[meteorite-list] AD - GREAT AUCTIONS - NO RESERVES!
Dear List Members, Out of respect for the one advertisement per week rule, I only post about every other week not wanting to waste bandwidth so please check out this week's offerings, you will not be disappointed . I have several outstanding auctions ending today, tomorrow and Wednesday afternoon. Included in this week's assortment are a few great part slices of Northwest Africa 5000, wholesale priced bulk lots of pendants and a few sizable slices of legally obtained Dhofar Planetary material with no reserve due to end in a few hours. I am running all of the Northwest Africa 5000 pendants at once so if you have a gift shop, want to pass them out as presents or want to sell some as singles, there is plenty of room for margin. More than 100 item are currently running, most started at just 99 cents with no reserve. All of the auctions can be seen at this link: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZraremeteorites Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck. Best Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - eBay auctions closing shortly
Greetings All I have a few auctions closing in a few hours, including A nicely crusted martian shergottite individual currently at $82/gm Molong pallasite at less than $10/gm an Allende like CV3 NWA 2141 that is NOT paired with NWA 3118 A nice moldavite at less than $0.45/gm very fresh individuals of Bassikounou and Erg Chech and others.See them all at http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=katy2kary -- Eric Olson 7682 Firethorn Dr Fayetteville, NC 28311 http://www.star-bits.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio
Hi Michael, According to Encyclopedia of Meteorites, A 4310 g stone was found ~40 cm underground by a man digging out a tree stump in his yard. I would think this would be the weight when it was found. Here's the link. http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/T_Meteoriteview.asp?key=37881 It appears that a couple of list members own pieces. Perhaps they have more info. Hope this helps. Best regards, Charley Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's try elephants ! Hannibal Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:37:50 -0600 From: michael cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Question: Who knows where the Main Mass is of POWELLSVILLE, Oh. ? To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, I am looking for information concerning the POWELLSVILLE, OH, H5. Who has the Main Mass and what is the known weight of this mass? I know the known Main Mass was 4.3kg, but that was before cutting? Any info would be helpful. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pass those cards along
Here is a slightly revised post I sent to the IMCA list. It inspired some great dialogue and hopefully it will do the same here on the Met-List: Now that provenance is a larger issue than ever, I have been reorganizing my specimen cards from past purchases and updating spreadsheets to include more ridiculously detailed info on past purchases (chain of ownership, purchase date, trade date, blood type of dealer, etc.). My suggestion is this: *When available*, please pass the original dealer card(s) with the sale or trade of a specimen. Some of you already do this. I have begun writing the chain of ownership on the back of all my cards. Some can even be traced through 4 or 5 dealers. If cutting a larger piece up, I would recommend making copies of the specimen card to send along. I think this applies more to historical specimens than anything. I don't expect to see chain of ownership on a rusty Canyon Diablo, but it certainly wouldn't hurt! I know this topic has been covered on the list in the past, but I still rarely see multiple specimen cards with a purchase. I also believe that non-dealers/collectors should include a specimen card for that occasional sale or upgrade as well. You can make great specimen cards through Microsoft Excel! I'm sure that collectors 100 years from now will appreciate it. Your thoughts are important. Cheers, Mike Bandli __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio
Greetings all, Having purchased most of all the Powellsville, Ohio material, I can account for about 4,966gm of it. With Casper offering an additional 4.5 kg of material that means there is 9,466 grams of this material total that I can account for. I know for a fact there is other material in peoples hands which could account for another 1,000 grams or so plus or minus. If there were more than two masses that were found it might account for over 10.5 kg total that I think exist. It be interesting to know just who all holds some Powellsville and how much of it really exists. --AL Mitterling Charley wrote: Hi Michael, According to Encyclopedia of Meteorites, A 4310 g stone was found ~40 cm underground by a man digging out a tree stump in his yard. I would think this would be the weight when it was found. Here's the link. http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/T_Meteoriteview.asp?key=37881 It appears that a couple of list members own pieces. Perhaps they have more info. Hope this helps. Best regards, Charley __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Pass those cards along
Forgot to send this to the list! Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Mark Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pass those cards along Mike and all, I agree. But as a minimum, and I've said this before, every dealer and collector should have at least the label or some sort of documentation as to where he or she obtained the sample. This way, going forward, a chain of documents is automatically created. The purchaser then has at least one other party to check with. Certainly is much better to include multiple cards and/or documents if available, but where the individual obtained the sample should be the absolute minimum. Is it possible to reach some sort of consensus on this, or perhaps propose this to IMCA to adopt as a recommended minimum standard of practice? Just my thoughts! Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Pass those cards along Here is a slightly revised post I sent to the IMCA list. It inspired some great dialogue and hopefully it will do the same here on the Met-List: Now that provenance is a larger issue than ever, I have been reorganizing my specimen cards from past purchases and updating spreadsheets to include more ridiculously detailed info on past purchases (chain of ownership, purchase date, trade date, blood type of dealer, etc.). My suggestion is this: *When available*, please pass the original dealer card(s) with the sale or trade of a specimen. Some of you already do this. I have begun writing the chain of ownership on the back of all my cards. Some can even be traced through 4 or 5 dealers. If cutting a larger piece up, I would recommend making copies of the specimen card to send along. I think this applies more to historical specimens than anything. I don't expect to see chain of ownership on a rusty Canyon Diablo, but it certainly wouldn't hurt! I know this topic has been covered on the list in the past, but I still rarely see multiple specimen cards with a purchase. I also believe that non-dealers/collectors should include a specimen card for that occasional sale or upgrade as well. You can make great specimen cards through Microsoft Excel! I'm sure that collectors 100 years from now will appreciate it. Your thoughts are important. Cheers, Mike Bandli __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio
Hi All, I have 6.74g - not much but at least not a micro-micro. Don __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Hell All, I am curious, if anyone on the list remembers the Steve Arnold Famous Reverse Auctions I have held in the past? If you do, and especially if you bought something via the old Famous Reverse Auctions, please contact me directly off the list. I am thinking about doing one again, but would like some input first. Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
I think it is retarded and a scam to make something simple like an auction confusing. Ebay works fine, there is no room for shill bidding, scheming or questions. If you have something to sell, ebay it Steve. I personally like to bid but don't have time for those kinds of games. Michael Farmer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell All, I am curious, if anyone on the list remembers the Steve Arnold Famous Reverse Auctions I have held in the past? If you do, and especially if you bought something via the old Famous Reverse Auctions, please contact me directly off the list. I am thinking about doing one again, but would like some input first. Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio
Everyone and Don- I am the one with the micro! (HA!) 2.91 Gr. Not a lot- but at least I have some and it is mine! Mike --- Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have 6.74g - not much but at least not a micro-micro. Don __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio
Hi, I have a 5.496g partslice which I got from Paul Martyn in 2002 Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AL Mitterling Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:28 AM To: Charley Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio Greetings all, Having purchased most of all the Powellsville, Ohio material, I can account for about 4,966gm of it. With Casper offering an additional 4.5 kg of material that means there is 9,466 grams of this material total that I can account for. I know for a fact there is other material in peoples hands which could account for another 1,000 grams or so plus or minus. If there were more than two masses that were found it might account for over 10.5 kg total that I think exist. It be interesting to know just who all holds some Powellsville and how much of it really exists. --AL Mitterling Charley wrote: Hi Michael, According to Encyclopedia of Meteorites, A 4310 g stone was found ~40 cm underground by a man digging out a tree stump in his yard. I would think this would be the weight when it was found. Here's the link. http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/T_Meteoriteview.asp?key=37881 It appears that a couple of list members own pieces. Perhaps they have more info. Hope this helps. Best regards, Charley __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Hi Steve #1, list members, When you think about it, a reverse auction isn't an auction at all. It's a normal sale where the seller says negotiable. I agree it is confusing to call it an auction, but it is the way most nice things are sold, like houses, cars, etc. (and costly special meteorites). It is an attention getter, so I'd say if you have something really nice with general appeal to sell it could be interesting. Otherwise, I'd be careful not to overuse the concept, as it requires multiple postings to the list in a one-week period and can take attention away from the sales of others who need to sell stuff to get by and who do play by the posting rules ... Since you don't post sales often, why not offer it once at a reasonable price, see what happens and then just say, OK, it didn't sell ... first one who wants it gets 25% off respond to my discount posting ... that ought to be a nice compromise (though two posts, that seems like the norm). All the interested buyers would be on guard for the good deal and create some excitement worthy of the museum piece. Just my 20 centavos. Best wishes, Doug -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 8:14 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction I think it is retarded and a scam to make something simple like an auction confusing. Ebay works fine, there is no room for shill bidding, scheming or questions. If you have something to sell, ebay it Steve. I personally like to bid but don't have time for those kinds of games. Michael Farmer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hell All, I am curious, if anyone on the list remembers the Steve Arnold Famous Reverse Auctions I have held in the past? If you do, and especially if you bought something via the old Famous Reverse Auctions, please contact me directly off the list. I am thinking about doing one again, but would like some input first. Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Chat Tonight?
Since Mark Bostick's 'Meteorite Chat' has been down for several months, I thought I would give it a shot and see if anyone still wants to have the occasional old-fashioned meteorite web-chat: http://www.astro-artifacts.com/Astroartifacts/Meteorite_Chat.html This is a test run, so sorry for any glitches. Mike Bandli __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio
Hello Al and List, Powellsville is a very incredible meteorite with some very rare red crystals that Dirk Ross spoke about on the list a few years ago. To help with your accounting I have a 268 gram slice. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio Greetings all, Having purchased most of all the Powellsville, Ohio material, I can account for about 4,966gm of it. With Casper offering an additional 4.5 kg of material that means there is 9,466 grams of this material total that I can account for. I know for a fact there is other material in peoples hands which could account for another 1,000 grams or so plus or minus. If there were more than two masses that were found it might account for over 10.5 kg total that I think exist. It be interesting to know just who all holds some Powellsville and how much of it really exists. --AL Mitterling Charley wrote: Hi Michael, According to Encyclopedia of Meteorites, A 4310 g stone was found ~40 cm underground by a man digging out a tree stump in his yard. I would think this would be the weight when it was found. Here's the link. http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/T_Meteoriteview.asp?key=37881 It appears that a couple of list members own pieces. Perhaps they have more info. Hope this helps. Best regards, Charley __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Hello List and Steve, I for one am very excited about your reverse auction. I remember getting some great deals on some really rare specimens a few years ago and it was a great deal of fun doing it. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction Hell All, I am curious, if anyone on the list remembers the Steve Arnold Famous Reverse Auctions I have held in the past? If you do, and especially if you bought something via the old Famous Reverse Auctions, please contact me directly off the list. I am thinking about doing one again, but would like some input first. Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
I am fired up about this reverse auction also. This could be just the idea ebay has been looking for. Can't wait to participate. Howard Steffic Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:52:23 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction Hello List and Steve, I for one am very excited about your reverse auction. I remember getting some great deals on some really rare specimens a few years ago and it was a great deal of fun doing it. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction Hell All, I am curious, if anyone on the list remembers the Steve Arnold Famous Reverse Auctions I have held in the past? If you do, and especially if you bought something via the old Famous Reverse Auctions, please contact me directly off the list. I am thinking about doing one again, but would like some input first. Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498ocid=T067MSN40A0701A __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Jason, it is stupid, it is a circus act, and I think it is a scam. So let me get this, I bid one cent on every piece right now, now gve me my 1 cent meteorites since I will clearly be the lowest bidder and lets call it a day. Of course that isnt how it works, so tell me how the lowest bidder get the piece? Just a scam, a gimmick, an auction that doesnt make sense. Any takers on the beachfront property in Tucson? I am selling cheap, today only, and I take paypal. Michael Farmer --- JASON PHILLIPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List and Steve, I for one am very excited about your reverse auction. I remember getting some great deals on some really rare specimens a few years ago and it was a great deal of fun doing it. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction Hell All, I am curious, if anyone on the list remembers the Steve Arnold Famous Reverse Auctions I have held in the past? If you do, and especially if you bought something via the old Famous Reverse Auctions, please contact me directly off the list. I am thinking about doing one again, but would like some input first. Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:23:15 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Of course that isnt how it works, so tell me how the lowest bidder get the piece? Just a scam, a gimmick, an auction that doesnt make sense. I don't think what Steve is offering fits the definition of a reverse auction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_auction I think what he means is still an auction where the highest bidder wins, except that he doesn't know the inital asking price or what the other bidders offer. And (maybe?) the top bidder pays his bid, and not the smallest increment above the next highest bidder? Personally, that wouldn't work for me-- I'm too much of a bargain hunter. I want to hear a price for something (or at least see what other people are offering) and not just hear how much will you give me?. I was thinking silent auction is what Steve is wanting, but that term doesn't seem to fit, either. If it was as I was describing, it looks like it would be a: Sealed-bid first-price auction: Also known as Sealed High-Bid Auction or First-Price Sealed-Bid Auction (FPSB). In this type of auction all bidders simultaneously submit bids so that no bidder knows the bid of any other participant. The highest bidder pays the price they submitted. but, looking at the defintions, he might mean a: Dutch auction: In the traditional Dutch auction the auctioneer begins with a high asking price, which is lowered until some participant is willing to accept the auctioneer's price, or a predetermined minimum price is reached. The winning participant pays the last announced price. from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auction __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: reminder - auctions ending in a day
Hi all, my auctions are ending tomorrow, so this is a reminder type collectors, a H/L6 endcut is also there, as well as big H3 slices http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=austromet thanks, Christian I.M.C.A. #2673 at www.imca.cc website: www.austromet.com Ing. Christian Anger Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Hi Darren, You might get away with calling it a Dutch Auction by someone else's definition (wikipedia isn't always right? I dont know). I've always thought of a Dutch Auction as being an auction where shares of items are available to several people and the successful lowest bidder determines the price they all get making everyone above him/her very happy as they did not pay their maximum offer. What people do to liquidate companies in shares. In the case it is a single item, I fail to see how the heart of the Dutch idea (where some people get a share of the item for less than they would have otherwise offered) is implemented. It is in effect a Dutch Auction of one. Kind of like your girlfriend saying, ok, let's do Dutch, but I won't show up, so all yopu have to do is pay your part. The best parallel I can see is a Going out of Business Sale, where things are marked down until they are all gone. Those aren't called auctions, just sales... The closest I remember for a Dutch Auction in the meteorite community was for Campo Sales, and more recently a Dutch Auction on Mali. Only in both cases, it would have been more fun for the higher buyers if they paid the lowest price, and not been clipped like a sinking stock. But they didn't, so they weren't really Dutch auctions. If you wanted to make a meteorite auction a Dutch auction, I'd think you could cut up a hundred credit card sizes of Esquel. The offer them Dutch, and the hundred buyers would pay the price of the 100th lowest bid and all would get them for less than they wanted. If only 50 people bid a hundred dollas each, and one bid one cent, for a total of 51 bidders, all would walk off with a piece for $0.01 each. This is not what Steve is doing. It is a Dutch auction of 1 item which to me removes the auction just like a Dutch date of one person. Why the need to call it any kind of auction? When you buy a house at a buyers' auction, you compete with bidders to pay more but get a deal. When you have a Seller's auction, still my head hurts as to what that means. Steve #1 is offering some good deals, that's what counts, all the dealers like to put on a show, so maybe some good deals will be available. Darren, you say you aren't so interested. If there was a piece you always wanted going up under an all pieces must go sale, I think we could all be interested to follow up. Finally, just for fun: Suppose you had an expensive meteorite. For argument's sake, the Brenham oriented pallasite. Suppose no one could afford the cash, but the finder wanted to sell out. He could sell the piece in % and it could go on display in a museum for 5 years. At which point it might be put up for sale, whether by some members buying out others, or to a third party. Just a thought, though the claims would have to be careful not to represent it as a marketable investment - that s illegal for good reason. Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:23:15 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Of course that isnt how it works, so tell me how the lowest bidder get the piece? Just a scam, a gimmick, an auction that doesnt make sense. I don't think what Steve is offering fits the definition of a reverse auction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_auction I think what he means is still an auction where the highest bidder wins, except that he doesn't know the inital asking price or what the other bidders offer. And (maybe?) the top bidder pays his bid, and not the smallest increment above the next highest bidder? Personally, that wouldn't work for me-- I'm too much of a bargain hunter. I want to hear a price for something (or at least see what other people are offering) and not just hear how much will you give me?. I was thinking silent auction is what Steve is wanting, but that term doesn't seem to fit, either. If it was as I was describing, it looks like it would be a: Sealed-bid first-price auction: Also known as Sealed High-Bid Auction or First-Price Sealed-Bid Auction (FPSB). In this type of auction all bidders simultaneously submit bids so that no bidder knows the bid of any other participant. The highest bidder pays the price they submitted. but, looking at the defintions, he might mean a: Dutch auction: In the traditional Dutch auction the auctioneer begins with a high asking price, which is lowered until some participant is willing to accept the auctioneer's price, or a predetermined minimum price is reached. The winning participant pays the last announced price. from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auction __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
See what I am getting at? It is a stupid idea, done to fool people into bidding on things and no one has an idea what the hell is going on. I remember another disastrous auction like that in Tucson last year, there was no repeat this year thank god. Wanna have a sale, then put the meteorites on eBay, let buyers see who wants it the most. Easy, legal, and no scams can take place. High bidder gets the worm. I just think these types of things are like a county carnival, where carnies show you the big stuffed animal you can win for your lady, only by throwing a ball through that hole, except what you don't know is that you have to do it a hundred times to get that stupid toy, and you could just buy the damn thing for 1o% of what you eventually put into trying to win it. Just my opinion, which is what Steve asked for. Michael Farmer --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Darren, You might get away with calling it a Dutch Auction by someone else's definition (wikipedia isn't always right? I dont know). I've always thought of a Dutch Auction as being an auction where shares of items are available to several people and the successful lowest bidder determines the price they all get making everyone above him/her very happy as they did not pay their maximum offer. What people do to liquidate companies in shares. In the case it is a single item, I fail to see how the heart of the Dutch idea (where some people get a share of the item for less than they would have otherwise offered) is implemented. It is in effect a Dutch Auction of one. Kind of like your girlfriend saying, ok, let's do Dutch, but I won't show up, so all yopu have to do is pay your part. The best parallel I can see is a Going out of Business Sale, where things are marked down until they are all gone. Those aren't called auctions, just sales... The closest I remember for a Dutch Auction in the meteorite community was for Campo Sales, and more recently a Dutch Auction on Mali. Only in both cases, it would have been more fun for the higher buyers if they paid the lowest price, and not been clipped like a sinking stock. But they didn't, so they weren't really Dutch auctions. If you wanted to make a meteorite auction a Dutch auction, I'd think you could cut up a hundred credit card sizes of Esquel. The offer them Dutch, and the hundred buyers would pay the price of the 100th lowest bid and all would get them for less than they wanted. If only 50 people bid a hundred dollas each, and one bid one cent, for a total of 51 bidders, all would walk off with a piece for $0.01 each. This is not what Steve is doing. It is a Dutch auction of 1 item which to me removes the auction just like a Dutch date of one person. Why the need to call it any kind of auction? When you buy a house at a buyers' auction, you compete with bidders to pay more but get a deal. When you have a Seller's auction, still my head hurts as to what that means. Steve #1 is offering some good deals, that's what counts, all the dealers like to put on a show, so maybe some good deals will be available. Darren, you say you aren't so interested. If there was a piece you always wanted going up under an all pieces must go sale, I think we could all be interested to follow up. Finally, just for fun: Suppose you had an expensive meteorite. For argument's sake, the Brenham oriented pallasite. Suppose no one could afford the cash, but the finder wanted to sell out. He could sell the piece in % and it could go on display in a museum for 5 years. At which point it might be put up for sale, whether by some members buying out others, or to a third party. Just a thought, though the claims would have to be careful not to represent it as a marketable investment - that s illegal for good reason. Best wishes Doug -Original Message- From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:44 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:23:15 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Of course that isnt how it works, so tell me how the lowest bidder get the piece? Just a scam, a gimmick, an auction that doesnt make sense. I don't think what Steve is offering fits the definition of a reverse auction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_auction I think what he means is still an auction where the highest bidder wins, except that he doesn't know the inital asking price or what the other bidders offer. And (maybe?) the top bidder pays his bid, and not the smallest increment above the next highest bidder? Personally, that wouldn't work for me-- I'm too much of a bargain hunter. I want to hear a price for something (or at least see what other people are offering) and not just hear how much will you give me?. I was
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Hello Mike and List, The fun part of it is getting the opportunity to get a 1 cent meteorite. Now we all know that the price would not get the low, either by Steve not letting it or someone getting it before that time. It may be a gimmick, but it sure is a fun way to buy meteorites. Steve has always been someone who doesn't do things like everyone else and it seems to have worked for him over the years. I think often this is a way for Steve to get to know his customers or future customers and I would say that he often sells pieces for less than he has in them just in the spirit of selling/fun. We have to remember, and it is often difficult, that this is a hobby and it should be fun and sometimes doing something different adds to the fun. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JASON PHILLIPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction Jason, it is stupid, it is a circus act, and I think it is a scam. So let me get this, I bid one cent on every piece right now, now gve me my 1 cent meteorites since I will clearly be the lowest bidder and lets call it a day. Of course that isnt how it works, so tell me how the lowest bidder get the piece? Just a scam, a gimmick, an auction that doesnt make sense. Any takers on the beachfront property in Tucson? I am selling cheap, today only, and I take paypal. Michael Farmer --- JASON PHILLIPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List and Steve, I for one am very excited about your reverse auction. I remember getting some great deals on some really rare specimens a few years ago and it was a great deal of fun doing it. Take Care, Jason Rocks from Heaven www.rocksfromheaven.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction Hell All, I am curious, if anyone on the list remembers the Steve Arnold Famous Reverse Auctions I have held in the past? If you do, and especially if you bought something via the old Famous Reverse Auctions, please contact me directly off the list. I am thinking about doing one again, but would like some input first. Thanks, Steve Arnold #1 Arkansas **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 14g tatahouine
here is a killer 14.4 g tatahouine diogenite. i tried polishing it and i have never seen any meteorite take a hi-polish so well. it turned out like glass. this a very attractive specimen: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290226546857 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:11:51 -0400, you wrote: You might get away with calling it a Dutch Auction by someone else's definition (wikipedia isn't always right? I dont know). I've always thought of a Dutch Auction as being an auction where shares of items are available to several people and the successful lowest bidder determines the price they all get making everyone above him/her very happy as they did not pay their maximum offer. I thought that, too-- but it doesn't seem to be strictly true. If you are skeptical about trusting wikipedia, how about this? http://www.answers.com/dutch+auctionr=67 Here's something interesting: http://sarahcarey.blogspot.com/2003_06_01_sarahcarey_archive.html Dutch Auction Some trivia on this term. The descending-price auction, commonly known in academic literature as the Dutch auction, uses an open format rather than a sealed-bid method. It is the technique used in Netherlands to auction produce and flowers (hence, a Dutch auction). Unfortunately, the financial world has chosen to refer to another type of auction as the Dutch auction. In the financial world, the auction known as Dutch is what is referred to in the academic world as a uniform, second-price auction. Great confusion results. In this series of articles, the Dutch auction will mean a descending-bid structure. In a Dutch auction, bidding starts at an extremely high price and is progressively lowered until a buyer claims an item by calling mine, or by pressing a button that stops an automatic clock. When multiple units are auctioned, normally more takers press the button as price declines. In other words, the first winner takes his prize and pays his price and later winners pay less. When the goods are exhausted, the bidding is over. Dutch auctions have been used to finance credit in Rumania and for foreign exchange in Bolivia, Jamaica, Zambia and have also been used to sell fish in England and in Israel. Dutch auctions are common in less obvious forms. Filene's, a large store in Boston, keeps in its basement a variety of marked-down goods, each with a price and date attached. The price paid at the register is the price on the tag minus a discount that depends upon how long ago the item was tagged. As time passes and the item remains unsold, the discount rises from 10 to as high as 70 percent. It is believed that the English system may be inferior to Dutch in one area. The key to any successful auction (from the seller's point of view) is the effect of competition on the potential buyers, and in an English auction, the underbidder usually forces the bid up by one small step. The winner may end up paying well under his valuation and thus the seller does not receive the maximum price. However, in the Dutch system, if the bidder with the highest interest really wants an item, he cannot afford to wait too long to enter his bid. That means he might bid at or near his highest valuation. (source) and from Amazon... Dutch Auctions In Dutch auctions, the seller lists a quantity of items for sale--five Barbie dolls, for example, or 20 rocks that bear a striking resemblance to George Washington. Bidders submit both how many items they wish to buy and how much they want to bid for each one. The final per-item price in a Dutch auction is determined by the lowest of the winning bids. The bidder who submits the highest of the winning bids is entitled to the quantity he or she specified, but at the lower per-item price. Remaining quantities of the item are used to fill other winning bids in the order of their bid price. Confused? This example should clear things up: Joe and Sue are the individual high bidders in a Dutch auction for lamps. Joe placed a bid for 30 lamps at $20 each. In a subsequent bid, Sue offered to buy 10 lamps at $65 each. Because Sue's high bid ($65) is greater than Joe's high bid ($20), Sue is entitled to all 10 lamps she requested at the $20 price (the lowest winning bid). Joe is entitled to the remaining 20 lamps at $20 each, even though his original bid was for a quantity of 30. There is usually more than one winner in a Dutch auction. Winners who are not the top bidder may win fewer items than requested in their original bids, but winning bidders are still bound to purchase the smaller number of items. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 14g tatahouine
Thanks for the link! That is a Killer stone! Tom In a message dated 4/28/2008 10:36:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: here is a killer 14.4 g tatahouine diogenite. i tried polishing it and i have never seen any meteorite take a hi-polish so well. it turned out like glass. this a very attractive specimen: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290226546857 __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Exactly as I said, confusing, and stupid. List the item for one cent, let people fight it out. I often have items sell at or near one cent, so those buyers reap the rewards, or like last week, people fought it out to get a couple of my pieces, that went for many times what I would have sold for, supply and demand, those who want it bad enough, pay for it. Michael Farmer --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:11:51 -0400, you wrote: You might get away with calling it a Dutch Auction by someone else's definition (wikipedia isn't always right? I dont know). I've always thought of a Dutch Auction as being an auction where shares of items are available to several people and the successful lowest bidder determines the price they all get making everyone above him/her very happy as they did not pay their maximum offer. I thought that, too-- but it doesn't seem to be strictly true. If you are skeptical about trusting wikipedia, how about this? http://www.answers.com/dutch+auctionr=67 Here's something interesting: http://sarahcarey.blogspot.com/2003_06_01_sarahcarey_archive.html Dutch Auction Some trivia on this term. The descending-price auction, commonly known in academic literature as the Dutch auction, uses an open format rather than a sealed-bid method. It is the technique used in Netherlands to auction produce and flowers (hence, a Dutch auction). Unfortunately, the financial world has chosen to refer to another type of auction as the Dutch auction. In the financial world, the auction known as Dutch is what is referred to in the academic world as a uniform, second-price auction. Great confusion results. In this series of articles, the Dutch auction will mean a descending-bid structure. In a Dutch auction, bidding starts at an extremely high price and is progressively lowered until a buyer claims an item by calling mine, or by pressing a button that stops an automatic clock. When multiple units are auctioned, normally more takers press the button as price declines. In other words, the first winner takes his prize and pays his price and later winners pay less. When the goods are exhausted, the bidding is over. Dutch auctions have been used to finance credit in Rumania and for foreign exchange in Bolivia, Jamaica, Zambia and have also been used to sell fish in England and in Israel. Dutch auctions are common in less obvious forms. Filene's, a large store in Boston, keeps in its basement a variety of marked-down goods, each with a price and date attached. The price paid at the register is the price on the tag minus a discount that depends upon how long ago the item was tagged. As time passes and the item remains unsold, the discount rises from 10 to as high as 70 percent. It is believed that the English system may be inferior to Dutch in one area. The key to any successful auction (from the seller's point of view) is the effect of competition on the potential buyers, and in an English auction, the underbidder usually forces the bid up by one small step. The winner may end up paying well under his valuation and thus the seller does not receive the maximum price. However, in the Dutch system, if the bidder with the highest interest really wants an item, he cannot afford to wait too long to enter his bid. That means he might bid at or near his highest valuation. (source) and from Amazon... Dutch Auctions In Dutch auctions, the seller lists a quantity of items for sale--five Barbie dolls, for example, or 20 rocks that bear a striking resemblance to George Washington. Bidders submit both how many items they wish to buy and how much they want to bid for each one. The final per-item price in a Dutch auction is determined by the lowest of the winning bids. The bidder who submits the highest of the winning bids is entitled to the quantity he or she specified, but at the lower per-item price. Remaining quantities of the item are used to fill other winning bids in the order of their bid price. Confused? This example should clear things up: Joe and Sue are the individual high bidders in a Dutch auction for lamps. Joe placed a bid for 30 lamps at $20 each. In a subsequent bid, Sue offered to buy 10 lamps at $65 each. Because Sue's high bid ($65) is greater than Joe's high bid ($20), Sue is entitled to all 10 lamps she requested at the $20 price (the lowest winning bid). Joe is entitled to the remaining 20 lamps at $20 each, even though his original bid was for a quantity of 30. There is usually more than one winner in a Dutch auction. Winners who are not the top bidder may win fewer items than requested in their original bids, but winning bidders are still bound to purchase the smaller number of items. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
Hey Guys, I really didn't want to get into this yet, as I wanted to be the first to try this on Ebay. Talk about it too much, and someone else might try this before I get to do it first! But I will explain it so you guys don't get too confused. Ebay has an Auction format and a Buy It Now feature. Yes, Buy It Now is NOT a true auction, even though most people think of Ebay as an Online AUCTION Site. With Buy It Now sellers can place items on sale for a fixed price. As a seller, if you want to discount things for 5% or 50% or 90% off some of your items, you can. Michael Cottingham had a 40% off sale for a few days, just a couple of days ago. So I am sure most all of you are aware of this Ebay feature. Since, so many people seemed to enjoy my so called Reverse Auctions I had in the past, I thought Hey, why not do it on Ebay? The problem with doing it the old way was that there was a LOT of work on my end, lowering prices, dealing with an influx of emails on people that wanted to buy it at the new lower price. With Ebay, it will be much easier to do this. So that is my plan. My email earlier was simply an attempt to contact some of you that have previously bought from me, people that enjoyed the process. I wanted to talk with you guys off line about some things. Of course, in my description on the Ebay lots, I was going to explain how I was going to progressively lower the prices, in my Reverse Auction style, starting with my asking price, then maybe a day later, putting a 10% discount on the ones that had not sold. Then maybe the next day, putting a 20% discount on the remaining ones. This keeps going until everything is sold, or until I raise enough cash and decide I don't want to sell some or all of the remaining at too low of a price. The opposite way of doing this is with a normal auction with a reserve price, or at a starting price. Theoretically, a lot might get down to 99% off, before someone Buys It Now. If the lot was a $1.00 item at the start, then it would then be marked down to $0.01. If it was a $1,000.00 item, then it might go down to $10.00. In fact, someone might not even pay $0.01 for some meteorites. It happens that some Normal auctions start at $0.01 and the seller hopes that the bids go up, yet sometimes no one even bothers to bid once on them, so there is no sale at $0.01. Is it a scam to start high and then lower the price until an items gets in a price range that someone decides they want to buy it? I don't really think so. If I think a 100 gram Goa is worth $1/g or $100, I might start it out at $100. If someone likes that rock, and agrees it is worth $100, they can Buy It Now at that price. If not, I might drop the price with a 10% of Sale, and it is now $90. If no one likes that price, and I want to go lower, I can offer a 20% off price, and thus the Buy It Now price is temporarily at $80. And so on. If I have 2 Gaos up, each 100 grams, and one is oriented, and the other isn't, someone might jump at the $90 price, while someone else might wait until the price gets to $50 to Buy the nonoriented one. In fact, I think some dealers put retail prices on their web sites, but if you call them, or email them they are willing to lower the prices to make a sale. Maybe the first day they put something up, they might not sell something too discounted. But talk to them a week later, or a month or year later, and sometimes buyers can talk a seller down. No scam involved. Is this a gimmick? Well, I guess it depends on the definition of gimmick. I would tend to think it is marketing. Of course, it being on Ebay, no one is forced to participate. Is Ebay a gimmick? Is Buy It Now a gimmick? Is offering a discount a gimmick? Is Free shipping a gimmick? Is saying hurry up and buy before I sell out a gimmick? By a broad enough definition, about anything can be called a gimmick. AND having said ALL that, I don't even know if I will call this a Reverse Auction. My original email to the group only asked if anyone here had participated in one of my Reverse Auctions of the past. Maybe my previous Reverse Auctions didn't fit the legal definition of a true auction, but those that enjoyed participating in them in the past, know what I meant when I asked my simple question to contact me off list. Doug mentioned, this more as a Going out of business sale format. I would agree, with the exception that I am not going out of business. Maybe it would be best compared to a furniture store that is having an inventory liquidation sale. The goal of the store is to move out enough inventory so there is enough room for the new inventory coming. The sale gets better and better each week, until there is the floor space for the new, then the sale goes off. You expect the best stuff to go early, and real bargains can be picked up on
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold's Famous Reverse Auction
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:18:13 EDT, you wrote: Since, so many people seemed to enjoy my so called Reverse Auctions I had in the past, I thought Hey, why not do it on Ebay? Now, that sounds interesting. It was the Sealed-bid first-price auction I was poo-poohing, which I thought you might have meant-- I've seen it used here before-- people make private offers, highest offer is taken, you don't know what the lower offers were. Me, win or lose, I want to know how much the other bidders were offering (wherther I got a steal or was a sucker). Doug mentioned, this more as a Going out of business sale format. I would agree, with the exception that I am not going out of business. Maybe it would be best compared to a furniture store that is having an inventory liquidation sale. Ah, one of these sales: http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/video/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Superheavy element found in nature
http://arxivblog.com/?p=385 http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0804/0804.3869.pdf This is meteorite related in that, well, if this finding pans out, then the element has to be supernova generated, and present in meteorites (and meteorite parent bodies), too. And, depending on the chemical properties, maybe even more highly concentrated in meteorites than in the Earth's crust. If you look hard enough, you might find them in meteorites. (But mostly, just a cool story) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Powellsville Ohio
I have a 2.75g piece. Tracy Latimer Greetings all, Having purchased most of all the Powellsville, Ohio material, I can account for about 4,966gm of it. With Casper offering an additional 4.5 kg of material that means there is 9,466 grams of this material total that I can account for. I know for a fact there is other material in peoples hands which could account for another 1,000 grams or so plus or minus. If there were more than two masses that were found it might account for over 10.5 kg total that I think exist. It be interesting to know just who all holds some Powellsville and how much of it really exists. --AL Mitterling _ Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498ocid=T067MSN40A0701A __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
