[meteorite-list] Re-2: What's the type of the stone?

[bernd . pauli]

Hi Ma Lan, John and List,

http://www.esnips.com/web/chinaren76-Stone

A very dark crust (indicative of iron), a lot of heavily rusted metal stains, no
chondrules detectable, so my *guess* is: H chondrite, possibly Jilin (Kirin)?!

Best,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Finally, ice on Mars, craters on the moon, the surface of Jupiter, and meteorites explained!

[Darren Garrison]

Lots of gems in the interview, but the above mentioned ones start around 26:50.

http://theedgeam.com/spiritual/audio/Spiritually_Speaking_27th_July_2008.mp3
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Re: [meteorite-list] What's the type of the stone?

[JKGwilliam]

It's nearly impossible to make a guess when looking at a broken 
surface. If you polished a window on your specimen and took a picture 
of it reflecting it's surface back at the camera ( so the metal 
particles are bright), it would be much easier to see the 
interior.  This would make it easier for list members to give you 
their opinions.


Best,

John Gwilliam

At 01:45 PM 8/3/2008, Ma Lan wrote:

Hi list,

Could you tell me (or guess) the type of the stone by the following 
photo? H, L, or LL? Any suggestion will be deeply appreciated.




Best wishes,
Ma Lan
Beijing China




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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: More on Mitchell's Aliens

[Darren Garrison]

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:55:36 -0500, you wrote:

>How about the advanced benign visitors who are
>only passing through, don't want to land on our planet
>or any others in the system, are polite, friendly and
>considerate, with good manners -- all they want is to
>listen to our media, read our books, watch our movies,
>observe and record our culture, folklore, thoughts,
>beliefs, nursery rhymes, all of it. The Ideal Alien, right?

Well, at least they didn't swap the time dimension and one of the extended
spatial dimensions in an area around the core of the sun, allowing vast amounts
of time to pass in an instant, allowing the sun's core to turn into a cooled
ball of iron, causing the sun to suddenly go supernova.

(Waiting in hopes that at least one other person on the list'll recognize those
two books by the same author).
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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: More on Mitchell's Aliens

[Sterling K. Webb]

Hi,

I get 50 pages before they decide I've freeloaded
long enough. If you read ALL the reviews on Amazon,
you discover that all the detailed negative analysis is
way down the line and the glowing gushes are up front
(they are there to sell books, afterall).

Having read the first fifty pages with the technical
details and equations and their ham-handed "refutation"
of Fermi's Paradox, I lean toward the opinion of the
negative reviewers. Not that great. But, to be fair, I
only read the 50 pages.

Another recent study of the "problem" of Aliens is
Michaud's "Contact with Alien Civilizations." (Amazon
has reasonably priced used copies.) It's a lot meatier
(466 pages), and Michaud is a career diplomat, which is
bound to give you a different perspective on the Aliens
than the Planetary Defense guys have, but Michaud
dicusses conflict in some detail.

The truth is that no one person has thought more
about the in's and out's of dealing with Alien Trouble
than a hundred or so science fiction writers have. They've
put in thousands of man-years of thought, chewing this
very problem over. Still, after more than a century, the
intricate possibilities are far from exhausted and maybe
only just begun, as every few years somebody trots
out a totally new and fascinating possibility.

Here's a recent one.

How about the advanced benign visitors who are
only passing through, don't want to land on our planet
or any others in the system, are polite, friendly and
considerate, with good manners -- all they want is to
listen to our media, read our books, watch our movies,
observe and record our culture, folklore, thoughts,
beliefs, nursery rhymes, all of it. The Ideal Alien, right?

And to show us how grateful they are for this
opportinuty to do so, they give everybody on Earth
a little cellphone-like device -- ask for something, anything,
they will give it to you, IF you can give them something
cultural in trade -- in a word, if you can entertain them.

Want a fusion power plant the size of a toaster with
no radiation hazard? An replicator to duplicate any object
in any number of copies? A really big bomb? You name
it; it arrives within minutes -- no restrictions, everybody
gets what they ask for... exactly what they ask for.

What could be nicer than that?

Think the planet would survive a week?


Sterling K. Webb
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On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:29:09 -0400, you wrote:

>Looks like the whole book is viewable (but not downloadable as a PDF) on 
>Google
>books:
>
>http://books.google.com/books?id=vJdgajHfV2gC&dq=%22An+Introduction+to+Planetary+Defense%22&pg=PP1&ots=67HC8RVNcl&sig=mQXO5MZ6mOs9FOGYupEAwCVVqRE&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA40,M1

Nope, on further inspection, it is only select chapters available.
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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: More on Mitchell's Aliens

[Darren Garrison]

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:29:09 -0400, you wrote:

>Looks like the whole book is viewable (but not downloadable as a PDF) on Google
>books:
>
>http://books.google.com/books?id=vJdgajHfV2gC&dq=%22An+Introduction+to+Planetary+Defense%22&pg=PP1&ots=67HC8RVNcl&sig=mQXO5MZ6mOs9FOGYupEAwCVVqRE&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA40,M1

Nope, on further inspection, it is only select chapters available.
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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: More on Mitchell's Aliens

[Darren Garrison]

On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 18:53:27 -0400, you wrote:

>This is a little dated now...but I've had some difficulty in getting my
>first submission to the Meteorite list posted.
>
>There is an excellent discussion of the probabilities and possibilities of
>Alien visitation in a recent book by Travis Taylor entitled "An Introduction
>to Planetary Defense: A Study of Modern Warfare Applied to Extra-Terrestrial
>Invasion".

Looks like the whole book is viewable (but not downloadable as a PDF) on Google
books:

http://books.google.com/books?id=vJdgajHfV2gC&dq=%22An+Introduction+to+Planetary+Defense%22&pg=PP1&ots=67HC8RVNcl&sig=mQXO5MZ6mOs9FOGYupEAwCVVqRE&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA40,M1
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[meteorite-list] AD - Summer Sale

[David & Kitt Deyarmin]

I have a few items I would like to move so I'm going to offer them at 
reduced prices


The Pallasovka Sphere is new and I am not selling it yet.  I made this for 
Serge and I'm waiting for him to let me know his asking price. I left it in 
the photo as a size reference for the other pieces


If you're interested in buying it you can email me and I will put on a 
notification list once I know Serge's price



http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/Sale.jpg




I have 2 whole Uruacu specimens.  A 259 gram cleaned specimen and a 372 gram 
specimen that has not been cleaned.  I am asking 25 cents per gram.



I have 3 pieces of Libyan Glass. The 161 gram end cut is the best since it 
has a flat cut surface, the other 2 pieces have a curved cut surfaces from 
the core bit that is used to make my spheres.  I will accept any reasonable 
offer for any or all of these pieces



If you're interested in anything send an email off list to 
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Thanks 


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[meteorite-list] FW: More on Mitchell's Aliens

[Wayne Dodd]

This is a little dated now...but I've had some difficulty in getting my
first submission to the Meteorite list posted.

There is an excellent discussion of the probabilities and possibilities of
Alien visitation in a recent book by Travis Taylor entitled "An Introduction
to Planetary Defense: A Study of Modern Warfare Applied to Extra-Terrestrial
Invasion".

http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Planetary-Defense-Extra-Terrestrial-Invas
ion/dp/1581124473/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217611621&sr=1-5

Taylor is a highly educated and accredited scientist who works for NASA in
Huntsville, AL.
The book is actually a serious work on the title subject, but the first 1/3
of the book relates to the relevant question regarding Aliens and the
probability of a visit. In addition to the issues around the time it takes
to travel from planet to planet across the galaxy, he explores questions of
what the aliens would be like (not the anthropomorphic kind) and even if
they would be able to survive in the environment of the Earth.

It's an interesting read.

Regards,
Wayne Dodd



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[meteorite-list] What's the type of the stone?

[Ma Lan]

Hi list,

Could you tell me (or guess) the type of the stone by the following photo? H, 
L, or LL? Any suggestion will be deeply appreciated.

http://www.esnips.com/web/chinaren76-Stone

Best wishes,
Ma Lan
Beijing China



  
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[meteorite-list] Great Planet Debate Conference

[lebofsky]

Dear Listserv:

As a participant, I just received this email.

The conference is not open to the general public, but if you are an
educator, the last day is set aside for educators and scientists to
discuss the subject.

Of possible interest to you is the debate that is being webcast on August
14. This is open to anyone and if interested, you should register for it.

Depending on my time, and space in the next issue, I will be writing about
the meeting for the November or February issue of Meteorite magazine.

I will be giving an invited talk and am on two panels, so it will be a
busy three days for me.

*

THE GREAT PLANET DEBATE: SCIENCE AS PROCESS

Dear Colleagues,

"The Great Planet Debate" (GPD) conference at the Johns Hopkins University
Applied Physics Laboratory will be held August 14-16, 2008.

This includes two days of scientific sessions to discuss and debate
the processes leading to planetary formation and characteristics and
various criteria by which planets can be defined and categorized. An
educator's workshop follows on the third day, to discuss how the planet
debate can be used to explain science as a process.

The final program is now available at:

http://gpd.jhuapl.edu/schedule

The abstracts are posted at:

http://gpd.jhuapl.edu/abstracts

An open-to-the-public debate between Dr. Mark Sykes of the Planetary
Science Institute and Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson of the American Museum
of Natural History will start at 4:30 pm EDT on August 14th. The
debate, which will be moderated by Ira Flatow (the host of Science
Friday on National Public Radio) is free and will be streamed live on
the web.

To register for web and in-person participation in the GPD conference,
go to

http://gpd.jhuapl.edu/

With best regards,

Hal Weaver (GPD LOC Chair)

*

For my own interest, please let me know if you plan on registering for the
webcast. This will help me get a feel for listserv's (and Meteorite
magazine readers') interest in the subject.

Thanks.

Larry

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[meteorite-list] Matsue, Japan Met Soc meeting concludes 28July-1Aug

[drtanuki]

Dear Metlist members, 

  The 71st Annual Meteoritical Society meeting at Matsue, Japan  has concluded. 
 Any report?

Best Alwaysm  Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] Target Earth in Aug NG

[bernd . pauli]

There us an interesting article entitled "Target Earth" in the August
issue of the National Geographic Magazine. You can read the entire
article online at:
 
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/08/earth-scars/stone-text

Hi Dirk, List, German List members,

The same article can also be found in the German edition of the
August issue of the National Geographic Magazine (pp. 56-71).

Best,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Target Earth in Aug NG

[drtanuki]

There us an interesting article entitled "Target Earth" in the August
issue of the National Geographic Magazine. You can read the entire
article online at:

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2008/08/earth-scars/stone-text

Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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