[meteorite-list] Meteorite Parent Bodies
Hello, Meteorite Parent Bodies, Meteorites represent a picture into our past solar system. Some shed more light on the past than others. Both carbonaceous chondrites and ordinary chondrites (which are anything but ordinary) have been called the rosetta stones of the solar system. Chondrites ARE unique specimens which represent a jumbled up assortment of nebular dust, metallic particles, and organic muck that holds the key to unlocking the secrets of the solar system. Chondrites are primitive matter that have escaped both severe geological processes, radioactive decay or simply differentiation. This requires a smaller parent body where processes of this nature didn't occur and impacts that were small enough that the material wasn't changed (so it could be delivered to Earth). Although the study of meteorites dates back to the eighteenth century, really much of our understanding of meteorites comes more from the mid 1900's when better scientific means were applied. In 1959 the first pictures taken by multiple cameras (and by accident) were taken of the fireball of an H5 meteorite that was later found and linking the meteorites to the asteroid belt. The name of this meteorite was Pribram. Several other networks also took shots of other fireballs coming down so they could be tracked down and plotted. The names of these were Lost City, OK, Farminton, Innisfree, and Dhajala. All plotting back to the asteroid belt which suggested they were material coming from the asteroid belt and possible remnants. Comets have also been suggested to be sources for some meteorites but a few problems exist to determine this. First very little is know about comets (though we are just now finding out more) Two no photographs from a network of cameras of material has been taken to show a relationship of material to comets. The streaks of light during a meteor shower represent only minor particles the size of dust or perhaps a bit larger. So currently the jury is still out on pinning meteorite falls to known comets or cometary debris. Another way to confirm the ordinary chondrite and asteroid connection has been through spectra. By comparing the absorption bands taken by telescopes using a prism, the various components (chemical make up) of asteroids can be compared to meteorites. In a number of cases there are excellent matches. Such matches have been made for asteroid 44, Nysa and the main aubrite family, 4 Vesta and the eucrites, diogentites and howardites, 433 erros and the L4 chondrites, 16 psyche and the E4's, and 1 Ceres and the CM2 chondrites. Source: Meteorites and Their Parent Planets, by Harry Y. McSween Jr. --AL Mitterling __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Parent Bodies
Hello AL; Thanks for the post and for taking the time to post such informative information to this great list.This post was a huge reminder to some of us and info.needed by new members as to why we are so enthused by materials from space.Thanks again. Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bob Verish's LA 002 Basaltic Shergottite
Hello Bob, List and Lovers of Martians ;-) Wow, when I came home from school today, I found the package with my two LA002 micros - #6 and #12 - on the kitchen table. See here because it is a must see and because a few small pieces are still available if you are quick: http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/saw-cuttings/la-saw.htm When I saw Bob's LA002 offer, I was immediately fascinated and captivated by specimens #6 and #12 because of that gorgeous maskelynite crystal you can see in the photo and because of that shock-induced melt pocket. When I looked at the two tiny Martians under the microscope, I noticed the images were a bit blurred. Oh well, ...I was so excited when I put the two pieces under my microscope that I had forgotten to remove the protective plastic lens cover from the objective lens :-( After removing that protective cover, the LA002 Martians revealed their true glory and I can tell you the pictures on Bob's website don't do these treasures justice! Not only does #6 have *one* maskelynite crystal, it is graced all over with glassy, limpid maskelynite. Breathtaking view! The shock-induced melt pocket in #12 (probably type 2* and measuring ca. 2.5 x 2.5 mm) is jet-black, vesicular, bubbly and looks very much like Australasian tektite glass or like compact bubbly, frothy glass from the Ries Crater, Germany (locality: Zipplingen). * Reference: WALTON E.L.et al.(2002) Mineralogy and microtextures of melt pockets in the Los Angeles basaltic shergottite (MAPS 37-7, 2002, p. A146). I don't have to tell you how glad and how lucky I feel about being able to add these two Martian beauties to my collection. Thank you, Bob, thanks a lot! Best wishes, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid models Where can I get some?
Hi List, About 4 years ago some one was selling on eBay resin models of asteroids. I bought Toutatis but only the one model because I thought they were easily replaceable toys. Does any one know what I am talking about? It has JPL and NASA on the sides. I would like to get others and there were others for sale at the time. Any one have any they are willing to sell? Thanks, Tom Phillips **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 29, 2008
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_29_2008.html Michael Johnson www.spacerocksinc.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid models Where can I get some?
Try http://www.serradesignsinc.com/ast_models.htm. These are the ones that we use at the Spaceguard Centre. Jay Tate The Spaceguard Centre - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 6:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Asteroid models Where can I get some? Hi List, About 4 years ago some one was selling on eBay resin models of asteroids. I bought Toutatis but only the one model because I thought they were easily replaceable toys. Does any one know what I am talking about? It has JPL and NASA on the sides. I would like to get others and there were others for sale at the time. Any one have any they are willing to sell? Thanks, Tom Phillips **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.15/1249 - Release Date: 29/01/2008 09:51 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid models Where can I get some?
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:11:24 EST, you wrote: Hi List, About 4 years ago some one was selling on eBay resin models of asteroids. I bought Toutatis but only the one model because I thought they were easily replaceable toys. Does any one know what I am talking about? It has JPL and NASA on the sides. I would like to get others and there were others for sale at the time. Very first hit: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=asteroid+models links to this: http://www.someoddsandends.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=3_7 http://www.someoddsandends.com/index.php?main_page=indexcPath=3_5 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 5000: pics of slices were nice....but
can we please have a look at some pics of the main mass Greg.I'm dying to see the cut face of such a sizable lump.The slice in the caliper is my new desktop wallpaper,what a beaut All the best JB __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 5000: pics of slices were nice....but
Hi Jim and List Members, I will be posting pictures of the world's largest lunar slice tomorrow with a major surprise so stay tuned. The main mass weight has to be certified after being brought back to the dryness it was on the Moon. This will require some vacuum chamber work before any images will be available, however the complete slice is ready. Best Regards, Adam --- jim brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can we please have a look at some pics of the main mass Greg.I'm dying to see the cut face of such a sizable lump.The slice in the caliper is my new desktop wallpaper,what a beaut All the best JB __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Special NWA 5038 L6-IMB NWA 4927 elegant CV3
Dear collectors, for this week's Special we chose two less pricy but nevertheless illustrative meteorites, hence by all means suitable also for a not yet so advanced collection. First is the fine L6 impact melt breccia (IMB) NWA 5038. IMBs tell us about the tumultuous and violent scenes on the surfaces of asteroids, which we else are watching in TV-documentations so peacefully drifting through space. IMBs are products of high energetic, crater building impacts on asteroids. The pressures at such major impacts exceed 90 GPa, so that the rock beneath the crater floor will be heftily fragmented and will partially or totally melt. IMBs range beyond the usual shock scale (that S2, S3 ect. you find given with the data of most meteorites). Such a scenario you'll have petrified in our NWA 5038. Fragments of the original chondritic L6-rock, often having lost their structure, are embedded like loose jigsaw pieces in a black melt. This IMB is such a stone, which strongly looses contrast if grinded, so we let the slices unpolished. Prices vary between 3$ and 3.5$/g depending on size. Here you are: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa5038.html Perhaps a remark, of course such impacts aren't restricted to chondritic asteroids. How such impact-products look on Vesta, you can observe here with an eucritic IMB: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/nwa5036-3.432g.jpg (NWA 5036, tkw 53g, - last slice for sale) Second offer of our Special holds the line of our carbonaceous series. After CKs, CM1, CM2 we present today with NWA 4927 an elegant CV3. It displays the whole glut of various chondrules, wherefor the type-3-addicted love the CV3s, as well as fine CAIs. (Note especially that one on the edge with more than 1cm across.) Perhaps also for the newer collectors - CAIs are the white, irregular shaped inclusion, they are the first solid matter of our solar system. NWA 4927 is very weakly shocked (S2) and with W2 fresher than the average CV3s, like for instance the very popular NWA 3118 with its dozens of pairings. Rule of thumb: The more black, the less brown you see in a CV3, the fresher it is. Today we offer a set of fullslices with crust and an expertly polish. It will take you only an instance of googling to find comparable material priced between 20-30$/g, but a Special is special - so we say 10$/g. http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa4927.html All the best, Stefan Ralew Martin Altmann Chladni's Heirs Munich - Berlin Fine Meteorites for Science Collectors __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Parent Bodies
Absolutely agree! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Parent Bodies Hello AL; Thanks for the post and for taking the time to post such informative information to this great list.This post was a huge reminder to some of us and info.needed by new members as to why we are so enthused by materials from space.Thanks again. Herman Archer IMCA # 2770 **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] THANKS!!! Re: Asteroid models Where can I get some?
Thanks every one. The link several members sent me is correct. These things are cool. I plan to get the set. There are 13 (so far). I plan to place meteorites next to their presumed paired asteroid parents in the show case. Tom In a message dated 1/29/2008 12:17:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe this? http://www.serradesignsinc.com/ast_models.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:11 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Asteroid models Where can I get some? Hi List, About 4 years ago some one was selling on eBay resin models of asteroids. I bought Toutatis but only the one model because I thought they were easily replaceable toys. Does any one know what I am talking about? It has JPL and NASA on the sides. I would like to get others and there were others for sale at the time. Any one have any they are willing to sell? Thanks, Tom Phillips **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid 2007 TU24 Zooms by Earth
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2008-014a Asteroid Zooms by Earth Jet Propulsion Laboratory January 29, 2008 As expected, Asteroid 2007 TU24 made its closest approach to Earth at 12:33 a.m. today, Jan. 29 (3:33 a.m. Eastern time), and is now headed away from our planet. At its closest point, the asteroid was 554,209 kilometers (344,370 miles) from Earth, or roughly 1.4 times the distance between the moon and Earth. Scientists at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. had tracked the asteroid in advance and determined that there was no possibility of an impact. The rare close approach is providing a bonanza for scientists, who plan to scrutinize images and data gathered in hopes of learning more about our solar system's closest neighbors - near-Earth asteroids. More observations are planned for Feb. 1 through 4 using the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico. The observatory is operated by Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., for the National Science Foundation. Media contact: Contact: DC Agle 818-393-9011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grey Hautaluoma 202-358-0668 Headquarters, Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Image] This radar image of 2007 TU24 was obtained on January 28, 2008, about 12 hours before the asteroid's 1.4-lunar-distance pass by the Earth. The Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico and the Greenbank Telescope in West Virginia were used to take this image. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bits-o-spysat may hit North America
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[meteorite-list] Few Photos Tucson show
Hello List I just took a few photo's today between moves. Mike Farmer still setting up today, http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008c004.jpg Moritz Karl is just about set up, in Farmer room. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008c09.jpg Jim Strope got a new beautiful Sikhote-Alin, Jim wash his hands first. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc022.jpg http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008cc019.jpg Jim Showing it to Al Langheinrich http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008c025.jpg Han's room with only a few campo's set up now. http://www.geocities.com/arizonaviking2000/Tucsonshow2008c030.jpg Hope you all enjoy, I'm taking to only a few this years. Keith V Chandler AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Few Photos Tucson show
Thank you for making us sorry for not being there! ;-) I mean, thank you Arizona Keith for letting us who won't be there this year have a little inside into the show! :-) This is an awesome, beautiful Sikhote-Alin. Looks like a little acorn! With best regards, Moni _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 30, 2008
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/January_30_2008.html Michael Johnson www.spacerocksinc.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Announcing the Oscar Monnig Meteorite Collection Catalog
Dear Listees: It is with great pleasure that I announce the publication of: THE OSCAR E. MONNIG METEORITE COLLECTION CATALOG By Dr. Arthur J. Ehlmann Curator of the Monnig Collection Published by Stanegate Press, LLC 8 3/4 x 11 1/8 inches 192 pages 32 original color photographs More than sixty pages of rare historic documents from the Monnig archives, including letters from H.H. Nininger and secret field correspondence Exclusive never-before-seen portraits and field photos A complete catalog of the collection New essays by Dr. Arthur Ehlmann and Geoffrey Notkin Only 1,000 copies have been printed Of those there is a strictly limited edition of 100 deluxe copies signed and numbered by Dr. Ehlmann, in a custom white linen slipcase, accompanied by an exclusive custom print of a vintage portrait photo of Oscar Monnig ** I have been at work on this project for fourteen months, and our colleagues Art Ehlmann, and legendary meteorite dealer David New have been involved with it for much longer than that. Although in recent years we have been treated to fine meteorite catalogs by Jim Schwade, Marvin Killgore, and Bob Haag, I believe this to be the first major meteorite museum catalog since Monica Grady's Catalogue of Meteorites from the year 2000. There are three different editions available for sale (1,000 copies total press run) Details here: http://www.aerolite.org/monnig-catalog.htm This has been a labor of love for all involved, and we have made this the most beautiful book we could. Rather than just compile a list of meteorite numbers and weights, we have attempted to create a fitting testament to one of the greatest meteorite collectors of all time. I am thrilled with the results, and I hope you will be too. Copies can be ordered online and will also be available for sale at two locations during the Tucson Gem and Mineral Show: - Room 230 at the InnSuites (Aerolite Meteorites Impactika) from Feb. 2 through 16 - At Michael Blood's auction, Saturday February 9 ** PUBLICATION PARTY ** - You are invited to meet author and curator, Dr. Arthur Ehlmann and view or purchase copies of the catalog: Saturday, February 9, 2008 Room 230 InnSuites Hotel, Tucson 2 pm Champagne will be served ** THE MONNIG CATALOG #1 ** The Monnig Collection Catalog #1 of 100, signed by Dr. Ehlmann will be auctioned by Michael Blood on Saturday, Feb. 9, in Tucson Details: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction08.html In addition to this highly collectible #1 of the deluxe signed edition, the lot includes a beautiful uncut cover flat (front + back + spine), signed by the designer (that's me). There are ONLY FOUR cover flats in existence. The flat includes printer's bars, registration marks, and at 23 x 14 1/2 inches will make a lovely framed piece. This is no minimum bid for this lot RESERVING COPIES A few numbered editions have already been reserved for people directly involved with the project. To reserve your own signed and numbered copy, please email me with: - Your preferred number between 7 and 100 - An alternate number OR, if you would like the lowest number available, please just include LNA with your email request. All reservation requests will be processed in the order received, and all requests will be confirmed by email. If you will be in Tucson and want a numbered edition, you may reserve by email, and pick up in person. This was an expensive and time consuming project, and we have no intention of publishing a second edition. If you wish to own a copy, please reserve quickly to avoid disappointment. Questions welcome, and thank you for your interest. Sincerely, Geoff N. Aerolite Meteorites Stanegate Press Tucson, AZ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list