[meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread info
We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered Masses 
of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a non-commercial download.

The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg (including 
the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots. More than 80 
individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou meteorite fall 
is 93.851kg.

In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be 
much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou 
meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases 
we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or under a 
certain lot.

In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many meteorites 
change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers equip their 
colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they simply exchange 
certain batches of material between one another. This is the reason why one and 
the same meteorite can be offered to you from different sellers from the same 
NWA country successively. 

During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on its 
journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a meteorite fair 
in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a collector in Canada. 
During the stations of the journey this particular meteorite was offered no 
less than 12 times under different circumstances and with different photos. 

This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion that 
many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely overestimated in 
their total weight.

We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of future 
meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our undertaking 
helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania and Morocco to 
preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites they trade. 

You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm

Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf

Please allow the large document some time to load.


Thanks again to all contributors.


Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann



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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread matt
An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and Matthias. I've
only managed a quick browser through so far, but look forward to
spending longer reading it later. It's enlightening to see this amount
of detail regarding a fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.

Thanks for all your time and effort,

Matt.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered 
 Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a non-commercial 
 download.

 The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg 
 (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots. 
 More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou 
 meteorite fall is 93.851kg.

 In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
 collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be 
 much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou 
 meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases 
 we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or under a 
 certain lot.

 In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many meteorites 
 change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers equip 
 their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they simply 
 exchange certain batches of material between one another. This is the reason 
 why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you from different sellers 
 from the same NWA country successively. 

 During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on 
 its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a 
 meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a 
 collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular 
 meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances and 
 with different photos. 

 This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
 circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion that 
 many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely overestimated 
 in their total weight.

 We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of 
 future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our 
 undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania 
 and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites 
 they trade. 

 You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
 bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:

 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm

 Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:

 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf

 Please allow the large document some time to load.


 Thanks again to all contributors.


 Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann



   

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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Matt Morgan
Agreed. Reminds me of a H.H. Nininger write-up.  Fascinating and a great 
account of the fall. Thanks for taking the time!

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites

matt wrote:

An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and Matthias. I've
only managed a quick browser through so far, but look forward to
spending longer reading it later. It's enlightening to see this amount
of detail regarding a fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.

Thanks for all your time and effort,

Matt.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered Masses 
of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a non-commercial download.

The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg (including 
the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots. More than 80 
individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou meteorite fall 
is 93.851kg.

In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be 
much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou 
meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases 
we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or under a 
certain lot.

In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many meteorites change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers equip their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they simply exchange certain batches of material between one another. This is the reason why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you from different sellers from the same NWA country successively. 

During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances and with different photos. 


This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion that 
many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely overestimated in 
their total weight.

We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites they trade. 


You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm

Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf

Please allow the large document some time to load.


Thanks again to all contributors.


Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann



  



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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - July 2, 2007

2007-07-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Independently Approaches and Studies A Rock
Outcrop - sol 1234-1239, July 02, 2007:

Spirit remains healthy after attempting to wrap up scientific studies on
an outcrop that contains several tantalizing, high-silica targets.
High-silica targets are of interest to scientists because water might
have been involved in forming them. Spirit still has some work to do on
two targets, known as Eileen Dean and Innocent Bystander, before
moving on to the elevated, circular plateau known as Home Plate.

On Spirit's 1,235th sol, or Martian day of exploration (June 24, 2007),
the rover successfully completed Step 4 of a new computer sequence
called IDD Autoplace. (IDD stands for Instrument Deployment Device,
the technical name for the rover's robotic arm.) During the test, Spirit
drove to a pre-selected target and autonomously gathered scientific
data. The sequence enables the rover to select a substitute target of
opportunity if the pre-selected target is out of range, which is
exactly what happened during the first two tests.

Over the next month, Spirit will collect data in support of future Mars
rover missions by taking images of the Sun each day with the navigation
camera. These images are being used to develop an alternate method for
orienting the rover.

Sol-by-sol summary:

In addition to daily remote science observations of the atmosphere and
terrain using the panoramic camera and the miniature thermal emission
spectrometer, and communication activities including morning
direct-from-Earth uplinks via the rover's high-gain antenna and evening
downlinks at UHF frequencies via the Mars Odyssey orbiter, Spirit
completed the following activities:

Sol 1234 (June 23, 2007): Spirit acquired full-color images, using all
13 filters of the panoramic camera, of outcrop exposures known as
Virginia Bell, Nancy Warren, and Innocent Bystander. The rover
acquired panoramic camera images of a target known as Eileen Dean.
Spirit surveyed several targets using the miniature thermal emission
spectrometer, including Mary Dailey, NancyWarren3, Dolores Moore,
Louella Daetweiler, NancyWarren_background, MaryDailey2, and
Eileen Dean.

Sol 1235: Upon awakening, Spirit surveyed the sky with the panoramic
camera. Spirit then moved slightly closer to Eileen Dean. The rover
completed Step 4 of the automatic targeting test by touching a spot that
was offset from the target by about 5 centimeters (2 inches) with the
Moessbauer spectrometer, acquiring a 1-by-1-by-seven mosaic of
microscopic images, and placing the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer on
the spot and collecting data with the instrument. Spirit acquired
navigation camera images and conducted a sky survey at low sun with the
panoramic camera. Prior to the overpass of the Odyssey orbiter, the
rover took images of the sky, known as sky flats, for calibration
purposes.

Sol 1236: Spirit used on-board software to watch for dust devils in
addition to completing standard remote-science observations.

Sol 1237: Spirit rotated in place toward Eileen Dean, completing a final
yaw, or pivot, of 42.8 degrees. Working autonomously, Spirit touched
Eileen Dean with the Moessbauer spectrometer, acquired a 1-by-1-by-7
mosaic of microscopic images of the target, and completed alpha-particle
X-ray spectrometer studies on the target. Spirit acquired images with
the navigation camera. Spirit examined the rover's external calibration
target with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer to verify that
there was no dust contamination on the mirror as a result of recent
dust-cleaning events related to Martian winds. Spirit acquired
full-color images, using all 13 filters of the panoramic camera, of the
rover's solar arrays, also to characterize changes in dust accumulation
on the surface. Prior to the overpass of the Odyssey spacecraft, Spirit
observed the Sun with the navigation camera in support of the Mars
Science Laboratory rover scheduled for launch in 2009. The goal of these
observations is to see if navigation camera images of the sun can be
used to orient the rover.

Sol 1238: In the morning, Spirit monitored dust build-up on the rover's
mast, surveyed the horizon with the panoramic camera, and acquired movie
frames with the navigation camera in search of dust devils. Spirit
acquired microscopic images of the solar arrays, capture magnet, and
filter magnet to document dust levels since the most recent
dust-cleaning events on sols 1233 and 1234 (June 22-23, 2007). The rover
acquired microscopic images of Eileen Dean and collected data on the
target using the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer. Spirit acquired four
sets of comparative measurements with the miniature thermal emission
spectrometer early in the day, in the afternoon, overnight, and early
the next sol. Spirit observed the Sun with the navigation camera in
support of the Mars Science Laboratory rover scheduled for launch in
2009. The goal of these observations 

Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Meteoriteshow
Yes, definitely a fantastic job that had never been done on any meteorite fall 
before, as far as I know.
Thanks a lot for sharing those prcious information!
All the best.

Frederic Beroud
http://www.meteoriteshow.com
IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/)

- Original Message -
From: matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses 
released


 An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and Matthias. I've
 only managed a quick browser through so far, but look forward to
 spending longer reading it later. It's enlightening to see this amount
 of detail regarding a fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.

 Thanks for all your time and effort,

 Matt.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered 
  Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now
available as a non-commercial download.
 
  The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg 
  (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another
31.665kg in lots. More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of 
the Bassikounou meteorite fall is 93.851kg.
 
  In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
  collectors explaining that regarding to their
observations the TKW should be much higher. To prove their point they showed us 
images of single Bassikounou meteorites or complete
lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases we had cataloged the 
particular masses before either individually or under a
certain lot.
 
  In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many 
  meteorites change hands already before they get distributed.
Moroccan sellers equip their colleagues with commission material to visit 
Europe, or they simply exchange certain batches of
material between one another. This is the reason why one and the same meteorite 
can be offered to you from different sellers from
the same NWA country successively.
 
  During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on 
  its journey from the local finder, to a distributor
in Morroco, to a meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and 
finally to a collector in Canada. During the stations of
the journey this particular meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under 
different circumstances and with different photos.
 
  This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
  circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us
to the conclusion that many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are 
largely overestimated in their total weight.
 
  We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of 
  future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are
positive, that our undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as 
distributors in Mauritania and Morocco to preserve the
information that is connected to the meteorites they trade.
 
  You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
  bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:
 
  http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm
 
  Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:
 
  http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf
 
  Please allow the large document some time to load.
 
 
  Thanks again to all contributors.
 
 
  Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann
 
 
 
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
probably the work is not ended seen many pieces is not
present in the list, the 90+ kg. is not the final tkw.
Now I need another piece of this meteorite for a trade here
in Italy.

Matteo

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Da : matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bassikounou masses released
Data : Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:25:48 +0100

 An absolutely stunning piece of work, well done Svend and
 Matthias. I've only managed a quick browser through so far
 , but look forward to spending longer reading it later.
 It's enlightening to see this amount of detail regarding a
 fall and it's subsequent collection/distribution.
 
 Thanks for all your time and effort,
 
 Matt.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog
 on the Recovered Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall
 is now available as a non-commercial download. 
  The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight
 of 62.186kg (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually
 and another 31.665kg in lots. More than 80 individual
 masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou
 meteorite fall is 93.851kg. 
  In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often
 been approached by collectors explaining that regarding to
 their observations the TKW should be much higher. To prove
 their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou
 meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In
 99% of these cases we had cataloged the particular masses
 before either individually or under a certain lot. 
  In this context it might be interesting for some of you,
 that many meteorites change hands already before they get
 distributed. Moroccan sellers equip their colleagues with
 commission material to visit Europe, or they simply
 exchange certain batches of material between one another.
 This is the reason why one and the same meteorite can be
 offered to you from different sellers from the same NWA
 country successively.  
  During our research we were able to follow an exemplary
 Bassikounou mass on its journey from the local finder, to
 a distributor in Morroco, to a meteorite fair in France,
 to a European mineral dealer and finally to a collector in
 Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular
 meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under
 different circumstances and with different photos.  
  This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is
 much more material circulating than actually is. Our
 experience lead us to the conclusion that many recent
 meteorite falls that produced showers are largely
 overestimated in their total weight. 
  We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding
 and recovery of future meteorite falls in isolated areas.
 And we are positive, that our undertaking helps to
 sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania
 and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected
 to the meteorites they trade.  
  You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the
 cover image on the bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou
 report: 
 

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm
 
  Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:
 
 

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf
 
  Please allow the large document some time to load.
 
 
  Thanks again to all contributors.
 
 
  Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann
 
 
 

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Alexander Seidel
An astonishing, excellent piece of work!
Thanks a bunch, Svend and Matthias,
for a job very well done,

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 14:36:02 +0200
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses   released

 We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered
 Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a
 non-commercial download.
 
 The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg
 (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots.
 More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou
 meteorite fall is 93.851kg.
 
 In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by
 collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be
 much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single
 Bassikounou meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of 
 these
 cases we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or
 under a certain lot.
 
 In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many
 meteorites change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers
 equip their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they 
 simply
 exchange certain batches of material between one another. This is the
 reason why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you from different
 sellers from the same NWA country successively. 
 
 During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass
 on its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a
 meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a
 collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular 
 meteorite
 was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances and with
 different photos. 
 
 This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material
 circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion
 that many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely
 overestimated in their total weight.
 
 We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of
 future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our
 undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania
 and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites
 they trade. 
 
 You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the
 bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:
 
 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm
 
 Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:
 
 http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf
 
 Please allow the large document some time to load.
 
 
 Thanks again to all contributors.
 
 
 Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann
 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] Re-2: Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread bernd . pauli
An astonishing, excellent piece of work! Thanks a bunch, Svend
and Matthias, for a job very well done, Alex - Berlin/Germany

Agreed!
Ja, das stimmt!
D'accord!
D'accordo!

Maybe this texbook example will help motivate every potential NWA finders in 
the future
to document their falls/finds as painstakingly and as thoroughly as Matthias 
and Svend did!

This would be of tremendous scientific value and would probably make many a 
scientist
think twice before they say, think or write something like: Non-scientists 
and/or collectors
are incapable of properly dealing with a meteorite fall/find.

Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou massesreleased

2007-07-03 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Thanks so much, Bernd, Alex, Matt, Peter  all for sharing the Bassikounou 
(resp. Bassiknou, resp. Basseknou, resp. Bassaknou, resp. Bassknou - we got 
information via these and more versions of the name) enthusiasm with us. 
Bassikounoumia? ... And well, Matteo, I'd be utmost thankful for any 
information regarding Bassikounou masses not included in our catalogue until 
now.


Best regards,

Matthias

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massesreleased




An astonishing, excellent piece of work! Thanks a bunch, Svend
and Matthias, for a job very well done, Alex - Berlin/Germany

Agreed!
Ja, das stimmt!
D'accord!
D'accordo!

Maybe this texbook example will help motivate every potential NWA 
finders in the future
to document their falls/finds as painstakingly and as thoroughly as 
Matthias and Svend did!


This would be of tremendous scientific value and would probably make many 
a scientist
think twice before they say, think or write something like: 
Non-scientists and/or collectors

are incapable of properly dealing with a meteorite fall/find.

Best wishes,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou massesreleased

2007-07-03 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Fall 12 October 2006, Hodh ech Chargui, Mauretania.
Chondrite H5. Total mass over 72 kg. Piece in collection:
slice with crust gr.8.79 (670) individual with crust
gr.50.50 (673)

Matteo

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recovered Bassikounou massesreleased
Data : Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:59:25 +0200

 Thanks so much, Bernd, Alex, Matt, Peter  all for sharing
 the Bassikounou  (resp. Bassiknou, resp. Basseknou, resp.
 Bassaknou, resp. Bassknou - we got  information via these
 and more versions of the name) enthusiasm with us. 
 Bassikounoumia? ... And well, Matteo, I'd be utmost
 thankful for any  information regarding Bassikounou masses
 not included in our catalogue until  now.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Matthias
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:17 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Catalog of the recovered
 Bassikounou  massesreleased
 
 
  An astonishing, excellent piece of work! Thanks a bunch,
  Svend and Matthias, for a job very well done, Alex -
 Berlin/Germany 
  Agreed!
  Ja, das stimmt!
  D'accord!
  D'accordo!
 
  Maybe this texbook example will help motivate every
  potential NWA  finders in the future
  to document their falls/finds as painstakingly and as
  thoroughly as  Matthias and Svend did!
 
  This would be of tremendous scientific value and would
  probably make many  a scientist
  think twice before they say, think or write something
  like:  Non-scientists and/or collectors
  are incapable of properly dealing with a meteorite
 fall/find. 
  Best wishes,
 
  Bernd
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounoumasses released

2007-07-03 Thread MARK BOSTICK

Alex wrote An astonishing, excellent piece of work!

I agree. You guys did a great job tracking these meteorites.  Thanks for 
your time and effort.


Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounoumassesreleased

2007-07-03 Thread Stefan Brandes

I also can only agree!
Perfect work!

Individual #53  33,2g is now owned be me ;)

congrats,
Stefan



Alex wrote An astonishing, excellent piece of work!

I agree. You guys did a great job tracking these meteorites.  Thanks for 
your time and effort.


Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
www.meteoritearticles.com


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Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou massesreleased

2007-07-03 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Thank you, Matteo, your information is much appreciated.

The crusted 8.79 gm (part-?) slice is already included in the TKW of the 
catalogue as it is cut from the 3165 gm El Moichine - mass (Cat. # 1).


What concerns the 50.50 gm individual we'll try to check it out whether it's 
part of one of the lots. If not we'll hold it in storage for cat. vol. II 
(which we'll not hesitate to publish as soon as vol. I is on the bestseller 
lists ;-).


Saluti a Italia,

Matthias



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Fall 12 October 2006, Hodh ech Chargui, Mauretania.
Chondrite H5. Total mass over 72 kg. Piece in collection:
slice with crust gr.8.79 (670) individual with crust
gr.50.50 (673)

Matteo

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Thanks so much, Bernd, Alex, Matt, Peter  all for sharing
the Bassikounou  (resp. Bassiknou, resp. Basseknou, resp.
Bassaknou, resp. Bassknou - we got  information via these
and more versions of the name) enthusiasm with us.
Bassikounoumia? ... And well, Matteo, I'd be utmost
thankful for any  information regarding Bassikounou masses
not included in our catalogue until  now.

Best regards,

Matthias

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 An astonishing, excellent piece of work! Thanks a bunch,
 Svend and Matthias, for a job very well done, Alex -
Berlin/Germany 
 Agreed!
 Ja, das stimmt!
 D'accord!
 D'accordo!

 Maybe this texbook example will help motivate every
 potential NWA  finders in the future
 to document their falls/finds as painstakingly and as
 thoroughly as  Matthias and Svend did!

 This would be of tremendous scientific value and would
 probably make many  a scientist
 think twice before they say, think or write something
 like:  Non-scientists and/or collectors
 are incapable of properly dealing with a meteorite
fall/find. 
 Best wishes,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou massesreleased

2007-07-03 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
I have buy in Ensisheim

Matteo

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Data : Tue, 3 Jul 2007 21:09:05 +0200

 
 What concerns the 50.50 gm individual we'll try to check
 it out whether it's  part of one of the lots. If not we'll
 hold it in storage for cat. vol. II  (which we'll not
 hesitate to publish as soon as vol. I is on the bestseller
 lists ;-).
 
 Saluti a Italia,
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released

2007-07-03 Thread Mal Bishop


Dear Svend and Mathias,

I can't say it with any more appreciation and acclaim than everyone else 
who've already thanked you both for your extremely diligent, singular work 
on Bassikounou.  Your Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered Masses of the 
Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is simply astounding!  I immediately downloaded 
it, printed it, and I'm presently in the process, with excitement, 
digesting it all!


Both your descriptive catalog and your account of the fall presented on 
your website will hopefully give impetus to those in the future to present 
such similar detail when researching and documenting subsequent falls and 
even finds for that matter when possible!


I've printed out both works and placed them in a binder to sit along side 
my other reference materials.


Danke sehr,
Mal


At 02:36 PM 7/3/2007 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered 
Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a 
non-commercial download.


The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg 
(including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in 
lots. More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the 
Bassikounou meteorite fall is 93.851kg.


In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by 
collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should 
be much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single 
Bassikounou meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% 
of these cases we had cataloged the particular masses before either 
individually or under a certain lot.


In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many 
meteorites change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan 
sellers equip their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, 
or they simply exchange certain batches of material between one another. 
This is the reason why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you 
from different sellers from the same NWA country successively.


During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass 
on its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a 
meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a 
collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular 
meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances 
and with different photos.


This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material 
circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion 
that many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely 
overestimated in their total weight.


We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of 
future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our 
undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in 
Mauritania and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to 
the meteorites they trade.


You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the 
bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report:


http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm

Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser:

http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf

Please allow the large document some time to load.


Thanks again to all contributors.


Svend Buhl  Matthias Baermann



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[meteorite-list] NASA Gives Two Successful Spacecraft New Assignments (Stardust Deep Impact)

2007-07-03 Thread Ron Baalke


July 3, 2007

Grey Hautaluoma/Tabatha Thompson
Headquarters, Washington 
202-358-0668/3895

RELEASE: 07-147

NASA GIVES TWO SUCCESSFUL SPACECRAFT NEW ASSIGNMENTS

WASHINGTON -- Two NASA spacecraft now have new assignments after 
successfully completing their missions. The duo will make new 
observations of comets and characterize extrasolar planets. Stardust 
and Deep Impact will use their flight-proven hardware to perform new, 
previously unplanned, investigations. 

These mission extensions are as exciting as it gets. They will allow 
us to revisit a comet for the first time, add another to the list of 
comets explored and make a search for small planets around stars with 
known large planets. And by using existing spacecraft in flight, we 
can accomplish all of this for only about 15 percent of the cost of 
starting a new mission from scratch, said Alan Stern, associate 
administrator for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Headquarters, 
Washington. These new mission assignments for veteran spacecraft 
represent not only creative thinking and planning, but are also a 
prime example of getting more from the budget we have. 

The EPOXI mission melds two compelling science investigations -- the 
Deep Impact Extended Investigation (DIXI) and the Extrasolar Planet 
Observation and Characterization (EPOCh). Both investigations will be 
performed using the Deep Impact spacecraft, which finished its prime 
mission in 2005. 

DIXI will involve a flyby of comet Boethin, which has never been 
explored. Boethin is a small, short period comet, or one that returns 
frequently to the inner solar system, from beyond Jupiter's orbit. 
This investigation will allow the recovery of some of the science 
lost with the 2002 failure of the COmet Nucleus Tour (CONTOUR) 
mission that was designed to make comparative studies of multiple 
comets. DIXI will be targeted to fly by comet Boethin December 5, 
2008.

The EPOCh investigation also will use the Deep Impact spacecraft to 
observe several nearby bright stars, watching as the giant planets 
already known to be orbiting the stars pass in front of and then 
behind them. The collected data will be used to characterize the 
giant planets and to determine whether they possess rings, moons, or 
Earth-sized planetary companions. EPOCh's sensitivity will exceed 
both current ground and space-based observatory capabilities. EPOCh 
also will measure the mid-infrared spectrum of the Earth, providing 
comparative data for future efforts to study the atmospheres of 
extrasolar planets. This search for extrasolar planets will be made 
this year, en route to comet Boethin. 

Michael A'Hearn of the University of Maryland, College Park, is 
EPOXI's principal investigator and the leader of the DIXI science 
team. L. Drake Deming of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, in 
Greenbelt, Md., is EPOXI's deputy principal investigator and leads 
the EPOCh investigation.

John Mather, Chief Scientist for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, 
said, EPOXI is a wonderful opportunity to add to our growing body of 
knowledge of exoplanets. Watching planets go behind or in front of 
their parent stars can tell us about their atmospheric chemistry. 

The other newly selected Discovery mission of opportunity is called 
New Exploration of Tempel 1 (NExT). The mission will reuse NASA's 
Stardust spacecraft to revisit comet Tempel 1. This investigation 
will provide the first look at the changes to a comet nucleus 
produced after its close approach to the sun. It will mark the first 
time a comet has ever been revisited. NExT also will extend the 
mapping of Tempel 1, making it the most mapped comet nucleus to date. 
This mapping will help address the major questions of comet nucleus 
geology raised by images of areas where it appears material might 
have flowed like a liquid or powder. The images were returned by Deep 
Impact from its encounter with the comet on July 4, 2005. NExt is 
scheduled to fly by Tempel 1 on Feb. 14, 2011. 

Joseph Veverka of Cornell University, Ithaca, NY, is NExT's principal 
investigator. 

Stardust launched in Feb. 7, 1999. It traveled over 2 billion miles to 
fly within 150 miles of the comet Wild 2 in January 2004 to bring 
back samples that may provide new insights into the composition of 
comets and how they vary from one another. The container with the 
comet samples returned to Earth in January 2006 while the rest of the 
spacecraft remained in space.

Created in 1992, NASA's Discovery Program sponsors frequent, 
cost-capped solar system exploration missions with highly focused 
scientific goals. In 2006, NASA received approximately two dozen 
proposals in response to an Announcement of Opportunity for Discovery 
missions and Missions of Opportunity. Proposals were evaluated for 
scientific merit, technical, management and cost feasibility. 

For more information about the Discovery Program, visit: 

http://discovery.nasa.gov
For information about NASA and agency programs, 

[meteorite-list] FS: Uruacu Whole Specimens

2007-07-03 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
My 1975 gram end cut sold really fast so I figured it it would be a good 
time to list the  7 whole specimens I have available for $1 per gram


They range from 85 grams up to around 400 grams

I have soaked them in a NaOH solution for a week and nothing came out so 
they are very stable.


They have a brownish material on the surface but it's not rust, I soaked one 
in Naval Jelly and it had no effect on it, if it were rust it would have 
cleaned it up pretty good.


I do have a cleaning process that removes most of this weathered material 
and once I'm done they have a very nice crust.


Click this to see a picture of an 85 gram specimen:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Uruacu/85grFragment.jpg


There is no oil or anything to make it shiny, it's just the way it looks.

If you're interested in a whole specimen send an email off list to bobadebt 
at ec.rr.com and let me know what your interested in.


If you want to include your phone number I will be glad to give you a call 
to discuss exactly what your looking for.


Thanks 


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[meteorite-list] Dust Delays Mars Crater Entry

2007-07-03 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=1411

Dust Delays Mars Crater Entry
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
July 03, 2007

A giant dust storm brewing for more than a week on Mars has become worse
and is affecting surface operations of the Mars Exploration Rovers,
Spirit and Opportunity. Because the rovers depend on solar energy for
survival, and the dust is partially blocking the sun, the storm is being
watched closely by the rover scientists and engineers. Opportunity's
entry into Victoria Crater is delayed for at least several days.

The storm, the most severe storm yet to hit the rovers, is expected to
continue for at least another week. Opportunity is perched near Duck
Bay as it readies to descend into Victoria Crater, but operations were
scaled back on Saturday, June 30, to conserve power.

The storm is affecting both rovers and reducing the power levels on
Opportunity, said John Callas, Mars Exploration Rover project manager
at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. We are keeping an
eye on this as we go forward, but our entry into Victoria Crater will be
delayed until no sooner than July 13.

We have some data that show the atmospheric opacity is decreasing, so
the storm might have peaked and we may have passed the worst of this.
The situation could improve quickly from here, but we will have to wait
and see, said Callas.

Weather reports from NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Mars Color
Imager camera are helping track the storm and plan rover operations.

Pictures from the orbiter's Mars Color Imager show the storm is regional
in extent, and includes several local areas of especially high dust
activity. The storm has been moving eastward and toward mid-latitudes,
and is now also causing an increase in atmospheric dust at Spirit's
location, on the opposite side of the planet at Gusev Crater. Dust
levels at Gusev remain much lower than at the Opportunity site, however.

Both rovers take daily measurements estimating the amount of dust in the
atmosphere. The less dust the better, because it means more sunlight
reaches the rover's solar panels, which power the vehicles. In the last
week, Opportunity has broken its dust record, with the opacity level
rising from 1.0 to 3.3. Solar array energy on Opportunity dropped from
765 watt-hours to 402 watt-hours over the same period of time.

While this only represents enough dust to coat the planet to about the
thickness of a human hair, it is enough to decrease the brightness of
the noon sun by 96 percent compared to a completely clear atmosphere,
said Steve Squyres, principal investigator, Cornell University, Ithaca,
N.Y. Of course, the solar arrays also receive light that is scattered
from the dust, so the decrease in power is not nearly that great.

We have not seen dust measurements this high on either rover before. If
the dust levels were to increase further and stay elevated for several
days, there is a risk to how well Opportunity could continue to work in
this darkened environment, said Callas.



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