[meteorite-list] Tornadoes in Colorado

2008-05-23 Thread Impactika
In case you are just now catching up with the news
 
Yes they were tornadoes in Colorado this afternoon. Starting just after  
noon, a cluster of tornadoes, probably category 3, touched down about 50 miles  
north of Denver and went on north to Wyoming, following the front range of the  
Rockies..
A lot of damage to several small towns, and a lot of farms on the way.  Only 
casualties: one man in a mobile home, and a bunch of cows when a  dairy was 
completely flattened. 

For all the details and pictures, look at:
_http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=92268_ 
(http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=92268) 
 
In the mountains, some snow above 9000 feet (3000 meters).
In Denver, a lot of wind, a bit of rain. Nothing much really.
 

Anne M.  Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vice-President of IMCA 
www.IMCA.cc 
 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Tornadoes in Colorado

2008-05-23 Thread mckinney trammell
yea, in the georgia area we have had 'em about every
weekend since mid-feb: www.macon.com 
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In case you are just now catching up with the
 news
  
 Yes they were tornadoes in Colorado this afternoon.
 Starting just after  
 noon, a cluster of tornadoes, probably category 3,
 touched down about 50 miles  
 north of Denver and went on north to Wyoming,
 following the front range of the  
 Rockies..
 A lot of damage to several small towns, and a lot of
 farms on the way.  Only 
 casualties: one man in a mobile home, and a bunch of
 cows when a  dairy was 
 completely flattened. 
 
 For all the details and pictures, look at:

_http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=92268_
 

(http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=92268)
 
  
 In the mountains, some snow above 9000 feet (3000
 meters).
 In Denver, a lot of wind, a bit of rain. Nothing
 much really.
  
 
 Anne M.  Black
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vice-President of IMCA 
 www.IMCA.cc 
  
 
 
 
 **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers.
 Watch Cooking with 
 Tyler Florence on AOL Food.  

(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302)
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tornadoes in Colorado

2008-05-23 Thread Anita D. Westlake
I'm glad to hear you are okay Anne. We don't want you or your space rocks to
take an unscheduled flight!
Anita

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yea, in the georgia area we have had 'em about every
weekend since mid-feb: www.macon.com 
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In case you are just now catching up with the
 news
  
 Yes they were tornadoes in Colorado this afternoon.
 Starting just after  
 noon, a cluster of tornadoes, probably category 3,
 touched down about 50 miles  
 north of Denver and went on north to Wyoming,
 following the front range of the  
 Rockies..
 A lot of damage to several small towns, and a lot of
 farms on the way.  Only 
 casualties: one man in a mobile home, and a bunch of
 cows when a  dairy was 
 completely flattened. 
 
 For all the details and pictures, look at:

_http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=92268_
 

(http://www.9news.com/news/top-article.aspx?storyid=92268)
 
  
 In the mountains, some snow above 9000 feet (3000
 meters).
 In Denver, a lot of wind, a bit of rain. Nothing
 much really.
  
 
 Anne M.  Black
 www.IMPACTIKA.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vice-President of IMCA 
 www.IMCA.cc 
  
 
 
 
 **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers.
 Watch Cooking with 
 Tyler Florence on AOL Food.  

(http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302)
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[meteorite-list] If you believed they'll put your name on the moon, name on the moon

2008-05-23 Thread Darren Garrison
http://lro.jhuapl.edu/NameToMoon/
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Re: [meteorite-list] If you believed they'll put your name on the moon, name on the moon

2008-05-23 Thread Sean T. Murray

I signed up for that a few weeks ago.

The kicker is that I also signed up a crazy friend of mine that still 
refuses to believe we've been to the moon and sent her the certificate. :-)


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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 19-23, 2008

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
May 19-23, 2008

o Jovis Tholus (Released 19 May 2008)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20080519a

o Marte Valles (Released 20 May 2008)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20080520a

o Channels (Released 21 May 2008)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20080521a

o Hebrus Valles (Released 22 May 2008)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20080522a

o Hebrus Valles (Released 23 May 2008)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20080523a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Observed lunar meteorite impacts hit 100

2008-05-23 Thread jcomet2
There is a large distinction between the classical comets and the classical 
asteroids. Comet Hale-Bopp or Huykatake could never be confused for an 
asteroid. On the other hand there are comets that are almost spent out such as 
P/Arend-Regeaux which at often times appears stellar like through even the 
largest telescopes. Then there is P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 1 which travels in a 
near circular orbit and is quite faint and stellar appearing until it goes into 
an out burst approximately once per month. I have monitored this comet for 
years and it can brighten very rapidly several hundred fold and produce a coma. 
It may or may not be tied into the rotation due to the out bursts are not 
predictable and can vary by 20 to 60 days. 

For those of you who have been confused by all the classifications of comets 
and asteroids, here is a very simple, and I stress simple classification. It 
does not get into groups or families. I'm sure there are many mistakes and I 
take full responsibilty for the content.

Near Earth Objects – Objects that approach the earth’s orbit.
Atens – NEO’s with average orbital radii smaller than earth’s
Apollos – NEO’s with average orbital radii greater than earth but cross earth’s 
orbit
Amors – NEO’s with orbital radii between Mars and Earth’s and perihelia just 
outside Earth’s orbit.

Main belt – Asteroids in roughly circular orbits between Mars and Jupiter, most 
have inclinations less than 30 degrees and eccentricities less than 0.4
C-type – Carbonaceous asteroids with spectra similar to carbonaceous chondrites 
and comprising 75% of known Main Belt asteroids, found in the outer reaches of 
the asteroid belt.
S-type – Silicate rich asteroids with some metal but no carbon. Comprise about 
17% of visible asteroids.
M-type – Metal rich asteroids comprising about 10% of known asteroids. Possibly 
remnant core of differentiated body composed of nickel-iron. One problem is 
that some silicate compounds can mimic metal spectra. It is not yet clear 
whether all M-types are compositionally similar, or whether it is a label for 
several varieties which do not fit neatly into the main C and S classes.
V-type – Basaltic type asteroids, very rare but evidently more than one with 
different histories exist for this type. Vesta is the namesake of this type.

Trojan asteroids – Asteroids in roughly same orbit as a planet and found 
approximately 60 degrees ahead or behind the planet. 
Mars Trojans - has only two. 
Trojans - Jupiter has several hundred to several thousand, first ones to be 
discovered. 
Neptune Trojans -  is the only other gas giant to date with known Trojan 
asteroids. Spectra suggests that they are composed of water ice with a layer of 
dust and probably more akin to comets.

Centaurs – Objects with orbits between the gas giants Jupiter and Neptune. 
Three of them have exhibited cometary behavior. 

Damocloids – Halley type objects some have retrograde orbits, all have high 
eccentricity orbits, a few have since been shone to be comets. 

Trans-Neptunian Objects
Kuiper belt objects – extend from Neptune’s orbit to 55 AU from the Sun. All 
are icy bodies composed primarily of ammonia, methane and water
Cubewanos – objects with roughly circular orbits and low inclination and not in 
resonance with Neptune.
Plutinos – objects with eccentric orbits, often crossing Neptune’s orbit and 
inclinations of 10 to 25 degrees. Also in a 2 to 3 resonating orbit with 
Neptune. Pluto crosses Neptune’s orbit but due to inclination and resonation it 
cannot collide with the planet.   
Scattered Disc Objects – Poorly understood objects beyond Neptune in highly 
eccentric and highly inclined orbits that computer simulations revealed their 
orbits to be unstable.

Ort Cloud – Vast region of space roughly 1000 times further than Kuiper Belt.
Inner Ort Cloud – Also known as the Hills cloud, roughly 2000 to 20,000 AU and 
doughnut shaped. Probably the main source of comets.
Outer Ort Cloud – Spherical shaped region with inner edge about 20,000 AU 
extending out to 50,000 and possibly 100,000 AU or more than one light year.
No known Ort Cloud Objects have been discovered beyond the Kuiper Belt. The 
only known Ort Cloud Objects are the long period comets that visit the inner 
solar system. All have high eccentricities and can even be in retrograde 
orbits. 

There are some comets that are confined to the asteroid belt. There have even 
been cases when a known asteroid has turned into a comet. And we have one case 
where a known asteroid shares an orbit with a known meteor shower and is indeed 
postulated to be a dead comet. A few comets are in fact beginning to slowly 
turn off (less and less outgassing on each trip around sun).

Basically it boils down to all asteroids are in prograde orbits and are rocky 
type objects. Comets on the other hand can be prograde or retrograde, and in 
all sorts of orbits. They are composed of ice and dust intermixed with rock. 
Compositions both in asteroids 

[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Finds Yellowstone-like Hot Spring Deposits

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Baalke


Arizona State University
Tempe, Arizona

Contact:
Robert Burnham, 480-458-8207

May 22, 2008

Mars rover finds Yellowstone-like hot spring deposits

Deposits of nearly pure silica discovered by the Mars Exploration Rover
Spirit in Gusev Crater formed when volcanic steam or hot water (or maybe
both) percolated through the ground. Such deposits are found around
hydrothermal vents like those in Yellowstone National Park. That's the
conclusion of planetary scientists working with data collected by the
rover's mineral-scouting instrument, which was developed at Arizona State
University.

The silica discovery, announced briefly by NASA in 2007, is fully described
in a multi-author paper that appears in the May 23, 2008 issue of the
scientific journal Science. The lead author is Steven Squyres of Cornell
University, principal investigator for the rover science payload.

The silica finding turns a spotlight on an important site that may contain
preserved traces of ancient Martian life.

On Earth, hydrothermal deposits teem with life and the associated silica
deposits typically contain fossil remains of microbes, says Jack Farmer,
professor of astrobiology in ASU's School of Earth and Space Exploration,
part of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences. Farmer is one of the
paper's co-authors.

But we don't know if that's the case here, Farmer notes, because the
rovers don't carry instruments that can detect microscopic life. He adds,
What we can say is that this was once a habitable environment where liquid
water and the energy needed for life were present.

NASA landed the two Mars rovers, Spirit and Opportunity, on opposite sides
of the planet in January 2004 to look for rocks showing the presence of
water. As of now, the rovers are more than four Earth years into a mission
designed to last just three months. Despite dust collecting on their solar
panels and mechanical wear-and-tear, both are continuing to explore.

Dawning realization

The silica discovery unfolded in slow motion as Spirit emerged from
hibernation after its second Martian winter. The rover spent those months on
the edge of a football-field-size feature dubbed Home Plate.

Home Plate lies in the Columbia Hills, a range of low hills in the middle of
Gusev Crater, which spans 100 miles (170 kilometers) wide. The Hills rise
about 300 feet (100 meters) above the flat lava plain that fills Gusev, but
their structure and origin remain unclear to scientists.

We were going back to an area of exposed soil called the Tyrone site, which
we didn't have time to investigate before winter began, notes Steven Ruff,
a faculty research associate at ASU's Mars Space Flight Facility. Ruff is
another of the paper's co-authors.

The Tyrone soil proved rich in sulfate minerals, a phenomenon seen by Spirit
at other locations in the Columbia Hills, where Spirit has been exploring
since late 2004. While sulfates can form in several ways, water is involved
in most.

While parked next to Tyrone, we used the Mini-TES to look at some nearby
light-toned and knobby outcrops, says Ruff.

Mini-TES is short for the Miniature Thermal Emission Spectrometer, an
instrument placed on each rover to identify minerals by their infrared
spectrum. Ruff is the scientist in charge of day-to-day operations for
Mini-TES, which was designed by ASU's Philip Christensen, a Regents'
Professor of Geological Sciences and director of the Mars Space Flight
Facility.

Silica surprise

Ruff continues, It wasn't clear what we were seeing in the knobby outcrops
because they were contaminated with dust and wind-blown soil. But I thought
they might be silica-rich. Additional surveys with Mini-TES identified
other outcrops, similarly contaminated but likewise hinting at silica.

As it happened, the rover's jammed right front wheel inadvertently produced
the Aha! moment. Ruff and others on the science team noticed that the
stuck wheel had gouged a trench a few inches deep through the soil as the
rover drove ahead in reverse, dragging the crippled wheel behind.

The trench looked bright white, Ruff recalls, but we thought initially it
was just more sulfate minerals.

Over the winter, however, Ruff got curious. We aimed Mini-TES at the trench
and it showed a clear silica spectrum. This prompted us to drive back to it,
where the rover's Alpha Particle X-Ray Spectrometer told us the white soil
was more than 90 percent silica. That's a record high for silica on Mars.

Fumaroles and hot springs

Making such pure silica requires a lot of water, says Ruff. On Earth, the
only way to have this kind of silica enrichment is by hot water reacting
with rocks.

This, Ruff says, links the silica with Home Plate, which the rover team
already knew was a volcanic feature. Home Plate came from an explosive
volcanic event with water or ice being involved, he explains. We saw where
rocks were thrown into the air and landed to make small indentations in the
soft, wet ash sediment around the vent.

Once alerted what to look for, 

Re: [meteorite-list] Observed lunar meteorite impacts hit 100

2008-05-23 Thread lebofsky
Hello Jerry:

Good summary!

There are actually other compositional (spectral) classes of asteroids,
but you hit on the main ones. While most C-asteroids are wet, some
appear to be dry (at least on their surfaces). Also, there are wet
M-asteroids, which are clearly NOT metallic, but it is not yet clear what
they really are.

And yes, a dead comet may look spectrally like an asteroid!

Larry

On Fri, May 23, 2008 1:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --===0089808818==


 There is a large distinction between the classical comets and the
 classical asteroids. Comet Hale-Bopp or Huykatake could never be confused
 for an asteroid. On the other hand there are comets that are almost spent
 out such as P/Arend-Regeaux which at often times appears stellar like
 through even the largest telescopes. Then there is P/Schwassmann-Wachmann
 1 which travels in a near circular orbit and is quite faint and stellar
 appearing until it goes into an out burst approximately once per month. I
 have monitored this comet for years and it can brighten very rapidly
 several hundred fold and produce a coma. It may or may not be tied into
 the rotation due to the out bursts are not predictable and can vary by 20
 to 60 days.

 For those of you who have been confused by all the classifications of
 comets and asteroids, here is a very simple, and I stress simple
 classification. It does not get into groups or families. I'm sure there
 are many mistakes and I take full responsibilty for the content.

 Near Earth Objects – Objects that approach the earth’s orbit.
 Atens – NEO’s with average orbital radii smaller than earth’s
 Apollos – NEO’s with average orbital radii greater than earth but cross
 earth’s orbit Amors – NEO’s with orbital radii between Mars and Earth’s
 and perihelia just outside Earth’s orbit.

 Main belt – Asteroids in roughly circular orbits between Mars and
 Jupiter, most have inclinations less than 30 degrees and eccentricities
 less than 0.4 C-type – Carbonaceous asteroids with spectra similar to
 carbonaceous chondrites and comprising 75% of known Main Belt asteroids,
 found in the outer reaches of the asteroid belt. S-type – Silicate rich
 asteroids with some metal but no carbon. Comprise about 17% of visible
 asteroids. M-type – Metal rich asteroids comprising about 10% of known
 asteroids. Possibly remnant core of differentiated body composed of
 nickel-iron. One problem is that some silicate compounds can mimic metal
 spectra. It is not yet clear whether all M-types are compositionally
 similar, or whether it is a label for several varieties which do not fit
 neatly into the main C and S classes. V-type – Basaltic type asteroids,
 very rare but evidently more than one with different histories exist for
 this type. Vesta is the namesake of this type.

 Trojan asteroids – Asteroids in roughly same orbit as a planet and found
 approximately 60 degrees ahead or behind the planet. Mars Trojans - has
 only two. Trojans - Jupiter has several hundred to several thousand, first
 ones to be discovered. Neptune Trojans -  is the only other gas giant to
 date with known Trojan asteroids. Spectra suggests that they are composed
 of water ice with a layer of dust and probably more akin to comets.

 Centaurs – Objects with orbits between the gas giants Jupiter and
 Neptune. Three of them have exhibited cometary behavior.


 Damocloids – Halley type objects some have retrograde orbits, all have
 high eccentricity orbits, a few have since been shone to be comets.

 Trans-Neptunian Objects
 Kuiper belt objects – extend from Neptune’s orbit to 55 AU from the Sun.
 All are icy bodies composed primarily of ammonia, methane and water
 Cubewanos – objects with roughly circular orbits and low inclination and
 not in resonance with Neptune. Plutinos – objects with eccentric orbits,
 often crossing Neptune’s orbit and inclinations of 10 to 25 degrees. Also
 in a 2 to 3 resonating orbit with Neptune. Pluto crosses Neptune’s orbit
 but due to inclination and resonation it cannot collide with the planet.
 Scattered Disc Objects – Poorly understood objects beyond Neptune in
 highly eccentric and highly inclined orbits that computer simulations
 revealed their orbits to be unstable.

 Ort Cloud – Vast region of space roughly 1000 times further than Kuiper
 Belt.
 Inner Ort Cloud – Also known as the Hills cloud, roughly 2000 to 20,000 AU
 and doughnut shaped. Probably the main source of comets. Outer Ort Cloud –
 Spherical shaped region with inner edge about 20,000 AU extending out to
 50,000 and possibly 100,000 AU or more than one light year.
 No known Ort Cloud Objects have been discovered beyond the Kuiper Belt.
 The only known Ort Cloud Objects are the long period comets that visit
 the inner solar system. All have high eccentricities and can even be in
 retrograde orbits.

 There are some comets that are confined to the asteroid belt. There have
 even been cases when a known asteroid has turned into a comet. And we
 have one 

[meteorite-list] Secrets of Mars' Suitability for Life May Be Down in the Dirt (Phoenix)

2008-05-23 Thread Ron Baalke

For Immediate Release

Contact:
Dr. John Marshall
1-650-810-0216
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dr. Richard Quinn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
1-415-577-0749

At SETI Institute:
Dr. Seth Shostak
1-650-960-4530
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

SECRETS OF MARS' SUITABILITY FOR LIFE MAY BE DOWN IN THE DIRT

Shortly after NASA's Phoenix lander settles onto Mars' frigid,
northern plains on May 25, it will undertake what is literally a
microscopic examination of the red sand beneath its feet.  By doing
so, it may find evidence that liquid water - generally agreed to be a
prerequisite of life - once pooled here.

Examination of the Martian soil is part of the task of a sophisticated
on-board instrument package known as MECA, for Microscopy,
Electrochemistry, and Conductivity Analyzer (MECA).  Two microscopes
are part of this package, and it is their close-up views that might
supply conclusive evidence for a watery past.  According to John
Marshall, a planetary geologist with the Carl Sagan Center at the SETI
Institute, this very detailed examination of the sand grains could
supply a vital clue as to whether Mars was ever conducive to life - or
if microscopic life might still have a foothold there.

Imaging is a big part of the Phoenix mission.  On the main deck of the
lander is a stereo camera that will provide landscape views.  The
camera on the robotic arm can see sand and pebbles.  But the MECA has
both a low-power optical microscope for scrutinizing a field-of-view
only millimeters in size, and an atomic force microscope able to make
a topographic map of soil particles with detail a thousand times
finer than its optical counterpart.  The atomic force microscope works
by means of a tiny stylus that feels its way over the sample.

Marshall's job is to interpret close-ups from the optical microscope
from a geologic perspective.  The size of the soil particles, as well
as their shape and surface texture, are all indicators of whether or
not liquid water was present.

If you see little clay particles, Marshall notes, you say ah, hah!
There's been aqueous weathering here - chemical alteration of the
grains.  It would be just like the clay you find in your back yard.

While that would be exciting, it's also possible that the soil
particles have simply been processed by the stirring up of ground ice
over thousands and millions of years.  That would be interesting, but
not revolutionary, says Marshall.

Richard Quinn, also at the SETI Institute's Carl Sagan Center, is
using MECA instruments to do a different kind of soil analysis: using
the type of wet chemistry you may remember from high school.  Within
the MECA package are four box-like receptacles, or reaction chambers,
each the size of a demitasse cup.  Their inside walls are covered,
polka-dot like, with 24 sensors. As Phoenix's robotic arm pulls soil
off the landscape, it deposits some  samples into these water-filled
chambers..

Adding these soil samples to water allows us to look for is soluble
salts, says Quinn.  Finding these would help establish what the prior
water history was at the landing site, and might give an indication if
this area of Mars was habitable.

In his lab at NASA's Ames Research Center, Quinn has set up equipment
that duplicates the reaction chambers aboard Phoenix.  He's also
collected samples of Mars analog soil samples from places on Earth
where conditions mimic those on the Red Planet.  On the basis of data
coming back from Phoenix, Quinn's assistants at Ames will choose a
soil sample and see if they can duplicate the results coming from tens
of millions of miles away.  It's a way of doing analysis by remote
control.

If MECA finds a sample with a significant salt content, and if that
same sample - when run through Phoenix's Thermal and Evolved-Gas
Analyzer instrument - also turns out to contain organics - Well, that
would be the best I could hope for. says Quinn.

Marshall is philosophical about doing laboratory science from a
distance to learn if Mars was ever a kinder, gentler world.  In a
hundred years, our view of the Red Planet has gone from a small, ruddy
dot imperfectly seen in an Earth-bound telescope to a detailed
scrutiny of the tiniest irregularities on a grain of martian sand, he
notes. It's more than remarkable.

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space picture of the Day - May 23, 2008

2008-05-23 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_23_2008.html 




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