Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag
Hi, Yes sorry it's a little bit complicated to download, but it does work (and more importantly its a free service!), we will also put it up on the BIMS website at some point for download, (but the website maintainer is un-contactable at the moment and will no doubt do it when he can). A bit about us: Formed a couple of years ago, The British and Irish Meteorite Society is going from strength to strength, we've been doing good works behind the scenes giving local talks and exhibitions of our own rocks, and bringing UK collectors in general together. we have a nice little meteorite community going. The journal is a way of members contributing articles and getting more involved in the Society. It is published on a periodic basis when we have enough material (hopefully this will now be quarterly). We currently have about 35 members, it's been good to get a 'meteorite scene' going in the UK, hopefully we have all made some good friends and learned a lot. Best, Mark Ford (Chairman British and Irish Meteorite Society) IMCA #1388 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: 14 December 2006 02:50 To: Pat Brown Cc: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:35:17 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hi Dave, I could not make this link work, it wanted to sell me a file sharing service??? The service is useful in that it allows you to share files, but it is really annoying in doing it. You have to 1.) click on the free link, 2.) wait a certain number of seconds while a countdown takes place, and 3.) enter into a box the letters/numbers you see on screen (that to try to protect from machine hacking). THEN you will be allowed to download the file. http://rapidshare.com/files/7340626/Flowlines_2_nov2006.pdf __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower
Last night it was cloudy, but this morning, as I crossed the compound to the main building it was 4AM. In the 30 seconds it took to cross I saw three Geminids. After getting warmer clothing on I went back outside and watched for about 5 minutes. In that time I saw a good dozen or so. All of them were very white. Most had short trains, but one must have crossed 45 degrees of sky, slow but still bright white. Then the fog rose from the river and the sky was blanked out. Last week, before the official start of the shower, I saw the longest trained meteoroid ever. Crossing nearly the whole dome of the sky before burning out. Fantastic! Gary in New Hampshire Mountains __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite hunter stalks the otherworldly rocks
http://www.oregonlive.com/metrosouthwest/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/metro_sou thwest_news/116539171763970.xmlcoll=7 Meteorite hunter stalks the otherworldly rocks Called the Indiana Jones of dealers, he has been hooked since seeing his first shooting star - Thursday, December 14, 2006 Edwin Thompson knew by age 3 what a shooting star really was and at 16 saw his first fireball. He was driving home late on a clear January night when it streaked across his view and disappeared behind a nearby mountain, lighting up everything in its path. He pursued it by phone, reaching a director at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry and checking with a high school science teacher. Two weeks later the teacher called back: A dozen other witnesses had reported seeing a meteorite burn through the atmosphere and crash to Earth. It was never found, but Thompson was hooked and hooked again. He was already a rockhound, but his interest turned to the ultimate rocks. At 53, now a prominent meteorite collector and dealer, his passion for the subject still lights up every conversation. You can hold in your hand, he says with an intense gaze, a piece of outer space. Dipping into storage safes in his Lake Oswego home, he emerges with three hat-sized rocks that he calls some of the Holy Grail of meteoritics, the science of meteors. One is from Mars, he says, ejected from the surface when something struck the planet and sent debris skyward. Another probably is a piece from the asteroid Vesta, a 325-mile-diameter chunk that is a fellow traveler in our solar system. And the third, he says, might be from Mercury. Several million years ago Mercury lost its surface -- it was blown off, Thompson says. Rock fragments blasted from collisions in space continuously rain down upon the Earth. Drawn into our atmosphere, most of them burn up in a streak of light visible at night and commonly described as a shooting star. A few are big enough to survive the fiery ride and strike our planet's surface. Only about 18 meteorites are found each year worldwide. Some of them are newly fallen, but most have lain where they were found for eons. Among collectors, they are known as falls and finds, respectively. Most meteorites are small, but big ones have hit Earth in the past. Meteor Crater in Arizona is a striking example of the damage an exceedingly large meteorite can do; the moon's dimpled surface also is evidence of meteorite strikes. Thompson says large meteorites strike Earth on the average of once every 5,000 years. We are 400 years overdue for a major, crater-creating event, he says. The world's deserts are the best places to find meteorites, because they are preserved in arid conditions and are more easily found on barren ground. Meteorites that fall in Oregon, Thompson says, might disappear into thick forest vegetation. Iron meteorites landing here rust quickly, making them indistinguishable from other rocks. He shows one of his favorites, nicknamed The Turtle. Found in the Sahara and purchased by Thompson in Morocco for $4,000, the rock is an unusual oriented meteorite -- meaning it didn't tumble as it fell through the atmosphere. As a result, the front resembles the nosecone of a space capsule, rounded and smooth, while the sides and back have gouges where molten rock streaked away. Thompson previously was a sheet metal worker and worked in business management. He took up meteorite collecting and selling 25 years ago, ditching his day job in 1998 to go full time. The calling has taken him across the globe, buying from Berbers in North Africa and striking deals in Argentina, Australia and elsewhere. Thompson says he's been called the Indiana Jones of meteorite dealers because of his adventurous style -- he says he rode a camel during one North Africa trip. The world of meteorite collectors has its own arcane value system: Meteorites that hit something on the ground -- a house, car, mailbox -- become more valuable. Fragments and palm-sized stones that showered the Chicago suburb of Park Forest in March 2003, in one case crashing through a house and narrowly missing a sleeping 14-year-old boy, sold for $200 to $7,500. The first meteorite that hits a human is a $1 million rock, Thompson says. More information about meteorites is readily found with a Google search on the Internet. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 14, 2006
Hehe.. One article of Chladni, published in 1797, had the title: Ueber entgegengesetzte Electricitäten einer Katze. About contrarian electricities on a cat. He found on different places on a cat the fur charged... Most meteoricists love cats! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 06:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 14,2006 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/December_14.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Yet another SHAMELESS Ebay Auction Plug
Good Morning Meteorite Lovers I have auctions ending tonight catchafallingstar.com. Most started at 99 Cents!!!: http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=catchafallingstar.com An ORIENTED Sikhote-alin with DOUBLE roll over rims and LOTS of flow lines: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200052587020 A STUNNING roll over rim on this Sikhote-alin: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200049821439 LUNAR and MARS all with very favorable surface to weight ratio: NWA 482: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200049899712 NWA 2977: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200049903388 DAG 476: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200049905534 Full recap with photos on Paul and Jim's website: http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/catch_a_falling_star_meteorites.htm Thanks for looking Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December14, 2006
Right, Mr. Oldman, look here: http://www.meteorite-martin.de/images/meteor/tobus1.jpg or here: http://www.meteorite-martin.de/images/meteor/tobus2.jpg Even a Cat Mountain meteorite exists: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/arizona_meteorites/popups/cat_mtn.html Mououwwwouwwwouooo ! (sound of a lunatic cat, don't know whether a monomeouw or a polymeouw one) Wish all of you completely politically uncorrect not Happy Holidays, but: A MERRY CHRISTMAS ! Bethlehem and the Star - a quasi-meteoritical event ... Matthias - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December14, 2006 Hehe.. One article of Chladni, published in 1797, had the title: Ueber entgegengesetzte Electricitäten einer Katze. About contrarian electricities on a cat. He found on different places on a cat the fur charged... Most meteoricists love cats! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 06:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 14,2006 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/December_14.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Tis the Season... again
Hi Martin, all, I have a friend here, Serge (not our meteorite Serge) who enjoyed the Santa conundrum and here is his reply (to consider the way you feel or can). Of course, he must know something about physics... But not especially about relativity You just must keep in mind there is anopther solution for him: ubiquity. Imagine him being capable of dividing his wave function by one million : he would become one million fold ubiquitous . By the way, his weight could thus be expressed in terms of milligrams, and the forces related to the huge accelerations would be decreased by a factor by one trillion (one million to the square ), since ubiquity would not only reduce his weight, but also the velocity required for visiting all the children the same night... The limits are in our brains, not in physics !!! Enjoy the comment, Sincerely yours, Serge Note that in the French version of that statement (also circulating in the late 1990's) the conclusion was: Santa probably does not exist. And if he ever existed, now he should be dead... Best, Zelimir A 09:48 13/12/2006 -0700, Martin Horejsi a écrit : Greetings all, Seems that we have a new crop of List viewers this season so I thought I'd repost a Christmas conundrum that has puzzled me in the past. Since this story was borrowed from somewhere, original reference long lost, I again give my disclaimer: I didn't check the math, so use this story at your own risk. Merry Christmas! Martin Engineering Christmas: some points of contention 1. There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the world. However, since Santa does not generally visit children of non-Christian religions, this reduces the workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million (according to the Population Reference Bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 children per household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming that there is at least one good child in each home. 2. Santa has about 31 hours of Christmas to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of the earth, assuming he travels east to west (which seems logical).This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000th of a second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the stockings, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat whatever snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the sleigh and get on to the next house. Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed around the earth (which of course, we know to be false, but will accept for the purpose of our calculations),we are now talking about 0.78 miles per household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom stops or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second--3000 times the speed of sound. For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses space probe, moves at a poky 27.4 miles per second, and conventional reindeer can run (at best) 32 miles per hour. 3. The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming that each child gets nothing more than a medium sized Lego set (about 2 pounds), the sleigh is carrying over 500,000 tons, not counting Santa himself. On land a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 pounds. Even granting that the flying reindeer could pull ten times the normal amount, the job can't be done with eight or nine of them-- Santa would need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the weight of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons or roughly seven times the weight of the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch). Of course then, 4.600,000 tons traveling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance-- this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as spacecraft re-entering the earth's atmosphere.(which may explain Rudolph's red nose). The lead pair of reindeer would absorb 14.3 quintillion joules of energy per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating deafening sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be vaporized within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa reached the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however, since Santa as a result of accelerating from a dead stop to 650 m.p.s. in .001 seconds, would be subjected to centrifugal forces of 17,500 G's. A 250 pound Santa (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the sleigh by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of goo. And yet, he returns year after year. 5. Therefore, the rules of Newtonian physics obviously don't apply to Santa and his yearly mission. Speaking as an engineer, this guy must know something about relativity that the rest of us have
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December14, 2006
--- Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even a Cat Mountain meteorite exists: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/arizona_meteorites/popups/cat_mtn.html Mououwwwouwwwouooo ! (sound of a lunatic cat, don't know whether a monomeouw or a polymeouw one) Maybe we could also add: CAT-herwood De-CAT-urville Ma-CAT-uba Nor-CAT-eur Puente del Za-CAT-e Santa CAT-harina Wild-CAT Peak and both Za-CAT-ecas Meow! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag
HI Maybe I missed an email or two and we are talking about something different. I went to the website http://www.bimsociety.org/ scrolled to the bottom and just clicked on the link and downloaded the PDF file for the Flowline magazine, worked perfect, had no problems. Ed mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yes sorry it's a little bit complicated to download, but it does work (and more importantly its a free service!), we will also put it up on the BIMS website at some point for download, (but the website maintainer is un-contactable at the moment and will no doubt do it when he can). A bit about us: Formed a couple of years ago, The British and Irish Meteorite Society is going from strength to strength, we've been doing good works behind the scenes giving local talks and exhibitions of our own rocks, and bringing UK collectors in general together. we have a nice little meteorite community going. The journal is a way of members contributing articles and getting more involved in the Society. It is published on a periodic basis when we have enough material (hopefully this will now be quarterly). We currently have about 35 members, it's been good to get a 'meteorite scene' going in the UK, hopefully we have all made some good friends and learned a lot. Best, Mark Ford (Chairman British and Irish Meteorite Society) IMCA #1388 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: 14 December 2006 02:50 To: Pat Brown Cc: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:35:17 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hi Dave, I could not make this link work, it wanted to sell me a file sharing service??? The service is useful in that it allows you to share files, but it is really annoying in doing it. You have to 1.) click on the free link, 2.) wait a certain number of seconds while a countdown takes place, and 3.) enter into a box the letters/numbers you see on screen (that to try to protect from machine hacking). THEN you will be allowed to download the file. http://rapidshare.com/files/7340626/Flowlines_2_nov2006.pdf __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag
That one is issue 1 Issue 2 is the current edition but by all means enjoy them both! Best Mark _ From: edward moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2006 11:10 To: mark ford; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag HI Maybe I missed an email or two and we are talking about something different. I went to the website http://www.bimsociety.org/ scrolled to the bottom and just clicked on the link and downloaded the PDF file for the Flowline magazine, worked perfect, had no problems. Ed mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yes sorry it's a little bit complicated to download, but it does work (and more importantly its a free service!), we will also put it up on the BIMS website at some point for download, (but the website maintainer is un-contactable at the moment and will no doubt do it when he can). A bit about us: Formed a couple of years ago, The British and Irish Meteorite Society is going from strength to strength, we've been doing good works behind the scenes giving local talks and exhibitions of our own rocks, and bringing UK collectors in general together. we have a nice little meteorite community going. The journal is a way of members contributing articles and getting more involved in the Society. It is published on a periodic basis when we have enough material (hopefully this will now be quarterly). We currently have about 35 members, it's been good to get a 'meteorite scene' going in the UK, hopefully we have all made some good friends and learned a lot. Best, Mark Ford (Chairman British and Irish Meteorite Society) IMCA #1388 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: 14 December 2006 02:50 To: Pat Brown Cc: metlist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:35:17 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hi Dave, I could not make this link work, it wanted to sell me a file sharing service??? The service is useful in that it allows you to share files, but it is really annoying in doing it. You have to 1.) click on the free link, 2.) wait a certain number of seconds while a countdown takes place, and 3.) enter into a box the letters/numbers you see on screen (that to try to protect from machine hacking). THEN you will be allowed to download the file. http://rapidshare.com/files/7340626/Flowlines_2_nov2006.pdf __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=45083/*http:/advision.webevents.yahoo.com/ma ilbeta __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag
Good Morning All, the same here. I had no problem either and I am looking forward reading the issue over the weekend. Thank you for letting me join. with best regards, Moni From: edward moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BIMS mag Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:09:39 -0800 (PST) HI Maybe I missed an email or two and we are talking about something different. I went to the website http://www.bimsociety.org/ scrolled to the bottom and just clicked on the link and downloaded the PDF file for the Flowline magazine, worked perfect, had no problems. Ed _ Share your latest news with your friends with the Windows Live Spaces friends module. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmk __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunter Stalks the Otherworldly Rocks (Edwin Thompson)
http://www.oregonlive.com/metrosouthwest/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/metro_southwest_news/116539171763970.xmlco Meteorite hunter stalks the otherworldly rocks Called the Indiana Jones of dealers, he has been hooked since seeing his first shooting star ERIC MORTENSON The Oregonian December 14, 2006 Edwin Thompson knew by age 3 what a shooting star really was and at 16 saw his first fireball. He was driving home late on a clear January night when it streaked across his view and disappeared behind a nearby mountain, lighting up everything in its path. He pursued it by phone, reaching a director at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry and checking with a high school science teacher. Two weeks later the teacher called back: A dozen other witnesses had reported seeing a meteorite burn through the atmosphere and crash to Earth. It was never found, but Thompson was hooked and hooked again. He was already a rockhound, but his interest turned to the ultimate rocks. At 53, now a prominent meteorite collector and dealer, his passion for the subject still lights up every conversation. You can hold in your hand, he says with an intense gaze, a piece of outer space. Dipping into storage safes in his Lake Oswego home, he emerges with three hat-sized rocks that he calls some of the Holy Grail of meteoritics, the science of meteors. One is from Mars, he says, ejected from the surface when something struck the planet and sent debris skyward. Another probably is a piece from the asteroid Vesta, a 325-mile-diameter chunk that is a fellow traveler in our solar system. And the third, he says, might be from Mercury. Several million years ago Mercury lost its surface -- it was blown off, Thompson says. Rock fragments blasted from collisions in space continuously rain down upon the Earth. Drawn into our atmosphere, most of them burn up in a streak of light visible at night and commonly described as a shooting star. A few are big enough to survive the fiery ride and strike our planet's surface. Only about 18 meteorites are found each year worldwide. Some of them are newly fallen, but most have lain where they were found for eons. Among collectors, they are known as falls and finds, respectively. Most meteorites are small, but big ones have hit Earth in the past. Meteor Crater in Arizona is a striking example of the damage an exceedingly large meteorite can do; the moon's dimpled surface also is evidence of meteorite strikes. Thompson says large meteorites strike Earth on the average of once every 5,000 years. We are 400 years overdue for a major, crater-creating event, he says. The world's deserts are the best places to find meteorites, because they are preserved in arid conditions and are more easily found on barren ground. Meteorites that fall in Oregon, Thompson says, might disappear into thick forest vegetation. Iron meteorites landing here rust quickly, making them indistinguishable from other rocks. He shows one of his favorites, nicknamed The Turtle. Found in the Sahara and purchased by Thompson in Morocco for $4,000, the rock is an unusual oriented meteorite -- meaning it didn't tumble as it fell through the atmosphere. As a result, the front resembles the nosecone of a space capsule, rounded and smooth, while the sides and back have gouges where molten rock streaked away. Thompson previously was a sheet metal worker and worked in business management. He took up meteorite collecting and selling 25 years ago, ditching his day job in 1998 to go full time. The calling has taken him across the globe, buying from Berbers in North Africa and striking deals in Argentina, Australia and elsewhere. Thompson says he's been called the Indiana Jones of meteorite dealers because of his adventurous style -- he says he rode a camel during one North Africa trip. The world of meteorite collectors has its own arcane value system: Meteorites that hit something on the ground -- a house, car, mailbox -- become more valuable. Fragments and palm-sized stones that showered the Chicago suburb of Park Forest in March 2003, in one case crashing through a house and narrowly missing a sleeping 14-year-old boy, sold for $200 to $7,500. The first meteorite that hits a human is a $1 million rock, Thompson says. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR. Over 100 Auctions ENDING TODAY All During The Week... Prices Low/Items Are Really Going Fast!
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:41 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: BIGGEST SALE OF THE YEAR. Over 100 Auctions ENDING TODAY All During The Week... Prices Low/Items Are Really Going Fast! Hello Everyone, This is my biggest and most discounted SALE of the year! Over 100 Auctions ending today and throughout the week. I will be gone part of the week, so I will not be able to give you a heads up at the last minute so get your bids in early. Great items and you really will want to check them out. I will combine shipping on all items. There are also new items in my ebay store, with over 500 meteorites to choose from! SEE ALL Auctions at: http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfti dZ2QQsclZ2QQtZkm OR http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsu bZ0QQftidZ2QQtZkm ENDING TODAY! A 20.3 gram Rumuritiite slice . http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitemitem=200056691760 A beautiful 1332 gram Large GAO Stone http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056698405 Rare Fall from India FUTTEHPUR! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056698411 RARE Witnessed fall from INDIANA, Called HAMLET! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056698417 Check out this Lahoma, Oklahoma Endcut and other Lahoma specimens, with reduced prices for the Holidays! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056699852 MAIN MASS of a Rare H7 Chondrite! 208 grams! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056713948 ENDING SOON! A thin and large slice of NWA 482, Lunar at only $2.25 ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitemitem=200056694145 NWA 2378 (Fairly New), H3.5, Large slice, weighs 89.61 grams!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200056714838 Super RARE and Beautiful slice of GUJBA, 5 gram, with amazing inclusions. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200058214921 A 33 gram slice of TAFASSASSET, Super Rare and the only one of its kind, Carbonaceous Chondrite, CR Anomolous! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200058219250 PLUS, Many other great items to choose from. ALSO, if you see something in my ebay store that you like, but the price is scary, this week I am open to some wheeling and dealing. I just might accept your $$offer or trade. You never know unless you try!!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS and MUCH PEACE!!! Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower
Hello watchers, Clear skies yesterday and today here in southern Austria. A few nice bolides, now and then.slow and white, as I can tell. catch a falling star, put it in your pocket.. Stefan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comets As Toolkits For Jump-Starting Life (Stardust)
http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news109.html Comets As Toolkits For Jump-Starting Life December 14, 2006 Just as kits of little plastic bricks can be used to make everything from models of the space shuttle to the statue of liberty, comets are looking more and more like one of nature's toolkits for creating life. These chunks of ice and dust wandering our solar system appear to be filled with organic molecules that are the building blocks of life. The discovery of two kinds of nitrogen-rich organic molecules in comet Wild 2 is the latest addition to the set of bits and pieces useful to the origin of life that has been found in comets. These discoveries were made by members of the Stardust Preliminary Examination Team, a group of scientists who have been studying the samples returned from comet Wild 2 by NASA's Stardust spacecraft in January 2006. These results show that comets could have delivered nitrogen rich organic compounds to the early Earth where they would have been available for the origin of life, said Scott Sandford of NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. This discovery shows that the menu of compounds available for the origin of life was richer than had been previously thought, said Jason Dworkin of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. The two molecules we discovered in comet Wild 2, methylamine and ethylamine, provide a source of fixed nitrogen, a commodity which could have been rare on the ancient Earth. Nitrogen fixation is the conversion of the very stable nitrogen (N2) gas in our atmosphere to a biologically usable form, like an amine or nitrate -- the same compounds found in fertilizer. Enzymes that fix nitrogen appear to be ancient, so finding a source of fixed nitrogen would have been an early challenge for life from the time of its origin. We determined that at least one type of comet would have provided significant quantities of stable, fixed nitrogen in the form of methylamine and ethylamine, added Dworkin. This is the first time these molecules have been detected in comets. As the Stardust spacecraft sped through the comet's tail at nearly 21,000 kilometers per hour (13,000 miles per hour), a set of aerogel tiles mounted on a boom trapped dust and gas from the comet. Often referred to as frozen smoke, aerogel is the world's lowest density solid. Its low density allows it to slow and capture comet dust particles without vaporizing them. Although the mission's goal was to return samples of comet dust to Earth, the researchers looked for organic molecules that were embedded in the aerogel itself, rather than trapped in dust grains. We found that the aerogel acted like a sponge, absorbing organic gases from the comet nucleus, said Daniel Glavin of NASA Goddard. And just like squeezing a sponge, we squeezed out all the good stuff -- the water-soluble organics -- by boiling samples of the aerogel in ultra-high purity water, added Glavin. The team analyzed the aerogel water extract with a liquid chromatograph mass spectrometer instrument to identify the organic molecules. Since Earth is crawling with life, the team had to rule out contamination from our planet before it could say the molecules likely came from the comet. Glavin and Dworkin analyzed dozens of pre-flight aerogels that were not flown on Stardust in order to understand the organic background levels within the aerogel. The team found high levels of both methylamine and ethylamine in aerogel that was exposed to comet Wild 2. While they did find small amounts of methylamine and trace levels of ethylamine in the pre-flight aerogel, the total amount in the unflown aerogel was over 100 times less. Also, the relative amounts of the two molecules were very different from that found in the comet-exposed aerogel. The different total and relative amounts convinced the team that most of the two chemicals in the Stardust sample came from the comet. However, since Stardust was in space for seven years, the team had to be sure that the two chemicals weren't simply picked up while the spacecraft was cruising toward Wild 2. Since the pressure in space is so low, the spacecraft can release gas or volatile materials acquired during its manufacture on Earth. This is called outgassing, and it could have contaminated the aerogel as well. To reveal the levels of contamination from these two sources, the Stardust team included a special piece of aerogel called the witness tile on the spacecraft. It's a piece of aerogel located behind a dust shield that protected the spacecraft from high-speed collisions with comet particles. This location kept the witness tile from being exposed to gas and dust from the comet. But the witness aerogel was exposed to everything else Stardust encountered, including the manufacturing processes, shipping, the launch, spacecraft outgassing, and Earth reentry. When we analyzed a sample of the witness
[meteorite-list] NASA Study Finds New Kind of Organics in Stardust Mission
http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news108.html NASA Study Finds New Kind of Organics in Stardust Mission December 14, 2006 A team of scientists found a new class of organics in comet dust captured from comet Wild 2 in 2004 by NASA's Stardust spacecraft. The discovery is described in a technical paper, Organics Captured from Comet Wild 2 by the Stardust Spacecraft, in the Dec. 15 issue of Science Express, the online edition of the journal Science. In January 2004, the Stardust spacecraft flew through comet dust and captured specks of it in a very light, low-density substance called aerogel. Stardust's return capsule parachuted to the Utah Test and Training Range on Jan. 15, 2006, after a seven-year mission. The science canister containing the comet particles and interstellar dust particles arrived at Johnson Space Center on Jan. 17. From there, the cometary samples have been processed and distributed to about 150 scientists worldwide who are using a variety of techniques to determine the properties of the cometary grains. A portion of the organic material in the samples is unlike anything seen before in extraterrestrial materials, said Scott Sandford, the study's lead author and a scientist from NASA's Ames Research Center in California's Silicon Valley. Capturing the particles in aerogel was a little bit like collecting BBs by shooting them into Styrofoam. The comet organics collected by the Stardust spacecraft are more primitive than those seen in meteorites and may have formed by processes in nebulae, either in space clouds between the stars, or in the disk-shaped cloud of gas and dust from which our solar system formed, the study's authors found. Comets are a major source of the water and carbon on the moon, said S. Pete Worden, NASA Ames director. Therefore, understanding comets will help scientists learn what natural resources to search for on our nearest neighbor in space -- resources that will aid astronauts in exploration beyond Earth, Worden explained. The study's scientists used many highly sophisticated, state-of-the-art techniques to analyze the Stardust samples. Several of the analyses indicated that the samples contain polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), scientists said. PAHs are molecules made of carbon and hydrogen that are common in interstellar space - and in barbeque grill soot. Certain PAHs chemical varieties also contain oxygen and nitrogen. Some scientists believe that these PAHs variants exist in interstellar space as well. They are of interest to astrobiologists because these kinds of compounds play important roles in terrestrial biochemistry, according to Sandford. Our studies of the comet dust show that the organics are very rich in oxygen and nitrogen, Sandford said. The data are not incompatible with some of it being in the PAHs, but we still have a lot to learn in this area. Although some of the other organics captured by the Stardust spacecraft look somewhat similar to the fairly stable organics found in meteorites, Sandford noted that many of the organic compounds appear to be very volatile. One sample even showed an abundance of material containing alcohols. Many scientists believe that comets are largely made of the original material from which our solar system formed and could contain pre-solar system, interstellar grains. According to scientists, continued analysis of these celestial specks may well yield important insights into the evolution of the sun, its planets and possibly, even the origin of life. I anticipate that people will be asking for and working on these samples for decades to come, said Sandford. What we report in the papers that appear this week is just the beginning of what we will learn from these samples. One of the advantages of returned samples is that they are available for study into the future, a gift that keeps on giving. The organics paper is one of seven in the journal Science reporting the findings of the preliminary examination team that made the initial study of the cometary samples. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., manages the Stardust mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. Dr. Peter Tsou of JPL is deputy principal investigator and is a co-author of the paper. For more information about Stardust studies and other mission information, visit: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/ . JPL Media Contact for Stardust: DC Agle Phone: 818-393-9011 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -December14, 2006
Yes, and after all, they are listed in the Meteorite CAT-alog (american, I think), or CAT-alogue (english )..or CAT-álogo (Portuguese )! Meow! José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -December14, 2006 --- Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even a Cat Mountain meteorite exists: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/arizona_meteorites/popups/cat_mtn.html Mououwwwouwwwouooo ! (sound of a lunatic cat, don't know whether a monomeouw or a polymeouw one) Maybe we could also add: CAT-herwood De-CAT-urville Ma-CAT-uba Nor-CAT-eur Puente del Za-CAT-e Santa CAT-harina Wild-CAT Peak and both Za-CAT-ecas Meow! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stardust Findings Suggest Comets More Complex Than Thought
http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news110.html Stardust Findings Suggest Comets More Complex Than Thought December 14, 2006 Comets may be more than just simple conglomerations of ice, dust and gases. Some may be important windows on the early solar system. Others may have contributed materials necessary to the development of life on our own planet. Scientists have found a wide range of compositions and structures for the comet Wild 2 particles that were captured and returned to Earth by NASA's Stardust spacecraft. Their findings indicate the formation of at least some comets may have included materials ejected from the inner solar system to the far and cold outer edge of the solar nebula. Minerals formed near the sun or other stars were in the samples returned to Earth by the Stardust spacecraft in January 2006. The findings suggest materials from the inner regions of the solar system could have traveled to the outer reaches where comets formed. This may alter the way scientists view the formation and composition of comets. We have found very high-temperature minerals, which supports a particular model where strong bipolar gas jets coming out of the early sun propelled material formed near to the sun outward to the outer reaches of the solar system, said Michael Zolensky, NASA cosmic mineralogist and Stardust co-investigator at the Johnson Space Center (JSC), Houston. It seems that comets are not composed entirely of volatile rich materials but rather are a mixture of materials formed at all temperature ranges, at places very near the early sun and at places very remote from it. Zolensky is lead author of a paper on the mineralogy of the captured comet particles, one of seven reports about the mission's initial findings appearing in the Dec. 15 issue of Science Express, the online edition of the journal Science. Scientists have long thought of comets as cold, billowing clouds of ice, dust and gases formed on the edges of the solar system. But comets may not be so simple or similar. They may prove to be diverse bodies with complex histories. Comet Wild 2 certainly is made up of components with a more complex history than thought. Scientists found a wide variety in particle composition and size in the Wild 2 samples. Most of the Wild 2 samples appear to be weakly constructed mixtures of very small grains with a few larger grains. Also, a wide range of high- and low-temperature minerals, from olivine to low- and high-calcium pyroxene compositions, is present in the Wild 2 samples. Such a diversity of high- and low-temperature minerals requires a wide range of formation conditions, probably reflecting different formation locations. Many particles did not form in the cold environment and locations where cometary ices condensed. Instead, they needed high temperatures to form, as well as complex and as yet little understood dynamical processes to end up where comets actually formed. Also, particles from different environments must have undergone some process of accretion to end up as aggregates composed of different minerals. One of the major discoveries from the analysis of the comet samples was finding particles rich in organic matter. Comets are believed to have brought water and organic matter to the early Earth, and it is important to understand the nature of these materials because they are necessary ingredients for the origin of life, said Lindsay Keller, NASA scientist at JSC and Stardust co-investigator. One of the first analyses we obtained on the samples showed abundant hydrocarbons in many of the particles. Subsequent analyses revealed that some of the organic matter formed in the cold cloud of dust and gas that was the precursor to the solar system. Keller led a team of U.S. and international scientists using spectroscopic techniques to study the Stardust samples. Spectroscopy uses different wavelengths of light and other radiation to discover the chemical makeup of materials. The team's results also appear in this week's issue of Science. In addition to finding these varied compositions in the Wild 2 samples, Stardust investigators found a wide diversity of particle densities. The captured Wild 2 samples are predominantly fine-grained, loosely bound aggregates, most also containing much larger individual crystals of olivine, pyroxene and iron/nickel sulfides. All analyses suggest that small and large Wild 2 particles are composed of a similar, if not identical, suite of minerals. Many researchers, but not all, have thought that cometary solids are similar to interstellar dust, which is generally fine grained, said Friedrich Horz, NASA planetary scientist at JSC and lead author of a paper on impact features on Stardust and comet Wild 2 dust. These models entail that such particles existed during the formation of comets, as 'leftovers' from the initial gas and solid mixture that were not processed
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14, 2006
True, the same game can be played in German: Katalog, and cat is Katz(e) - so consequently it should be written KATZalog, what in fact sounds a bit funny. Well, the list already discussed the question of the smell of meteorites. Did anyone here ever l i s t e n to a nice iron or stone? I mean, not only under the saw? A wonderful oriented, lets say: Millbillillie individual, fusion crust black, laterit red, in the last rays of the evening sun, p u r r i n g ? All best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14, 2006 Yes, and after all, they are listed in the Meteorite CAT-alog (american, I think), or CAT-alogue (english )..or CAT-álogo (Portuguese )! Meow! José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -December14, 2006 --- Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even a Cat Mountain meteorite exists: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/arizona_meteorites/popups/cat_mtn.html Mououwwwouwwwouooo ! (sound of a lunatic cat, don't know whether a monomeouw or a polymeouw one) Maybe we could also add: CAT-herwood De-CAT-urville Ma-CAT-uba Nor-CAT-eur Puente del Za-CAT-e Santa CAT-harina Wild-CAT Peak and both Za-CAT-ecas Meow! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower
Forward of some successful Geminid Meteor Shower observations: Forward Messages Geminids 12-14-06 -Greenbelt, MD George Gliba gliba at milkyway.gsfc.nasa.gov Thu Dec 14 10:54:25 EST 2006 Geminid Maximum - Dec. 13/14, 2006 Greenbelt, Maryland - 390016N 0765233W Unexpectedly it cleared up; so I went out locally to observe the maximum of the Geminids. Conditions were about the same as two nights ago, but the rates were much better. With a bit of intermittent ground fog, the average limiting magnitude was still about 5.0 for the two hour watch. I saw 50 GEMs between 2:45 and 4:45 UT. The best meteor was a nice yellow-green -1 magnitude Geminid seen at 4:44 UT. The prettiest meteor was a blue-green 0 magnitude GEM seen at 3:58 UT. The average Geminid was a bright 1.5 magnitude, but there were no fireballs seen. Below is a short breakdown of the meteors seen. Time (UT) LM %Obst. XOR MON GEM HYD SPO Total FOV Comments 02:45-03:45 5.0 0% 3 0 25 0 5 33 5.4+38 some fog 03:45-04:45 5.0 0% 1 2 25 0 4 32 7.1+32 some fog Magnitude Distributions (2:45-4:45 UT) LM=5.0 some fog -1 0 1 2 3 4 5 Ave. Total XOR 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 2.5 4 MON 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 2.5 2 GEM 1 9 17 12 8 3 0 1.5 50 HYD 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 N/A 0 SPO 0 1 1 0 3 4 0 2.9 9 Clear Skies, GWG * Previous message: Obs: 12/13 December 2006 * Next message: Geminids Obs near peak (night of Dec 13-14) from Hawaii. --- Geminids Obs near peak (night of Dec 13-14) from Hawaii Michael Linnolt mlinnolt at alum.mit.edu Thu Dec 14 16:22:46 EST 2006 We had some typical trade wind weather conditions last night for the Geminids peak here in Hawaii. Some passing clouds interfered somewhat, but overall I had a pretty good show observing from my backyard in the suburbs of Honolulu. Limiting magnitude was a good 5.5-5.6 in moderate light pollution, due to lack of moonlight and generally transparent skies. I guess I was in about the ideal location this year, as the peak occured around midnight, just before moonrise! Activity was quite reasonable, with a total of 33 GEM seen in an hour. Pretty well distributed in brightness too, with quite a few bright ones to make for an exciting session. A mag -4 near-fireball was the most impressive one. It appeared that the activity was higher between 0930-10UT, an hour before the predicted 1045UT peak, than 10-1030UT however. REPORT FOLLOWS: === OBS: Mike Linnolt (LINMI) DATE: Dec 14, 2006 TIME: 0930 - 1032 UT LOC: Honolulu, Hawaii (21° 16' N, 157° 48' W) ELEV: 230 feet Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Temp 70F. METHOD: Paper Observing Periods Summary: == # Period(UT) FOV Teff F LM GEM SPO - -- --- - --- --- --- 1 0930-1001 04h+10 0.50 1.3 5.5 19 2 1 1001-1032 05h+10 0.50 1.2 5.6 14 4 Periods Detail: === Period #1: -- Mag -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 -- GEM: 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 1 4 4 3 4 0 = 19 SPO: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 = 2 DEAD TIME: 1 min Period #2: -- Mag -6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6 -- GEM: 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 4 2 2 4 0 = 14 SPO: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 = 4 DEAD TIME: 1 min END OF REPORT __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Zagami ending, lower price
I need some holiday cash so here is your chance to own a very nice, thin slice of Zagami with large surface area. Lowered the price on this baby, so bid on it! Ends in 6 hours. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250059655706ssPageName=ADME:X:EMTFW:US:11 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250059655706ssPageName=ADME:X:EMTFW:US:11 -- === Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA http://www.mhmeteorites.com ebay id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14, 2006
Yes! A wise and old collector once said: In a silent night, you can here your Brahin fart. Huh, when I'm singing to the superfresh NWAs we have left from the Hamburg show: Have you ever seen the rain? they chorus: We are the men in black! And then they start to cry: Plase, we want to stay with you, don't send us away! Bad luck, no Christmas Carol for them, Martenezer Scrooge will sell them all, har! So if you have a heart, rescue them and give them a snug home for Xmas. ADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADAD ADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADAD ADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADADAD!! Hohoho. Buckleboo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Matthias Bärmann Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 23:11 An: Jose Campos; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14,2006 True, the same game can be played in German: Katalog, and cat is Katz(e) - so consequently it should be written KATZalog, what in fact sounds a bit funny. Well, the list already discussed the question of the smell of meteorites. Did anyone here ever l i s t e n to a nice iron or stone? I mean, not only under the saw? A wonderful oriented, lets say: Millbillillie individual, fusion crust black, laterit red, in the last rays of the evening sun, p u r r i n g ? All best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14, 2006 Yes, and after all, they are listed in the Meteorite CAT-alog (american, I think), or CAT-alogue (english )..or CAT-álogo (Portuguese )! Meow! José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -December14, 2006 --- Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even a Cat Mountain meteorite exists: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/arizona_meteorites/popups/cat_mtn.html Mououwwwouwwwouooo ! (sound of a lunatic cat, don't know whether a monomeouw or a polymeouw one) Maybe we could also add: CAT-herwood De-CAT-urville Ma-CAT-uba Nor-CAT-eur Puente del Za-CAT-e Santa CAT-harina Wild-CAT Peak and both Za-CAT-ecas Meow! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14, 2006
Buckleboo-Martin wrote: A wise and old collector once said: In a silent night, you can here your Brahin fart. As far as I recall it was a somewhat younger, but yet wise man saying On a quiet day you can hear a Nantan rust! (BR, in the late ninetees..) Anyway, a true statement from both wise men, may they be old or young, which does not count (...ever since Einstein). Alex Berlin/Germany -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Matthias Bärmann Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2006 23:11 An: Jose Campos; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14,2006 True, the same game can be played in German: Katalog, and cat is Katz(e) - so consequently it should be written KATZalog, what in fact sounds a bit funny. Well, the list already discussed the question of the smell of meteorites. Did anyone here ever l i s t e n to a nice iron or stone? I mean, not only under the saw? A wonderful oriented, lets say: Millbillillie individual, fusion crust black, laterit red, in the last rays of the evening sun, p u r r i n g ? All best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day-December14, 2006 Yes, and after all, they are listed in the Meteorite CAT-alog (american, I think), or CAT-alogue (english )..or CAT-álogo (Portuguese )! Meow! José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day -December14, 2006 --- Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even a Cat Mountain meteorite exists: http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/arizona_meteorites/popups/cat_mtn.html Mououwwwouwwwouooo ! (sound of a lunatic cat, don't know whether a monomeouw or a polymeouw one) Maybe we could also add: CAT-herwood De-CAT-urville Ma-CAT-uba Nor-CAT-eur Puente del Za-CAT-e Santa CAT-harina Wild-CAT Peak and both Za-CAT-ecas Meow! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower
Poor weather in Colorado, too. Nevertheless, I got about 92 meteors on my camera the last two nights. The composite image is at http://www.cloudbait.com/science/geminid2006.html . Because most were imaged through clouds, these are actually brighter than they appear. Most have negative magnitudes. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: metorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:51 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Geminid Meteor Shower It is way too cloudy in tennessee to see any good stuff , i hope others have a better view.Good luck Herman. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Mineral show/auction/meteorites
Hi Has anybody got details of times and location of the 2007 Tucson show. We will be travelling over from the uk to visit the area on holiday when its on I believe. It will be my first visit so any tips welcome! :-) My wife is into horse riding, so she will be happy whilst I visit the show...if we find some good riding facilities. Does anybody know of a good place or ranch/accommodation for our stay? (not too far from Tucson) Also thinking of trying to find a desert area to do some meteorite hunting...anyone got suggestions? My only find in the UK was in Ireland...surely the desert has to be a little easier than my wet and overgrown home country. Regards Graham Ensor, Near Barwell, UK __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake
what is the biggest piece of this known nad what is it worth in U$D? are there any pix of it? if so, where? all i have seen are dirt-like pieces not big enough to fingerfondle (10g or more). is it worth a dive on the lake to find more? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD) TRADE and FORSALE offer
Hi list.I have 5 meteorites forsale or trade.The first one is a 144 gram slice of HAH 183,NWA 2696,A 45 gram endcut howardite,NWA 2828 (PALEOMETEORITE),26 GRAMS slice,TITOLAR 70 gram individual,and an 86 gram slice of NWA 1941.I am looking for any completely crusted GAO individuals,or I will sell them to you.Let me know off list. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] biggest taggish lake
"Dive for Meteorites", very interesting IM just outside Seattle can dive any depth all equipment mannedor unmanned. I was under the impression they would rust away and simply dismissed hunting underwater. Most bottom types composed of mud, soil, silt ect.. leave long lasting impressions "a history". Someone with experience reading the bottomoptically without disturbing the surface layers can quickly narrow down the search area for magnetic, electronicand sub bottom surface 3D sonar imaging. It can be very rewarding finding something efficiently,especially in a lake. Im just a rookie Meteorite hunter and new to the list, but have been working on the bottom for 37 years. I hope the list will create a discussion on this topic if you think it is valid, seems to be a lot of knowledge and experience here. Our ability to find things on the bottom improves constantly. I have a map of the debris field I would say there are finds to be made in the lakes. My question is, at what rate can we expect them to corrode? I've seen metal dissolve in days and others that are hundreds of years on the bottom. Chemical compositionof bottom type, metal object and water,also temperatures how deep in the bottomall are factors. Do we have a source for lake data? What say you list? Rick what is the biggest piece of this known nad what is it worth in U$D? are there any pix of it? if so, where? all i have seen are dirt-like pieces not big enough to fingerfondle (10g or more). is it worth a dive on the lake to find more? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) TRADE and FORSALE offer
Thanks for the offer, but I only deal with reputable dealers. Dave UNFOSS 0049 - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:29 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) TRADE and FORSALE offer Hi list.I have 5 meteorites forsale or trade.The first one is a 144 gram slice of HAH 183,NWA 2696,A 45 gram endcut howardite,NWA 2828 (PALEOMETEORITE),26 GRAMS slice,TITOLAR 70 gram individual,and an 86 gram slice of NWA 1941.I am looking for any completely crusted GAO individuals,or I will sell them to you.Let me know off list. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
