[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 18, 2008

2008-12-18 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/December_18_2008.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 18, 2008

2008-12-18 Thread Jerry Flaherty

gorgeous picture Andrei.
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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - December 17, 2008

2008-12-18 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
December 17, 2008

o Scoured Crater Rim 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010369_2065

o North Polar Layered Deposits 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010366_2590

o Complex Crater in Arabia Terra 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010354_2165

o Cyane Fossae Pits
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010345_2150

o Sedimentary Layers in Columbus Crater
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_010281_1510

o Terraced Fan in Aeolis Region
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009729_1735

o Fretted Terrain Valley Traverse
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009719_2230

o Small Crater on Arcuate Ridge West of Olympia Mensae
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009717_2545

o Mesa in Acidalia Region
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009709_2155

All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.
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[meteorite-list] Cosmic Diamonds May Be Hidden in 'Carbon Onions'

2008-12-18 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16259-cosmic-diamonds-may-be-hidden-in-carbon-o
  
Cosmic diamonds may be hidden in 'carbon onions'
by Rachel Courtland
New Scientist
12 December 2008

An exotic carbon structure could explain why astronomers have seen very
little diamond dust in the universe.

Since the 1980s, researchers have puzzled over the origin of
nanodiamonds, tiny diamond deposits preserved in meteorites, such as
the Allende meteorite that landed in Mexico in 1969.

These tiny diamonds make up roughly 3% of the carbon in the rocks. That
suggests nanodiamonds should abound in clouds of interstellar gas and dust, 
possibly forged in the fiery blasts of previous supernovae.

But so far, signs of diamonds have only been found in the dusty discs
around three young stars. Strangely, the diamonds are found close to the
stars, as opposed to being distributed more evenly in the space around
them. That hints that they were not left over from ancient stellar
explosions but may have formed near the stars, at comparatively low
pressures.

Now researchers led by Miwa Goto http://www.mpia-hd.mpg.de/~mgoto/ of
the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy in Heidelberg, Germany, say they
have come up with an explanation.

Nanodiamonds may be hidden from view in many places because they form
within carbon onions, exotic structures made up of concentric layers
of graphite that can form in dusty material that is blasted with
high-energy particles, the researchers say.
  
Right conditions

Carbon onions have been used to forge nanodiamonds on Earth. At high
temperatures, researchers bombard the layered graphite with electrons.
This knocks atoms out of the onions' outer shells, forcing the remaining
atoms in the shells to rearrange and close ranks. The shells therefore
squeeze inwards, eventually creating enough pressure at the centre of
the onion to form diamond.

But conditions must be just right to produce diamonds in carbon onions
around stars. A star must eject enough charged particles to turn onions
into pressure cells.

Then, in order for astronomers to see the diamonds, one of two
conditions must be met. There must either be a nearby source of X-rays
that could slough off the outer layer of the onion to reveal the
underlying gems, or the onions themselves must be warm enough - more
than 300 Degrees C - for the entire carbon onion to be turned into a 
nanodiamond.

The three stars that boast signs of diamonds are all massive young stars
called Herbig Ae/Be stars. Notably, they all seem to have the required
conditions to create carbon onion diamonds, Goto says.

Two of the stars have binary companion stars that emit large flares that
could blast charged particles towards the onions. The other has a nearby
X-ray source that has yet to be identified. All have dusty discs that
are warm enough to sustain diamond growth.

Diamonds in the rough

It's a new idea that should definitely be taken seriously, says Louis
Allamandola of NASA's Ames Research Center in Moffett Field, California, 
who has studied cosmic diamonds.

But he adds that it's not clear how well the diamonds would survive
continued irradiation by stellar flares. If they can't cool down fast
enough, they just basically erode, atoms just boil off, Allamandola
told New Scientist.

Light from carbon onions may resemble that from other forms of carbon,
making it difficult to confirm whether such structures orbit the star.

But carbon onions have been found in meteorites, including Allende. If
future studies reveal nanodiamonds within those carbon onions, it would
bolster the case that the universe is sprinkled with diamonds in the rough.

Journal reference: Astrophysical Journal
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/apJ/ (forthcoming)

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Re: [meteorite-list] heavily encrusted dark grey interior - large find?

2008-12-18 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum

Hi Phil,
My first reaction is:  some kind of slag?  It's amazing the different kinds 
of slag people bring into the museum as possible meteorites.


Phil Whitmer 


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[meteorite-list] Scientists Find 'Missing' Mineral and Clues to Mars Mysteries

2008-12-18 Thread Ron Baalke


Dec. 18, 2009

Steve Cole 
Headquarters, Washington 
202-657-2194 
stephen.e.c...@nasa.gov 

Guy Webster 
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 
818-354-6278 
guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 

Jennifer Huergo 
Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, Md. 
240-228-5618/443-778-5618 
jennifer.hue...@jhuapl.edu 

RELEASE: 08-331

SCIENTISTS FIND 'MISSING' MINERAL AND CLUES TO MARS MYSTERIES

SAN FRANCISCO -- Researchers using a powerful instrument aboard NASA's 
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter have found a long sought-after mineral on 
the Martian surface and, with it, unexpected clues to the Red 
Planet's watery past. 

Surveying intact bedrock layers with the Compact Reconnaissance 
Imaging Spectrometer for Mars, or CRISM, scientists found carbonate 
minerals, indicating that Mars had neutral to alkaline water when the 
minerals formed at these locations more than 3.6 billion years ago. 
Carbonates, which on Earth include limestone and chalk, dissolve 
quickly in acid. Therefore, their survival until today on Mars 
challenges suggestions that an exclusively acidic environment later 
dominated the planet. Instead, it indicates that different types of 
watery environments existed. The greater the variety of wet 
environments, the greater the chances one or more of them may have 
supported life. 

We're excited to have finally found carbonate minerals because they 
provide more detail about conditions during specific periods of Mars' 
history, said Scott Murchie, principal investigator for the 
instrument at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory 
in Laurel, Md. 

The findings will appear in the Dec. 19 issue of Science magazine and 
were announced Thursday at a briefing at the American Geophysical 
Union's Fall Meeting in San Francisco. 

Carbonate rocks are created when water and carbon dioxide interact 
with calcium, iron or magnesium in volcanic rocks. Carbon dioxide 
from the atmosphere becomes trapped within the rocks. If all of the 
carbon dioxide locked in Earth's carbonates were released, our 
atmosphere would be thicker than that of Venus. Some researchers 
believe that a thick, carbon dioxide-rich atmosphere kept ancient 
Mars warm and kept water liquid on its surface long enough to have 
carved the valley systems observed today. 

The carbonates that CRISM has observed are regional rather than 
global in nature, and therefore, are too limited to account for 
enough carbon dioxide to form a thick atmosphere, said Bethany 
Ehlmann, lead author of the article and a spectrometer team member 
from Brown University in Providence, R.I. 

Although we have not found the types of carbonate deposits which 
might have trapped an ancient atmosphere, Ehlmann said, we have 
found evidence that not all of Mars experienced an intense, acidic 
weathering environment 3.5 billion years ago, as has been proposed. 
We've found at least one region that was potentially more hospitable 
to life. 

The article reports clearly defined carbonate exposures in bedrock 
layers surrounding the 925-mile diameter Isidis impact basin, which 
formed more than 3.6 billion years ago. The best-exposed rocks occur 
along a trough system called Nili Fossae, which is 414 miles long, at 
the edge of the basin. The region has rocks enriched in olivine, a 
mineral that can react with water to form carbonate. 

This discovery of carbonates in an intact rock layer, in contact with 
clays, is an example of how joint observations by CRISM and the 
telescopic cameras on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter are revealing 
details of distinct environments on Mars, said Sue Smrekar, deputy 
project scientist for the orbiter at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory 
in Pasadena, Calif. 

NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander discovered carbonates in soil samples. 
Researchers had previously found them in Martian meteorites that fell 
to Earth and in windblown Mars dust observed from orbit. However, the 
dust and soil could be mixtures from many areas, so the carbonates' 
origins have been unclear. The latest observations indicate 
carbonates may have formed over extended periods on early Mars. They 
also point to specific locations where future rovers and landers 
could search for possible evidence of past life. 

The Applied Physics Laboratory led the effort to build the Compact 
Reconnaissance Imaging Spectrometer for Mars and operates the 
instrument in coordination with an international team of researchers 
from universities, government and the private sector. NASA's Jet 
Propulsion Laboratory manages the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter mission 
for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. 

For more information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, visit: 

http://www.nasa.gov/mro  

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[meteorite-list] Ad. ebay auctions ending in 1 day. Murchison, Tucson, La Criolla

2008-12-18 Thread Eduardo.
Hi
My last auction pre-Tucson is ending in one day.
Most of the specimens started at 0.99 and there are still many at that price
Some of them worth a look, even if you are not a buyer, like the 96.6g
Murchison.
Just follow this link:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZsmfmeteorites
Eduardo
IMCA #0645

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[meteorite-list] 15.8g BARWELL FREE overnite shipping , ANYWHERE

2008-12-18 Thread mckinney trammell
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=290283954154ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=019
   have is EXCELLENT piece of a CHRISTMAS EVE FALL by CHRISTMAS.


  
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[meteorite-list] KILLER TENHAM METEORITE INDIVIDUAL FOR SALE ON EBAY

2008-12-18 Thread Bob WALKER

Listoids

EEK - maybe the first time I have ever posted two adds in a week but perhaps 
this depends on what day is the weekly cutoff ?


I'll apologise now but this one is an exception rather than the rule - I do 
not sell often but from time to time offer something prestigious and unique


KILLER TENHAM INDIVIDUAL FOR SALE ON EBAY

A CLASSIC OBLONG TENHAM SLAB WITH A SUBTLE HINT OF THUMPRINTING

A MUST HAVE DROP DEAD GORGEOUS MUSEUM QUALITY SPECIMEN FOR YOUR DISPLAY 
CABINET


A BEAUTIFUL VERY FRESH CRUSTED SPECIMEN

see it at 
http://cgi.ebay.com/KILLER-TENHAM-METEORITE-INDIVIDUAL_W0QQitemZ230315147905QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item230315147905_trksid=p3286.c0.m14_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50


http://www.qmig.org 


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[meteorite-list] New LL5 Meteorite - NWA 5511 (provisional)

2008-12-18 Thread Greg Catterton
I would like to announce my first officially classified meteorite, NWA 5511 
(provisional) 
NWA 5511 was a single stone that weighed 387 grams and a slice was tested by 
Ted Bunch to be a LL5. It was then assigned the name/number NWA 5511.

Here is a picture of the meteorite before cutting:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/387gNWA.jpg

and here is a picture of some of it after cutting:
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/uNWAmaterial.jpg

I hope I announced this correctly, it is my first time doing this.

I would like to publicly thank Ted Bunch for taking the time to do this for me!


Greg
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com


  

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[meteorite-list] not an add more a comment on the haphazard and somewhat ludicrous export laws in oz

2008-12-18 Thread Bob WALKER

Listoids

I've received export approval for Tenham in less than an hour - it would 
have been quicker had I just telephoned directly...


And yet in other cases it has to meander through a different administrative 
path and take 6 to 8 weeks - more if there is a dissenting opinion from an 
expert examiner and heaven forbid how long an appeal would take


Its a mess here in Australia - Martin Altmann stated it succintly in his 
usual pithy manner when he said Australia is doomed to be a backwater from a 
historical perspective


I'm damned if I know if there is anything that can be done - some of the 
current personalities who run the museum roosts have opinions that 
meteorites are not something that should be held in public hands and are 
unwilling to admit that the endstate of their opinions has been unfortunate 
in the long run


Ciao

http://www.qmig.org 


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[meteorite-list] MeteoriteWatch.com Forum Changes

2008-12-18 Thread Eric Wichman

Hi guys and gals,

Anyone who is a member of the MeteoriteWatch.com forums should know that 
there's been a few changes to the forums. I've merged a total of 4 of 
the meteorite forums into 2 broad forum categories to make it easier to 
post relevant content. Below is a list of changes.


MERGED POSTS FROM: Meteorite Collecting  Specimen Displays forum

INTO

Meteorite Preparation, Preservation  Repair forum

Changed Forum Name To: Meteorite Collecting Forum

ALSO MERGED POSTS FROM: Meteorite Hunting, Adventures  Outings forum

INTO

Meteorite Identification forum

Changed Forum Name To: Meteorite Hunting  Identification

All members posts are in appropriate and relevant categories. Only the 
location and name of the forum has changed to better organize the site. 
I've also change the order of the forums as well by moving them closer 
to the top of the page to make it faster to find the correct forum to 
post topics.


Hopefully you guys will like the changes. Any suggestions or complaints 
will be promptly replied to.


Regards,
Eric Wichman

P.S. If you're not a member already what are you waiting for Join Now: 
www.meteoritewatch.com





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[meteorite-list] NASA Publication - Exploring Meteorite Mysteries (for teachers)

2008-12-18 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi folks!

This is another heads up about a great meteorite-related item for
teachers and people doing outreach work involving space sciences :

It's a comprehensive lesson plan for teachers that covers all aspects
of meteorites - falls, types, craters, parent bodies, chemistry, and
more.  It also has some great ideas for demonstrations and hands-on
activities.  The publication is from 1997, so some of the information
is a little dated, but the majority of it is still accurate.  There
is also a filmstrip and meteorite sample kit that NASA will send to
accompany this lesson plan (on request) - although I don't know if
they are still doing this and I don't have these materials myself,
just the book.

The book is about 200+ doubles-sided pages that have 3-holes for a
ring binder.  Best of all, the book is PUBLIC DOMAIN and no
permission is needed to duplicate it.  It is aimed towards students
from Grades 5 through 12.  (pretty good coverage)

In the near future, I am going to run off a couple of copies at
Kinkos for loaner distribution to friends of mine who are teachers,
and if anyone here on the list is interested, contact me offlist.

Here are a few photos of the book (which is unbound) - My copy was
brand new and still in the cellophane.

http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/NASA/

More good news - Amazon.com has ONE copy of this book for sale for
$20!  Here is a link.  (I am not affiliated with the seller in any
way) -

http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Meteorite-Mysteries-Teachers-Activities/dp/B0010XXSS2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1229646974sr=8-1

Regards and Happy Holidays!

MikeG


.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Publication - Exploring Meteorite Mysteries(for teachers)

2008-12-18 Thread Rose, David MD
Michael, You can get it for free here:

http://www.outofthecradle.net/archives/2007/05/exploring-meteorite-myste
ries/

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Gilmer
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:48 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA Publication - Exploring Meteorite
Mysteries(for teachers)

Hi folks!

This is another heads up about a great meteorite-related item for
teachers and people doing outreach work involving space sciences :

It's a comprehensive lesson plan for teachers that covers all aspects
of meteorites - falls, types, craters, parent bodies, chemistry, and
more.  It also has some great ideas for demonstrations and hands-on
activities.  The publication is from 1997, so some of the information
is a little dated, but the majority of it is still accurate.  There
is also a filmstrip and meteorite sample kit that NASA will send to
accompany this lesson plan (on request) - although I don't know if
they are still doing this and I don't have these materials myself,
just the book.

The book is about 200+ doubles-sided pages that have 3-holes for a
ring binder.  Best of all, the book is PUBLIC DOMAIN and no
permission is needed to duplicate it.  It is aimed towards students
from Grades 5 through 12.  (pretty good coverage)

In the near future, I am going to run off a couple of copies at
Kinkos for loaner distribution to friends of mine who are teachers,
and if anyone here on the list is interested, contact me offlist.

Here are a few photos of the book (which is unbound) - My copy was
brand new and still in the cellophane.

http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/NASA
/

More good news - Amazon.com has ONE copy of this book for sale for
$20!  Here is a link.  (I am not affiliated with the seller in any
way) -

http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Meteorite-Mysteries-Teachers-Activities/
dp/B0010XXSS2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1229646974sr=8-1

Regards and Happy Holidays!

MikeG


.
Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
Member of the Meteoritical Society.
Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and http://www.glassthrower.com
MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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[meteorite-list] AD: PreSale Announcement - Meteorites USA

2008-12-18 Thread Eric Wichman

Dear list members,

If you're not on my list get on it now...

Starting this weekend and running until the 1st of the year all NWA 
meteorites are at Below Wholesale prices.


Everything is going on sale. And I mean ALL meteorites I have except for 
a few from my personal collection will be sold!


If you've been waiting on a Christmas deal this is it. I have tens of 
kilos of material being photographed as we speak. I will not be 
releasing prices until the sale starts on Friday Dec 19th. Look for it.


Because the prices are so low and this material will move fast, you're 
going to want to be notified first. There's no second chances on this 
deal. Once these meteorites are gone they are gone.


Go to my website now and get on my sale list! 
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/newsletter/


Don't wait until tomorrow, or the next day for this, if you do it will 
be too late.


There will be lot's of chondrites, mesosiderites, H's, L's, irons, 
pallasites, and a couple etched irons as well.


Brenham Pallasite (polished slices)
Franconia H5
Canyon Diablo
NWA 869
NWA 2754
Bassikounou
Odessa
NWA XXX
NWA Slices
Whole Stones
Fusion Crusted Pieces
Fragments
Micro Mounts
and more...

Get on that list now so you'll get first dibs.

Talk to you soon...

Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA


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[meteorite-list] Large Fireball Sighted in Florida Sky

2008-12-18 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.wptv.com/content/coastal/story/Large-fireball-sighted-in-the-sky/DdigToZTi

Large fireball sighted in the sky
WPTV
December 18, 2008

PALM BEACH COUNTY, FL -- Numerous reports of a large fireball in the sky
were called into 911 dispatchers and our NewsChannel 5 newsroom Thursday
evening.

Viewers reported a large green and blue fireball falling from the
southern sky around 4:55pm.

Initial reports were a possible plane on fire in the sky but law
enforcement officials confirmed no reports of aircrafts down.

Local astronomers believe it was a fireball, which is bigger and
brighter than an average meteor.

There were no reports it made impact into the ground, which would be a
meteorite.

The Geminids Meteor showers usually peak around this time of year and
can be viewed to the east late at night.

If you have videos or photos you would like to share with NewsChannel 5,
you can call our newsroom at (561) 653-5700 and email us at
newst...@wptv.com 

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[meteorite-list] New Glorieta knife Ad/sale

2008-12-18 Thread Mike Miller
Hi Everyone for those interested I have up loaded the newest Glorieta
Damascus meteorite knife up on my web site, they have been selling
very quick so if you are interested in one better have a look. The
last one never even made it to the public, it was snapped up before
everyone had a chance to see it. Here is a link
http://www.meteoritefinder.com/whats-new-sale.htm  It has etched
Glorieta bolsters and Chinga spacers. Thanks to all

-- 
Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401
www.meteoritefinder.com
 928-753-6825
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Re: [meteorite-list] heavily encrusted dark grey interior - largefind?

2008-12-18 Thread John.L.Cabassi

G'Day Phil W.
I sincerely doubt that what Phil has is slag, that's just my opinion. I also 
have a large specimen of 1514 grams and it really is unique. What he has 
described is very similar to what I have and I have forward him pictures and 
he has replied that what he has and I have are very similar.  So we'll see 
what we come up with.


Thanks for your input, it's really appreciated.

Cheers
John


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largefind?




Hi Phil,
My first reaction is:  some kind of slag?  It's amazing the different 
kinds of slag people bring into the museum as possible meteorites.


Phil Whitmer
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[meteorite-list] meteorite blooper of the year

2008-12-18 Thread Bob WALKER

Listoids

I'm getting questions about my backside... of my Tenham of course

Because I describe it as a slab I am asked does this mean the backside is 
sawn - in this case no


Maybe I can't understand a dictionary too well but I thought slab was 
defined as broad, flat, thick piece, as of stone (or cheese for that matter)


And why am I babbling about this

Its reminded me of an olde sale on ebay - the chondrite was described as 
having a nicely crusted backside - cant remember who sold it now but it gave 
me a giggle or two at the time - in fact it reminded me of a girl I used to 
know...


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[meteorite-list] Meteor Sighting in Arizona and caught on film

2008-12-18 Thread Arizona Keith

Hello List

Just found this
Meteor Sighting in Arizona and caught on film on 12-18-2008
Video on Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmY6j1TvoU

Thanks for your time

Keith
Chandler
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Re: [meteorite-list] heavily encrusted dark grey interior - largefind?

2008-12-18 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Hi John,  I agree with you.  It looks  like a meteorite.

Certain meteorites have weird (Is that the official  scientific term?) 
adhesion properties.  I have seen some scoured by the  desert sand and other 
who 
seem to grab every piece of sand/rock and make it  stick.  It must have 
something to do with the desert varnish that is  growing around the native 
material 
or perhaps simple mineral migration due to  weathering.

I have a 7.3 Kg NWA that looks like it is completely  encrusted in jewels.  
Fine sand bits all over!  It is beautiful and  unlike ant other I have seen.  
It has a brown interior so not a match to  yours. 

I am embedding images.  (I am sending this email to the list  without 
pictures so if any one else wants to see the photos, just email  me).

Tom Phillips


In a message dated 12/18/2008 7:59:14 P.M.  Mountain Standard Time, 
j...@cabassi.net writes:
G'Day Phil W.
I sincerely  doubt that what Phil has is slag, that's just my opinion. I also 
have a  large specimen of 1514 grams and it really is unique. What he has 
described  is very similar to what I have and I have forward him pictures and 
he has  replied that what he has and I have are very similar.  So we'll see  
what we come up with.

Thanks for your input, it's really  appreciated.

Cheers
John


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largefind?


 Hi Phil,
 My first reaction is:  some  kind of slag?  It's amazing the different 
 kinds of slag people  bring into the museum as possible meteorites.

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Re: [meteorite-list] heavily encrusted dark grey interior -largefind?

2008-12-18 Thread John.L.Cabassi

G'Day Tom
Thanks for your reply.  I will personally accept weird as an official 
scientific term.  I tend to use it alot. And I agree on your very 
descriptive term of encrusted in jewels.


Your images are more than fantastic.  Keep up the great work. I can't get 
enough of it!


Cheers
John

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Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 7:32 PM
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interior -largefind?




Hi John,  I agree with you.  It looks  like a meteorite.

Certain meteorites have weird (Is that the official  scientific term?)
adhesion properties.  I have seen some scoured by the  desert sand and 
other who

seem to grab every piece of sand/rock and make it  stick.  It must have
something to do with the desert varnish that is  growing around the native 
material

or perhaps simple mineral migration due to  weathering.

I have a 7.3 Kg NWA that looks like it is completely  encrusted in jewels.
Fine sand bits all over!  It is beautiful and  unlike ant other I have 
seen.

It has a brown interior so not a match to  yours.

I am embedding images.  (I am sending this email to the list  without
pictures so if any one else wants to see the photos, just email  me).

Tom Phillips


In a message dated 12/18/2008 7:59:14 P.M.  Mountain Standard Time,
j...@cabassi.net writes:
G'Day Phil W.
I sincerely  doubt that what Phil has is slag, that's just my opinion. I 
also

have a  large specimen of 1514 grams and it really is unique. What he has
described  is very similar to what I have and I have forward him pictures 
and
he has  replied that what he has and I have are very similar.  So we'll 
see

what we come up with.

Thanks for your input, it's really  appreciated.

Cheers
John


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To:  meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008  11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] heavily encrusted dark grey interior -
largefind?



Hi Phil,
My first reaction is:  some  kind of slag?  It's amazing the different
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Re: [meteorite-list] NASA Publication - Exploring Meteorite Mysteries (for teachers)

2008-12-18 Thread Pat Brown
Hi Michael and the List,

This book is available as a free .pdf file at:

http://books.google.com/books?id=vbF-ZLb7608Cprintsec=frontcoverdq=teachers+guide+to+meteoriteslr=as_brr=1as_pt=ALLTYPES
 or just do a google book search and you will find it. 

With Best Regards, 
  Pat
  Scientific Lifestyle Meteorites


--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Michael Gilmer michael_w_gil...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] NASA Publication - Exploring Meteorite Mysteries 
 (for teachers)
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 4:47 PM
 Hi folks!
 
 This is another heads up about a great meteorite-related
 item for
 teachers and people doing outreach work involving space
 sciences :
 
 It's a comprehensive lesson plan for teachers that
 covers all aspects
 of meteorites - falls, types, craters, parent bodies,
 chemistry, and
 more.  It also has some great ideas for demonstrations and
 hands-on
 activities.  The publication is from 1997, so some of the
 information
 is a little dated, but the majority of it is still
 accurate.  There
 is also a filmstrip and meteorite sample kit that NASA will
 send to
 accompany this lesson plan (on request) - although I
 don't know if
 they are still doing this and I don't have these
 materials myself,
 just the book.
 
 The book is about 200+ doubles-sided pages that have
 3-holes for a
 ring binder.  Best of all, the book is PUBLIC DOMAIN and no
 permission is needed to duplicate it.  It is aimed towards
 students
 from Grades 5 through 12.  (pretty good coverage)
 
 In the near future, I am going to run off a couple of
 copies at
 Kinkos for loaner distribution to friends of mine who are
 teachers,
 and if anyone here on the list is interested, contact me
 offlist.
 
 Here are a few photos of the book (which is unbound) - My
 copy was
 brand new and still in the cellophane.
 
 http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/Meteorites/NASA/
 
 More good news - Amazon.com has ONE copy of this book for
 sale for
 $20!  Here is a link.  (I am not affiliated with the seller
 in any
 way) -
 
 http://www.amazon.com/Exploring-Meteorite-Mysteries-Teachers-Activities/dp/B0010XXSS2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1229646974sr=8-1
 
 Regards and Happy Holidays!
 
 MikeG
 
 
 .
 Michael Gilmer (Louisiana, USA)
 Member of the Meteoritical Society.
 Member of the Bayou Region Stargazers Network.
 Websites - http://www.galactic-stone.com and
 http://www.glassthrower.com
 MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale
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