[meteorite-list] Meteorite Squares Wanted

2008-01-16 Thread Jeff Kuyken
G'day all,

I'm looking for 40 meteorite squares or circles (20mm diameter). Approximate
square dimensions would need to be 20mmx20mm and no more than 2mm-2.5mm
thick. An unclassified NWA is fine, preferably with some metal flecks. If
anyone is interested and can help, could you please contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Jeff Kuyken
Meteorites Australia
www.meteorites.com.au



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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January14, 2008

2008-01-16 Thread Matthias Bärmann
To steal might be too hard. Let's say he wanted to move the meteorite 
away. Well, and if something seems to go wrong you always can try to arrange 
a large eating and drinking party. Not easy to stop the run of a meteorite 
hunter with his capture - for him it means bringing the baby home ;-)


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Hello List and Matthias,

I also thought that was a unique sentence, and I wonder if by caught it
meant that he was trying to steal the specimen.  And if so why they sent him
home with a 107 kg piece and not to jail?

Take Care,
Jason
Rocks from Heaven
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In 1906, Henry Ward tried to leave the town with the whole mass, but was
caught, and did manage to obtain a 107 kg end-piece.

Don't know why but I love this sentence ;-)


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http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_14_2008.html

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[meteorite-list] Look forward to Asteroid ParisHilton

2008-01-16 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.wisn.com/education/15056479/detail.html

Racine Sophomores Discover Asteroid

POSTED: 4:23 pm CST January 15, 2008

RACINE, Wis. -- Three Racine sophomore students were notified on Monday that a
celestial body they discovered during a science project had been verified as an
asteroid.

The students at Racine's Prairie School will be able to name the asteroid,
temporarily identified as 2008 AZ28, in about four years, according to the
Minor Planet Center in Cambridge, Mass., the international authority on known
objects in the solar system.

Sophomores Connor Leipold, Tim Pastika and Kyle Simpson were able to make the
discovery thanks to technology provided from Calvin College in Grand Rapids,
Mich., which is also the alma mater of the science teacher, Andrew Vanden
Heuvel, school spokeswoman Susan Paprcka said.

It’s extremely rare and I don’t know if an asteroid has ever been discovered by
high school students before, Vanden Heuvel said. Ninety-nine percent are
discovered by professional researchers.

Calvin College has telescopes located in New Mexico that operate remotely and
can be controlled over the Internet. Vanden Heuvel explained that the telescopes
take digital pictures of the sky -- about one per hour for four hours each
night. The students watched the photos as if they were watching a movie in slow
motion, keeping close eye on what changes were taking place in the sky.

The asteroid must be observed two nights in a row in order for it to be
considered an official discovery, Vanden Heuvel said.

Asteroids are not easy to spot,Mr. Vanden Heuvel said. They are very faint,
about 10,000 times fainter than the faintest thing you can see with your naked
eyes. You need to know how to look for them.

He estimates that the 2008 AZ28 asteroid takes approximately five years to orbit
the sun.

The students also located other potential objects that may be asteroids, and are
currently conducting follow-up research.
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[meteorite-list] Berthoud

2008-01-16 Thread Mike Bandli
Very nice! I love the layer of crust. Was any of Berthoud made available to 
collectors?

Mike

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[meteorite-list] Asteroid Impacts May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics

2008-01-16 Thread Paul
Meteor Pelting May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics
Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/10/meteors-earth.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/10/meteors-earth-print.html

Hansen , V. L., 2007, Subduction origin on early Earth: A hypothesis.
Geology. vol. 35, no. 12, pp.  1059–1062 

http://www.gsajournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstractdoi=10.1130%2FG24202A.1

Yours,

Paul H.


  

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[meteorite-list] AD: Special - a new fresh CM2 and the 1st non-Antarctic CM1

2008-01-16 Thread Martin Altmann

Dear Collectors,

Chladni’s Heirs decided to herald the new year with a beat of the drum
in making a representative of an established type for the first time
available to the collector:
NWA 4765
The first CM1 outside of Antarctica.

A glance into the Bulletin Database teaches us, that so far 12 tiny stones,
some of them paired, were found in Antarctica
with a combined tkw of a mere 105grams.

We are well aware of the importance of the new find, especially for the
type-collectors, who wished for years to fill the gap left of Murchison in
their showcases,
Alas, here the dilemma starts:  Like the Antarctic CM1, NWA 4765 was a
small, fresh stone of only 19grams
and by far we won’t be able to comply with all requests.

Find the few available specimens and the detailed description on our Special
page.
Prices for slices are 1250$/g.

http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa5037-nwa4765.html

For the unlikely case, that the main mass won’t be sold, exists the
possibility, that we could slice it up and will retrieve a few more slices.
Therefore, if you find the other slices already sold out, let us immediately
know, whether you want to apply for another specimen.

The second part of our special is perhaps not so sensational as the first,
but nevertheless isn’t half bad: 

NWA 5037
A new and fresh CM2.

Spoiled from the good availability of Murchison, we’re surprised, how stingy
the hot deserts are in bringing forward CM2 to the collectorship:  If we let
Dho 735 as metamorphosed CM aside, there were in the recent decade not more
than 7 CM2s recovered in the hot deserts with a total weight of slightly
below 2kgs, whereof only Acfer 331 is at present available without
difficulties.

NWA 5037
is with a weathering degree of W0/1 a wonderfully fresh meteorite, the 3
fragments of that find displayed partially still some fusion crust.
As you can see, it is a CM2 of a very classic habit, an exemplary
representative of his class
and at that price certainly a tempting addition for your collection.
Also here the supply is limited, weighed the stones not more than 65 grams.
In our special are presented all available specimens:
http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa5037-nwa4765.html

Priced at 60-65$/gram
(to serve you best, please tell 2 alterative slices with your order, for the
case, the desired specimen will have already gone).

Now we wish you a peace- and successful 2008 !
Stefan  Martin

Chladni’s Heirs
Munich - Berlin
Fine Meteorites for Science and Collectors






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[meteorite-list] MESSENGER Reveals Mercury in New Detail

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Baalke


The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
Office of Communications and Public Affairs
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Media Contacts: Paulette Campbell
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January 16, 2008

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

MESSENGER REVEALS MERCURY IN NEW DETAIL

As MESSENGER approached Mercury on Jan. 14, the spacecraft's 
Narrow-Angle Camera on the Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS) 
instrument captured a view of the planet's rugged, cratered landscape 
illuminated obliquely by the Sun. See the image at

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=118

The large, shadow-filled, double ringed crater to the upper right was 
glimpsed by Mariner 10 more than three decades ago and named Vivaldi, 
after the Italian composer.  Its outer ring has a diameter of about 
200 kilometers (about 125 miles).

MESSENGER's modern camera has revealed detail that was not well seen 
by Mariner 10, including the broad ancient depression overlapped by 
the lower-left part of the Vivaldi crater.

The MESSENGER science team is in the process of evaluating later 
images snapped from even closer range showing features on the side of 
Mercury never seen by Mariner 10.  It is already clear that 
MESSENGER's superior camera will tell us much that could not be 
resolved even on the side of Mercury viewed by Mariner's vidicon 
camera in the mid-1970s.

This MESSENGER image was taken from a distance of about 18,000 
kilometers (11,000 miles), about 56 minutes before the spacecraft's 
closest encounter with Mercury.  It shows a region roughly 500 
kilometers (300 miles) across, and craters as small as 1 kilometer 
(0.6 mile) can be seen in this image.

Additional information and features from this first flyby will be 
available online at http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/mer_flyby1.html

Check for the latest released images and science results.

MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and 
Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet 
Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet 
closest to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 
2004, and after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a 
yearlong study of its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. 
Solomon, of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, leads the mission 
as Principal Investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied 
Physics Laboratory built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and 
manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA.

   
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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - January 16, 2008

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
January 16, 2008

o Intersecting Graben in Utopia Planitia
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_006500_2200

o Dust-Devil Tracks in Southern Schiaparelli Basin 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_006477_1745

o Colliding Dunes in Meridiani Planum 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_006254_1885

o Intra-Crater Deposits in Nilosyrtis
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_006250_2200

All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.
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Re: [meteorite-list] MESSENGER Reveals Mercury in New Detail

2008-01-16 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:17:49 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

As MESSENGER approached Mercury on Jan. 14, the spacecraft's 
Narrow-Angle Camera on the Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS) 
instrument captured a view of the planet's rugged, cratered landscape 
illuminated obliquely by the Sun. See the image at

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=118

Here's a quick attempt at removing some of the distortion in the raw photo:

http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/tmp/mercury_fixed.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Impacts May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics

2008-01-16 Thread Jerry
Before I read the following links, I'd like to express my unscientific 
opinion about this subject.
I'm sure there are numerous causes for the separation of Pangaea into its 
present configuration, that is, the present continental shapes.
As I became enthralled with the impact hypothesis surrounding the K/T 
event. I mused that Pangaea had been impacted by a string of meteorites 
actually perforating it in some places to trigger the break-up.
As a Northeasterner I mused that, the Baltic, Africa and NE NA, might 
present such a perforation boundary.
As I said earlier, Volcanism and Plate Tectonics [presently I can't think of 
any other causes]  might be sufficient to trigger break-up. Today, 
California and eastern Africa don't seem to need much else.
So, That being said, I'll eagerly return to read the links associated with 
this post. Thanks for your patience.

Jerry Flaherty
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Meteor Pelting May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics
Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/10/meteors-earth.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/10/meteors-earth-print.html

Hansen , V. L., 2007, Subduction origin on early Earth: A hypothesis.
Geology. vol. 35, no. 12, pp.  1059-1062

http://www.gsajournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstractdoi=10.1130%2FG24202A.1

Yours,

Paul H.


 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Impacts May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics

2008-01-16 Thread Jerry
I guess my musings and Vicki Hansen's researched hypothesis aren't related, 
in time anyway.
My musing only takes into account the fact that the Connecticut River 
Valley, 100 miles from the coast, is thought to be the result a collision of 
ancient plate boundaries.
The fact the the much later break-up occurred not there, at the Berkshire 
Mountains margin, but 100+ miles from the CRV,  just made me wonder if 
another mechanism might be at work.
Granted, the coastal region, at least where glacial debris has not cover it 
up, is host to a string of ancient extinct volcanoes 30 miles south of 
Boston through the Canadian Provinces across the Atlantic through the Celtic 
isles into Scandinavia. And the brittle nature of these lavas may be 
provide sufficient explanation for the modern continental configuration 
given appropriate stresses applied through the mechanism of tectonics.

But musing doesn't cost much and cataclysm of the mind doesn't hurt.
Jerry Flaherty
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Meteor Pelting May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics
Larry O'Hanlon, Discovery News

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/10/meteors-earth.html
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/10/meteors-earth-print.html

Hansen , V. L., 2007, Subduction origin on early Earth: A hypothesis.
Geology. vol. 35, no. 12, pp.  1059-1062

http://www.gsajournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstractdoi=10.1130%2FG24202A.1

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[meteorite-list] Pre Tucson Extravaganza Offers - AD

2008-01-16 Thread Greg Hupe

Dear List Members,

I have just re-listed 265 eBay auctions that did not sell after the first 
round or more. I would like to offer List members an excellent opportunity 
to get exceptional material at outstanding values. All of the auctions have 
the Buy it Now feature, so if you see that special something, click and it 
is yours! If the price you see is just not good enough for you, instead of 
going behind closed doors to discuss discounts like at the Tucson Show, make 
me an offer on anything I have, and if not sold in one week, I will consider 
your offer, especially on the large ticket specimens. You never know, you 
may end up with your best deal here instead of going all the way to Tucson!!


To see all that I have listed, click here (Take a look, well worth it even 
if you are not in the market at this time): 
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault


Here is a quick list of what I have listed in order of eBay appearance this 
week:
NWA 4799 True Aubrite (100% Money Back Guarantee that it remains an Aubrite 
classification, already priced the best I can do!)

NWA 4883 Maskelynite-rich Eucrite (Last 12 pieces)
NWA 4930 Shergottite (Paired to NWA 2795)
NWA 2995 Lunar (Three pieces, two best at very end of list)
NWA 1068 Shergottite
NWA 1950 Lherzolitic Shergottite (Only two pieces left)
NWA 4527 Shergottite (Last two pieces)
NWA 3161 LL3.7 (Outstanding Chondrules!)
NWA 2952 CK4 (Gorgeous)
NWA 4801 Angrite (Simply the Best!)
NWA 4478 Brecciated Lodranite (World's First Brecciated)
NWA 4468 Primitive Shergottite (Fresh, Fresh, Fresh!!!)
NWA 4590 Tamassint Angrite (Fresh and Beautiful)
NWA 4587 Ungrouped (Paired to NWA 011)
NWA 4473 Brecciated Diogenite (Lunar Looking)
Mali
Bassikounou
NWA 4528 H5 500-gram lots
Unclassified 2-kilo Lots
NWA 869 1-kilo lots
Amgala (Oum Dreyga)
Dhofar 950 Lunar
Gao
NWA 3160 Lunar
NWA 3171 Shergottite
NWA 2995 Lunar (Last but not least, two of the best slices available, one 
polished!)


Don't be shy with your offers, you never know how nice I will be ;-) In some 
cases the listed price is the best I can do because of high acquisition 
costs. In these cases, if you see what you must have, bid and win so you 
don't hesitate and lose it to another collector.


I will be out of town on a short expedition from Thursday 17th through the 
22nd so I will not be able to answer any questions during that time. If you 
see what you like and feel the price is right, click it quick as someone 
else may want it also. I will consider all offers when I get back and answer 
all emails. If you need to make special payment plan arrangements for the 
more expensive items, let me know what you have in mind and I may be able to 
accommodate you.


Best regards and Thank You for looking and/or bidding!
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

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[meteorite-list] CM1 is sold out

2008-01-16 Thread Martin Altmann
The CM1 has gone completely.
No piece available any longer.

Thank you,
Martin

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[meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

2008-01-16 Thread Ron Baalke

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_16_08_2.html

MESSENGER Mission News
January 16, 2008 [Evening Update]

Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

Detailed Close-up of Mercury's Previously Unseen Surface

Just 21 minutes after MESSENGER's closest approach to Mercury on January
14, 2008, the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) took this picture
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=119
showing a variety of intriguing surface features, including craters as
small as about 300 meters (about 300 yards) across.

This is one of a set of 68 NAC images showing landscapes near Mercury's
equator on the side of the planet never before imaged by spacecraft.
From such highly detailed close-ups, planetary geologists can study the
processes that have shaped Mercury's surface over the past 4 billion years.

One of the highest and longest scarps (cliffs) yet seen on Mercury
curves from the top center down across the right side of this image.
(The Sun is shining low from the left, so the scarp casts a wide
shadow.) Great forces in Mercury's crust have thrust the terrain
occupying the left two-thirds of the picture up and over the terrain to
the right. An impact crater has subsequently destroyed a small part of
the scarp near the top of the image.

This image was taken from a distance of only 5,800 kilometers (3,600
miles) from surface of the planet and shows a region about 170
kilometers (about 100 miles) across.

Mercury's Cratered Surface

During its flyby of Mercury, the MESSENGER spacecraft acquired
high-resolution images of the planet's surface. This image
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=120,
taken by the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) on the Mercury Dual Imaging
System (MDIS), was obtained on January 14, 2008, about 37 minutes after
MESSENGER's closest approach to the planet. The image reveals the
surface of Mercury at a resolution of about 360 meters/pixel (about
1,180 feet/pixel), and the width of the image is about 370 kilometers
(about 230 miles).

This image is the 98th in a set of 99 images that were taken in a
pattern of 9 rows and 11 columns to enable the creation of a large,
high-resolution mosaic of the northeast quarter of the region not seen
by Mariner 10. During the encounter with Mercury, the MDIS acquired
image sets for seven large mosaics with the NAC.

This image shows a previously unseen crater with distinctive bright rays
of ejected material extending radially outward from the crater's center.
A chain of craters nearby is also visible. Studying impact craters
provides insight into the history and composition of Mercury as well as
dynamical processes that occurred throughout our Solar System. The
MESSENGER Science Team has begun analyzing these high-resolution images
to unravel these fundamental questions.



MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and
Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet
Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest
to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and
after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study of
its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie
Institution of Washington, leads the mission as principal investigator. 
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and 
operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery -class 
mission for NASA.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

2008-01-16 Thread Jerry

Do the bright rays indicate a more recent impact?
Jerry Flaherty
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Mercury





http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_16_08_2.html

MESSENGER Mission News
January 16, 2008 [Evening Update]

Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

Detailed Close-up of Mercury's Previously Unseen Surface

Just 21 minutes after MESSENGER's closest approach to Mercury on January
14, 2008, the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) took this picture
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=119
showing a variety of intriguing surface features, including craters as
small as about 300 meters (about 300 yards) across.

This is one of a set of 68 NAC images showing landscapes near Mercury's
equator on the side of the planet never before imaged by spacecraft.

From such highly detailed close-ups, planetary geologists can study the
processes that have shaped Mercury's surface over the past 4 billion 
years.


One of the highest and longest scarps (cliffs) yet seen on Mercury
curves from the top center down across the right side of this image.
(The Sun is shining low from the left, so the scarp casts a wide
shadow.) Great forces in Mercury's crust have thrust the terrain
occupying the left two-thirds of the picture up and over the terrain to
the right. An impact crater has subsequently destroyed a small part of
the scarp near the top of the image.

This image was taken from a distance of only 5,800 kilometers (3,600
miles) from surface of the planet and shows a region about 170
kilometers (about 100 miles) across.

Mercury's Cratered Surface

During its flyby of Mercury, the MESSENGER spacecraft acquired
high-resolution images of the planet's surface. This image
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=120,
taken by the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) on the Mercury Dual Imaging
System (MDIS), was obtained on January 14, 2008, about 37 minutes after
MESSENGER's closest approach to the planet. The image reveals the
surface of Mercury at a resolution of about 360 meters/pixel (about
1,180 feet/pixel), and the width of the image is about 370 kilometers
(about 230 miles).

This image is the 98th in a set of 99 images that were taken in a
pattern of 9 rows and 11 columns to enable the creation of a large,
high-resolution mosaic of the northeast quarter of the region not seen
by Mariner 10. During the encounter with Mercury, the MDIS acquired
image sets for seven large mosaics with the NAC.

This image shows a previously unseen crater with distinctive bright rays
of ejected material extending radially outward from the crater's center.
A chain of craters nearby is also visible. Studying impact craters
provides insight into the history and composition of Mercury as well as
dynamical processes that occurred throughout our Solar System. The
MESSENGER Science Team has begun analyzing these high-resolution images
to unravel these fundamental questions.



MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and
Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet
Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest
to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and
after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study of
its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie
Institution of Washington, leads the mission as principal investigator.
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and
operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery -class
mission for NASA.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

2008-01-16 Thread lebofsky
Jerry:

Yes, bright rays indicate younger craters. When the crater is created,
some of the rock is shock melted, forming a glassy material that we see as
the bright ray eminating from the impact site.

Larry

On Wed, January 16, 2008 7:55 pm, Jerry wrote:
 Do the bright rays indicate a more recent impact?
 Jerry Flaherty
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 From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Mercury




 http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_16_08_2.html


 MESSENGER Mission News
 January 16, 2008 [Evening Update]


 Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury


 Detailed Close-up of Mercury's Previously Unseen Surface


 Just 21 minutes after MESSENGER's closest approach to Mercury on
 January
 14, 2008, the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) took this picture
 http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=
 2image_id=119
 showing a variety of intriguing surface features, including craters as
 small as about 300 meters (about 300 yards) across.

 This is one of a set of 68 NAC images showing landscapes near Mercury's
  equator on the side of the planet never before imaged by spacecraft.
 From such highly detailed close-ups, planetary geologists can study
 the
 processes that have shaped Mercury's surface over the past 4 billion
 years.

 One of the highest and longest scarps (cliffs) yet seen on Mercury
 curves from the top center down across the right side of this image. (The
 Sun is shining low from the left, so the scarp casts a wide
 shadow.) Great forces in Mercury's crust have thrust the terrain
 occupying the left two-thirds of the picture up and over the terrain to
  the right. An impact crater has subsequently destroyed a small part of
  the scarp near the top of the image.

 This image was taken from a distance of only 5,800 kilometers (3,600
 miles) from surface of the planet and shows a region about 170 kilometers
 (about 100 miles) across.


 Mercury's Cratered Surface


 During its flyby of Mercury, the MESSENGER spacecraft acquired
 high-resolution images of the planet's surface. This image
 http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id
 =2image_id=120,
 taken by the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) on the Mercury Dual Imaging System
 (MDIS), was obtained on January 14, 2008, about 37 minutes after
 MESSENGER's closest approach to the planet. The image reveals the
 surface of Mercury at a resolution of about 360 meters/pixel (about 1,180
 feet/pixel), and the width of the image is about 370 kilometers (about
 230 miles).


 This image is the 98th in a set of 99 images that were taken in a
 pattern of 9 rows and 11 columns to enable the creation of a large,
 high-resolution mosaic of the northeast quarter of the region not seen
 by Mariner 10. During the encounter with Mercury, the MDIS acquired
 image sets for seven large mosaics with the NAC.

 This image shows a previously unseen crater with distinctive bright
 rays of ejected material extending radially outward from the crater's
 center. A chain of craters nearby is also visible. Studying impact
 craters provides insight into the history and composition of Mercury as
 well as dynamical processes that occurred throughout our Solar System.
 The
 MESSENGER Science Team has begun analyzing these high-resolution images
 to unravel these fundamental questions.

 ---
 -


 MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and
 Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet
 Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest
  to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and
 after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study
 of its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie
  Institution of Washington, leads the mission as principal
 investigator. The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory
 built and operates the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery
 -class
 mission for NASA.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flybyof Mercury

2008-01-16 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, Jerry,

That is the received wisdom derived from study of
our Moon, that bright rayed craters are fresher. I would
think that it would be truer on Mercury than the Moon,
as the UV intensity and the strength of the solar wind
should darken them faster. You could probably get a
great tan and a light microwaving in no time on Mercury.

There are a multitude of teeny craters like freckles
and lots of very crisp small craters, while most of
the medium and large craters do not look fresh. In the
very first closeup picture released, there was a good sized
crater with a brighter fresher crater 60% of its size almost
dead center inside of it!

How many impacts that size do you have to have to
get two shots on dead center? Lots. I've been flipping
through pictures of other surfaces to see if I can find
another example like that and, so far, I can't. The crater-
counters will have a field day!

It's also surprising how many linear crater alignments
there are. There will be a repeat of the arguments from
lunar days of whether they are Shoemaker-Levy-style
multi-impact chains or collapsed lava tubes.

Mercury only looks like the Moon at a casual glance.
Even in the old Videcon TV pictures of Mariner 10,
it looked strange. In these closer, much more detailed
images, it looks even stranger. Lots of collapse features.
There may be more vulcanism than we think likely.

Ah! There's a good argument!


Sterling K. Webb

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flybyof 
Mercury


Do the bright rays indicate a more recent impact?
Jerry Flaherty
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From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:36 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of
Mercury



 http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_16_08_2.html

 MESSENGER Mission News
 January 16, 2008 [Evening Update]

 Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

 Detailed Close-up of Mercury's Previously Unseen Surface

 Just 21 minutes after MESSENGER's closest approach to Mercury on January
 14, 2008, the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) took this picture
 http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=119
 showing a variety of intriguing surface features, including craters as
 small as about 300 meters (about 300 yards) across.

 This is one of a set of 68 NAC images showing landscapes near Mercury's
 equator on the side of the planet never before imaged by spacecraft.
From such highly detailed close-ups, planetary geologists can study the
 processes that have shaped Mercury's surface over the past 4 billion
 years.

 One of the highest and longest scarps (cliffs) yet seen on Mercury
 curves from the top center down across the right side of this image.
 (The Sun is shining low from the left, so the scarp casts a wide
 shadow.) Great forces in Mercury's crust have thrust the terrain
 occupying the left two-thirds of the picture up and over the terrain to
 the right. An impact crater has subsequently destroyed a small part of
 the scarp near the top of the image.

 This image was taken from a distance of only 5,800 kilometers (3,600
 miles) from surface of the planet and shows a region about 170
 kilometers (about 100 miles) across.

 Mercury's Cratered Surface

 During its flyby of Mercury, the MESSENGER spacecraft acquired
 high-resolution images of the planet's surface. This image
 http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=120,
 taken by the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) on the Mercury Dual Imaging
 System (MDIS), was obtained on January 14, 2008, about 37 minutes after
 MESSENGER's closest approach to the planet. The image reveals the
 surface of Mercury at a resolution of about 360 meters/pixel (about
 1,180 feet/pixel), and the width of the image is about 370 kilometers
 (about 230 miles).

 This image is the 98th in a set of 99 images that were taken in a
 pattern of 9 rows and 11 columns to enable the creation of a large,
 high-resolution mosaic of the northeast quarter of the region not seen
 by Mariner 10. During the encounter with Mercury, the MDIS acquired
 image sets for seven large mosaics with the NAC.

 This image shows a previously unseen crater with distinctive bright rays
 of ejected material extending radially outward from the crater's center.
 A chain of craters nearby is also visible. Studying impact craters
 provides insight into the history and composition of Mercury as well as
 dynamical processes that occurred throughout our Solar System. The
 MESSENGER Science Team has begun analyzing these 

[meteorite-list] I am home after nearly three week trip.

2008-01-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Hi list members, after more than two weeks in the
field with no email access, I am finally home. It will
take me some time to start weeding out the emails, so
if you emailed me, give me a chance to catch up.
Tucson is just about 10 days away, so things will get
very busy here.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First FlybyofMercury

2008-01-16 Thread Jerry

collapse lava tubes as opposed to impact chains [oh darn]
Jerry Flaherty
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To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First 
FlybyofMercury




Hi, Jerry,

   That is the received wisdom derived from study of
our Moon, that bright rayed craters are fresher. I would
think that it would be truer on Mercury than the Moon,
as the UV intensity and the strength of the solar wind
should darken them faster. You could probably get a
great tan and a light microwaving in no time on Mercury.

   There are a multitude of teeny craters like freckles
and lots of very crisp small craters, while most of
the medium and large craters do not look fresh. In the
very first closeup picture released, there was a good sized
crater with a brighter fresher crater 60% of its size almost
dead center inside of it!

   How many impacts that size do you have to have to
get two shots on dead center? Lots. I've been flipping
through pictures of other surfaces to see if I can find
another example like that and, so far, I can't. The crater-
counters will have a field day!

   It's also surprising how many linear crater alignments
there are. There will be a repeat of the arguments from
lunar days of whether they are Shoemaker-Levy-style
multi-impact chains or collapsed lava tubes.

   Mercury only looks like the Moon at a casual glance.
Even in the old Videcon TV pictures of Mariner 10,
it looked strange. In these closer, much more detailed
images, it looks even stranger. Lots of collapse features.
There may be more vulcanism than we think likely.

   Ah! There's a good argument!


Sterling K. Webb

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First 
Flybyof

Mercury


Do the bright rays indicate a more recent impact?
Jerry Flaherty
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From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:36 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of
Mercury




http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/status_report_01_16_08_2.html

MESSENGER Mission News
January 16, 2008 [Evening Update]

Two New Images from MESSENGER's First Flyby of Mercury

Detailed Close-up of Mercury's Previously Unseen Surface

Just 21 minutes after MESSENGER's closest approach to Mercury on January
14, 2008, the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) took this picture
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=119
showing a variety of intriguing surface features, including craters as
small as about 300 meters (about 300 yards) across.

This is one of a set of 68 NAC images showing landscapes near Mercury's
equator on the side of the planet never before imaged by spacecraft.

From such highly detailed close-ups, planetary geologists can study the

processes that have shaped Mercury's surface over the past 4 billion
years.

One of the highest and longest scarps (cliffs) yet seen on Mercury
curves from the top center down across the right side of this image.
(The Sun is shining low from the left, so the scarp casts a wide
shadow.) Great forces in Mercury's crust have thrust the terrain
occupying the left two-thirds of the picture up and over the terrain to
the right. An impact crater has subsequently destroyed a small part of
the scarp near the top of the image.

This image was taken from a distance of only 5,800 kilometers (3,600
miles) from surface of the planet and shows a region about 170
kilometers (about 100 miles) across.

Mercury's Cratered Surface

During its flyby of Mercury, the MESSENGER spacecraft acquired
high-resolution images of the planet's surface. This image
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/gallery/sciencePhotos/image.php?gallery_id=2image_id=120,
taken by the Narrow Angle Camera (NAC) on the Mercury Dual Imaging
System (MDIS), was obtained on January 14, 2008, about 37 minutes after
MESSENGER's closest approach to the planet. The image reveals the
surface of Mercury at a resolution of about 360 meters/pixel (about
1,180 feet/pixel), and the width of the image is about 370 kilometers
(about 230 miles).

This image is the 98th in a set of 99 images that were taken in a
pattern of 9 rows and 11 columns to enable the creation of a large,
high-resolution mosaic of the northeast quarter of the region not seen
by Mariner 10. During the encounter with Mercury, the MDIS acquired
image sets for seven large mosaics with the NAC.

This image 

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Impacts May Have Triggered Plate Tectonics(OT)

2008-01-16 Thread Mr EMan
 There is no evidence-- direct or inferred-- that the trace of the
eastern shoreline of North America is impact influenced.  While much of
what you relate is sequentially correct it co-mingles 700+ million
years of geological history into a related event.  The Connecticut
River  Valley is a rift valley and not a collision boundary--Otherwise
it wouldn't be a Valley but the Connecticut River Mountains


Perhaps you would like to Muse this: Avalonia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalonia

And this link for the origins of the CRV Lava flows
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/LivingWith/VolcanicPast/Places/volcanic_past_massachusetts.html

The lava flow, now seen as prominent ridgelines overlooking the valley
lowlands, formed as basalt oozed out of faults associated with the
Eastern Border Fault ...  the Connecticut Valley sequence is determined
to be early Mesozoic -- from late Triassic through early Jurassic
Periods. Between 190 and 194 my North America and Baltica rifted and
basalt erupted from where Patterson NJ lies now, through The Pallasides
on the Hudson up through the Conneticut River Valley on through the
Berkshires. This rift zone accumulated several hundred feet of basalt. 
Here is what is said by the USGS CVO page:

 Elton
--- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...My musing only takes into account the fact that the Connecticut
River Valley, 100 miles from the coast, is thought to be the result a
collision of ancient plate boundaries. The fact the the much later
break-up occurred not there, at the Berkshire Mountains margin, but
100+ miles from the CRV, just made me wonder if another mechanism might
be at work. Granted, the coastal region, at least where glacial debris
has not cover it up, is host to a string of ancient extinct volcanoes
30 miles south of Boston through the Canadian Provinces across the
Atlantic through the Celtic isles into Scandinavia. And the brittle
nature of these lavas may be provide sufficient explanation for the
modern continental configuration given appropriate stresses applied
through the mechanism of tectonics. But musing doesn't cost much and
cataclysm of the mind doesn't hurt.
 Jerry Flaherty
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