in 2000 March, probably on the same expedition noted above, and is reported by J. Otto (Frei) to have been found in the Tenere Desert at 20°45.8' N, 10°26.5' E. Classification (J. Otto and A. Ruh, Frei): a primitive achondrite; partly covered with black fusion crust; shows a recrystallization texture with abundant 120° triple junctions dominated by olivine (56 vol%, 100–700 µm, Fa28.7, 0.06 wt% CaO) and poikilitic orthopyroxene (23 vol%, up to 3 mm, Fs25.4Wo3.6) with exsolved clinopyroxene (Fs12.7Wo39.7); Fe-Ni metal is irregulary distributed (~10 vol%, up to 5 mm); poikilitic plagioclase occurs in interstices (6.5 vol%, An38.5Or3.7); troilite (~3.5 vol%, 0.01 wt% Ni); chromite (~1 vol%, Fe/(Fe + Mg) = 0.817, Cr/(Cr + Al) = 0.818). Oxygen isotopes (R. Clayton and T. Mayeda, UChi): d17O = –0.85‰, d18O = +1.70‰, different from other achondrites. Noble gases (L. Schultz, MPI): data compatible with those of brachinites; exposure age is ~45 Ma. Shock stage, S1/2; weathering grade, W0. Specimens: main mass with Christian Stehlin, Basel; type specimen, 30.2 g and thin section, Frei. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] major trade offer (AD)
Hello again list.I did not seem to have any nibbles of what I was looking for.So here is a new trade offer.11.9 gram slice of PORTALES VALLEY + 31.9 gram slice of FUKANG pallasite.I am still looking for nice gao and sikote-alin with a hole.Let me know what you have and then we will go from there. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com Illinois meteorites,since 1999! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Esquel has been sold
Thanks everyone-- Mike Miller Po Box 314 Gerber Ca 96035www.meteoritefinder.com530-385-1281 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] silly question? Off topic
Ok lately when I post to the list I never see my post...I do get a response so I know others can see it?? I also am sure this has been explained before, I just never payed attention. So could someone explain it again for the slow half of the class., Thanks -- Mike Miller Po Box 314 Gerber Ca 96035www.meteoritefinder.com530-385-1281 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Martian scenario
Dear list-specialists, please allow me to imagine the following scenario: At the annual meeting in Nocsut, Mars (southern hemisphere) of the MMCDA (Martian Meteorite Collectors Dealers Association) all little green enthusiasts surround - with nervously trembling tentacles - a table on which, protected by bullet-proof glass, the newest sensational and really breathtaking new find is shown: its not only a rare planetary meteorite, it is: an ultra-rare and not yet classified piece from planet Terra ! Not one of the admiring Martian meteorite-lunatics (!) would hesitate to sell the farm for a 0.0002 gr. part-slice if there would be farms on Mars. Well, so far the scenario. The question, with other words, is: Does there exist any information regarding terrestrial meteorites on other celestial bodies? Thanks in advance for your answers, and have a good next week, Matthias __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] But this is fakes or what?
hello on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/19-KG-HUGE-METEOR-NICKEL-IRON-METEORITE-RARE_W0QQitemZ230034392200QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item230034392200 its fakes or what? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Te-1 / Tafassasset
Dear List-Members Should somebody be interested in it, from Te-1 (PAC-UNG, Brachinite-like)to acquire a crusted full slice of 474.79 grammes, he can contact me forfurther informations (picture, price, exchange etc.). "Te-1" is desrcibed inthe bulletin under "Tafassasset".Regards from Germany, Stephan KambachExtract from the Met.Bulletin 86 - Meteorit: Tafassasset /last part.A 3.61 kg stone, labeled "Te-1", was found in 2000 March, probablyon the same expedition noted above, and is reported by J. Otto (Frei) tohave been found in the Tenere Desert at 20°45.8' N, 10°26.5' E.Classification (J. Otto and A. Ruh, Frei): a primitive achondrite; partlycovered with black fusion crust; shows a recrystallization texture withabundant 120° triple junctions dominated by olivine (56 vol%, 100–700 µm,Fa28.7, 0.06 wt% CaO) and poikilitic orthopyroxene (23 vol%, up to 3 mm,Fs25.4Wo3.6) with exsolved clinopyroxene (Fs12.7Wo39.7); Fe-Ni metal isirregulary distributed (~10 vol%, up to 5 mm); poikilitic plagioclase occursin interstices (6.5 vol%, An38.5Or3.7); troilite (~3.5 vol%, 0.01 wt% Ni);chromite (~1 vol%, Fe/(Fe + Mg) = 0.817, Cr/(Cr + Al) = 0.818). Oxygenisotopes (R. Clayton and T. Mayeda, UChi): δ17O = –0.85‰, δ18O = +1.70‰,different from other achondrites. Noble gases (L. Schultz, MPI): datacompatible with those of brachinites; exposure age is ~45 Ma. Shock stage,S1/2; weathering grade, W0. Specimens: main mass with Christian Stehlin,Basel; type specimen, 30.2 g and thin section, Frei. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mark Bostick Site
I have been in email contact with Mark today. He is busy but around. Graciously, Dave Freeman almitt wrote: Greetings, Mark's site is still down and I am wondering if anyone knows if everything is all right with Mark. Seems like he has dropped off the face of the planet. Don't know if he is still running his ebay items or not. Any information private or public would be appreciated. --AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Martian scenario
Hi, Matthias, List, No data, but speculation, of the computer simulation variety, shows that Earthites, or Terrestial meteorites should reach the other inner planets, just as pieces of them reach us: http://burro.astr.cwru.edu/stu/me/files/geopaper.pdf That's one paper. Google the author, Brett Gladman, for others on transfer of meteorites between planets... Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Matthias Bärmann To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martian scenario Dear list-specialists, please allow me to imagine the following scenario: At the annual meeting in Nocsut, Mars (southern hemisphere) of the MMCDA (Martian Meteorite Collectors Dealers Association) all little green enthusiasts surround - with nervously trembling tentacles - a table on which, protected by bullet-proof glass, the newest sensational and really breathtaking new find is shown: it's not only a rare planetary meteorite, it is: an ultra-rare and not yet classified piece from planet Terra ! Not one of the admiring Martian meteorite-lunatics (!) would hesitate to sell the farm for a 0.0002 gr. part-slice - if there would be farms on Mars. Well, so far the scenario. The question, with other words, is: Does there exist any information regarding terrestrial meteorites on other celestial bodies? Thanks in advance for your answers, and have a good next week, Matthias __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's New Mars Camera Gives Dramatic View of Planet (MRO)
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2006-117 Media contacts: Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Lori Stiles 520-626-4402 University of Arizona, Tucson NASA's New Mars Camera Gives Dramatic View of Planet September 29, 2006 Mars is ready for its close-up. The highest-resolution camera ever to orbit Mars is returning low-altitude images to Earth from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. Rocks and surface features as small as armchairs are revealed in the first image from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter since the spacecraft maneuvered into its final, low-altitude orbital path. The imaging of the red planet at this resolution heralds a new era in Mars exploration. The image of a small fraction of Mars' biggest canyon reached Earth on Friday, the beginning of a week of tests for the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment and other instruments on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. We are elated at the sharpness of the image, revealing such fine detail in the landscape, said Dr. Alfred McEwen of the University of Arizona, Tucson, who is the principal investigator for this camera. The target area includes the deepest part of Ius Chasma, one portion of the vast Valles Marineris canyon. Valles Marineris is the largest known canyon in the solar system, as long as the distance from California to New York. The image is available online at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/multimedia/mro-20060929a.html and http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/TRA/TRA_000823_1720/ . The camera returned test images after Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter went into orbit around Mars on March 10, 2006, but those were from altitudes more than eight times as high as the orbiter is flying now. Since March, the spacecraft has shrunk its orbit by dipping more than 400 times into the top of the Martian atmosphere to shave velocity. It is now flying in its final, nearly circular orbit at altitudes of 250 to 316 kilometers (155 to 196 miles). The orbit will remain this shape and size for the mission's two-year primary science phase, which begins in November. During its primary science phase, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter will return more data about the red planet than all previous missions combined, pouring data to Earth at about 10 times the rate of any earlier Mars spacecraft. Scientists will analyze the information to gain a better understanding of the distribution and history of Mars' water -- whether ice, vapor or liquid -- and of the processes that formed and modified the planet's surface. In addition to the high-resolution camera, the orbiter's science payload includes a mineral-identifying spectrometer, a ground-penetrating radar, a context camera for imaging wide swaths of the surface, a wide-angle color imager for monitoring the entire planet daily, and an instrument for mapping and monitoring water vapor and other constituents in the atmosphere. For most of October, Mars will be passing nearly behind the sun from Earth's perspective. Communication will be intermittent. Activities will be minimal for Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and other spacecraft at Mars during this time, and they will resume in early November. Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. The High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment is operated by the University of Arizona and the instrument was built by Ball Aerospace and Technology Corp., Boulder, Colo. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - September 29, 2006
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Solar Power Is on the Rise as Spirit 'Follows the Water' - sol 970-976, September 29, 2006: Solar power levels on Spirit are slowly beginning to rise again following a winter low of 275 watt-hours on Martian day, or sol, 933 (Aug. 18, 2006). One hundred watt-hours is the amount of electricity needed to light one 100-watt bulb for one hour. This week, the rover's power levels rose to about 296 watt-hours. Spirit spent much of the week analyzing atmospheric dust attracted to magnets on the spacecraft. The rover identifies iron minerals in the dust using the Moessbauer spectrometer. One of the two magnets, the filter magnet, is weaker than the capture magnet, allowing scientists to separate mineral grains that have the highest magnetic susceptibility, particularly minerals that contain iron. During the week, Spirit studied rock targets known as Juan Carlos, Gueslaga, and Tor using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Juan Carlos and Tor are vesicular rocks filled with tiny holes that formed during the cooling of a froth of magma and gas. Scientists hope to determine whether these rocks are similar to or different from nearby smooth-textured volcanic rocks known as basalts. Gueslaga, meanwhile, is an entirely different kind of rock known as an exotic, meaning it came from somewhere else and may have been emplaced during an impact event. Spirit continued to make scientific observations of the soil target known as Tyrone. Tyrone is a patch of bright material, white and yellow in color, that is possibly analogous to salty soils examined earlier in the mission known as Arad and Paso Robles. Spirit's dragging right front wheel churned up the bright material on the rover's 784th sol of exploration of Mars (March 18, 2006). Some science team members have speculated that some component in this material is hydrated. If moisture enters or leaves the material, the miniature thermal emission spectrometer would be able to detect it. Scientists are also monitoring the soil with the rover's panoramic camera for any color changes, because variability in water content could affect the color. These observations are ongoing to account for seasonal variability. The rover continues to operate successfully with the new flight software package. Sol-by-sol summaries: Sol 970 (Sept. 25, 2006): Spirit measured atmospheric opacity using the panoramic camera, surveyed the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, analyzed dust on the filter magnet with the Moessbauer spectrometer, acquired morning images of the spacecraft deck with the panoramic camera, and scanned the sky for clouds with the navigation camera. Sol 971: Spirit measured atmospheric opacity using the panoramic camera, surveyed the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, collected data from the rock target known as Juan Carlos, and surveyed the horizon using the panoramic camera. Sol 972: Spirit measured atmospheric opacity using the panoramic camera, surveyed the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, restarted integration of data from the filter magnets with the Moessbauer spectrometer, acquired panoramic camera images of the work volume accessible by the robotic arm, and measured morning sky brightness in the west with the panoramic camera. Sol 973: Spirit measured atmospheric opacity using the panoramic camera, surveyed the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, studied the rock targets Gueslaga and Tor using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, and used the panoramic camera to take images of rover tracks and measure morning sky brightness in the west. Sol 974: Plans called for Spirit to measure atmospheric opacity using the panoramic camera, survey the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, restart integration of data from the filter magnets with the Moessbauer spectrometer, survey the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, scan the sky for clouds, measure morning sky brightness, and take a morning measurement of dust on the panoramic camera mast assembly with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Sol 975: Plans called for Spirit to measure atmospheric opacity using the panoramic camera, survey the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, and acquire morning images of the rover's tracks with all 13 filters of the panoramic camera. Sol 976 (Oct. 1, 2006): Plans called for Spirit to measure atmospheric opacity using the panoramic camera, survey the sky and ground using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, continue analysis of dust on the filter magnets with the Moessbauer spectrometer, and complete a morning sky survey with the panoramic camera. Odometry: As of sol 973 (Sept. 28, 2006), Spirit's total odometry remained at 6,876.18 meters (4.27 miles).
[meteorite-list] Cassini Images: Helen's Close-Up
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/cassini/060930helene.html Helene's close-up CASSINI PHOTO RELEASE September 30, 2006 Credit: NASA/JPL/Space Science Institute Download larger image version here http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA08269.jpg This set of images exposes details on small and crumpled-looking Helene. Large portions of this Trojan moon of Dione appear to have been blasted away by impacts. Cassini passed within 50,000 kilometers (31,000 miles) of Helene (32 kilometers, or 20 miles across) when these images were acquired. The views were obtained over the course of an hour, and are presented here in reverse order (i.e., the leftmost image was taken latest). The images were taken in visible light with the Cassini spacecraft narrow-angle camera. As presented here, the views were acquired at distances ranging from 62,000 to 51,000 kilometers (39,000 to 32,000 miles) from Helene and at a Sun-Helene-spacecraft, or phase, angle of 111 to 120 degrees. Image scale is 375 to 300 meters (1,230 to 984 feet) per pixel, from left to right. The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. The Cassini orbiter and its two onboard cameras were designed, developed and assembled at JPL. The imaging operations center is based at the Space Science Institute in Boulder, Colo. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] 73P in 2022?
Hi Ed, Finally getting back to you on the subject of 73P's return at the end of May in 2022. Aside from the recent bolides, and the several hundred pound TNT equivalent hit at Troms, Norway, there appear to have been hits by large SW3 fragments at Rio Curaca, Brazil, 1930, 10 August, and Rupununi, British Guiana 1935, 11 December. I haven't researched the 1930 or 1935 possibilities you mention above, but the connection between the Troms, Norway event and 73P has some problems. That Norway bolide occurred at ~2:05am local time on June 7th (~12:05am GMT). Earth was not near any of the nodal crossing points in 2006: see figure 5 on page 6 of the following PDF link (which is page 643) and note that earth's closest approach to any meteoroids ejected from SW3 in prior years (going back to 1801) was on May 31 at a distance of at least 0.04 a.u. (~3.7 million miles): http://aquarid.physics.uwo.ca/%7Epbrown/taus.pdf By June 7th, the distance was more than double that. I will concede that at least the tau Herculid radiant was high in the southwest at the time of the bolide -- in the vicinity of delta Bootis (which was more than 50 degrees above azimuth 240 degrees). This location is in roughly the same quadrant of the sky from which the Troms bolide appears to have come. The 2022 nodal crossing looks much more promising for a minor meteor shower (though nothing spectacular according to P.A. Wiegert). Keep in mind that we're talking about comet dust here -- not meteoroids. Other than whatever large SW3 fragments following the 2006 breakup still remain in 2022, I would expect its dust cloud to be about as survivable as that of any other short-period comet: i.e. not very. (Aren't too many samples of Swift-Tuttle, Temple-Tuttle, Halley or 3200 Phaethon in our meteorite collections!) Cheers, Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list