[meteorite-list] new orleans fall

2007-03-11 Thread Dave Harris

Hi,
I received some of the very first stuff - picked up the next day in the
roadside by a friend of mine who is a pegmatist in the Uni of NO.  He sent
me about 35g and virtually all was in fragments.  It fell on my birthday!
The main mass went thru the roof of the Faucett's house. 

Personally I have no idea where these larger pieces came from as the
Faucetts's were not selling and the only stuff I saw for about 18 months was
material very very similar to what I had.  I sold a lot of my NO stash and
have about 7g left.
So I am bemused too about where all of these large fragments came from
because I do not recall anyone saying they'd found another large lump of NO
- as far as I knew there was the Faucett mass (which may be lost now since
Katrina - I don't know) and crumbs

Curiouser and curiouser

 
Dave
IMCA #0092
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread ken newton
Hi Bruce,
After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'), 
a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students 
collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence. 
Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments 
on ebay.
http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html

best,
ken newton

Bruce Yankewitz wrote:


 Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach 
 the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized 
 pieces. Anyone know why this is so?

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Bill
Ken,

Most of us know about the N.O. excursion. Point is, how reliable can the 
authenticty of street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and every crumb 
that's sold by a member of your org.? I have buckets of very nice crumbs from 
PF that I could market. Can I sell if I buy an imca number or do I need the 
crumbs authenticated. Any volunteers? My point being obvious, I hope.

Bill




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:44:34 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
 
 Hi Bruce,
 After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'),
 a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students
 collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence.
 Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments
 on ebay.
 http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html
 
 best,
 ken newton
 
 Bruce Yankewitz wrote:
 
 
 Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach
 the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized
 pieces. Anyone know why this is so?
 
 Bruce
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Norbert Classen
Bill,

Maybe you could do some research prior to posting such a comment?

First, IMCA is not selling meteorites (some IMCA members are), and Al
Falster is no IMCA member. Go and check our members list at www.imca.cc ...

Second, you can't buy an IMCA number - each applicant for IMCA membership
needs recommending members, and each application is thouroghly checked by
our Membership Committee and voted upon by the IMCA Board of Directors. 

We received about 1 application per day, during the first two months of this
year, and not even 20% of the applicants make the vote - so it's not just
about paying dues, it's about authenticity, and proper business practices. I
fear that a man without a last name (who's Bill anyway?) wouldn't even
master the first steps to IMCA membership.

And, answering your question: it surely would do no harm to have a scientist
look at your crumbs prior to selling them as PF, would it? It sounds like
you are not sure that these actually do represent the Real McCoy... In any
case, as an IMCA member you would have to grant the authenticity of each and
every specimen you sell, and it would be YOUR task to take care of the
proper steps to do so. My point being obvious, I hope ...

All the best,
Norbert Classen
Vice President IMCA Inc.
http://www.imca.cc/

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Ken,

Most of us know about the N.O. excursion. Point is, how reliable can the
authenticty of street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and every crumb
that's sold by a member of your org.? I have buckets of very nice crumbs
from PF that I could market. Can I sell if I buy an imca number or do I need
the crumbs authenticated. Any volunteers? My point being obvious, I hope.

Bill

 -Original Message-
 
 Hi Bruce,
 After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'),
 a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students
 collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence.
 Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments
 on ebay.
 http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html
 
 best,
 ken newton
 
 Bruce Yankewitz wrote:
 
 
 Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach
 the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized
 pieces. Anyone know why this is so?
 
 Bruce


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[meteorite-list] My new sikhote-alin web site

2007-03-11 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
Nice site.

Every time I see a big SA I wonder how one would look as a 50mm sphere   :)
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[meteorite-list] Nulles (Spain) meteorite

2007-03-11 Thread Pelé Pierre-Marie
Hello,

I'm desperately searching for information about the
trajectory and strewnfield of the Nulles meteorite
which fell in 1851 in Spain.

Does anyone have detailed information, old publication
about this ?

The only reference I found is Lithologia meteorica
from Profesor Joaquin Balcells, Barcelona, 1854

Many thanks,

Pierre-Marie Pele
www.meteor-center.com






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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Mr EMan
Point of information, the IMCA doesn't vouch for nor
authenticate meteorites--the SELLER does and, when you
get down to stats that is the pretty much the way for
98% of ebay auctions.

Bill, Do I detect from your snide wording that no one
will nominate you for membership?

Elton

--- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... Point is, how reliable can the authenticty of
street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and
every crumb that's sold by a member of your org.? I
have buckets of very nice crumbs from PF that I could
market. Can I sell if I buy an IMCA number or do I
need the crumbs authenticated. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Impact Origin of Carolina Bays Argued For at 2007AGU Meeting

2007-03-11 Thread Paul

Sterling K. Webb wrote on Sun March 11, 2007

Hi, List,

Thanks, Paul, for those links.

You and the list might be interested to know that 
there is a competing session Carolina Bays. A more 
mainstream point of view on their formation will be 
given at the Geological Society of America Southeastern 
Section-56th Annual Meeting (29-30 March 2007) in a 
session titled S6. Geology and Ecology of Carolina 
Bays at:

http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2007SE/finalprogram/session_18800.htm

The paper in this session include 1. The Sedimentology 
and Ages of Carolina Bays Sand Rims by Dr. Ivestor at:

http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2007SE/finalprogram/abstract_119179.htm

This abstract states in part:

Water-lain pebbles intercalated with eolian sands indicate
that these are typical shoreline deposits resulting from
fluctuations in water level.

At individual bays where concentric rims occur, dating has
established that rims are progressively younger toward the center
of the bay, reflecting a regressive sequence and confirming that
the bays are not single-event features but evolve as a result of
processes active episodically over a long period of time. Active
shorelines and associated eolian deposition occurred during
marine isotope stage (MIS) 2 to late MIS 3 (~12 to 50 ka), MIS 4
to very late MIS 5 (60-80 ka), and late MIS 6 (120 to 140 ka)
based on a cumulative total of 45 OSL dates. These age ranges
also correspond with the ages of other eolian landforms in the
Coastal Plain, including sand sheets and dunefields, and suggest
a climatic threshold was crossed during the transition toward
glacial stadials, initiating both bay and dune activity. 

Another abstract is Geomorphic History of th Carolina Bays 
by RAy Kaczorowski at:

http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2007SE/finalprogram/abstract_118906.htm

Needless to say, this activity will be quite fun to watch as
all of these ideas are sorted out. 

Best Regards,

Paul H.


 

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[meteorite-list] NO fall

2007-03-11 Thread Dave Harris

FYI... here is a link to the analysis of the NO that I received from Al

http://tinyurl.com/2l4dyf




 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread ken newton
Bill, Norbert, Dave, and All,
Sorry for this duplicate, but the first hasn't turn up on the list yet.

Hi Bill,
I won't add to the points covered by Norbert.

When I first saw one of Al's sale, I thought it was fake.
I emailed 'flabster' via eBay and asked how he had
acquired the fragments.  'Flabster' simply replied, easy, walking
along the streets with a magnet in a plastic container
and frequently removing the pieces, besides loads of
car pieces! Best wishes, Al.

Not knowing who he was or understanding that fragments
had surrounded the residence, I issue a warning to other IMCA
members about the auction. Dave Harris who knew Al quickly
corrected my misconceptions. I have since been in contact
with the very kind, reputable Al Falster and I have no reason
to doubt his expertise.  

Bill if you check the link you'll find detailed results of
samples tested.  If you are not confident of an auction for any
reason, don't bid.  However, if you know of fragments being
sold that are not genuine, you need contact the seller. If the
seller is an IMCA member and you cannot obtain satisfaction,
you can file a compliant via the web site. IMCA will contact you
and the member. 

And you would probably get much higher bids if your PF fragments
were accompanied with written authentication by Paul Sipiera
or the like. Not a bad idea.

Best,
Ken Newton


 

Bill wrote:

Ken,

Most of us know about the N.O. excursion. Point is, how reliable can the 
authenticty of street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and every crumb 
that's sold by a member of your org.? I have buckets of very nice crumbs from 
PF that I could market. Can I sell if I buy an imca number or do I need the 
crumbs authenticated. Any volunteers? My point being obvious, I hope.

Bill




  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:44:34 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

Hi Bruce,
After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'),
a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students
collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence.
Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments
on ebay.
http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html

best,
ken newton

Bruce Yankewitz wrote:



Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach
the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized
pieces. Anyone know why this is so?

Bruce

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite-Times for March is now up!

2007-03-11 Thread Paul Harris
Hello Everyone!

Meteorite-Times for March is now up.
http://www.meteorite-times.com

We'd like to welcome Ruben Garcia to the Meteorite-Times team who will have
a new Meteorite Hunting QA article each month.

We have posted some addition Tucson photos by Keith Vazquez so have a look.

And again THANK YOU you to all the writers who take time out of their 
busy lives to write these articles!!

Enjoy!

Paul and Jim

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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory

2007-03-11 Thread Michael Farmer
John, some of us are in the middle of everything
because we are the ones bringing home the bacon, or
meteorites so to speak. By the way, the post was not
private, since he posted the same thing to the list,
minus the threat. 
I will remind you next time you cross the line on the
list, and you have done it before John. Those who live
in glass houses

Michael Farmer

--- JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Michael Blood and List,
 Like you, I find it annoying that a few ( one in
 this case) list 
 members can't follow basic Met.List rules, one of
 which is to refrain 
 from posting private e-mails.  I do agree that it's
 true that Mr. 
 Gregory is way out of line making the threats that
 he has recently. 
 However, we all saw a pretty good example of his
 demeanor and 
 threatening language recently so we probably don't
 need more 
 confirmation from Farmer.  You would think that
 after nearly a decade 
 of being smack in the middle of nearly every ego war
 and mud slinging 
 event that has been on the Meteorite List that Mike
 would have 
 developed the hide of a rhino and be able to dismiss
 threats without 
 a second thought.
 
 Don't want to hear,
 
 John
 
 
 
 At 01:19 PM 3/10/2007, Michael L Blood wrote:
 on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   List members, this man is now making threats to
 my
   home and family.. Read this and tell
 me..
 --
 Dear Mike and all,
  Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO
 ONE on the list wanted
 to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this
 fellow have with
 one another? If you knew that would you then spare
 us hearing about it???
  I experience you as a fairly intelligent
 fellow, so, please, PLEASE
 pay attention:
 
 --
  I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very
 carefully and decide
 if they want to hear about this dispute between
 Mike and this fellow.
 If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it,
 please post to the
 list your opinion to this effect.

 -
  Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you
 could leave your emotions
 in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample
 intelligence and keep
 any communications with this fellow strictly
 between you and him, as
 clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you
 will have heard for
 yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to
 hear about it.
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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory

2007-03-11 Thread Michael Farmer
This from the same Michael Blood who thought that the
list wanted to hear about threats from some Nigerian
scammer? So Michael, we all need to know about your
Nigerian scam emails, and their threats against you
(and 300 million other people in the same email)
something that has been going on since the internet
was invented, but I should not air a serious threat by
another LIST MEMBER? Perhaps Michael, it is you who
does not want to read it, I did not know that you
spoke for the list. From the emails I have recieved,
it seems some people are interested when one list
member threatens another. Perhaps you can learn to
delete anything from me since my posts annoy you. I
will not answer another post from you, so delete my
email and website address as well. Block my email and
that will spare you from reading about my exploits,
new meteorites, and threats of robbery of my home. 
   I am just a little surprised that you know of the
wishes of every list member. Is there something in
that bong you are smoking which gives you those
powers?
Thanks 
Michael Farmer
 --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   List members, this man is now making threats to
 my
   home and family.. Read this and tell
  me..
  --
  Dear Mike and all,
  Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO
 ONE
  on the list wanted
  to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this
  fellow have with
  one another? If you knew that would you then spare
  us hearing about it???
  I experience you as a fairly intelligent
  fellow, so, please, PLEASE
  pay attention: 
 
  --
  I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very
  carefully and decide
  if they want to hear about this dispute between
 Mike
  and this fellow.
  If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it,
  please post to the
  list your opinion to this effect.

  -
  Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you
 could
  leave your emotions
  in check for just a moment, fall back on your
 ample
  intelligence and keep
  any communications with this fellow strictly
 between
  you and him, as
  clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you
  will have heard for
  yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to
  hear about it.
  Sincerely, Michael

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[meteorite-list] HELP ! and, Who's still got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Kevin Forbes

I have attempted to log into my account at meteorite central in order to 
change my email settings to receive a daily digest instead of individual 
emails, as I am finding myself drowning in a flood into my inbox, along with 
all the other floods.

When I click on your account, on the meteorite central page, nothing 
happens.

??

Any help would be appreciated.

Oh, bye the way, who still has the first meteorite they ever found?
I do, a Henbury Iron found in December 1989. It looks like a ducks foot.
Kevin, VK3UKF.

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Re: [meteorite-list] HELP ! and, Who's still got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Gary K. Foote
I have yet to find one but I do have the first one I acquired - a 12.3g CD with 
magnetite coating.

http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/canyondiablo.html

Gary

 who still has the first meteorite they ever found?
 I do, a Henbury Iron found in December 1989. It looks like a ducks foot.
 Kevin, VK3UKF.


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Re: [meteorite-list] HELP ! and, Who's still got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Jack Schrader
I still have the first meteorite I found.  A 263 gram Gold Basin that I
found in 1997.  You never give the first one up!  Jack

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary K.
Foote
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 1:09 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] HELP ! and,Who's still got their first
meteorite?

I have yet to find one but I do have the first one I acquired - a 12.3g CD
with 
magnetite coating.

http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/canyondiablo.html

Gary

 who still has the first meteorite they ever found?
 I do, a Henbury Iron found in December 1989. It looks like a ducks foot.
 Kevin, VK3UKF.


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[meteorite-list] AD - Great GIBEON individuals with natural patina for sale!

2007-03-11 Thread Peter Marmet
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I can offer them at a very good price. Please have a look:

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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory

2007-03-11 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi Mike,
No - no bong for over 35 years
Clearly I was wrong - people DO want to hear about it. So,
go for it. 
Pray for Proud Tom!
Best wishes, Michael

on 3/11/07 11:10 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This from the same Michael Blood who thought that the
 list wanted to hear about threats from some Nigerian
 scammer? So Michael, we all need to know about your
 Nigerian scam emails, and their threats against you
 (and 300 million other people in the same email)
 something that has been going on since the internet
 was invented, but I should not air a serious threat by
 another LIST MEMBER? Perhaps Michael, it is you who
 does not want to read it, I did not know that you
 spoke for the list. From the emails I have recieved,
 it seems some people are interested when one list
 member threatens another. Perhaps you can learn to
 delete anything from me since my posts annoy you. I
 will not answer another post from you, so delete my
 email and website address as well. Block my email and
 that will spare you from reading about my exploits,
 new meteorites, and threats of robbery of my home.
  I am just a little surprised that you know of the
 wishes of every list member. Is there something in
 that bong you are smoking which gives you those
 powers?
 Thanks 
 Michael Farmer
 --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List members, this man is now making threats to
 my
 home and family.. Read this and tell
 me..
 --
 Dear Mike and all,
 Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO
 ONE
 on the list wanted
 to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this
 fellow have with
 one another? If you knew that would you then spare
 us hearing about it???
 I experience you as a fairly intelligent
 fellow, so, please, PLEASE
 pay attention: 

 --
 I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very
 carefully and decide
 if they want to hear about this dispute between
 Mike
 and this fellow.
 If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it,
 please post to the
 list your opinion to this effect.

 -
 Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you
 could
 leave your emotions
 in check for just a moment, fall back on your
 ample
 intelligence and keep
 any communications with this fellow strictly
 between
 you and him, as
 clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you
 will have heard for
 yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to
 hear about it.
 Sincerely, Michael
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Bill
Mr. Eman,

It's always so interesting how differently the same words can be interpreted.

I know that IMCA doesn't offer authentication blah, blah, blah.

I know how an auction works. I've been buying and selling all my like.

I was an IMCA member. I dropped my membership when dues became mandatory.

Do I detect a snide tenor to the wording of your message?

Bill



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:46:34 -0700 (PDT)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
 
 Point of information, the IMCA doesn't vouch for nor
 authenticate meteorites--the SELLER does and, when you
 get down to stats that is the pretty much the way for
 98% of ebay auctions.
 
 Bill, Do I detect from your snide wording that no one
 will nominate you for membership?
 
 Elton
 
 --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... Point is, how reliable can the authenticty of
 street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and
 every crumb that's sold by a member of your org.? I
 have buckets of very nice crumbs from PF that I could
 market. Can I sell if I buy an IMCA number or do I
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[meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all,
I'm sure I am atypical. For years I sold, traded,
lost, or gave away just about every meteorite I ever
found. It wasn't till about a year or two ago that I
actually started collecting them. Even now I only hold
on to the very best of what I find. I really regret
selling some meteorites though, as some of my very
best finds are in other peoples collections.


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Phoenix, Arizona
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Bill
Norbert,

What's wrong with this picture?

Bill



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:37:14 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
 
 Bill,
 
 Maybe you could do some research prior to posting such a comment?
 
 First, IMCA is not selling meteorites (some IMCA members are), and Al
 Falster is no IMCA member. Go and check our members list at www.imca.cc
 ...
 
 Second, you can't buy an IMCA number - each applicant for IMCA
 membership
 needs recommending members, and each application is thouroghly checked by
 our Membership Committee and voted upon by the IMCA Board of Directors.
 
 We received about 1 application per day, during the first two months of
 this
 year, and not even 20% of the applicants make the vote - so it's not just
 about paying dues, it's about authenticity, and proper business
 practices. I
 fear that a man without a last name (who's Bill anyway?) wouldn't even
 master the first steps to IMCA membership.
 
 And, answering your question: it surely would do no harm to have a
 scientist
 look at your crumbs prior to selling them as PF, would it? It sounds like
 you are not sure that these actually do represent the Real McCoy... In
 any
 case, as an IMCA member you would have to grant the authenticity of each
 and
 every specimen you sell, and it would be YOUR task to take care of the
 proper steps to do so. My point being obvious, I hope ...
 
 All the best,
 Norbert Classen
 Vice President IMCA Inc.
 http://www.imca.cc/
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 
 Ken,
 
 Most of us know about the N.O. excursion. Point is, how reliable can the
 authenticty of street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and every
 crumb
 that's sold by a member of your org.? I have buckets of very nice crumbs
 from PF that I could market. Can I sell if I buy an imca number or do I
 need
 the crumbs authenticated. Any volunteers? My point being obvious, I hope.
 
 Bill
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Hi Bruce,
 After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'),
 a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students
 collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence.
 Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments
 on ebay.
 http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html
 
 best,
 ken newton
 
 Bruce Yankewitz wrote:
 
 
 Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach
 the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized
 pieces. Anyone know why this is so?
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Bill




Ken,

Thanks forYOUR reply. In regard to street crumbs and given the track record of geologists lately, I'd be hesitant to purchase any of that N.O. rubbish. 

I've yet to sell any of the PF crumbs I've accumulated and I don't need Paul Sipiera to recognize a substantial micro.

A sample of what often amounts to little more than oversized dust particles may prove to be meteoric but that doesn't make the whole bucket good and it doesn't necessarily mean it's allpart of the same fall.

Bill



-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:11:05 -0500To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

Hi Bill,I won't add to the points covered by Norbert. When I first saw one of Al's sale, I thought it was fake.I emailed 'flabster' via eBay and asked how he hadacquired the fragments. He simply replied, "easy, walkingalong the streets with a magnet in a plastic container and frequently removing the pieces, besides loads ofcar pieces! Best wishes, Al".Not knowing who he was or understanding that fragmentshad surrounded the residence, I issue a warning to other IMCAmembers about the auction. Dave Harris who knew Al quicklycorrected my misconceptions. I have since been in contactwith the very kind, reputable Al Falster and I have no reasonto doubt his expertise.Bill if you check the link you'll find detailed results ofsamples tested. If you are not confident of an auction for anyreason, don't bid. However, if you know of fragments beingsold that are not genuine, you need contact the seller. If theseller is an IMCA member and you cannot obtain satisfaction,you can file a compliant via the web site. IMCA will contact youand the member. And you would probably get much higher bids if your PF fragmentswere accompanied with written authentication by Paul Sipieraor the like. Not a bad idea.Best,Ken NewtonBill wrote:
Ken,

Most of us know about the N.O. excursion. Point is, how reliable can the authenticty of street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and every crumb that's sold by a member of your org.? I have buckets of very nice crumbs from PF that I could market. Can I sell if I buy an imca number or do I need the crumbs authenticated. Any volunteers? My point being obvious, I hope.

Bill




  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:44:34 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

Hi Bruce,
After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'),
a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students
collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence.
Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments
on ebay.
http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html

best,
ken newton

Bruce Yankewitz wrote:


Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach
the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized
pieces. Anyone know why this is so?

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[meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Bill
My first message was also scrubbed

Ken,   

Thanks for YOUR reply. In regard to street crumbs and given the track record of
geologists lately, I'd be hesitant to purchase any of that N.O. rubbish.

I've yet to sell any of the PF crumbs I've accumulated and I don't need Paul 
Sipiera to recognize a substantial micro.   

A sample of what often amounts to little more than oversized dust particles may 
prove to be meteoric but that doesn't make the whole bucket good and it
doesn't necessarily mean it's all part of the same fall.

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[meteorite-list] OT - if you're not P. Herrmann please delete - returned emails

2007-03-11 Thread Peter Marmet
Hello,

I sent four e-mails to two different e-mail addresses but all the e- 
mails were returned.

Regards, Peter

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Norbert Classen
Bill,

Is this a rhetoric question?

Norbert

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

Norbert,

What's wrong with this picture?

Bill

 -Original Message-
 
 Bill,
 
 Maybe you could do some research prior to posting such a comment?
 
 First, IMCA is not selling meteorites (some IMCA members are), and Al
 Falster is no IMCA member. Go and check our members list at www.imca.cc
 ...
 
 Second, you can't buy an IMCA number - each applicant for IMCA
 membership
 needs recommending members, and each application is thouroghly checked by
 our Membership Committee and voted upon by the IMCA Board of Directors.
 
 We received about 1 application per day, during the first two months of
 this
 year, and not even 20% of the applicants make the vote - so it's not just
 about paying dues, it's about authenticity, and proper business
 practices. I
 fear that a man without a last name (who's Bill anyway?) wouldn't even
 master the first steps to IMCA membership.
 
 And, answering your question: it surely would do no harm to have a
 scientist
 look at your crumbs prior to selling them as PF, would it? It sounds like
 you are not sure that these actually do represent the Real McCoy... In
 any
 case, as an IMCA member you would have to grant the authenticity of each
 and
 every specimen you sell, and it would be YOUR task to take care of the
 proper steps to do so. My point being obvious, I hope ...
 
 All the best,
 Norbert Classen
 Vice President IMCA Inc.
 http://www.imca.cc/
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 
 Ken,
 
 Most of us know about the N.O. excursion. Point is, how reliable can the
 authenticty of street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and every
 crumb
 that's sold by a member of your org.? I have buckets of very nice crumbs
 from PF that I could market. Can I sell if I buy an imca number or do I
 need
 the crumbs authenticated. Any volunteers? My point being obvious, I hope.
 
 Bill
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Hi Bruce,
 After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'),
 a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students
 collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence.
 Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments
 on ebay.
 http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html
 
 best,
 ken newton
 
 Bruce Yankewitz wrote:
 
 
 Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach
 the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized
 pieces. Anyone know why this is so?
 
 Bruce


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[meteorite-list] AD: OVER 200 NWA METEORITES ENDING NOW ON EBAY

2007-03-11 Thread dean bessey
Last sunday I loaded over 200 NWA meteorite on ebay.
Over two dozen including one over a kilo was started
at only a penny.
They have now begun ending and will all end over the
next few hours. Mostly under 10 cents a gram so a
great opportunity to get some NWA meteorites cheap.
Quite a few CV3, mesosiderites and zagora included in
the listings also
See my ebay id AMUNRE
Severeal hundred meteorites in my ebay store also.
http://stores.ebay.com/AMUNRE-COLLECTIBLES-AND-GEMSTONES_Meteorites_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ4QQftidZ2QQtZkm
Sincerely
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Great GIBEON individuals with natural patinafor sale!

2007-03-11 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Hi Peter,

comparing the big Gibeon with Giacometti you probably mean .

http://www.artnet.de/Images/magazine/news/weidle/weidle10-05-05-7.jpg

?

;-)

Best, Matthias


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Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:45 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Great GIBEON individuals with natural 
patinafor sale!


 Hello All,

 I recently acquired some great GIBEON individuals from an old Swiss
 collector.
 I can offer them at a very good price. Please have a look:

 http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id7.html

 Furthermore I have a wonderful Millbillillie individual for sale on
 ebay right now:

 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpema9

 Thank you!

 Peter

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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory

2007-03-11 Thread dean bessey
While technically two rules have been violated
(Posting personal messages and attacks) the content in
my opinion more than justifies it.
After all, if there is somebody who is going to make
an effort to physically hard somebody who goes
meteorite hunting or somehow hamper a legitimate
meteorite search a lot of people would be interested
and it is certainly meteorite related. I for one would
like to know what certain people is capable of doing.
Wither this is getting the mafia after you when
searching allende in mexico, hiring police to cause
one trouble in morocco, setting people up with the
government to get arrested in oman ect, I would like
to know so as to avoid contact with these people and
to take any necessary action should I decide to take
part in these search activities.
You could I guess argue that this whole topic is not
meteorite related since there are no meteorites except
in one mad mans delusions, but given that meteorites
and threats are in the same thread I am glad that I
have as many of the details as possible of the
situation. After all, I have been to arequipa peru
dozens of times (And I actually had the crater in
question investigated - although I never posted
anything to the list concerning my investigation
since there are obviously no meteorites in a bomb
crater that has volcanic basalt and scrapnel scattered
around it) but I do know from mikes email that I
wouldent try and talk to the mad man of arequipa if I
go to arequipa again. When he was a new misinformed
meteorite lover you might want to talk to somebody and
maybe explain things about meteorites to them. A
potentially violent criminal who wont listen to comen
sense about meteorites is a totally different matter
altogether.
I say there was nothing wrong with mikes posting and
it is informative to at least some members. The people
who are not interested of course wont read my email
since they have been deleting emails from this thread
long ago. People with an interest will read it.
Sincerely
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Re: [meteorite-list] HELP ! and, Who's still got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Jerry A. Wallace
Hi Kevin, List,

That brings to mind a fond memory.

It was in the late winter of '57 and the sun was barely beginning its 
work day
in West Texas by starting to illuminate the landscape through the cold, 
gray,
dismal, misty, low overcast morning.  I was with my mineralogical mentor
on yet another trip to raid the agate beds at Marfa, Texas.

I was in the seventh grade at that time, so I was probably still about 
13, and
an eager learner about anything mineralogical. My good friend, Mr. V. C.
Wiggins (a former mayor of Odessa in the '30's) had promised me for several
months that he would take me to the Odessa meteorite crater some day, and
this was the day.

Mr. Wiggins at that time had the one and only rock shop in Odessa and it
was conveniently located only a half block from the Junior High School I
attended. Needless to say, most of my brown bag lunches were eaten in his
shop. Then, too, he had to push me out the door in the evenings so he could
close and go home. He was a fine gentleman that I will always miss.

We bounced down the narrow fence line dirt road for miles in Mr. Wiggins
old '51 Buick until we finally arrived at what appeared to be a large muddy
hump in the otherwise flat landscape. He parked with his headlights aimed at
the geological anomaly and proudly exclaimed, That's it!  I'm not sure 
what
I was expecting, but I do recall being sorely disappointed in the sight. 
That's
just another example of reality rarely meeting expectations.

But what the heck, I was thrilled to be there. I took off at a dead run 
up the
muddy slope, promptly slipped and found myself rolling back down the muddy
slope. I'm sure Mr. Wiggins was both amused and somewhat wary at the
thought of me getting back into his Buick as a mud blob. We worked that out
later with old newspapers from his trunk.

Once inside the floor of the crater, I was advised about more of the 
crater's
history and given a mental picture of what I should be looking for. In the
excitement of finally being there, I had forgotten to bring my rock pick or
flashlight from the car. So I took off across the crater floor kicking 
at muddy
lumps. All but one of those lumps turned out to be caliche. This one 
piece that
wasn't caliche I took over to Mr.Wiggins for identification.  It was 
about seven
inches long by three inches wide with tapered ends. Turns out that it 
was indeed
a part of the meteorite. A very rusty, crumbly part of the old 
meteorite, but it was
mine.

I then moved to the southern side of the crater and began clawing away at it
with a broken branch of old mesquite. After sifting through the muck with my
cold fingers I found a small black piece of something that obviously 
wasn't the
prevalent caliche. Another fast run over to the expert and I got the 
good news
that this was a keeper. I turned to resume my muckraking for more keepers
but was cut short by the order to return to the Buick so we could get on 
with
the business of the day which was to extract as much of that fine Marfa 
agate
as humanly possible and still get back to Odessa without the expense of 
spending
the night on the road somewhere.

As was typical of our agate hunting trips, despite our best intentions 
of leaving
the hunting area earlier so as to get home earlier, we left well after 
dark for the
three hour trip back to Odessa. We bounced along with a trunk and rear 
floorboard
full of the prized agate, and my two pieces of the Odessa meteorite. As 
usual, the
headlights of the Buick were pointlessly pointed towards the stars. That 
always made
our trips more exciting by only having a faint glow of light on the highway.

So, to keep this short (HA), yes, I still have my first pieces of the 
fabulous Odessa
meteorite. Wouldn't trade them for Mr. Arnold's new Brenham. Well, maybe 
the
shale piece.

The solid piece that I recovered weighed in at 2.1g. Never weighed the 
rust. I surely
had one of the prized specimens that Prof. Ninninger and the earlier 
hunters missed.

The crater is now a part of the Texas State Parks system and hunting at 
the crater site
itself and the surrounding ranch land has been prohibited. Glad I was 
there in the good
old days. The crater has been turned into a very tourist friendly place 
now and includes
an exceptionally fine visitor center with heating, air conditioning and 
indoor plumbing, but
you still need to be cautious of the rattlesnakes and vicious 
jackrabbits when in the crater
or thereabouts. There is now a modern paved road to the crater with only 
one cattle guard
to bounce over. The visitor's center has a great collection of museum 
quality specimens
of meteorites from around the world. Come take a look. You're guaranteed 
to enjoy the
experience or your money back. Hurry while it's still free.

For a bit of the history, current information, and a look at the modern 
day, cleaned up version
of the Odessa Crater please go to:

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Re: [meteorite-list] Slightly OT - Great GIBEONS for sale!

2007-03-11 Thread Peter Marmet
Direct Hit, Matthias!

Giacometti is - together with Jean Tinguely - the most famous Swiss  
sculptor:-)!

Best regards,
Peter



Matthias Bärmann wrote:

 Hi Peter,

 comparing the big Gibeon with Giacometti you probably mean .

 http://www.artnet.de/Images/magazine/news/weidle/weidle10-05-05-7.jpg

 ?

 ;-)

 Best, Matthias


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 Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 8:45 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - Great GIBEON individuals with natural
 patinafor sale!



 Hello All,

 I recently acquired some great GIBEON individuals from an old Swiss
 collector.
 I can offer them at a very good price. Please have a look:

 http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id7.html

 Furthermore I have a wonderful Millbillillie individual for sale on
 ebay right now:

 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpema9

 Thank you!

 Peter

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Re: [meteorite-list] HELP ! and, Who's still got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Bill
When a meteorite fell hereabouts, I spent a few hours googling and was out the 
door. I picked up everything I saw. Not only do I have the first meteorite I 
found, I still have all the first suspect rocks.

I mounted them all on a board, in a row, in the fashion of those depictions of 
evolution from ape to man starting from wrongest to rite.

Bill

 

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 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] HELP ! and, Who's still got their first
 meteorite?
 
 I have yet to find one but I do have the first one I acquired - a 12.3g
 CD with
 magnetite coating.
 
 http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/canyondiablo.html
 
 Gary
 
 who still has the first meteorite they ever found?
 I do, a Henbury Iron found in December 1989. It looks like a ducks foot.
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[meteorite-list] OT ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated

2007-03-11 Thread Bill
Gary,

What the heck is that?

Bill
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated

2007-03-11 Thread Gary K. Foote
Bill,

If you're asking me I haven't the foggiest.  You got it from my email address?

Gary

 Gary,
 
 What the heck is that?
 
 Bill
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Re: [meteorite-list] Who's got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Michael Murray
Hello List,

I do -- barely.  I found a very small (olivine bronzite most likely)  
chondrite about 4-1/2 yrs ago.  Nice little (very little) stone with  
fusion crust visible on most of it.  I only had a 10x loupe at the  
time and couldn't really see it as good as I was wanting to, so I  
bought a cheap 20x loupe.  The body of the loupe was magnetic (don't  
ever recommend that type).  I put the small meteorite on a magnet and  
then attempted to get my first up close look at the stone.  The  
moment the loupe got close to the magnet, the two snapped together,  
shearing/crushing the little stone in half.  I looked the room over  
for a good two hours trying to find the part that was missing.  No  
luck.  The impact must have pulverized it or when it landed it went  
into something in the room that I failed to look in.  Lesson learned  
-- threw that loupe away.  For the record though, none of my little  
suspect stones have been certified.

To Ruben, I admire that you were able to let go of your meteorites  
like that and let others share in them. That was way cool!

Michael Murray
micro hunter of southwest Colorado

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated

2007-03-11 Thread dean bessey
When I posted my ad this morning about 200 meteorites
ending on ebay below is the similar message that I
got:
Not sure what is going on but it is either some sort
of virus or some server is malfunctioning. I got a
copy of my ad posting so I dont think anything is
actually getting blocked
Sincerely
DEAN
___
___
Action Taken:
The message was blocked because of its subject.

To:
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

From:
dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent:
-74687104,29844523

Subject:
[meteorite-list] AD: OVER 200 NWA METEORITES ENDING
NOW ON EBAY

Attachment Details:-

Attachment Name: N/A
File: Infected.msg
Infected? No
Repaired? No
Blocked? Yes
Deleted? No
Virus Name: 


 

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated

2007-03-11 Thread Gary K. Foote
Bill, Dean and list,

I use Nortons and it is up to date.  If my puter is infected I will unsubscribe 
until I get things straightened out.  Anyone else get this message from my 
address?

BTW - I got both Bill's and Dean's posts to the list.  SOMEthing is causing 
this 
'backlash'.  

Gary

 When I posted my ad this morning about 200 meteorites
 ending on ebay below is the similar message that I
 got:
 Not sure what is going on but it is either some sort
 of virus or some server is malfunctioning. I got a
 copy of my ad posting so I dont think anything is
 actually getting blocked
 Sincerely
 DEAN
 ___
 ___
 Action Taken:
 The message was blocked because of its subject.
 
 To:
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 
 From:
 dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sent:
 -74687104,29844523
 
 Subject:
 [meteorite-list] AD: OVER 200 NWA METEORITES ENDING
 NOW ON EBAY
 
 Attachment Details:-
 
 Attachment Name: N/A
 File: Infected.msg
 Infected? No
 Repaired? No
 Blocked? Yes
 Deleted? No
 Virus Name: 
 
 
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated

2007-03-11 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thanks Tom,

I'm running a comprehensive system scan right now so soon I shall know if I've 
got 
a 'bug' or not.  Did you receive the same 'blocked message' that Bill and Dean 
got?

Gary

-- Original message ---
Gary, 
 I got your message via the met list. I use a Mac so no concerns for me.

Regards, 

Tom 


On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Gary K. Foote wrote: 

Bill, Dean and list, 

I use Nortons and it is up to date. If my puter is infected I will unsubscribe 
until I get things straightened out. Anyone else get this message from my 
address? 


BTW - I got both Bill's and Dean's posts to the list. SOMEthing is causing this 
'backlash'.  

Gary 




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[meteorite-list] Fireball reports coming in from Michigan

2007-03-11 Thread Chris Peterson
I've received three fireball reports in the last few minutes from 
Michigan and Ontario. I usually consider multiple out-of-area (Colorado) 
reports significant since I don't get many. The event was at 1955-2000 
EDT, roughly north to south, blue-green with lots of fragmentation, 
terminal point approximately over Detroit. Definitely east of South 
Bend, and west of London. The path may have crossed most of the Lower 
Peninsula.

Chris

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT ALERT - GroupShield ticket number OB184006_1173660791_DMG-X1_3 w as generated

2007-03-11 Thread dean bessey
I am pretty sure this is not somebody sending a virus
to the list. I am using yahoo web based email and just
sent a text email in my ad posting that generated this
for me so even if my computer did have a virus it
would  not have been sent with my email (Unless you
received an attachment which I didnt receive) as yahoo
mail would have caught it.
It could be a virus but not one sent with postings
Sincerely
DEAN

--- Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Tom,
 
 I'm running a comprehensive system scan right now so
 soon I shall know if I've got 
 a 'bug' or not.  Did you receive the same 'blocked
 message' that Bill and Dean got?
 
 Gary
 
 -- Original message ---
 Gary, 
  I got your message via the met list. I use a Mac so
 no concerns for me.
 
 Regards, 
 
 Tom 
 
 
 On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Gary K. Foote wrote: 
 
 Bill, Dean and list, 
 
 I use Nortons and it is up to date. If my puter is
 infected I will unsubscribe 
 until I get things straightened out. Anyone else get
 this message from my address? 
 
 
 BTW - I got both Bill's and Dean's posts to the
 list. SOMEthing is causing this 
 'backlash'.  
 
 Gary 
 
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Oh Boy- Here we go....

2007-03-11 Thread Jose Campos
Was any suspicious strong odour detected? Sulphur? Rotten eggs?? Any other???
Wast it found to be red hot or just warm.. at body temperature?
Send it to a lab a.s.a.p.!


- Original Message - 
From: edward moore 
To: mark ford ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go


Hi

It gets very confusing with all of the different NWA's, pairing etc

Now do we have a new subclass of NWA's??

Non Western Anus

Ed

mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The best has to be ... wait for it ...'Shitcoated-Alin' 



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
  Forbes
  Sent: 08 March 2007 07:49
  To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oh Boy- Here we go

  Aaaahh, ha ha ha haaa,

  If fossilised pooh is called coprolite, what do you call meteorite pooh,
  or 
  pooh that falls from the sky?
  I know, sh*tty subject.

  And to think that once upon a time, trains and planes used to just dump
  it 
  all in transit.
  I remember the signage, 'Passengers, do not use toilet at stations.'
  SPLAT 'Oh, crap.'



   Fox news is just now reporting that a certain
  foreign national was arrested at LAX airport with
  wires hanging off of him.
   Upon further investigation, they found a piece of
  chewing gum, some more wire and a rock in his XXX.
  As the suspect put it- the rock is from another
  planet and was in there to protect him
   OK- lets say it is a meteorite ;-)
  
   -what will be the official name of the location
  found?
   -what lab will(want?)do an analysis on it?
   -how long until it winds up on eBay?
   -will it replace the current urgent need for Gao
  pieces?
  
   I needed a grin tonight- this was it.
  Take care
  Mike
  
  
  
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite research

2007-03-11 Thread Jake Baker
Mark,

 

I'm new to the meteorite-list but surmise from reading that you've got a
good handle on meteorite history. Do you have any insight into the
following: 

 

A piece of this specimen is at ASU for positive ID. It is stoney, does not
attract a magnet, with lots of large condrules. The time (1881) may be off a
few years. It belongs to a friend of ours. 

 

 

In 1881 Andrew Jackson Warner was driving a stagecoach approximately fifteen
miles west of Rose City Michigan when he heard what he described as a train
passing over his head. Looking up he saw a large rock plunge to the ground
in front and to the side of his route. He stopped the stage, got off and
walked to where the rock had come to rest. It was slightly imbedded in the
ground but was not hot enough to start a fire. He got back on the stage and
drove to his destination - Damon Michigan about nine miles away.

He put the stage away then hooked the horses to a large wooden sled called a
stone boat. He returned to the impact site and using the horses he pulled
the rock upon the sled. He estimated it weighed about 900 pounds. He secured
it to the sled with wire and pulled it into Damon and off loaded it at the
Damon School Yard where it lay for over 75 years. Over the years about
twenty pounds was chipped away for souvenirs.

Warner's great-great-great grandson retrieved it from the school yard and
has it stored in a garage. The remaining mass and pieces total about 750
pounds. 

 

Damon was a logging camp which was abandoned years ago. 

 

 

 

Thanks, 

 

Barb Baker

 

 

 

 

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[meteorite-list] possible fix for delayed emails

2007-03-11 Thread Michael Murray
Here is something I have tried and seems to fix the email delay  
problem for me.


(I'm on a MAC so I don't know what you PC folks will need to do) When  
I want to create a new message, I go to the bottom of an email and  
select the link Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com for a new  
message.  That opens a new email message and the link goes in my  
To address box. Then I have typed in the subject, completed the  
email and hit sent.  Looks to me like they are prompt (within the  
hour) when I do that versus being 3 and 4 days delayed otherwise.  ???


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[meteorite-list] New Sikhote-Alin web site

2007-03-11 Thread spacerocksinc
New Sikhote-Alin site:
 
http://www.sikhote-alin.org/
 
Regards,
Michael Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
http://www.spacerocksinc.com

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[meteorite-list] Thanks to all for the advice....a few more questions.

2007-03-11 Thread GREG LINDH

   To the list,

Thanks for the info concerning metal detectors.  I think that I'll go with 
the Gold Bug 2.  Now, if you'd bear with me, I have a few more questions.  Are 
there any used Gold Bug 2 detectors available?  I'm retired from a cell to 
cell ministry at San Quentin Prison through The Salvation Army.  I loved my 
work, but it didn't pay a bunch.  I figure the people on this forum would know 
about the availability of used detectors, if anybody would.  
Also, I'm curious as to why my posts take about 24 hours to show up on the 
forum?  Is this normal?  Does it take this long for the other participants here 
to see their posts?
Thanks again for your help.

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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats fromMr Gregory

2007-03-11 Thread Armando Afonso
Dear friends,
From time to time, I take the time and patience to read what is happening in 
this list.
Invariably, Mike Farmer is exchanging insults with someone...
If this list was something near neutrality, this gentleman would have been 
banned long, long  ago...
Anyway, from a certain distance, this fights can be very amusing, too.
Pitty that the only interest of the meteorites for this guys is the 
potential profit, nothing else.
Apart from his predator attitude, arrogance, irritability and scientific 
ignorance, what are his atributes?
AA

- Original Message - 
From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members  Mike re Threats fromMr 
Gregory


 on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List members, this man is now making threats to my
 home and family.. Read this and tell me..
 --
 Dear Mike and all,
Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted
 to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with
 one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it???
I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, PLEASE
 pay attention:
--
I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide
 if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow.
 If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the
 list your opinion to this effect.
   -
Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions
 in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep
 any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as
 clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for
 yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it.
Sincerely, Michael









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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread mckinney trammell
i am from new orleans and this skyrock fell in my home town 2 days before my 
birthday. i am a proud owner of a 57 gram piece w/ crust and drywall fibers on 
it. it is  a favorite skyrock. pix available upon request.

Bruce Yankewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Well, Matt, I understand that there have been SOME larger pieces, that's why 
I chose the word virually when referring to the crumb-sized pieces. I'm 
not particularly looking for a larger piece of New Orleans, I was just 
expressing curiosity at its evolution, from fall to collector market.

Let me try it again. How about this: Compared to other recent, 
similar-TKW falls, it seems like a much higher percentage of the material 
available to collectors is crumb-sized. OK?

B


From: Matt Morgan 
To: Bruce Yankewitz 
CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:36:44 -0700

It is not true...therre have been a few 500+g pieces, many 100g, and alot 
of 20g+.
matt

Bruce Yankewitz wrote:


Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach the 
collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized pieces. Anyone 
know why this is so?

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Armando Afonso
New preparation technique: hammering!

- Original Message - 
From: Bruce Yankewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 10:26 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Orleans



 Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach the
 collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized pieces. 
 Anyone
 know why this is so?

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread mckinney trammell
who IZ the owner?

Edwin Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  The owner of the main mass 
of News Orleans is a long time collector and dealer of meteorites and fossils 
from a small town in the suburbs of New Orleans. He and his wife have a shop 
and a museum and they intend to keep the main mass of the New Orleans intact 
for their museum collection. They have been selling the fragments that were 
broken from the main piece on impact in a consignment arrangement with Blaine 
Reed. There has been a lot of material sold from that event. Blaine had a 
number of fragments for sale in his room in Tucson this year, some small and 
some large. The owners and their children are just fine as is the main mass. 
They attend the Tucson show each year and were there this year with their two 
sons. 

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread ken newton

Hi Bill,
I won't add to the points covered by Norbert.

When I first saw one of Al's sale, I thought it was fake.
I emailed 'flabster' via eBay and asked how he had
acquired the fragments.  He simply replied, easy, walking
along the streets with a magnet in a plastic container
and frequently removing the pieces, besides loads of
car pieces! Best wishes, Al.

Not knowing who he was or understanding that fragments
had surrounded the residence, I issue a warning to other IMCA
members about the auction. Dave Harris who knew Al quickly
corrected my misconceptions. I have since been in contact
with the very kind, reputable Al Falster and I have no reason
to doubt his expertise.  


Bill if you check the link you'll find detailed results of
samples tested.  If you are not confident of an auction for any
reason, don't bid.  However, if you know of fragments being
sold that are not genuine, you need contact the seller. If the
seller is an IMCA member and you cannot obtain satisfaction,
you can file a compliant via the web site. IMCA will contact you
and the member. 


And you would probably get much higher bids if your PF fragments
were accompanied with written authentication by Paul Sipiera
or the like. Not a bad idea.

Best,
Ken Newton




Bill wrote:


Ken,

Most of us know about the N.O. excursion. Point is, how reliable can the 
authenticty of street crumbs be? Can the IMCA vouch for each and every crumb 
that's sold by a member of your org.? I have buckets of very nice crumbs from 
PF that I could market. Can I sell if I buy an imca number or do I need the 
crumbs authenticated. Any volunteers? My point being obvious, I hope.

Bill




 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:44:34 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

Hi Bruce,
After the fall on the Fausset home, Al Falster (ebay seller 'flabster'),
a geologist from the University of New Orleans and a group of students
collected impact fragments off the streets surrounding the residence.
Since then, Al and others have been selling the small 'street' fragments
on ebay.
http://www.uno.edu/pegmatology/pub/meteor/meteor.html (photos)
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpneworleans.html

best,
ken newton

Bruce Yankewitz wrote:

   


Seems to me that virtually all of the New Orleans meteorite to reach
the collector market has been in almost indentical, crumb-sized
pieces. Anyone know why this is so?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Threats from Mr Gregory, this guy is a piece of work.

2007-03-11 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
By the way, my parter is a gun dealer, so any attempts
at my home and collection will be met with an
unpleasant surprise for the attemptee. Arizona
provides very clear laws providing me with the use of
deadly force for protection of ones life and property.
I am sure you know all about that.


ridicolus manwell if you come from me to broken my
face, you have promised, I use the same your method, I
take my Beretta for defend me from you...go to bed
crybaby...I not understand what waith the list to kick
off this person is only good to start fights with
others...

Matteo



--- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:

 List members, this man is now making threats to my
 home and family. Read this and tell me that this man
 is a nice, well-mannered gentleman! We are not
 dealing
 with a stable man. 
 Mr Gregory, a few more threats like this and I will
 have to go to the police. Since you threatened to
 have
 anyone going to your crater inprisoned, and
 tortured,
 and denied help from their respective embassy, you
 sir, deserved anything and everything said about
 you.
  For your information, I am using an Arabic
 keyboard,
 so typing is not so easy, spelling errors are a tad
 common I am afraid. I am also amused that a man with
 your supposed skills, degrees, and certifications,
 must stoop to commenting one someones weight to put
 them down. It shows the desperation in your
 position,
 that you now have put time and money into a
 boondoggle, a fake crater with not one cent in
 meteorites to be found. As the realization that you
 have a worthless piece of dirt to play in, you lash
 out at the messengers who have called you on your
 announcement.
 Myself, I have done quite well in the last weeks:)
 More to come on my spectacular finds in the near
 future. 
 By the way, my parter is a gun dealer, so any
 attempts
 at my home and collection will be met with an
 unpleasant surprise for the attemptee. Arizona
 provides very clear laws providing me with the use
 of
 deadly force for protection of ones life and
 property.
 I am sure you know all about that.
 Michael Farmer
 
 --- Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:53:53 -0800 (PST)
  From: Randall Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Peruvian meteorite
  crater - friendly warning to hunters
  To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Mike,
 
You just keep digging yourself deeper and
 deeper.
  Your post was not intended to be sarcastic. An
 idiot
  could see the underlying tone to your post. Time
 for
  pretending left with the 6th grade, Mike. Now
 you're
  calling people STUPID. And apparently, you still
  can't spell. It's thrown not trown. And here's
  another lesson for you.stupid people are people
  that call people stupid.  Take your time Mike,
 it
  will be a long time before you figure that one
 out.
 
And I'll give you a word of advice. Keep
 screwing
  with me, and I''ll send a few e-mails to a couple
 of
  Arizona prisons letting them know you have a $1
  million dollar unsecured collection in a safe at
  your house, I'll even send them your address.
 Let's
  test you level of paranoia?  Shall we...
 
 
Torture ?  Get real. 
 
Randall

  
  Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill, are you really that stupid? I did not
  threaten
  his life I made a ridiculous post to counter his
  rude
  and ridiculous post saying that he would have any
 of
  us who threatened his crater trown in jail and
  tortured. 
  Learn about sarcasm, it will make your life much
  easier.
  Michael Farmer
  Sorry about the late reply, but I have had no
 email
  access in more than two weeks.
  
  
  --- Bill wrote:
  
   What the hell is wrong with you people, list
   members? Enough already. Are you all so full of
   yourselves that you have to pursue a new witch
  hunt
   on a regular basis?   I don't see this guy
  spamming
   after he was threatened with his life by Mike.
   C'mon. How freaking ignorant was that? Uncalled
  for
   Mike. No excuses for that one. If those that
 need
  a
   goat are so bored as to jump this man, they need
  to
   get off their asses and find another interest.  
 
   
   Let it go. 
   Bill 
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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re Threats from Mr Gregory

2007-03-11 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Perhaps you can learn to
delete anything from me since my posts annoy you. I
will not answer another post from you, so delete my
email and website address as well. Block my email and
that will spare you from reading about my exploits,
new meteorites, and threats of robbery of my home. 


we hope.


--- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha
scritto:

 This from the same Michael Blood who thought that
 the
 list wanted to hear about threats from some Nigerian
 scammer? So Michael, we all need to know about your
 Nigerian scam emails, and their threats against you
 (and 300 million other people in the same email)
 something that has been going on since the internet
 was invented, but I should not air a serious threat
 by
 another LIST MEMBER? Perhaps Michael, it is you who
 does not want to read it, I did not know that you
 spoke for the list. From the emails I have recieved,
 it seems some people are interested when one list
 member threatens another. Perhaps you can learn to
 delete anything from me since my posts annoy you. I
 will not answer another post from you, so delete my
 email and website address as well. Block my email
 and
 that will spare you from reading about my exploits,
 new meteorites, and threats of robbery of my home. 
I am just a little surprised that you know of the
 wishes of every list member. Is there something in
 that bong you are smoking which gives you those
 powers?
 Thanks 
 Michael Farmer
  --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
List members, this man is now making threats
 to
  my
home and family.. Read this and tell
   me..
   --
   Dear Mike and all,
   Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO
  ONE
   on the list wanted
   to read ANY of the posts about issues you and
 this
   fellow have with
   one another? If you knew that would you then
 spare
   us hearing about it???
   I experience you as a fairly intelligent
   fellow, so, please, PLEASE
   pay attention: 
  
   --
   I suggest EVERYONE on the list think
 very
   carefully and decide
   if they want to hear about this dispute between
  Mike
   and this fellow.
   If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it,
   please post to the
   list your opinion to this effect.
 
   -
   Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you
  could
   leave your emotions
   in check for just a moment, fall back on your
  ample
   intelligence and keep
   any communications with this fellow strictly
  between
   you and him, as
   clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you
   will have heard for
   yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants
 to
   hear about it.
   Sincerely, Michael
 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[meteorite-list] Recent E-mails

2007-03-11 Thread Mark Grossman
Just a note from a new member.  Since I am fairly new to the meteorite field, I 
have been mainly watching the postings and learning what I can.  I've posted a 
couple of questions and purchased a few items from some of the members, and I 
can say without a doubt that the members have been very, very helpful with the 
responses.  Thanks to all of you who have helped me out.

With that said, I have found many of the recent e-mails that I have seen to be 
somewhat disheartening, and based on the subject lines, I am starting to delete 
more and more e-mails without reading them, which is unfortunate, because I 
joined the list to read e-mails and learn what I can.  

I know I am new, and many, many of you know each other for many years, and I 
don't mean to interfere or say anything inappropriate.  I just wanted to let 
you know that some of the back and forth does not present the meteorite list in 
the best light to new members, and certainly does not reflect the vast wealth, 
knowledge and experience that almost everyone (except for me!) on the list has. 
 

In addition to providing a means of communication between members who know each 
other, the list has an enormous potential to inform, educate and promote the 
hobby and the profession to members, new and old, as well as the public, and I 
just hope the latter doesn't get lost in all the recent back and forth between 
members.

So having told the list the impression that is being left with at least one new 
member, I will go back to watching the postings.  

Thanks for hearing me out.

Mark

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Sikhote-Alin web site

2007-03-11 Thread Gary K. Foote
I've tried to reach this site twice since it was first announced.  Anyone else 
unable to reach it?

Gary

-- Original message ---
New Sikhote-Alin site: 

http://www.sikhote-alin.org/ 

Regards, 
Michael Johnson
SPACE ROCKS, INC.
http://www.spacerocksinc.com 




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[meteorite-list] THE SO-CALLED ALERT

2007-03-11 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

I got a so-called Alert several days ago when
I posted a reply to Martin Altmann's query about 
costs of space telescopes versus weapon systems;
supposedly it was from Martin's ISP, except that it 
wasn't.
On dissecting the message I found a substantial 
block of embedded data which did not show up
as text nor anything else you would find in a message.
I destroyed that message immediately and ran scans.
I've just burned off all your messages mentioning it
since some people have included or copied all or
part of the alert message in their mail to the List
I would recommend on-arrival deletion of any such
messages, not by deleting in your email program,
which only flags it as assigned to the Deleted folder
and leaves the message intact, but by using Shift+Delete
which will erase it from disc (on a PC) and a scan.
I believe that the material in the message had likely 
been disabled before I got, but I don't trust that it was.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Recent E-mails

2007-03-11 Thread Gary K. Foote
Mark,

You will find this list to be many of the following;

Informative
Knowledgable
Generous

But you will also find it to be;

Fractious
Backbiting
Competitive
Ugly at times

I for one apologize to you for the latter negatives and hope you can ignore 
them 
and focus on the former positives.  There ARE moments of sanity here and they 
at 
least balance the crazy stuff evenly.

The metorite world is nothing if not 'colorful'.  lol

Gary
http://www.meteorite-dealers.com

-- Original message ---
Just a note from a new member. Since I am fairly new to the meteorite field, I 
have been mainly watching the postings and learning what I can. I've posted a 
couple of questions andpurchased a few items from some of the members, and I 
can 
say without a doubt thatthe members have been very, very helpful with the 
responses. Thanks to all of you who have helped me out. 

With that said, I have found many of therecent e-mails that I have seen to 
besomewhat disheartening, and based on the subject lines, I am starting to 
delete 
more and moree-mails without reading them,which is unfortunate, because I 
joined 
the list to read e-mails and learn what I can. 

I know I am new, and many, many of you know each other for many years, and I 
don't 
mean to interfere orsay anything inappropriate. I just wanted to let you know 
that some of the back and forth does not present the meteorite list in the best 
light to new members, and certainly does notreflect the vast wealth, knowledge 
and 
experience thatalmost everyone (except for me!) on thelist has. 

In addition to providing a means of communication between members who know each 
other, the listhas an enormous potential to inform, educate and promote the 
hobby 
and the profession tomembers, new and old, as well as the public, and I just 
hope 
the latter doesn't get lost in all the recent back and forth between members. 

So having told the list the impression that is being left with at least one new 
member, I will go back to watching the postings. 

Thanks for hearing me out. 

Mark 


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Re: [meteorite-list] all List members Mike re ThreatsfromMr Gregory

2007-03-11 Thread batkol
if Mike Farmer [and probably other meteorite hunters] didn't have those 
sometimes less than desirable qualities, predatory attitude, arrogance, in 
some degree, would we have access to as many meteorites?  the guy must 
suffer constantly from  jet lag, so that might explain his irritability and 
his somewhat less than tactful approach to some situations.  he seems 
scientifically informed enough to recognize a meteorite. if all he wanted 
was profit aren't there's lots easier ways to do it?
just a woman trying to understand.
remember, the letter s in cosmic is purely optional.
take care
susan

- Original Message - 
From: Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members  Mike re ThreatsfromMr 
Gregory


 Dear friends,
From time to time, I take the time and patience to read what is happening 
in
 this list.
 Invariably, Mike Farmer is exchanging insults with someone...
 If this list was something near neutrality, this gentleman would have been
 banned long, long  ago...
 Anyway, from a certain distance, this fights can be very amusing, too.
 Pitty that the only interest of the meteorites for this guys is the
 potential profit, nothing else.
 Apart from his predator attitude, arrogance, irritability and scientific
 ignorance, what are his atributes?
 AA

 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List
 meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 8:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] all List members  Mike re Threats fromMr
 Gregory


 on 3/10/07 8:11 AM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 List members, this man is now making threats to my
 home and family.. Read this and tell me..
 --
 Dear Mike and all,
Mike, would it help if you KNEW that NO ONE on the list wanted
 to read ANY of the posts about issues you and this fellow have with
 one another? If you knew that would you then spare us hearing about it???
I experience you as a fairly intelligent fellow, so, please, 
 PLEASE
 pay attention:
--
I suggest EVERYONE on the list think very carefully and decide
 if they want to hear about this dispute between Mike and this fellow.
 If even ONE list member WANTS to hear about it, please post to the
 list your opinion to this effect.
   -
Mike - if NO ONE responds, perhaps you could leave your emotions
 in check for just a moment, fall back on your ample intelligence and keep
 any communications with this fellow strictly between you and him, as
 clearly, out of the hundreds of list members you will have heard for
 yourself that NOT ONE of the list members wants to hear about it.
Sincerely, Michael









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Re: [meteorite-list] Who's still got their first meteorite?

2007-03-11 Thread Pat Brown
Hi Ruben and the List, 

This is a great topic. 

I still have the first meteorite I purchased. It is a
small Canyon Diablo.

I also have the first meteorite that I found, a small
Tungsten Mountain. 

There is also joy in giving away meteorites. This past
Christmas, I gave a small Tungsten Mountain meteorite
to each of my nephews and nieces. I printed an 8.5 x
11 glossy of the in-situ photo and framed this with
the meteorite in a gem jar velcroed to the front of
the frame, on the back of the frame is a color
printout of a USGS topo map with the location that the
meteorite was found. Each of the kids really enjoyed
them. One niece took hers to class and used it for
show and tell. Kids need things that make science fun
and meaning full. 

Pat
--- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 I'm sure I am atypical. For years I sold, traded,
 lost, or gave away just about every meteorite I ever
 found. It wasn't till about a year or two ago that I
 actually started collecting them. Even now I only
 hold
 on to the very best of what I find. I really regret
 selling some meteorites though, as some of my very
 best finds are in other peoples collections.
 
 
 Ruben Garcia
 Phoenix, Arizona
 http://www.mr-meteorite.com
 
 
  


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Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois Meteorite Astronomy Magazine News Blog

2007-03-11 Thread Jeff Kuyken
It would make sense. My first thought was a large mower when I heard the
story. I once saw one throw a (~300g) chuck of metal nearly 100 metres and
end up going through the rear window of a car in an adjacent car park. It
was just a miracle that it didn't hit someone.

Cheers,

Jeff

- Original Message -
From: MARK BOSTICK
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:09 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Illinois Meteorite Astronomy Magazine News Blog


Hello everyone,

Perhaps Astronomy Magazine's Daniel Pendick was the only writer to actually
contact a meteorite expert on this meteorite.

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=5264

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
www.meteoritearticles.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Orleans

2007-03-11 Thread Robin Galyan
Is there a way to get this in digest mode,  one big email a day rather than 
50? 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite research

2007-03-11 Thread MARK BOSTICK

Hello Barb (and list),

Mark, I’m new to the meteorite-list but surmise from reading that 
you’ve got a good handle on meteorite history. Do you have any insight into 
the following:


I am going to assume (you know what they say about that) and guess that you 
were directly this question to me, there are a few Marks here (but many more 
Mike's).  I get a couple dozen like e-mails a month through my website, and 
I am somewhat a meteorite historian, so I am not going to far out here.


A piece of this specimen is at ASU for positive ID. It is stoney, does 
not attract a magnet, with lots of large condrules. The time (1881) may be 
off a few years. It belongs to a friend of ours.
Glad to hear that.  ASU will surely be able to tell you what it is...or at 
least if it is a meteorite.


In 1881 Andrew Jackson Warner was driving a stagecoach approximately 
fifteen miles west of Rose City Michigan when he heard what he described as 
a train passing over his head. Looking up he saw a large rock plunge to the 
ground in front and to the side of his route. He stopped the stage, got off 
and walked to where the rock had come to rest. It was slightly imbedded in 
the ground but was not hot enough to start a fire. He got back on the stage 
and drove to his destination – Damon Michigan about nine miles away.


He put the stage away then hooked the horses to a large wooden sled 
called a stone boat. He returned to the impact site and using the horses he 
pulled the rock upon the sled. He estimated it weighed about 900 pounds. He 
secured it to the sled with wire and pulled it into Damon and off loaded it 
at the Damon School Yard where it lay for over 75 years. Over the years 
about twenty pounds was chipped away for souvenirs.


Warner’s great-great-great grandson retrieved it from the school yard 
and has it stored in a garage. The remaining mass and pieces total about 750 
pounds.


Damon was a logging camp which was abandoned years ago.

Interestingly there is a Rose City, Michigan meteorite.  It fell October 
17th, 1921 and was the fourth meteorite known from Michigan, the second seen 
to fall.


On the event you described, there is not much I can really tell you from 
what you have supplied.  If I was given a date of the reported fall, I could 
check my archives for Michigan and area meteor reports from that time.  I 
included a couple meteor reports below as a example. (For those outside of 
the US, Indiana is below Michigan.) I should also note that even if I could 
match up a date and a meteor report, there would of course be no way of 
proving the two events were related.


Good luck with your submission, and should you have any other questions, 
feel free to ask myself, or the list in general.


Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
Wichita, Kansas
http://www.meteoritearticles.com
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Paper: Fort Wayne Daily Gazette
City: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Date: Sunday Morning, September 25, 1881
Page: 2 (of 8)

Under CITY NEWS.

A meteor of surprising brilliancy was observed last night, falling due 
west at an angle of about 80 degrees, and disappearing from view in the 
northwest. It started falling at 11 h. 22 m. 33 s., Fort Wayne time, and 
finished 6 seconds later. To-day will be fine and clear though somewhat 
windy.


(end)

Paper: Fort Wayne Daily Gazette
City: Fort Wayne, Indiana
Date: Thursday Morning, October 6, 1881
Page: 2 (of 8)

A Southern Meteor.

Tuesday night about 10 o'clock the residents in the upper portion of 
the city were treated to a meteoric exhibition of wonderful brilliancy. The 
meteor seemed to shoot across the sky from south-west to north-east, its 
path being marked by a radiance far greater than that of the electric light. 
It finally exploded, sending out burning fragments or coruscations in every 
direction. The writer is informed by persons who saw the meteor that it was 
accompanied by a whizzing sound, and that the noise of the explosion was so 
loud that they momentarily expected to hear the fragments falling.


(end)


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Re: [meteorite-list] MOON ROCKS! (AD)

2007-03-11 Thread Michael L Blood
Hi all,
 We all can tell stories about taking a newbee friends or relative  out
to a strewn field and they find a meteorite.
Try to beat what my sister came up with. moon rocks! They are
about the size of a silver dollar. and she is selling them for $7 to
list members - which INCLUDES the shipping!
(You can order through me via paypal at my return address on this
post - I make nothing on them - just a favor to her - be sure to include
your address). 
Check them out here:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2733787920035542431GcHumT

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