[meteorite-list] NASA's Mars Rover and Orbiter Team Examines Victoria Crater
Oct. 6, 2006 Dwayne Brown/Erica Hupp Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726/1237 Guy Webster/Natalie Godwin Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-6278/0850 RELEASE: 06-330 NASA'S MARS ROVER AND ORBITER TEAM EXAMINES VICTORIA CRATER NASA's long-lived robotic rover Opportunity is beginning to explore layered rocks in cliffs ringing the massive Victoria crater on Mars. While Opportunity spent its first week at the crater, NASA's newest eye in the Martian sky photographed the rover and its surroundings from above. The level of detail in the photo from the high-resolution camera on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter will help guide the rover's exploration of Victoria. This is a tremendous example of how our Mars missions in orbit and on the surface are designed to reinforce each other and expand our ability to explore and discover, said Doug McCuistion, director of NASA's Mars Exploration Program in Washington. You can only achieve this compelling level of exploration capability with the sustained exploration approach we are conducting at Mars through integrated orbiters and landers. The combination of the ground-level and aerial view is much more powerful than either alone, said Steve Squyres of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. Squyres is principal investigator for Opportunity and its twin, Spirit. If you were a geologist driving up to the edge of a crater in your jeep, the first thing you would do would be to pick up the aerial photo you brought with you and use it to understand what you're seeing from ground level. That's exactly what we're doing here. Images from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor, orbiting the red planet since 1997, prompted the rover team to choose Victoria two years ago as the long-term destination for Opportunity. The images show the one-half-mile-wide crater has scalloped edges of alternating cliff-like high, jutting ledges and gentler alcoves. The new image by the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter adds significantly more detail. Exposed geological layers in the cliff-like portions of Victoria's inner wall appear to record a longer span of Mars' environmental history than the rover has studied in smaller craters. Victoria is five times larger than any crater Opportunity has visited during its Martian trek. High-resolution color images taken by Opportunity's panoramic camera since Sept. 28 reveal previously unseen patterns in the layers. There are distinct variations in the sedimentary layering as you look farther down in the stack, Squyres said. That tells us environmental conditions were not constant. Within two months after landing on Mars in early 2004, Opportunity found geological evidence for a long-ago environment that was wet. Scientists hope the layers in Victoria will provide new clues about whether that wet environment was persistent, fleeting or cyclical. The rovers have worked on Mars for more than 10 times their originally planned three-month missions. Opportunity shows a few signs of aging but is in good shape for undertaking exploration of Victoria crater, said John Callas, project manager for the rovers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. What we see so far just adds to the excitement. The team has worked heroically for nearly 21 months driving the rover here, and now we're all rewarded with views of a spectacular landscape of nearly 50-foot-thick exposures of layered rock, said Jim Bell of Cornell. Bell is lead scientist for the rovers' panoramic cameras. NASA plans to drive Opportunity from crater ridge to ridge, studying nearby cliffs across the intervening alcoves and looking for safe ways to drive the rover down. It's like going to the Grand Canyon and seeing what you can from several different overlooks before you walk down, Bell said. The orbiter images will help the team choose which way to send Opportunity around the rim, and where to stop for the best views. Conversely, the rover's ground-level observations of some of the same features will provide useful information for interpreting orbital images. The ground-truth we get from the rover images and measurements enables us to better interpret features we see elsewhere on Mars, including very rugged and dramatic terrains that we can't currently study on the ground, said Alfred McEwen of the University of Arizona, Tucson. He is principal investigator for the orbiter's High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment camera. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the rovers and orbiter for NASA's Science Mission Directorate. For images and information about the rovers, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/rovers For images and information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/mro -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 2-6, 2006
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES October 2-6, 2006 o Feature of the Week: Erosaion Exhumation http://themis.asu.edu/feature o Polar Texture (Released 02 October 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061002a o Tharsis Textures (Released 03 October 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061003a o Ice Layers (Released 04 October 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061004a o Multiple Textures (Released 05 October 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061005a o Gullies (Released 06 October 2006) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20061006a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] official fall since 2004
Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
The 5-billionaires group are a bunch con artists and idiots. Look at their latest Duck Chondrule offering, this is definitely one for the books: http://cgi.ebay.com/Duck-chondrule-155g-8-Slice-STONY-METEORITE-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ230036197978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I don't think they have ever sold a real meteorite. They know they are selling garbage and are trying to rip-off the public. Just look how hard they try to convince their audience that these are real meteorites. They run a magnet with a sticky substance on it all over a supposed Nantan in one auction. If this were a real iron meteorite, the magnet would jump out of there hands. In another auction, they zoom in on light colored objects claiming they are chondrules. This reminds me of the Shirokovsky pallasite webpage images complete with divers and a poor story where every stone weighed exactly 50 kilograms, the size of a crucible. I remember you could not make out any the faces of the hunters on this web presence, I wonder why? This new group is brash enough to think that meteorite collectors are stupid enough to jump all over a $28,000.00 Earth rock. Billionaires, give me a break, they should call themselves penny-aires because that is what a lot of their items are selling for except for one unsuspecting person who paid several hundred for a fake meteorite. I would love to run into this group in Tucson. I would buy them a round of Denver Death Cookies and extract a confession from them. By the way, I owe some Margaritas on a lost wager that I will make good on at the next show. Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] official fall since 2004
Where have you been Stefan? There have been at least 2 recovered falls ni India since Moss, one in July, and an Iron fall in August. I am not sure of others though. Mike --- Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Dear List, Adam wrote: The 5-billionaires group... latest Duck Chondrule offering, this is definitely one for the books... I think they should call their group the 5-Quacks Group!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule The 5-billionaires group are a bunch con artists and idiots. Look at their latest Duck Chondrule offering, this is definitely one for the books: http://cgi.ebay.com/Duck-chondrule-155g-8-Slice-STONY-METEORITE-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ230036197978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I don't think they have ever sold a real meteorite. They know they are selling garbage and are trying to rip-off the public. Just look how hard they try to convince their audience that these are real meteorites. They run a magnet with a sticky substance on it all over a supposed Nantan in one auction. If this were a real iron meteorite, the magnet would jump out of there hands. In another auction, they zoom in on light colored objects claiming they are chondrules. This reminds me of the Shirokovsky pallasite webpage images complete with divers and a poor story where every stone weighed exactly 50 kilograms, the size of a crucible. I remember you could not make out any the faces of the hunters on this web presence, I wonder why? This new group is brash enough to think that meteorite collectors are stupid enough to jump all over a $28,000.00 Earth rock. Billionaires, give me a break, they should call themselves penny-aires because that is what a lot of their items are selling for except for one unsuspecting person who paid several hundred for a fake meteorite. I would love to run into this group in Tucson. I would buy them a round of Denver Death Cookies and extract a confession from them. By the way, I owe some Margaritas on a lost wager that I will make good on at the next show. Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] HiRISE Camera on NASA Orbiter Gets Spectacular View of Rover at Victoria Crater
HiRISE CAMERA ON NASA ORBITER GETS SPECTACULAR VIEW OF ROVER AT VICTORIA CRATER (From Lori Stiles, University Communications, 520-626-4402) - Friday, October 06, 2006 -- Contact Information Alfred S. McEwen 520-621-4573 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Images online at http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/TRA/TRA_000873_1780/ http://www.nasa.gov/mro With stunningly powerful vision, the HiRISE camera on NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter has taken a remarkable picture that shows the exploration rover Opportunity poised on the rim of Victoria crater on Mars. The High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera detailed the entire 800-meter (roughly half-mile) Victoria crater and the rover -- down to its rover tracks and shadows -- in a single high-resolution image taken Wednesday (Oct. 3). Alfred S. McEwen of the University of Arizona Lunar and Planetary Laboratory released portions of the image that show views of the rover and crater at a NASA press conference in Washington, D.C., today. McEwen is principal investigator for HiRISE, which is operated from UA's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory in Tucson. We're poised to have a fantastic mission, and we're not even at prime science mission yet, McEwen said at the NASA press briefing this morning. This was our very first attempt to image 'off-nadir' (at an angle as opposed to straight down), and it worked fabulously well, McEwen added. It's been an exciting week. The HiRISE images for Victoria crater are available online at http://hiroc.lpl.arizona.edu/images/TRA/TRA_000873_1780/ Opportunity drove nine kilometers (more than five miles) to Victoria crater, an impact crater at Meridiani Planum, near Mars' equator. The HiRISE camera took its picture five days later, at 3:30 p.m. local Mars time, as the sun was about 30 degrees above the horizon, illuminating the scene from the west. The NASA orbiter was flying 297 kilometers (185.6 miles) above the planet's surface. The HiRise camera is able to resolve objects that are 89 centimeters (35 inches) across at that altitude. The high resolution of the HiRISE image enabled Opportunity's mission planners on Wednesday (Oct.4) to identify specific rover-scale targets of interest as they planned that day's drive. It is a first in the exploration of Mars. Opportunity has since driven north to the tip of the Cape Verde promontory, where the rover will take images of the crater interior. HiRISE's stunning overview of Victoria crater shows a distinctive scalloped shape to its rim. This is formed by eroding crater wall material moving downhill. Layered sedimentary rocks are exposed along the inner wall of the crater, and boulders that have fallen from the crater wall are visible on the crater floor. A striking field of sand dunes covers much of the crater floor. The ground-truth we get from the rover images and measurements enables us to better interpret features we see elsewhere on Mars, including very rugged and dramatic terrains that we can't currently study on the ground, McEwen said. But stay tuned, McEwen said at the press conference. If you think this HiRISE image is spectacular, just wait. Images from the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment and additional information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter are available online at: http://www.nasa.gov/mro and http://HiRISE.lpl.arizona.edu The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. Lockheed Martin Space Systems is the prime contractor for the project and built the spacecraft. The HiRISE camera was built by Ball Aerospace Corporation and is operated by The University of Arizona. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Atlantis Damaged By Micrometeoroid/Space Debris
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts116/061006nighttime/ Shuttles to resume nighttime launches; Atlantis damaged BY WILLIAM HARWOOD STORY WRITTEN FOR CBS NEWS SPACE PLACE USED WITH PERMISSION October 6, 2006 [snip] At the Kennedy Space Center, meanwhile, engineers are assessing options for fixing a radiator panel mounted on the inside of the shuttle Atlantis' right-side payload bay door. The panel apparently was damaged when a piece of space debris or a micrometeoroid slammed into the radiator, presumably during the shuttle's flight last month, blasting .108-inch-wide hole in the upper surface and destroying the aluminum honeycomb material below before exiting the other side. The impact did not threaten the crew and the damage can be repaired. But it illustrates the danger posed by micrometeoroid/orbital debris (MMOD) and the reason why NASA considers such strikes a high risk. The odds of a catastrophic impact-related entry failure range between 1-in-210 to 1-in-350, depending on whether the astronauts inspect the ship in orbit prior to re-entry. At orbital velocities, even tiny pieces of debris pose a serious threat. An aluminum sphere just .4 inches across moving at 10 kilometers per second, or 22,370 mph, carries the same impact energy as a bowling ball moving at 300 mph. A preliminary engineering analysis shows the impact in question was one of the most significant instances of MMOD damage in shuttle history, second only to a cargo bay door impact during shuttle mission STS-72 in 1996. The shuttle's 60-foot-long payload bay doors each feature four radiator panels that are exposed to space once the doors are opened in orbit. The forward two radiator panels measure about one inch thick, feature Freon coolant tubes positioned about 1.9 inches apart and can pivot to radiate from both sides. The aft panels are fixed and only radiate from one side. They measure a half inch thick and feature coolant tubes separated by about 5 inches. The interior of the panels is made up of an aluminum honeycomb material. The impact on Atlantis's right-side, or starboard, radiator was found roughly midway between two coolant lines on panel No. 4. The object blasted a .108-inch-wide hole and presumably broke apart on impact. The resulting spray of debris created a cone-shaped damage cavity immediately below the face plate, destroying the honeycomb interior to the full half-inch depth of the panel. The lower face sheet was pushed out in two places. A .26-inch crack and a .03-inch-wide exit hole were found. As part of NASA's post-Columbia safety protocols, the shuttle and space station fly in an orientation that protects the shuttle's critical wing leading edge panels from direct, worst-case impacts in the line of flight. In addition, the astronauts now carry out detailed inspections of the shuttle's heat shield after reaching orbit and again before re-entry to make sure no MMOD impacts occurred during the course of the mission. Areas of the shuttle that are not critical for re-entry are not inspected and the damage to Atlantis's radiator panel No. 4 was not discovered until post-flight servicing at the Kennedy Space Center. A senior NASA manager said the impact damage was unlikely to prompt a change in the shuttle's orbital orientation. He said program managers understand the radiator panels and cockpit windows face a higher risk of impact damage because of the shuttle's orientation. But he said the risks associated with wing leading edge impacts are more severe. The shuttle has two Freon coolant loops and while the loss of one would force a crew to return to Earth at the next available U.S. landing site, computer software is in place to immediately isolate a leak even if the event occurred when the crew was asleep or otherwise occupied. Assuming a leak was quickly isolated, the astronauts could implement contingency procedures and press ahead with a near-normal mission despite the damage to one radiator panel. As for an impact on the shuttle's cockpit windows, engineers do not yet know if the debris in question would have penetrated the thick multi-pane glass. The three panes making up the six forward cockpit windows have a combined thickness of 2.55 inches. The three panes making up each overhead window have a combined thickness of 1.58 inches. Some 11,000 objects 3.9 inches in diameter or greater are currently tracked by Air Force radars and optical systems. About 100,000 objects are believed to be present that are between .39 inches across and 3.9 inches in diameter. Most of those are not tracked and pose a threat to spacecraft in low-Earth orbit and to communications and weather satellites in higher orbits. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Adam and All, I have had many email discussions with with these clowns. They know exactly what they are doing. I prefer this photo: http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/images/5_billionaires.jpg Best, Ken Newton #9632 Adam Hupe wrote: The 5-billionaires group are a bunch con artists and idiots. Look at their latest Duck Chondrule offering, this is definitely one for the books: http://cgi.ebay.com/Duck-chondrule-155g-8-Slice-STONY-METEORITE-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ230036197978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I don't think they have ever sold a real meteorite. They know they are selling garbage and are trying to rip-off the public. Just look how hard they try to convince their audience that these are real meteorites. They run a magnet with a sticky substance on it all over a supposed Nantan in one auction. If this were a real iron meteorite, the magnet would jump out of there hands. In another auction, they zoom in on light colored objects claiming they are chondrules. This reminds me of the Shirokovsky pallasite webpage images complete with divers and a poor story where every stone weighed exactly 50 kilograms, the size of a crucible. I remember you could not make out any the faces of the hunters on this web presence, I wonder why? This new group is brash enough to think that meteorite collectors are stupid enough to jump all over a $28,000.00 Earth rock. Billionaires, give me a break, they should call themselves penny-aires because that is what a lot of their items are selling for except for one unsuspecting person who paid several hundred for a fake meteorite. I would love to run into this group in Tucson. I would buy them a round of Denver Death Cookies and extract a confession from them. By the way, I owe some Margaritas on a lost wager that I will make good on at the next show. Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Totally awlsome mars crater picture
There's a most fantastic picture of the crater near the Opportunity rover taken by the Mars Orbiter in this BBC story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5413754.stm _ Add fun gadgets and colorful themes to express yourself on Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.get.live.com/spaces/features __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Great image, Ken! Maybe if everybody asked them a question about their Duck Chondrule offering, they would get the point. Some questions might be: Have you submitted this outstanding and Earth-shattering find for study? What is your take on Duck Chondrule formation? Do your Nantans attract flies? Why are you not in jail? Do coprolites just happen? Why is dirt dirty? I bet they would respond, I no understand, speak no English and Why you no cooperate? I have not been receiving emails from Meteorite Central lately so sorry if these idiots have already been discussed. Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Adam and List, Thanks Adam! Yes, Adam I agree, that is why I wrote about the Mekong iron and now they are offering fake Nantans. They have to stoop pretty low to sell fake Nantan as well?!! It will get much worse in the future from what I see in the local markets in SE Asia. Soon NWAs will be found in China and Thailand. We already have them being newly discovered in Isreal. Buyers and sellers beware of your sources or you may end up ruining your own reputations in the future with faked locations. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo I have no idea what their duck chondrule ismost likely an iron rich sedimentary rock or a highly weathered volcanic? Nice vugs with secondary carbonates CAIs-NOT! I suppose they will soon be offering their own versions of Lunars and Martians.IF they want to be billionares. drs --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 5-billionaires group are a bunch con artists and idiots. Look at their latest Duck Chondrule offering, this is definitely one for the books: http://cgi.ebay.com/Duck-chondrule-155g-8-Slice-STONY-METEORITE-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ230036197978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I don't think they have ever sold a real meteorite. They know they are selling garbage and are trying to rip-off the public. Just look how hard they try to convince their audience that these are real meteorites. They run a magnet with a sticky substance on it all over a supposed Nantan in one auction. If this were a real iron meteorite, the magnet would jump out of there hands. In another auction, they zoom in on light colored objects claiming they are chondrules. This reminds me of the Shirokovsky pallasite webpage images complete with divers and a poor story where every stone weighed exactly 50 kilograms, the size of a crucible. I remember you could not make out any the faces of the hunters on this web presence, I wonder why? This new group is brash enough to think that meteorite collectors are stupid enough to jump all over a $28,000.00 Earth rock. Billionaires, give me a break, they should call themselves penny-aires because that is what a lot of their items are selling for except for one unsuspecting person who paid several hundred for a fake meteorite. I would love to run into this group in Tucson. I would buy them a round of Denver Death Cookies and extract a confession from them. By the way, I owe some Margaritas on a lost wager that I will make good on at the next show. Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
Ken and List, Great photo Ken! This is just the tip of the iceberg. The dangerous thing I see happening is foreign buyers buying the stuff in Thailand and elsewhere and taking it back to their countries to sell. Yes, I have seen several foreign buyers buying it in Thailand. Best, Dirk...Tokyo --- ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam and All, I have had many email discussions with with these clowns. They know exactly what they are doing. I prefer this photo: http://home.earthlink.net/~wrongs/images/5_billionaires.jpg Best, Ken Newton #9632 Adam Hupe wrote: The 5-billionaires group are a bunch con artists and idiots. Look at their latest Duck Chondrule offering, this is definitely one for the books: http://cgi.ebay.com/Duck-chondrule-155g-8-Slice-STONY-METEORITE-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ230036197978QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I don't think they have ever sold a real meteorite. They know they are selling garbage and are trying to rip-off the public. Just look how hard they try to convince their audience that these are real meteorites. They run a magnet with a sticky substance on it all over a supposed Nantan in one auction. If this were a real iron meteorite, the magnet would jump out of there hands. In another auction, they zoom in on light colored objects claiming they are chondrules. This reminds me of the Shirokovsky pallasite webpage images complete with divers and a poor story where every stone weighed exactly 50 kilograms, the size of a crucible. I remember you could not make out any the faces of the hunters on this web presence, I wonder why? This new group is brash enough to think that meteorite collectors are stupid enough to jump all over a $28,000.00 Earth rock. Billionaires, give me a break, they should call themselves penny-aires because that is what a lot of their items are selling for except for one unsuspecting person who paid several hundred for a fake meteorite. I would love to run into this group in Tucson. I would buy them a round of Denver Death Cookies and extract a confession from them. By the way, I owe some Margaritas on a lost wager that I will make good on at the next show. Take Care, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN
List, Just ran out last night with my camera when I read about the comet on another list. Had to go to another place because of the bad horizon. Here's a page I made. Could be also helpful in locating it. Congratulations to Rob Matson! http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/komet/C2006_M4_SWAN/Comet%20SWAN%20M4.html Regards, Bjørn Sørheim More fresh Moss pieces CO3.5/CO3.6 for sale: http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/meteor/060714/moss.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Egypt's Craters Pose Geological Riddle
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2006/10/06/crater_pla.html?category=travelguid=20061006103030 Egypt's Craters Pose Geological Riddle Larry O'Hanlon Discovery News October 6, 2006 New research on a few of the more than 1,300 enigmatic craters found deep in Egypt's western desert has scientists scratching their heads. The craters look like they were created by a spectacular ancient rain of meteors, or perhaps from a vast eruption of steam and gas from inside the Earth. Or maybe from something else entirely. It is a strange and new thing, said Philippe Paillou of the Observatoire Aquitain des Sciences de l'Univers in Floirac, France. Paillou is the lead author of a report on an expedition to the remote landscape of Egypt's Gilf Kebir region in the October issue of the Journal of African Earth Sciences. Right now I cannot tell you I believe this is hydrothermal (explosive steam) or (meteor) impact, he said. Hydrothermal vents can look like craters at the surface, Paillou explained, because eons of wind and rain nibble away at the surface, exposing more and more of the ice-cream-cone-shaped vent over time. To find out if that was the case, Paillou and colleagues from France, Germany, South Africa, Egypt and the United States visited more than 60 of the craters in 2004. Digging was impossible because of the terrain and remote location, so the researchers used ground-penetrating radar to peer beneath the craters. The problem is that ground-penetrating radar doesn't show this kind of tube under the surface, Paillou told Discovery News. On the other hand, the craters, which look like classic volcanic cinder cones, show no signs of being volcanic. When you go there you don't find volcanic rock or ash, Paillou said. So it cannot be a classical volcanic feature. That's why we didn't propose any volcanic hypotheses. So are they the remains of a meteor that fragmented and peppered the region with impacts? To test that idea, Paillou and his team looked at the minerals in the rocks from some of the craters in search of telltale shocked minerals. They found signs that the rocks has been shocked, alright, but not at high enough pressures to make a good case for a meteor impact. What's worse, the shocked minerals don't jive with the hydrothermal hypothesis either, he said. They're clearly not impact craters, said geologist and impact crater researcher Jay Melosh of the University of Arizona. He recently visited with some of Paillou's colleagues and learned that the layers of earth around the rims of the craters are tilted inward - the opposite of what would be expected from an impact crater, he said. At the moment, said Melosh, the most likely explanation is some sort of deeper volcanic activity that perhaps caused widespread hydrothermal activity in the area. But the specifics are far from clear. There's nothing in our current geological literature that describes them, said Melosh. It would be most valuable to try to figure it out. Besides explaining the Gilf Kebir region, the information might prove useful elsewhere on Earth and beyond. Mars, for instance, was once rich in both water and volcanism, and today the planet has plenty of cratered-looking land, Melosh explained. Perhaps some of those famous pockmarks are not impact craters either. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] official fall since 2004
Hi Stefan Thanks to Jeff Grossman's DB it is easy to look up all the recent falls. You are correct that there are no official falls from 2005. My guess based on past history there will be 3-4 that will be added in the future. Here is a list of all the official and unofficial meteorites from 2004-present. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html My guess is that I missed some. If you know of any let me know and I will add them. Curiously 4 of the 6 unofficial meteorites are from India. Even more strange both Kanvarpura and Bhuka are from the state of Rajasthan. Also both Kaprada, Gujarat are from the state of Gujarat which borders Rajasthan! Gujarat is about the size of South Dakota slightly smaller than Belarus though a much denser population (50.6 million vs 0.776 million 10.3 million). Rajasthan is slightly larger than New Mexico and Finland with a much larger population (56.5 million vs 1.93 million 5.1 million). Interestingly only two falls have been recorded in the US and Europe in that same time period. Both with much larger areas and populations. Guess I better move to India if I want to recover a fresh fall. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] official fall since 2004
Thanks Mike, for this very interesting and detailed response. I will add the missing falls as unofficial to my falls-list. btw. is San Pedro Jacuaro (LL6) from 01.12.1968 a fall according to the MB90. It is NOT listet as one in the MB Database though. Stefan Hi Stefan Thanks to Jeff Grossman's DB it is easy to look up all the recent falls. You are correct that there are no official falls from 2005. My guess based on past history there will be 3-4 that will be added in the future. Here is a list of all the official and unofficial meteorites from 2004-present. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html My guess is that I missed some. If you know of any let me know and I will add them. Curiously 4 of the 6 unofficial meteorites are from India. Even more strange both Kanvarpura and Bhuka are from the state of Rajasthan. Also both Kaprada, Gujarat are from the state of Gujarat which borders Rajasthan! Gujarat is about the size of South Dakota slightly smaller than Belarus though a much denser population (50.6 million vs 0.776 million 10.3 million). Rajasthan is slightly larger than New Mexico and Finland with a much larger population (56.5 million vs 1.93 million 5.1 million). Interestingly only two falls have been recorded in the US and Europe in that same time period. Both with much larger areas and populations. Guess I better move to India if I want to recover a fresh fall. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] big meteorite want list-Allende, Esquel, Millbillillie
I am looking for: ~800g Allende ind. ~450g Esquel slice ~550g Millbillillie ind. Dealer prices only please. Thanks. Matt __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN
Great job Bjorn! The first two pictures (the most important ones, I think) seem to be broken links and aren't showing for me. It's easy to be envious of your northern location after hauling my camera out 7 days straight including last night and this morning with nothing but horizon haze and clouds. The way I figure it the further southern latitudes (N33 - N25) will have the best opportunity very close to the evening of October 16, when the comet will be a good brightness fraction of what it is now, not too diffuse, but after which the Comet will start dimming more rapidly (0.1 mag loss daily throughout November). Here's a nice picture of Rob's Comet you can feast your eyes on taken by a dedicated astronomer near Buffalo, NY...he'll also sells prints. Rob's Comet is very green and this can be noted in the photo. It is a very pretty shot considering Tom Bakowski took it on October 2 and it was so low in the sky (7 degrees), and moisture was evaporating off nearby Lake Erie: http://www.tomseyeonthesky.com/images/Recent/cometSwan.JPG Best wishes, Doug - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN List, Just ran out last night with my camera when I read about the comet on another list. Had to go to another place because of the bad horizon. Here's a page I made. Could be also helpful in locating it. Congratulations to Rob Matson! http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/komet/C2006_M4_SWAN/Comet%20SWAN%20M4. html Regards, Bjørn Sørheim More fresh Moss pieces CO3.5/CO3.6 for sale: http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/meteor/060714/moss.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: official fall since 2004
You forgot Maigatari-Danduma in 2004, August 1 Cheers, Christiam I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: Stefan Brandes; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] official fall since 2004 Hi Stefan Thanks to Jeff Grossman's DB it is easy to look up all the recent falls. You are correct that there are no official falls from 2005. My guess based on past history there will be 3-4 that will be added in the future. Here is a list of all the official and unofficial meteorites from 2004-present. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html My guess is that I missed some. If you know of any let me know and I will add them. Curiously 4 of the 6 unofficial meteorites are from India. Even more strange both Kanvarpura and Bhuka are from the state of Rajasthan. Also both Kaprada, Gujarat are from the state of Gujarat which borders Rajasthan! Gujarat is about the size of South Dakota slightly smaller than Belarus though a much denser population (50.6 million vs 0.776 million 10.3 million). Rajasthan is slightly larger than New Mexico and Finland with a much larger population (56.5 million vs 1.93 million 5.1 million). Interestingly only two falls have been recorded in the US and Europe in that same time period. Both with much larger areas and populations. Guess I better move to India if I want to recover a fresh fall. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: official fall since 2004
Hi Christian -- Original message -- From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] You forgot Maigatari-Danduma in 2004, August 1 Right you are. Here is the corrected list plus another reference for Kanvarpurathanks Manoj for the article. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Aug 1 Maigatari-Danduma Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/1959385.cms Cheers, Christiam I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: Stefan Brandes; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] official fall since 2004 Hi Stefan Thanks to Jeff Grossman's DB it is easy to look up all the recent falls. You are correct that there are no official falls from 2005. My guess based on past history there will be 3-4 that will be added in the future. Here is a list of all the official and unofficial meteorites from 2004-present. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html My guess is that I missed some. If you know of any let me know and I will add them. Curiously 4 of the 6 unofficial meteorites are from India. Even more strange both Kanvarpura and Bhuka are from the state of Rajasthan. Also both Kaprada, Gujarat are from the state of Gujarat which borders Rajasthan! Gujarat is about the size of South Dakota slightly smaller than Belarus though a much denser population (50.6 million vs 0.776 million 10.3 million). Rajasthan is slightly larger than New Mexico and Finland with a much larger population (56.5 million vs 1.93 million 5.1 million). Interestingly only two falls have been recorded in the US and Europe in that same time period. Both with much larger areas and populations. Guess I better move to India if I want to recover a fresh fall. Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: Stefan Brandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, is it correct that after Benguerir 22.11.2004 there was no official Fall since (and after) Moss? No fall in 2005 and only one in 2006 yet? Can it be? curiously Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN
I think you should just try loading it again, they are ok for me Bjørn, I think you are loading your images off your own hard disk or network. The links you've coded into your page according to my browser for the first two which don't work are: file:///I:/INTERNET/HM2/DOCUMENT/HEIME/ASTRO/KOMET/SWAN%20C2006%20M4/eiksund sdal1b.jpg file:///I:/INTERNET/HM2/DOCUMENT/HEIME/ASTRO/KOMET/SWAN%20C2006%20M4/swanclo seup1.jpg You can fix that by recoding them to this (which I just did and was able to see apparently the images you loaded): http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/komet/C2006_M4_SWAN/swancloseup2.jpg http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/komet/C2006_M4_SWAN/jet_eiksundsdal1.j pg The second two are ok, Best, Doug - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: SV: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN Hello MexicoDoug, I think you should just try loading it again, they are ok for me. On the other hand this is only a 320mm lens of a traditional SLR-camera, so don't expect tooo much. But for people only with binoculars this will show what they can see at the moment. Tonight it is raining here, btw. Bjørn Sørheim From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2006-10-06 23:03:26 CEST To: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN Great job Bjorn! The first two pictures (the most important ones, I think) seem to be broken links and aren't showing for me. It's easy to be envious of your northern location after hauling my camera out 7 days straight including last night and this morning with nothing but horizon haze and clouds. The way I figure it the further southern latitudes (N33 - N25) will have the best opportunity very close to the evening of October 16, when the comet will be a good brightness fraction of what it is now, not too diffuse, but after which the Comet will start dimming more rapidly (0.1 mag loss daily throughout November). Here's a nice picture of Rob's Comet you can feast your eyes on taken by a dedicated astronomer near Buffalo, NY...he'll also sells prints. Rob's Comet is very green and this can be noted in the photo. It is a very pretty shot considering Tom Bakowski took it on October 2 and it was so low in the sky (7 degrees), and moisture was evaporating off nearby Lake Erie: http://www.tomseyeonthesky.com/images/Recent/cometSwan.JPG Best wishes, Doug - Original Message - From: Bjorn Sorheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] The geologist on the moon and Comet SWAN List, Just ran out last night with my camera when I read about the comet on another list. Had to go to another place because of the bad horizon. Here's a page I made. Could be also helpful in locating it. Congratulations to Rob Matson! http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/komet/C2006_M4_SWAN/Comet%20SWAN%20M4. html Regards, Bjørn Sørheim More fresh Moss pieces CO3.5/CO3.6 for sale: http://home.online.no/~bsoerhei/astro/meteor/060714/moss.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: official fall since 2004
Hi All I'm still getting more info on other falls. Here is another two falls from 2005 2006. Thanks Dirk. Which proves my point that there will most certainly be several more added to this list in the years to come. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Aug 1 Maigatari-Danduma Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 1/24 Cambodia 4.5 kg Stone? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6873158/ http://www.spursreport.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-26399.html 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 1/31 Bangladesh 2.5 kg stone http://www.bangastrosociety.org/news_meteroite_2006.html 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/1959385.cms Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Christian -- Original message -- From: Christian Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] You forgot Maigatari-Danduma in 2004, August 1 Right you are. Here is the corrected list plus another reference for Kanvarpurathanks Manoj for the article. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Aug 1 Maigatari-Danduma Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/1959385.cms Cheers, Christiam I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM To: Stefan Brandes; Meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] official fall since 2004 Hi Stefan Thanks to Jeff Grossman's DB it is easy to look up all the recent falls. You are correct that there are no official falls from 2005. My guess based on past history there will be 3-4 that will be added in the future. Here is a list of all the official and unofficial meteorites from 2004-present. Official list from 2004 Jan 4 Villabeto de la Pena Nov 8 Orlando Nov 22 Benguerir Unofficial list from 2004 all possible falls; June 12 Auckland New Zealand 1.3 kg stone http://tvnz.co.nz/view/news_national_story_skin/430438%3Fformat=html Oct 4 Berthoud Colorado 960 g stone http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/metadventures/berthoud.html Oct 29 Kaprada India 1 kg stone http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March21.html Official list from 2005 NONE Unofficial list from 2005 6/25 Bhuka India 2.5 kg Iron http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/sep102005/741.pdf Official list from 2006 7/14 Moss Unofficial list from 2006 7/31 Gujarat India approx 500 grams Stone http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1879050.cms http://www.gsi.gov.in/metgujfl.pdf 8/29 Kanvarpura India 6.8 kg iron http://www.hindu.com/2006/09/06/stories/2006090600281500.htm http://indianexpress.com/story/12032.html My guess is that I
[meteorite-list] Deadline for Nininger Award Application is November 15th!
The Center for Meteorite Studies at Arizona State University is pleased to announce the 2006 application opportunity for the Nininger Award for undergraduate and graduate students pursuing research in meteoritical sciences. The Nininger Award recognizes outstanding student achievement in the meteoritical sciences as embodied by an original research paper. Papers must cover original research conducted by the student and must have been written, submitted or published between November 16, 2005 and November 15, 2006. The 2006 Nininger Award application deadline is November 15, 2006. Applicants must be the first, but not sole, author of the paper and must be studying at an educational institution in the United States. The Nininger Award recipient receives $2500 and an engraved plaque commemorating the honor. Further information about the Nininger Award and paper submission instructions are located on the Center for Meteorite Studies website: http://meteorites.asu.edu/nininger Questions regarding the application or application process may be sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
--- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken and List, The dangerous thing I see happening is foreign buyers buying the stuff in Thailand and elsewhere and taking it back to their countries to sell. Yes, I have seen several foreign buyers buying it in Thailand. Best, Dirk...Tokyo This started out with me thinking, Ha, this is like seeing the virgin Mary in a slice of toast, isn't the human mind wonderful? and ended up with me thinking, Cripes. I need to be more cynical Many say I'm too cynical already but I'm in this less than a year and am only just recognising real from junk. Poor quality photos don't help. (OK, I know a chondrite should have a greater chondrule density than this with hindsight but it's been a long, hard week) It really is a concern. I'm trying to get kids excited by meteorites. Idiots like this are making it difficult. The lesson is, buy only from whom you can trust, I suppose. I don't like monopolies or cartels which are possible if the diabolical situation of uncrupulous fakers continues. Fortunately, with starting prices of 99c on ebay, it still seems like a free market economy. I don't mind paying over the odds for something I really want from someone I trust. Especially when it seems that over the odds is simply more than anyone else was willing to pay in a free auction. I've bought some lunar stuff at more than I wanted to pay on Buy It Now because I REALLY wanted to compare it to Apollo stuff (you know who you are) and this is a pride of my collection because of my perception of the material, not what I paid for it or anything else. I also bought a lunar sample which I would have gladly paid twice as much for (I'd i'd had the money) but nobody else seemed to want from someone (and you know who you are, too. Probably felt I robbed you. Maybe every other collector was broke that week). Its a bless the free market economy time again. My biggest concern (I'm sure I've said this before) is that one of my students comes to me with a lump of pumice or similar and says I bought this meteorite off ebay. If I have to tell them its not a meteorite because the 5 billionaires or similar have conned them. How am I going to feel, having got them interested? Nail them up, I say! Nail some sense into them! I know the sellers names of the guys I trust but I don't want to be advertising them but what else could I do? (OK, I tell them anyone with an IMCA no. is OK) In difficulty Rob McC __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
In a message dated 10/6/2006 5:42:15 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My biggest concern (I'm sure I've said this before) is that one of my students comes to me with a lump of pumice or similar and says I bought this meteorite off ebay. If I have to tell them its not a meteorite because the 5 billionaires or similar have conned them. How am I going to feel, having got them interested? Have you ever looked at Ken Newton's page on Ebay? _http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=magellon_ (http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=magellon) It is very informative, and very entertaining. And he keeps it up to date, so you should look at it often. I happen to know that he is preparing to add to it. And you will find more information about scams being brought to our attention on the IMCA website, _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) , click on Collecting. -- Nail them up, I say! Nail some sense into them! I know the sellers names of the guys I trust but I don't want to be advertising them but what else could I do? (OK, I tell them anyone with an IMCA no. is OK) In difficulty Rob McC Thank you, we do try our best to keep it that way! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Duck Chondrule
In a message dated 10/6/2006 6:44:30 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: attention on the IMCA website, _www.IMCA.cc_ (http://www.IMCA.cc) , click on Collecting. My old website... sniff, sniff:-( -Walter Branch You are right Walter. I should have mentioned that you graciously donated your website to the IMCA. But don't worry, we do remember, and like it very much. Thanks again Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 7, 2006
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