[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - March 10, 2007
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Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
Hello Ken, All, That looks nothing like a fresh iron meteorite. Fusion crust? That looks more like rust, and nevermind those shallow indentations that are being called regmaglypts - if you want to see what a fresh iron looks like, take out a Sikhote or Taza - or draw up some pics of any other falls around in museums. The jagged edges as well...come on - you'd only get those with a multiple-fall, and in order for one of those, you'd need a sizable fireball to accompany its entry. This one looks like a rusty piece of crap - much worse than the NJ object, and that one was complete rubbish to start out with. Regards, Jason On 3/6/07, ken newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In case you missed the video: http://www.pantagraph.com/video/2007/030507_spaceobject/ In the video, Skip mentions fusion crust and thumbprints on the side we did not see. Thanks to Dave, I wrote the David Proeber and he sent this: http://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/temp/03052007bb.jpg Best, ken newton Dave Freeman mjwy wrote: Dear List;] Here is the email address of the photographer and story artist You may all wish to ask him to follow up on the story to either disprove, or prove the rock in question. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best, Dave Freeman RS WY Ron Baalke wrote: http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/03/05/news/doc45ec62e14a6c2722505892.txt __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
Can anyone get ahold of the famous Myth Busters in the San Francisco area, this one would be a great one for Jammie to tackle! Best, Dave F myth busted. Matson, Robert wrote: Hi Ken, In case you missed the video: http://www.pantagraph.com/video/2007/030507_spaceobject/ Thanks very much for posting the video link. Now we can see that although my estimate yesterday of the computer table's depth of two feet was maybe a little high, the hole in the window is far less than the 5-1/2 feet above the table I generously allowed. Which means the entry angle must be considerably less steep than the 70 degrees that has been claimed. Looks closer to 60 degrees, demonstrating once again that most people are not very accurate when it comes to estimating angles. Note that there was no tree or other structure immediately outside the bedroom window to redirect the metal through the window. No matter how generous you want to get with prevailing winds or aerodynamic lift, I don't think you can get the ballistics to work for a chunk of exoatmospheric metal. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
Hello Gary, All, Fallen meteorites do not have 'craters' on them. Their flight through earth's atmosphere removes all traces of original exterior surfaces that existed when the body was still in space (or, if the body is large enough to retain some of these features on its rear side, it simply vapourizes on impact). The only instances we see of 'craters' on meteorites have occurred in large iron falls in which fragments supposedly collide with each other while falling (I personally believe that the 'impact features' seen on 'Franconia irons' are due to siliceous material boiling out of the iron explosively). That being said, the existence of 'craters' - or, as I see, simply jagged/dented edges, would point towards it being a piece of space junk or just a piece of airborne metal, though how it came to fly through a window, desk, etc, is beyond me. Regards, Jason On 3/6/07, Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone noticed the impact crater on the edge of this object? If I missed a post pointing it out I apologize. Seems obvious to me... Gary Hi Ken, In case you missed the video: http://www.pantagraph.com/video/2007/030507_spaceobject/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] B.O.: Purina Iron Chow unlikely; Bloomington Airport probably ruled out
Anything launched from Purina would have been traveling well over 200mph so if it was only 60 mph we are talking a launch distance of might be 40 feet of free fall which means somebody threw it at the window. Cheers! Steve - Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Welcome Susa
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[meteorite-list] Welcome Susa
Hi ! Welcome to the list Susa! I once lived in Michigan. Best regards Steve - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go....
Well it looks like it was not a rock but, ( no pun ) might of been a magnet. Maybe he was coming here to look for some meteorites. Ed LOS ANGELES An Iraqi immigrant with a suspicious device lodged in a body cavity was detained Tuesday at Los Angeles International Airport, authorities said. A jetliner bound for Philadelphia, meanwhile, was diverted to Las Vegas because the man's luggage was aboard. Officials said the device and the luggage were cleared by bomb squads in Los Angeles and Las Vegas. There never was a threat, said Larry Fetters, a security director for the federal Transportation Security Administration. Fadhel Al-Maliki, 35, was held for a mental evaluation and for a possible immigration violation, federal officials said. Al-Maliki, of Atlantic City, N.J., is a permanent legal resident who came to the U.S. in 1994. He had flown to Los Angeles from Philadelphia on Monday and was booked for a return flight early Tuesday. He triggered an alert during a security screening, FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said. He initially said (the device) was therapeutic, she said. The device had a wire and what may have been a magnet concealed in his rectum, federal officials said. It did not contain any explosives. /**/ Al-Maliki said he had flown to Los Angeles for a visit, Eimiller said. No takeoffs or landings were affected at the LA airport. But a US Airways jet en route to Philadelphia was diverted because Al-Maliki's checked luggage already had been screened and put aboard. Flight 1422, carrying 143 passengers and six crew, landed at McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas about 8:30 a.m. The plane was searched and later cleared to continue on to Philadelphia, an airport spokesman said. ___ Associated Press Writer Ken Ritter in Las Vegas contributed to this report. Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox news is just now reporting that a certain foreign national was arrested at LAX airport with wires hanging off of him. Upon further investigation, they found a piece of chewing gum, some more wire and a rock in his XXX. As the suspect put it- the rock is from another planet and was in there to protect him OK- lets say it is a meteorite ;-) -what will be the official name of the location found? -what lab will(want?)do an analysis on it? -how long until it winds up on eBay? -will it replace the current urgent need for Gao pieces? I needed a grin tonight- this was it. Take care Mike Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Google Map to house location industrial plant to its northwe
Check the railroad track on the map. Picture a freight train zooming along and suddenly one of the Peck and Hale container hold-downs fails and the broken pieces are hit with a couple hundred tons of force. It's not hard to see a chunk arcing a few hundred meters and crashing through the guy's window. It would be rusty. It would have lots of sharp and straight edges. Paul Swartz BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go....
Maybe it's the first meteorite from a black hole. Greg Stanley Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox news is just now reporting that a certain foreign national was arrested at LAX airport with wires hanging off of him. Upon further investigation, they found a piece of chewing gum, some more wire and a rock in his XXX. As the suspect put it- the rock is from another planet and was in there to protect him OK- lets say it is a meteorite ;-) -what will be the official name of the location found? -what lab will(want?)do an analysis on it? -how long until it winds up on eBay? -will it replace the current urgent need for Gao pieces? I needed a grin tonight- this was it. Take care Mike Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go....
Let's all laigh at the arrest of one who is an other. It takes our minds from our own failures. You can spell rectum on this list, although I'm not a proctologist. Mike Groetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox news is just now reporting that a certain foreign national was arrested at LAX airport with wires hanging off of him. Upon further investigation, they found a piece of chewing gum, some more wire and a rock in his XXX. As the suspect put it- the rock is from another planet and was in there to protect him OK- lets say it is a meteorite ;-) -what will be the official name of the location found? -what lab will(want?)do an analysis on it? -how long until it winds up on eBay? -will it replace the current urgent need for Gao pieces? I needed a grin tonight- this was it. Take care Mike Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go....
Hi It gets very confusing with all of the different NWA's, pairing etc Now do we have a new subclass of NWA's?? Non Western Anus Ed mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best has to be ... wait for it ...'Shitcoated-Alin' -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Forbes Sent: 08 March 2007 07:49 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go Aaaahh, ha ha ha haaa, If fossilised pooh is called coprolite, what do you call meteorite pooh, or pooh that falls from the sky? I know, sh*tty subject. And to think that once upon a time, trains and planes used to just dump it all in transit. I remember the signage, 'Passengers, do not use toilet at stations.' SPLAT 'Oh, crap.' Fox news is just now reporting that a certain foreign national was arrested at LAX airport with wires hanging off of him. Upon further investigation, they found a piece of chewing gum, some more wire and a rock in his XXX. As the suspect put it- the rock is from another planet and was in there to protect him OK- lets say it is a meteorite ;-) -what will be the official name of the location found? -what lab will(want?)do an analysis on it? -how long until it winds up on eBay? -will it replace the current urgent need for Gao pieces? I needed a grin tonight- this was it. Take care Mike ___ _ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Ea u_t=757263760_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06_m=EXT __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test message
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: What a sleezy character you are.
and after I am the person start the fights in the listsure I not put private emails in the list... Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi eveyone, I have just emerged from a near 3 week meteorite hunting expedition, and checking my email, recieved this from our highly edumacated friend in Peru. Just by reading this, you can all see the civility and manners which ooze from this man. Michael Farmer --- Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 20:26:26 -0800 (PST) From: Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What a sleezy character you are. To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Farmer, Out of curiousity I did a little checking. Dropped out of college to pursue meteorite hunting? Greed won out over education. How pathetic. I see you found your little niche, being the first one to pounce on a new find. Your greed just pours out of these articles. How much of the park forest did you keep for yourself after telling the police you needed to cut it. Well... Fatboy, I guess my post was directed straight to you. My little net caught a big fat fish. I'm making copies of your little pig-face picture and will send them to my friends in Aplao along with a increase in reward. And in the future, you just might find me one step ahead at new falls, especially in South America. Randall It's a cutthroat business, Farmer says, where there is a huge demand for a very small amount of material Breaking into the business was difficult, Farmer recalls, but he earned the respect of established dealers by being first on the scene of three high-profile meteorite falls The first two trips didn't pay off immediately, but they earned him the reputation of being a go-getter. A football-size meteorite fell on Monahans, Texas in March 1998. Within 30 hours, Farmer was on the scene, but it was already too late. There was already a fight between the finders and the city over who rightfully owned the rock, a meteorite broker was already involved and NASA was trying to get the rock. Shortly after Farmer got to Monahans, a NASA researcher arrived to bargain with the town to take the rock for study at the Johnson Space Center in Houston. Farmer left with nothing. Three months later a mess of meteorites from a rock that exploded in the air fell near Portales Valley, New Mexico, not far from the Texas panhandle. Farmer again went straight to the desert region where people had seen the fall, and he was just in time to see an amateur collector find an 11-pound (5-kilogram) chunk of the rock. Farmer tried to buy it, but the finder wouldn't sell. Farmer found a few small pieces, but nothing major. In April 1999, Farmer heard about a new fall in Ourique, Portugal. Without a second thought, he bought a ticket to Lisbon and jumped on a plane with $10,000 cash. I heard about it in a little note on the Internet. And I took the risk and just flew over there, Farmer explained. He rented a car and drove to the small village in southwest Portugal, and within hours he had cornered the world market on the prized new meteorite It had just never made the news, Farmer said, until this little thing came on the Internet about it being classified. Scientists at the university had classified the meteorite -- determined its composition, its type and given it a name. They posted and announcement on the Internet, where Farmer saw it. He was in Portugal the day after reading the very first public mention of the meteorite. Farmer went into the town tavern, set up his scales on the bar, and spread the word that he would pay for pieces of meteorite The investment paid off, though. Having the entire world market of a brand new fall, Farmer had no trouble unloading the material. It became a rock that everybody had to have. From museums to private collectors, everyone wanted a piece. He traded some pieces with museums for other rare meteorite types, and sold the rest through his website at $10 a gram. He called me up a couple days before Christmas and needed money, Farmer said, I told him I'd be there the next day with cash. I got it -- for a much lower price than I offered originally. He was in Uruguay in January arranging a big purchase. He sped to Canada in March when he heard that pieces of a meteorite that exploded in the sky above the Yukon Territory had been found on the ground. He had no luck because the finder was determined to keep the location a secret, but others in the meteorite community applaud his efforts. ) I hunt for meteorites all over the world. My meteorite hunting trips include Australia, Chile, Bolivia, Canada, all over the USA, Oman, Burkina Faso, Lesotho, Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Western
[meteorite-list] Collection Site Update
hello I have update my site with a over 10 kg. Gibeon, Juvinas, Bur Gheluai, Basikounou, Wiluna and some Libyan Glass http://www.mcomemeteorite.info Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] liquidation from mohamed ait ouzrou
dear listees members , i have a liquidation in meteorites if some one interested can visite this blog , www.meteoriteforsalle.skyblog.com , this blog includ some good stones and i have sone Carboneceus too but idon't show it in the blog more then this i have a small monster includ 42kilo but it's broken by Nomad , so if some one intersted in one of these offer can contact me at this email adress , [EMAIL PROTECTED] . i'm will happy to serve list members , many greeting to all members , Mohamed ait ouzrou - Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Oh boy - Here we go...
Hi It gets very confusing with all of the different NWA's, pairing etc Now do we have a new subclass of NWA's?? Non Western Anus Ed Michael Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Darren List Could this be a new type of silicate darkening? Man with object, wires, etc. to security: AW COME ON! You guys are just jerking my chain, right? On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:41:56 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Upon further investigation, they found a piece of chewing gum, some more wire and a rock in his XXX. As the suspect put it- the rock is from another planet and was in there to protect him OK- lets say it is a meteorite ;-) The first meteorite from Uranus. ___ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question from a novice.
Hello all, I'm new to collecting meteorites (only 11 so far). I live in Arizona and I thought I'd try to find some of my own out in the field. I was wondering what type of metal detectors are best suited for locating meteorites. It would also be nice if the detector could serve more than one function. For instance, I'd like to be able to locate gold nuggets also. So, what would you suggest? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Greg Lindh __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Met Friends
My picture looks horrible, I'm not very photogenic. But it's a picture I sent to my wife when I was deployed to the Gulf Coast on the USS Kearsarge. We were on shore leave and I took a trip to Pompeii and climbed Mt Vesuvius :) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home
Shhht. Martin, the clairevoyant has a vision: I see 51.8ppm. Ga, 161ppm. Ge, 0.029ppm. Ir But my crystal ball got opaque, before I could read thee ebay-ID of the neighbour Martin Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jason Utas Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. März 2007 23:54 An: Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Hits Illinois Home Hello Ken, All, That looks nothing like a fresh iron meteorite. Fusion crust? That looks more like rust, and nevermind those shallow indentations that are being called regmaglypts - if you want to see what a fresh iron looks like, take out a Sikhote or Taza - or draw up some pics of any other falls around in museums. The jagged edges as well...come on - you'd only get those with a multiple-fall, and in order for one of those, you'd need a sizable fireball to accompany its entry. This one looks like a rusty piece of crap - much worse than the NJ object, and that one was complete rubbish to start out with. Regards, Jason __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Threats from Mr Gregory, this guy is a piece of work.
List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family. Read this and tell me that this man is a nice, well-mannered gentleman! We are not dealing with a stable man. Mr Gregory, a few more threats like this and I will have to go to the police. Since you threatened to have anyone going to your crater inprisoned, and tortured, and denied help from their respective embassy, you sir, deserved anything and everything said about you. For your information, I am using an Arabic keyboard, so typing is not so easy, spelling errors are a tad common I am afraid. I am also amused that a man with your supposed skills, degrees, and certifications, must stoop to commenting one someones weight to put them down. It shows the desperation in your position, that you now have put time and money into a boondoggle, a fake crater with not one cent in meteorites to be found. As the realization that you have a worthless piece of dirt to play in, you lash out at the messengers who have called you on your announcement. Myself, I have done quite well in the last weeks:) More to come on my spectacular finds in the near future. By the way, my parter is a gun dealer, so any attempts at my home and collection will be met with an unpleasant surprise for the attemptee. Arizona provides very clear laws providing me with the use of deadly force for protection of ones life and property. I am sure you know all about that. Michael Farmer --- Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:53:53 -0800 (PST) From: Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite crater - friendly warning to hunters To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. Your post was not intended to be sarcastic. An idiot could see the underlying tone to your post. Time for pretending left with the 6th grade, Mike. Now you're calling people STUPID. And apparently, you still can't spell. It's thrown not trown. And here's another lesson for you.stupid people are people that call people stupid. Take your time Mike, it will be a long time before you figure that one out. And I'll give you a word of advice. Keep screwing with me, and I''ll send a few e-mails to a couple of Arizona prisons letting them know you have a $1 million dollar unsecured collection in a safe at your house, I'll even send them your address. Let's test you level of paranoia? Shall we... Torture ? Get real. Randall Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, are you really that stupid? I did not threaten his life I made a ridiculous post to counter his rude and ridiculous post saying that he would have any of us who threatened his crater trown in jail and tortured. Learn about sarcasm, it will make your life much easier. Michael Farmer Sorry about the late reply, but I have had no email access in more than two weeks. --- Bill wrote: What the hell is wrong with you people, list members? Enough already. Are you all so full of yourselves that you have to pursue a new witch hunt on a regular basis? I don't see this guy spamming after he was threatened with his life by Mike. C'mon. How freaking ignorant was that? Uncalled for Mike. No excuses for that one. If those that need a goat are so bored as to jump this man, they need to get off their asses and find another interest. Let it go. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sorry, delete my delayed email fix email
Well my idea wasn't very bang on. Looks like the computer changed the meteorite central link to a hyperlink and so my email didn't go thru. Must be the special text that slows 'em up somewhere in the email system (and none of the problem has anything to do with my dumb idea). Sorry, if this email gets to you before the other one I sent today, don't worry, the other one's not worth much. Tractor mechanic __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007 AGU Meeting
Dear Friends, Apparently, there is going to be some interesting papers at the 2007 Joint Assembly of the American Geophysical Union as there will be a session presenting evidence for an impact having occurred during Younger-Dyras times at the end of the last Ice Age. Below are links to representative abstracts: 1. Evidence for an Extraterrestrial Impact Event 12,900 years ago that Contributed to Megafaunal Extinctions and the Younger Dryas Cooling http://submissions5.agu.org/aguconvener/ConvenerView.asp?ref=1388 2. Formation of the Carolina Bays: ET Impact vs. Wind-and-Water http://submissions5.agu.org/aguconvener/ConvenerView.asp?ref=1334 3. Extraterrestrial Markers Found at Clovis Sites Across North America http://submissions5.agu.org/aguconvener/ConvenerView.asp?ref=1393 4. Is There Evidence for Impact-Triggered Fires at the End Pleistocene? http://submissions5.agu.org/aguconvener/ConvenerView.asp?ref=513 The session itself is PP05: New Insights into Younger Dryas Climatic Instability, Mass Extinction, the Clovis People, and Extraterrestrial Impacts http://www.agu.org/meetings/ja07/?content=searchshow=detailsessid=159 It looks like Firestone and his supporters are refining their arguments and dropping the implausible ones, i.e. the so-called meteor crater in Lake Michigan, and concentrating on what they regard the basic evidence for their ideas. Best Regards, Paul H. Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007 AGU Meeting
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:00:15 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Apparently, there is going to be some interesting papers at the 2007 Joint Assembly of the American Geophysical Union as there will be a session presenting evidence for an impact having occurred during Younger-Dyras times at the end of the last Ice Age. Below are links to representative abstracts: 2. Formation of the Carolina Bays: ET Impact vs. Wind-and-Water http://submissions5.agu.org/aguconvener/ConvenerView.asp?ref=1334 Heres a good photo of a few Carolina Bays (which sure don't look like impact craters to me): http://www.ncdot.org/doh/PRECONSTRUCT/highway/photo/Products/images/Carolina_Bays_BW.jpg Of course, then again they are the primary natural habitat of the only known Venusian plant on Earth, so there you go. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
Michael Blood and List, Like you, I find it annoying that a few ( one in this case) list members can't follow basic Met.List rules, one of which is to refrain from posting private e-mails. I do agree that it's true that Mr. Gregory is way out of line making the threats that he has recently. However, we all saw a pretty good example of his demeanor and threatening language recently so we probably don't need more confirmation from Farmer. You would think that after nearly a decade of being smack in the middle of nearly every ego war and mud slinging event that has been on the Meteorite List that Mike would have developed the hide of a rhino and be able to dismiss threats without a second thought. Don't want to hear, John At 01:19 PM 3/10/2007, Michael L Blood wrote: on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory
Hi Mike, Mike, and List, The contents of Mike Farmer's post was obvious from the subject line, thereby easily deleted if that thread wasn't interesting to the listee. His post didn't bother me. Cheers, Pete From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:19:57 -0800 on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Have Some Fun Out Of The Sun This March Break http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!142 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members
All list members , Once again: The request was to hear from ONLY those list members that want to hear these arguments on the list. - Otherwise, talking about it is STILL talking about it. So, please comment ONLY IF YOU WANT these arguments posted on the list. (NOTE: Those who do not want them or don't care because they just delete them NEED MAKE NO COMMENT) Thanks, Michael on 3/10/07 12:52 PM, Pete Pete at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike, Mike, and List, The contents of Mike Farmer's post was obvious from the subject line, thereby easily deleted if that thread wasn't interesting to the listee. His post didn't bother me. Cheers, Pete From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMrGregory Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:19:57 -0800 on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Have Some Fun Out Of The Sun This March Break http://local.live.com/?mkt=en-ca/?v=2cid=A6D6BDB4586E357F!142 -- You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses. - Ziggy - in a comic strip by Tom Wilson -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
Hello All, I read Mike's post. It's one of the few posts that I did read. And I chose to read it because of the subject line. Those who didn't want to read it didn't have to... I'd like to hear about what's going on among those who think they've found a treasure. It's better to be forewarned about strange antics and disputes in the meteorite community than to be surprised by them in the field. Not knowing about something that is potentially dangerous has a cost that is far greater than knowing about only things that are potentially beneficial. For every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under Heaven... Nick Gessler __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
OK, There it is. Now some Proud Tom, PLEASE! Best wishes, Michael on 3/10/07 1:54 PM, Nicholas Gessler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I read Mike's post. It's one of the few posts that I did read. And I chose to read it because of the subject line. Those who didn't want to read it didn't have to... I'd like to hear about what's going on among those who think they've found a treasure. It's better to be forewarned about strange antics and disputes in the meteorite community than to be surprised by them in the field. Not knowing about something that is potentially dangerous has a cost that is far greater than knowing about only things that are potentially beneficial. For every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under Heaven... Nick Gessler -- You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses. - Ziggy - in a comic strip by Tom Wilson -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Orleans
Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized pieces. Anyone know why this is so? Bruce _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1FORM=MGAC01 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] gao
Hello list on this 50 degree day.I am really looking for more gao of any size.Small,medium,or big.It must be at least 95% fusion crusted.I still am always looking for trades as well.Let me know off list.This meteorite is just so fascinating. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
It is not true...therre have been a few 500+g pieces, many 100g, and alot of 20g+. matt Bruce Yankewitz wrote: Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized pieces. Anyone know why this is so? Bruce _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more….then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1FORM=MGAC01 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] gao
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:35:45 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hello list on this 50 degree day.I am really looking for more gao of any size. Okay, fess up-- are you trying to reconstruct the parent body? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Article From Gem and Mineral Society Newsletter
An example of what is being written about meteorites in the newsletters of gem and mineral societies can be found online. It is: Rike III, Z. W., 2006, Meteoroids, Meteors and Meteorites - Part 1. Pineywoods Rooter, Novmeber 2006, Pine Country Gem Mineral Society. This article is repinted on pages 27 31 of vol. 38, no.2 (February 2007) of the Backbend's Gazette, which published by the Houston Gem and Mineral Society ( http://www.hgms.org/ ). The article and issue can downloaded from the February 2007 link on the back issue web page at: http://www.hgms.org/Backbender'sGazetteIssues.html and directly from: http://www.hgms.org/BBG/Feb07.pdf One way of reaching new people, would be to write popular articles for your local Gem and Mineral Society about various topics related to meteorites, impactites, tektites, and so forth. These newsletters would be a good places to educate the public about meteorites and meteorwrongs. Best Regards, Paul H. 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
Well, Matt, I understand that there have been SOME larger pieces, that's why I chose the word virually when referring to the crumb-sized pieces. I'm not particularly looking for a larger piece of New Orleans, I was just expressing curiosity at its evolution, from fall to collector market. Let me try it again. How about this: Compared to other recent, similar-TKW falls, it seems like a much higher percentage of the material available to collectors is crumb-sized. OK? B From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Yankewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:36:44 -0700 It is not true...therre have been a few 500+g pieces, many 100g, and alot of 20g+. matt Bruce Yankewitz wrote: Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized pieces. Anyone know why this is so? Bruce _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1FORM=MGAC01 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
Rumor has it the owner is missing since Katrina - and so is the main mass. Best wishes, Michael on 3/10/07 3:12 PM, Bruce Yankewitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Matt, I understand that there have been SOME larger pieces, that's why I chose the word virually when referring to the crumb-sized pieces. I'm not particularly looking for a larger piece of New Orleans, I was just expressing curiosity at its evolution, from fall to collector market. Let me try it again. How about this: Compared to other recent, similar-TKW falls, it seems like a much higher percentage of the material available to collectors is crumb-sized. OK? B From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Yankewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:36:44 -0700 It is not true...therre have been a few 500+g pieces, many 100g, and alot of 20g+. matt Bruce Yankewitz wrote: Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized pieces. Anyone know why this is so? Bruce _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1FORM=MGAC01 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses. - Ziggy - in a comic strip by Tom Wilson -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] A new way to Display My Collection
My collection of meteorite spheres is growing and the way I displayed them, mounted in calipers, was getting a bit too busy. So I decided to make a simple pedestal system and this is what I can up with: http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Collection.jpg Basically I covered 7/8 tubing in felt, drill a series of holes in the main display platform and then pressed the tubes into the holes. I have room to display a total of 11 spheres and once all the holes are filled up I can always drill more in between the current holes and use shorter pedestals. Here is the way it used to look. http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Collection1.jpg I think it's a vast improvement But now I have 11 calipers available for sale, so if you're looking for one or a couple send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
The owner of the main mass of News Orleans is a long time collector and dealer of meteorites and fossils from a small town in the suburbs of New Orleans. He and his wife have a shop and a museum and they intend to keep the main mass of the New Orleans intact for their museum collection. They have been selling the fragments that were broken from the main piece on impact in a consignment arrangement with Blaine Reed. There has been a lot of material sold from that event. Blaine had a number of fragments for sale in his room in Tucson this year, some small and some large. The owners and theirchildrenare just fine as is the main mass. They attend the Tucson show each year and were there this year with their two sons. Cheers, Edwin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids?
But the space telescope is estimated to cost $1.1 billion for 15 years of operation Hmm, what does cost a F-22 and a B2 Spirit? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ron Baalke Gesendet: Freitag, 9. März 2007 22:50 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids? http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11356-could-venus-watch-for-earthbou nd-asteroids.html Could Venus watch for Earth-bound asteroids? David L Chandler New Scientist 09 March 2007 A dedicated space-based telescope is needed to achieve a congressionally mandated goal of discovering 90% of all near-Earth asteroids down to a size of 140 metres by the year 2020, says a report NASA sent to the US Congress on Thursday. Asteroids of that size are large enough to destroy a major city or region if they strike the planet - but NASA says it does not have the money to pay for the project. The study says Venus is the best place for the telescope. That is because space rocks within Earth's orbit - where Venus lies - are most likely to be lost in the Sun's glare, potentially catching astronomers off guard. The telescope could be placed either behind or ahead of Venus in its orbit by about 60° - the stable Lagrange points, known as L4 or L5, where the gravity of the Sun and Venus are in balance. There are quite a few [objects] that are interior to Earth's orbit, NASA's Lindley Johnson told New Scientist. Those are really hard to detect [from Earth]; the opportunities to see them are very limited. From the orbit of Venus, however, you're always looking away from the Sun, always looking out, he says. And, of course, you can observe 24 hours a day - you don't have to worry about night and day. Even from Earth orbit, a telescope's view of any given part of the sky is blocked about half the time by the Earth itself. In addition, because Venus orbits the Sun in about two-thirds the time the Earth does, a telescope in that orbit would catch up with any near-Earth asteroids in their orbits more frequently than Earth does, offering more opportunities for discovery. You're able to sample that population more rapidly in the same amount of time, Johnson says. Missed deadline An infrared telescope would be more effective than one that studies visible light, because asteroids reflect sunlight more strongly at infrared wavelengths. The background sky is also much less bright in the infrared, providing better contrast for discovering even small, faint asteroids. With the Venus-orbit IR telescope, NASA could exceed its goal by three years, finding 90% of the most dangerous space rocks by 2017. But the space telescope is estimated to cost $1.1 billion for 15 years of operation, and NASA says there is currently no money in its budget to pursue any of the search proposals it studied. That means it would take until at least 2026 to achieve its goal - and that is assuming a large telescope in Chile called the LSST (Large Synoptic Survey Telescope) is completed. But the LSST, which would be funded through the National Science Foundation, itself has not had final approval (see Unique wide-field telescope will make 'sky movies' http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn9200-unique-widefield-telescope-wil l-make-sky-movies.html). Without the LSST, as well, the goal would slip beyond 2030. Former Apollo astronaut Rusty Schweickart says NASA's analysis was a good examination of the options, and showed that the space option ... is most effective in dealing with the danger of an unexpected impact. But Schweickart says NASA failed to deliver on an additional analysis that Congress had asked for, which included an examination of the relative merits of different proposals for deflecting an asteroid found to be on a collision course with Earth. [NASA] did nothing, they declined to respond. That's pretty disappointing, Schweickart told New Scientist. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
Michael, What's the difference between this situation and the time not long ago when you felt the need to inform us of the death threats you were receiving? I agree with Mr. Gessler by the way. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:19:57 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory
If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. I confess I sometimes find flame-wars entertainingor certainly more entertaining than the endless handwringing about them.So my own solution is to delete the handwringingkind of like what a person could do with the flame-wars. From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED],Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:19:57 -0800 on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Rates near 39yr lows! $430K Loan for $1,399/mo - Paying Too Much? Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18226moid=7581 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My new sikhote-alin web site
Dear list members, Thought I would break in and share with you my new SA web site: http://www.sikhote-alin.org/ Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids?
Hi, Martin! The cost of a series production item includes on the cost of development and depends on how many copies you have made. Based on the current planned production of F-22 Raptors, the cost is $380 to $390 million apiece. Had the originally planned number of planes been built the cost would have been about $130 million each. However, it's never that simple. The follow-on F-35 Lightning II will use much of the technology developed for the F-22, but the F-35 will have a much lower cost per plane than the F-22 could ever have. Without that technological development, the cost of the F-35 would be much greater. The B-2 Spirit, built in the numbers presently contemplated, will cost $2,200 million per copy! Again, and to an even greater degree, the cost of developing the technology in the first is staggering. The actual material and man-hour manufacturing cost of building one B-2 bomber is about $120 million, one heck of a bargain. Conceived of in the 1970's, developed in the 1980's, then completely re-designed to change it from a high altitude penetrating bomber to a low altitude penetrating bomber (will you make up your mind?), it was first displayed about the instant the Cold War sublimated Instead of the 136 that were planned, even without a Cold War, we decided to settle for 75 and more recently our Defender and Decider, Mr. Bush, decided that twenty were plenty, which raises the cost/plane to about $2.2 billion a bump. It is now said to be fully operational, but I cannot find out exactly how many planes have been built. (Why are you following me and where is your warrant?) However, you may live to see more B-2's or at least B-2-lookalikes, as the design engineer in charge of the propulsion system was arrested on October 2005 for selling classified information to China and possibly other countries as well. Those B-2 copies would cost considerably less, I imagine, and have a different in-flight menu. So, one B-2 equals TWO space telescopes, but it takes about three F-22's to pay for one space telescope. Of course, IF the B-2 could fly to and destroy an incoming asteroid, it would be worth $22 billion, or $22 trillion --- name your price. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids? But the space telescope is estimated to cost $1.1 billion for 15 years of operation Hmm, what does cost a F-22 and a B2 Spirit? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ron Baalke Gesendet: Freitag, 9. März 2007 22:50 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Could Venus Watch For Earth-Bound Asteroids? http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn11356-could-venus-watch-for-earthbou nd-asteroids.html Could Venus watch for Earth-bound asteroids? David L Chandler New Scientist 09 March 2007 A dedicated space-based telescope is needed to achieve a congressionally mandated goal of discovering 90% of all near-Earth asteroids down to a size of 140 metres by the year 2020, says a report NASA sent to the US Congress on Thursday. Asteroids of that size are large enough to destroy a major city or region if they strike the planet - but NASA says it does not have the money to pay for the project. The study says Venus is the best place for the telescope. That is because space rocks within Earth's orbit - where Venus lies - are most likely to be lost in the Sun's glare, potentially catching astronomers off guard. The telescope could be placed either behind or ahead of Venus in its orbit by about 60° - the stable Lagrange points, known as L4 or L5, where the gravity of the Sun and Venus are in balance. There are quite a few [objects] that are interior to Earth's orbit, NASA's Lindley Johnson told New Scientist. Those are really hard to detect [from Earth]; the opportunities to see them are very limited. From the orbit of Venus, however, you're always looking away from the Sun, always looking out, he says. And, of course, you can observe 24 hours a day - you don't have to worry about night and day. Even from Earth orbit, a telescope's view of any given part of the sky is blocked about half the time by the Earth itself. In addition, because Venus orbits the Sun in about two-thirds the time the Earth does, a telescope in that orbit would catch up with any near-Earth asteroids in their orbits more frequently than Earth does, offering more opportunities for discovery. You're able to sample that population more rapidly in the same amount of time, Johnson says. Missed deadline An infrared telescope would be more effective than one that studies visible light, because asteroids reflect sunlight more strongly at infrared wavelengths. The background sky is also much less bright
Re: [meteorite-list] My new sikhote-alin web site
Do not pass go. Enter immediately into Favorites. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] My new sikhote-alin web site Dear list members, Thought I would break in and share with you my new SA web site: http://www.sikhote-alin.org/ Sincerely, Michael Johnson SPACEROCKSINC.COM http://www.spacerocksinc.com SIKHOTE-ALIN.ORG http://www.sikhote-alin.org BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD] Coming Soon! - The easiest way to find meteorites for sale!
Dear List, First we need to acknowledge that the idea for this project was thought up by Steve Arnold, 001, PMH. Just so there's no confusion... http://www.meteoriteadventures.com/meet.htm Steve wanted a way for the collector to quickly and easily find out who had what items for sale and created his FindMeteorites concept to achieve this goal. Thank you Steve! Now after close to a year and a half of thinking and coding, Jim and I are just about ready to open our new Meteorites for Sale section on The Meteorite Exchange. But before we open the site we are requesting the help of a couple of meteorite shopaholics. We need a couple of beta testers to test our code under the harsh real life conditions that exist during the quest to satisfy an addicts meteorite fix. For those of you reading this, if this sounds like it's for you then please contact me off list. - Thank you! Some of the new features include: - A search engine that searches dealer website inventories, their ebay auctions, and our meteorite classifieds. - Quickly see which Dealers have current ebay auctions running. - New enhanced Meteorite Dealer Listings that include the dealers ebay auctions. - A new interface to search and view the top 100 ebay auctions and buy it nows. - Our new Website Indexing Service which updates our search database with the dealers website inventory each hour 24/7. Stay tuned! Paul and Jim __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
Michael and List, I read ALL of Mike Farmer's posts. No one has done more to recover and bring to the market a wide range of meteorites for us to enjoy. Also, I think it's important for us to know when someone threatens another in the meteorite community, just as you informed us of a threat you received. I don't always agree with Mike but I respect his position in the meteorite world as I do yours and I will continue to read his posts. I think we will see some interesting ones in the next few days concerning some of his recent recoveries! My best to all, Thomas H. Webb --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: List members, this man is now making threats to my home and family.. Read this and tell me.. -- Dear Mike and all, Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it??? I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE pay attention: -- I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow. If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the list your opinion to this effect. - Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it. Sincerely, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007AGU Meeting
Hi, List, Thanks, Paul, for those links. If you're not familiar with the Carolina Bays, Listees, here's a page with links to every theory about them: http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/cbaymenu.html Some fascinating and non-fascinating things here. The list of logical connections that may mean nothing at all is very long. Was there a mammoth extinction event? Most diggers, bonemen, and that crowd say no, but on the other hand when's the last time you saw a mammoth? Why would a mild cooling spell extinct a cold-adapted mammal like the mammoth? Did the mammoths die out at once or over 1000 years? 2000 years? 4000 years? How fast is an event? How slow? With an ice age ending, how badly do you need an impact to explain extinctions? As far as that goes, how big an impact event do you need to explain an excess of frog ponds in the Carolinas? One of the presenters has advocated that the Bays formed by steam explosions from a thermal airburst event, formed out of beaver ponds, a particularly choice notion in view of the fact that one of the fauna extincted was the Giant Beaver! North America lost 5 species of American Horses, a few species of Western Camels, the North American llamas, two genera of Deer, two genera of Pronghorns, the Stag-Moose, Shrub-Oxen, Woodland Muskoxen, the Giant Beaver, the Shasta Ground Sloth and other Ground Sloths, Short-Faced Bears like the Cave Bear (big), Saber-toothed cats, the American Lion (bigger than the African Lion), the American Cheetah, the Dire Wolf, several species of Mammoth, the American Mastodont (Mammut americanum), the Giant Bison, and the Giant Peccary (the super Pig)! Altogether, in 50,000 years North America lost 33 genera of large mammals, and 15 genera in the period from 11,500 to 10,000 years ago. At least, we don't have to worry about the Bunyip (a Giant Killer Bunny Wabbit The Size of A Truck). The Diprotodon is Australia's problem... Worthy of note: the inclusion of Luann Becker, who I suspect has something to do with the newly uncovered evidence for ET impact at 12.9 ka including end-Clovis age sediments throughout North America with high levels of Iridium, magnetic [sic., probably magnetite] and carbon, spherules, glass-like carbon, fullerenes, and ET noble gas ratios often in association with carbonaceous black layers and succeeded by black mats with unusual biota. Particularly with those fullerenes! Firestone, who is an expert on isotopes (he wrote the book on them, literally; he is the Chief Editor of the Table of Isotopes, 8th Edition). I would not doubt anything he says... about isotopes. But he has advanced some utterly ridiculous explanations of his findings, such as interstellar comets formed in a supernova impacting at -- what was it? -- 10,000 miles per second? This naturally tends to make people dismiss the while thing. However, there is no reason why, as the world expert on isotopes, he would be any better at explaining how they got there than say, a Ph.D. in French Literature would be... or an Economist. Something happened. No one really knows what. It left traces. No one really knows whether they imply any other events or not. Whole genera of animals became extinct. No one knows if there's any connection. The list of what we don't know is much longer than the list of what we do. And if you're wondering what the Younger Dryas is... After the ice age started to end and the ice caps started to melt rapidly, they suddenly slowed down and almost stopped melting, then they began to rapidly melt again after the Younger Dryas. Obviously, a cooling episode... well, maybe. It can be explained by the fact that what was melting the ice caps was a rapid warming of the glacial climate by mid-level warm oceanic water flows to the poles. When the polar began to melt in earnest, the runoff of cold fresh water into polar seas slowed and almost stopped those warm flows. After that initial runoff, the warm currents resumed and the ice caps were doomed. No comets, impacts, nor any other exotic event is required by way of explanation. No cooling is needed, just a weakening of an ocean current, an oscillation in the warming process caused by the warming itself. Global warming -- ya gotta love it. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007AGU Meeting Dear Friends, Apparently, there is going to be some interesting papers at the 2007 Joint Assembly of the American Geophysical Union as there will be a session presenting evidence for an impact having occurred during Younger-Dyras times at the end of the last Ice Age. Below are links to representative abstracts: 1. Evidence for an Extraterrestrial Impact Event 12,900 years ago that
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
BOR-R-R-R-R-R-RING. NO MORE.. PROFESSIONALISM.REMEMBER THAT? Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:52:15 -0500 From: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi Mike, Mike, and List, The contents of Mike Farmer's post was obvious from the subject line, thereby easily deleted if that thread wasn't interesting to the listee. His post didn't bother me. Cheers, Pete No so easy if you get the digest - it's full of this effluence. Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
