Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite vs Mesosiderite
Hi Al, Pete and others, Thank you for the explanation. Visually, I've always thought mesosiderites were similar to H Chondrites but only with much more iron sprinkled thruout...sort of like Super H Chondrites. Nice to have such a clear answer. Great question, Pete. Carl Al Mitterling wrote: ...Missing in mesosiderites (in any abundance) is olivine, the most abundant mineral in ordinary chondrites... _ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows Vista®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] If you're Bored I need a Web Site Check
Try http://www.dead-links.com/ Mark David Kitt Deyarmin wrote: I had to migrate my web site to a new server and had to go into all of the pages associated with my site to change the URLS. If you are very good at surfing and have lots of time on you hands please verify that I don;t have any broken links on my site. You can click this to get to it. http://home.roadrunner.com/~bobadebt/ From the main page you can click on any sphere title and go to a history page and in those pages I have several links to other pages on my site. I don't think I missed anything but a second set of eyes wouldn't hurt. All links to other sites should still work. If you find anything please let me know via email at bobadebt at ec.rr.com Thanks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 29/12/2008 10:48 -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meso vs. pallasite
Hi list and all.If you go from one end of the spectrum to the other,my opinion,estherville is the KING of the meso's and esquel is the KING of the pallasites.Both as stable as a fresh new fall in a dry location.Good day all!Tucson, 38 days to go. Steve R.Arnold,Chicago! a rel=nofollow target=_blank href=http://chicagometeorites.net/;http://chicagometeorites.net//a __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The hunt for green crystals in Udei Station
List, While searching various web sites I stumbled across some nice images of green crystals (Olivine?) found in various cut faces of Udei Station. These crystals are a deep emerald green and very striking. So, I thought I would look and my slice and after a few minutes of searching found a solitary single crystal. Anyone else out there with a scope and some Udei Station may want to hunt for these little gems. Here is a pic: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5285588073310892626 Cheers Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pallasite vs Mesosiderite
Likewise, Thanks guys for clearing that up for me as well. I really get allot out of your infomails. Ted Betz -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Carl 's Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 3:37 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pallasite vs Mesosiderite Hi Al, Pete and others, Thank you for the explanation. Visually, I've always thought mesosiderites were similar to H Chondrites but only with much more iron sprinkled thruout...sort of like Super H Chondrites. Nice to have such a clear answer. Great question, Pete. Carl Al Mitterling wrote: ...Missing in mesosiderites (in any abundance) is olivine, the most abundant mineral in ordinary chondrites... _ Life on your PC is safer, easier, and more enjoyable with Windows VistaR. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/127032870/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The hunt for green crystals in Udei Station
Hi Mike and All, that's very interesting! I found a similar - about 2 mm wide - green inclusion in a slice of my Steinbach meteorite. See here (scroll down to: Germany, Steinbach, 2nd slice: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id3.html Further infos highly appreciated:-) Peter Marmet 2008/12/30 tett t...@rogers.com: List, While searching various web sites I stumbled across some nice images of green crystals (Olivine?) found in various cut faces of Udei Station. These crystals are a deep emerald green and very striking. So, I thought I would look and my slice and after a few minutes of searching found a solitary single crystal. Anyone else out there with a scope and some Udei Station may want to hunt for these little gems. Here is a pic: http://picasaweb.google.com/MikeTettenborn/Meteorites#5285588073310892626 Cheers Mike Tettenborn Owen Sound, Ontario __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The hunt for green crystals in Udei Station
Hi Mike, Peter and List, Peter writes: I found a similar - about 2 mm wide - green inclusion in a slice of my Steinbach meteorite Mike T. writes: Anyone else out there with a scope and some Udei Station may want to hunt for these little gems These emerald green gems are pyroxene crystals - augite to be exact! You find them in several irons, especially the silicate-bearing ones like these that I have in my collection: - Udei Station - Landes - Miles (from Martin Horejsi's collection) - Patagonia (Remember Mike Farmer's emerald green jewel in one of his specimens!?) - Caddo County [not (yet) in my collection] Hope everyone had a wonderful Xmas and is looking forward to a Happy, Peaceful 2009! Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball Streaks Over California
http://www.mercedsunstar.com/167/story/615048.html Fireball streaks across night sky over Merced By SCOTT JASON Merced Sun-Star December 30, 2008 A glowing tomato-green fireball shot through the black Merced sky early Saturday, stunning those fortunate enough to see its brief life. Merced resident Erika Knorn, 42, had awoken just before 2 a.m. to take her dog, Shadow, to the bathroom before returning to bed. She gazed toward the sky and noticed the burst of color above her house near East Olive and Parsons avenues. Erika Knorn describes witnessing a spectacular fireball in the sky above Merced early Saturday morning. Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh! What is that? she recalled saying that night as if someone would answer. Oh my gosh! Was it a flare? she wondered. Was it a missile? The flash, which resembled a bright white beach ball, moved in a northwesterly descent for about six seconds, she said. Then it turned blue-green. Three waves of light pulsed through the sky. It then began releasing gold and white sparks. About a minute later she heard three sharp booms that startled her dog into barking a few times. Other dogs in the neighborhood began howling. She hasn't been able to get the image of it out of her head. It was beautiful and scary in a way, she explained Monday. I don't think I want to see one that close again. Knorn was pointed to www.spaceweather.com, which allows people to post stories about fireball sightings. There she found a few other accounts from people in Bishop in Inyo County, Corona in Riverside County and San Jose. Grant Bentley wrote, It was as if someone had set off a rescue flare that instantly bathed the countryside around Bishop in whitish blue-green light. It was easily the most massive object I have ever seen burning up as it entered the Earth's atmosphere. George Shirakawa was driving on Interstate 280 in San Jose at the time. He wrote, I have never seen anything like it! Arizona-based meteorite hunter Robert Ward said the noise Knorn heard was meteor crashing into land, thereby becoming a meteorite. Ward, 32, has gone on more than 30 successful meteorite expeditions in the Middle East, Europe, Africa and North America. He sells and trades some of the pieces he finds. Prices average at about $1 a gram, but can get as expensive as $1,000 a gram if the meteorite is from Mars or the moon. (A little more than 28 grams make an ounce.) Based on the descriptions he's read, Ward said Knorn and others probably saw a fireball, which is a brighter version of a meteor. Meteorites can be the size of microwave ovens and even refrigerators, he said. They travel between 11,000 and 30,000 miles an hour. The noise she heard means the meteorite may have gone to ground near or even in Merced County, he said. He's found space rocks 50 miles from people who've heard sonic booms. Ward is contacting people in the state who have sky cameras to see if he can re-create the meteor's path and begin a recovery effort. If I got the right information, I'd leave immediately, he said. The most common type of meteorite is a chondrite, which is mostly silicate but contains traces of nickel and iron. After seeing the fireball, Knorn stayed in her backyard and scanned the sky to see if any others would fall. I am going to start (meteor watching). It made me go, 'Wow, life,' she said. It changed my way of looking up. Reporter Scott Jason can be reached at (209) 385-2453 or sja...@mercedsun-star.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball Streaks Over California
I hope the author misquoted Robert Ward. I'm pretty sure he knows that the sound that was heard was a sonic boom, at fairly high altitude, and not the sound of a meteor crashing into land. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireball Streaks Over California http://www.mercedsunstar.com/167/story/615048.html Fireball streaks across night sky over Merced By SCOTT JASON Merced Sun-Star December 30, 2008 A glowing tomato-green fireball shot through the black Merced sky early Saturday, stunning those fortunate enough to see its brief life. Merced resident Erika Knorn, 42, had awoken just before 2 a.m. to take her dog, Shadow, to the bathroom before returning to bed. She gazed toward the sky and noticed the burst of color above her house near East Olive and Parsons avenues. Erika Knorn describes witnessing a spectacular fireball in the sky above Merced early Saturday morning. Oh my gosh! Oh my gosh! What is that? she recalled saying that night as if someone would answer. Oh my gosh! Was it a flare? she wondered. Was it a missile? The flash, which resembled a bright white beach ball, moved in a northwesterly descent for about six seconds, she said. Then it turned blue-green. Three waves of light pulsed through the sky. It then began releasing gold and white sparks. About a minute later she heard three sharp booms that startled her dog into barking a few times. Other dogs in the neighborhood began howling. She hasn't been able to get the image of it out of her head. It was beautiful and scary in a way, she explained Monday. I don't think I want to see one that close again. Knorn was pointed to www.spaceweather.com, which allows people to post stories about fireball sightings. There she found a few other accounts from people in Bishop in Inyo County, Corona in Riverside County and San Jose. Grant Bentley wrote, It was as if someone had set off a rescue flare that instantly bathed the countryside around Bishop in whitish blue-green light. It was easily the most massive object I have ever seen burning up as it entered the Earth's atmosphere. George Shirakawa was driving on Interstate 280 in San Jose at the time. He wrote, I have never seen anything like it! Arizona-based meteorite hunter Robert Ward said the noise Knorn heard was meteor crashing into land, thereby becoming a meteorite. Ward, 32, has gone on more than 30 successful meteorite expeditions in the Middle East, Europe, Africa and North America. He sells and trades some of the pieces he finds. Prices average at about $1 a gram, but can get as expensive as $1,000 a gram if the meteorite is from Mars or the moon. (A little more than 28 grams make an ounce.) Based on the descriptions he's read, Ward said Knorn and others probably saw a fireball, which is a brighter version of a meteor. Meteorites can be the size of microwave ovens and even refrigerators, he said. They travel between 11,000 and 30,000 miles an hour. The noise she heard means the meteorite may have gone to ground near or even in Merced County, he said. He's found space rocks 50 miles from people who've heard sonic booms. Ward is contacting people in the state who have sky cameras to see if he can re-create the meteor's path and begin a recovery effort. If I got the right information, I'd leave immediately, he said. The most common type of meteorite is a chondrite, which is mostly silicate but contains traces of nickel and iron. After seeing the fireball, Knorn stayed in her backyard and scanned the sky to see if any others would fall. I am going to start (meteor watching). It made me go, 'Wow, life,' she said. It changed my way of looking up. Reporter Scott Jason can be reached at (209) 385-2453 or sja...@mercedsun-star.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Perhaps another fall??
List, I don't know if any of you found the posting I made the other day about the possible CA fall interesting or not, but if so, here is a report on perhaps yet another ( ??? ) on the other side of the USA. *** NEW ENGLAND FIREBALL: Last night, Dec. 29th at 9:30 p.m. EST, sky watchers in Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, New York and New Jersey witnessed a magnitude -9 fireball that exploded colorfully in mid-flight. No one knows if fragments of the meteoroid reached the ground. Location: North Bay Shore, New York Comments: Dan Linek: At approximately 2130 EST, I was sitting in a car and noticed a quick bright light right in front of my eyes. It took me a couple of seconds to realize I had just seen the brightest meteor of my life. It came out of the eastern sky heading to the north about 20-30 degrees above the horizon near the constellation Cancer. It was a bright blue color with a hint of green and lasted about a half second to a full second. In that short time, it seemed as though there were a few pieces falling right below it but I do not think anything reached the ground. I estimate it was about a -9 magnitude based on -8 magnitude Iridium Satellite Flares I have seen. Location: New Hampshire Comments: Joe Hanley: I was driving due south on Route 93 in southern New Hampshire at 9:30 p.m. EST when my wife Mary and I saw what appeared to be a low and very bright shooting star flying across the sky from the east towards the west. We were amazed at the how low, bright and extended it was when it then burst into colorful pieces, leaving a very quick and multi-colored trail. Location: Roslyn, New York Comments: Bernadette of Glen Cove, New York: Tonight at 9:30 pm EST my husband and I were driving east on the expressway in the town of Roslyn, NY. We couldn't help but see the brightest meteor! I am sure it lasted more than 7 seconds. It was very bright with a long tail. I feel I saw an orange color as well. This certainly makes up for all those nights I have stared into the sky hoping to see something an felt disappointed. Location: Cummington, Massachusetts Comments: Steve Sauter: I was driving East on Rte. 9 in Cummington, Ma. on 12/29. My daughter and her fiance were in the south passenger seats when both yelled, fireworks, whoa! Sparks, a tail! They then described a huge kelly green ball of sparks, falling straight to the ground with a tail of green sparks stretching up and to the left (east). Extremely bright, large. This should mean a landing around Windsor, Ma. Location: Mansfield, Massachusetts Comments: Andy Stearns: Wow! At approximately 9:30PM local time I witnessed a very bright fireball against a clear starlit sky. It initially appeared between 45° and 60° above the southern horizon and approximately 90° above the eastern horizon. It was traveling west. Unfortunately, my house obstructed my view at about 45° on the western horizon. The core of the fireball was distinctly green with a very bright white trail. There may have been some blue fringes. Although the view became obstructed by my house, there was about 2 seconds where the western sky was illuminated by the meteor's travel west. This illumination was terminated by a green flash that lit up the entire western quadrant of the sky. My impression was that the fireball exploded, but unfortunately, I could not witness any fragmenting or the actual explosion due to my obstruction. From first observation until the explosion was about 4 seconds (no more than 5). I've witnessed thousands of meteors over my 43 year lifetime including 1 meteor burst several years ago (which was brilliant white). This ranks #1 to me due to the intensity of the light, the brilliant green color, and the green flash it produced over the western horizon. Location: Perry Hall, Maryland Comments: Dan Dutrow: While driving home tonight around 9:30 PM, I saw something I've never seen before. While headed North in Perry Hall, Maryland on I-95, I witnessed a green flash of light rapidly falling away from me to the east. It was either a rocket hurling towards Best Buy or a meteor flying North over Perry Hall and into the horizon, hopefully the latter. Location: Bangor, Maine. Comments: Edward W. Gould: Last night, I was in my backyard with one of our dogs, when I saw a bright flash out of the corner of my eye. It lasted long enough for me to turn and catch a glimpse of it as it shot low across the southern sky traveling from east to west. It was a bright green ball with a long tail. What struck me was both how bright it was and how low in the sky it was, just visible above the tree and house lines. I thanked my dog for having to go out to give me the opportunity to see it! Location: Maine Comments: Nicole Ricci: I live in a very small town in Southern Maine and went out around 9:30pm to let my dog out and saw a orange ball fall from the sky. Location:
Re: [meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository
Hi Michael, Edward, Steve, etc. All of those free photo sites are nice, but there are too many of them and therefore everyone's photos are scattered all over the web. Even if everyone adds a URL link to their photos in an e-mail and posts it to this list, it's a major pain in the butt. That's what many of us don't want. For example, if someone joins our list tomorrow and is looking for photos of Sikhote Alin, they have no way to go back and search through all of the list e-mails for Sikhote Alin photos links that were uploaded to Flickr or Webshots 3 or 6 or 9 months ago... unless there is a search function in our list's archives (I couldn't find one). Even if there were a search function, it would still be a pain to go look at some on Flickr, then go to Webshots, then go to Picassa, etc. Too much jumping around. So, they should all be in a centralized location. Jason, Rob and Norbert all mentioned the Encyclopedia of Meteorites website. From what I've seen on it in just the few minutes that I've looked at it, that DOES seem to be a good place to post meteorite (or meteorite-related) photos, so maybe it has most/all of the features I was inquiring about. I had heard about the Encyclopedia of Meteorites a year ago, but personal photo collections are not what I would expect in an encyclopedia, so I didn't even think to look there. Thanks all! Bob -Original Message- From: Michael L Blood [mailto:mlbl...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 12:23 PM To: Bob Loeffler; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Need a meteorite picture repository (was Alternative Meteorite Group Track Records) Bob, I don't see the problem... There are many free photo sites - Upload your photo, get the URL, put the click-to URL into your Post to the list and there you are. Hundreds do it. The worst Case scenario is you have to copy/paste the URL to your browser. I like Webshots : http://www.webshots.com/ because of the Ease of use and the option to pay a little and expand your capacity, but there are dozens out there - just choose one (I will admit there is at least one list member that cannot seem To get this basic concept, talks about a photo we certainly should Be sure to see - and leaves the URL out of his posts Concluding with ...Enjoy! - enjoy WHAT?) Other than that, how easy can it get, Bob? These sites are Out there - pick one, use it, post to the list. Best wishes, Michael on 12/26/08 8:14 AM, Bob Loeffler at b...@peaktopeak.com wrote: Hi all, I'm not posting this to MikeG's chat group discussion because my idea is not the focus of that discussion. I see only one thing missing from this Meteorite list: A picture repository for list members who don't have websites. We can have all of the meteorite-related discussions that we so desire on this list, but if a member wants to show us pictures of his meteorites, he/she has to use a service like Flickr if he/she doesn't have his/her own website. Flickr and some of the others are nice for general use, but then we have pictures strewn about all over the web and it's impossible to search for them. Not easy for new members (or old members) to view them. What I would like to see is a meteor/meteorite picture storage site that is easy to navigate and easy for people to post their pictures to. It would need to be moderated (e.g. someone posts a picture and caption, then the moderator would need to OK it before it is viewable by everyone) and you would need to be a member of the website (free, of course, but donations would be good) to be able to post (so it would cut down on spammer posts). The moderator would then prevent the few spammer posts to be uploaded. Each member would get his/her own folder (or album) to post pictures into. And maybe they could create more folders within their main folder. It would need to be searchable (e.g. I want to see all Sikhote Alin meteorites). Anyone could become a member, even dealers who already have a website, because they might want to share their personal collection with everyone else without putting it on their dealer website. There would be no advertising on this, but you could add your website URL to the caption of a picture if you want people to be able to easily find your website. There would be NO discussion on the website since we already have a place for that. :-) Just pictures and their captions. It should be able to have it's own website domain name (e.g. www.met-list-meteorites.com). I volunteer to pay the yearly domain name fee if others would share the monthly web hosting fee (I could help with that, too) and the daily work. I am too stretched on other volunteer work, so I can't do much of the daily moderation (which of course could be done every couple of days instead of daily). Is there any website system out there that can do this already? Or is there anyone who could make one? Thanks and Happy
Re: [meteorite-list] Perhaps another fall??
Wow! best around here since Peeksill. Need some more reports to detrermine if anything hit the ground. Hopeful from Plymouth, MA - Original Message - From: Robert Woolard meteoritefin...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 2:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Perhaps another fall?? List, I don't know if any of you found the posting I made the other day about the possible CA fall interesting or not, but if so, here is a report on perhaps yet another ( ??? ) on the other side of the USA. *** NEW ENGLAND FIREBALL: Last night, Dec. 29th at 9:30 p.m. EST, sky watchers in Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, New York and New Jersey witnessed a magnitude -9 fireball that exploded colorfully in mid-flight. No one knows if fragments of the meteoroid reached the ground. Location: North Bay Shore, New York Comments: Dan Linek: At approximately 2130 EST, I was sitting in a car and noticed a quick bright light right in front of my eyes. It took me a couple of seconds to realize I had just seen the brightest meteor of my life. It came out of the eastern sky heading to the north about 20-30 degrees above the horizon near the constellation Cancer. It was a bright blue color with a hint of green and lasted about a half second to a full second. In that short time, it seemed as though there were a few pieces falling right below it but I do not think anything reached the ground. I estimate it was about a -9 magnitude based on -8 magnitude Iridium Satellite Flares I have seen. Location: New Hampshire Comments: Joe Hanley: I was driving due south on Route 93 in southern New Hampshire at 9:30 p.m. EST when my wife Mary and I saw what appeared to be a low and very bright shooting star flying across the sky from the east towards the west. We were amazed at the how low, bright and extended it was when it then burst into colorful pieces, leaving a very quick and multi-colored trail. Location: Roslyn, New York Comments: Bernadette of Glen Cove, New York: Tonight at 9:30 pm EST my husband and I were driving east on the expressway in the town of Roslyn, NY. We couldn't help but see the brightest meteor! I am sure it lasted more than 7 seconds. It was very bright with a long tail. I feel I saw an orange color as well. This certainly makes up for all those nights I have stared into the sky hoping to see something an felt disappointed. Location: Cummington, Massachusetts Comments: Steve Sauter: I was driving East on Rte. 9 in Cummington, Ma. on 12/29. My daughter and her fiance were in the south passenger seats when both yelled, fireworks, whoa! Sparks, a tail! They then described a huge kelly green ball of sparks, falling straight to the ground with a tail of green sparks stretching up and to the left (east). Extremely bright, large. This should mean a landing around Windsor, Ma. Location: Mansfield, Massachusetts Comments: Andy Stearns: Wow! At approximately 9:30PM local time I witnessed a very bright fireball against a clear starlit sky. It initially appeared between 45° and 60° above the southern horizon and approximately 90° above the eastern horizon. It was traveling west. Unfortunately, my house obstructed my view at about 45° on the western horizon. The core of the fireball was distinctly green with a very bright white trail. There may have been some blue fringes. Although the view became obstructed by my house, there was about 2 seconds where the western sky was illuminated by the meteor's travel west. This illumination was terminated by a green flash that lit up the entire western quadrant of the sky. My impression was that the fireball exploded, but unfortunately, I could not witness any fragmenting or the actual explosion due to my obstruction. From first observation until the explosion was about 4 seconds (no more than 5). I've witnessed thousands of meteors over my 43 year lifetime including 1 meteor burst several years ago (which was brilliant white). This ranks #1 to me due to the intensity of the light, the brilliant green color, and the green flash it produced over the western horizon. Location: Perry Hall, Maryland Comments: Dan Dutrow: While driving home tonight around 9:30 PM, I saw something I've never seen before. While headed North in Perry Hall, Maryland on I-95, I witnessed a green flash of light rapidly falling away from me to the east. It was either a rocket hurling towards Best Buy or a meteor flying North over Perry Hall and into the horizon, hopefully the latter. Location: Bangor, Maine. Comments: Edward W. Gould: Last night, I was in my backyard with one of our dogs, when I saw a bright flash out of the corner of my eye. It lasted long enough for me to turn and catch a glimpse of it as it shot low across the southern sky traveling from east to west. It was a bright green ball with a long tail. What struck me was both how
[meteorite-list] AD: New Years Sale - 2 Days Left
Hi All, The New Years sale is ending at midnight Jan 1. If you want a deal then you better grab it while you can. Look for more meteorites tonight and tomorrow and until Jan 1 at Midnight. I'm dropping my price on the Brenham pallasite slices to move them fast. If you're interested they'll be dropping from $2.50/g to only $2/g After the New Years Sale is over in 2 days, the price goes back to my normal $3.50/g Brenham Pallasite: Only $2/g I will not be dropping them this low again! 64.3g Brenham Pallasite: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/stony-iron-meteorites/643g-brenham-pallasite-polished-slice/ 45.9g Brenham Pallasite: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/stony-iron-meteorites/459g-brenham-pallasite-polished-slice/ MAIN SALES PAGE: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/ More meteorites to be added tonight and tomorrow... Look for them. Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERY Rare Book
In excellent condition , NON - Library book and starting at one penny : Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites Collected From December 1969 to December 1994 with special reference to those represented in the collections of the National Institute of Polar Research, Tokyo 1995 Author : Keizo Yanai Link : http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmaccers531 It has: 230 pages 36 color photos one map of Antarctica showing locations where meteorites where collected a table giving locality names, abbreviations, latitudes longitudes for areas where the meteorites were collected a table describing the meteorite naming 22 pages of figures showing meteorite compositions in terms of pyroxene quadrilaterals, anorthite content of feldspar, and fayalite content of olivine 33 pages giving chemical analyses of about 600 meteorites a table describing meteorite classification with two pages of notes describing the table about 120 pages of tabular material listing all meteorites, weight, class, %Fa in olivine, %Fs in pyroxene, etc. With the ever increasing population of meteorite collectors making books like this more and more difficult to obtain, It took me 4 years to get this book and I consider myself lucky to get one. Also check out the colorful Type 3 NWA Chondrite up for auction . Thanks for looking ! Bob Evans __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERY Rare Book
A respected and important member of the meteorite community checked out the provenance of the last offerings on eBay by Bob Evans and they turned out to be shady to say the least. It looks like Bob Evans was selling stones with fake Monnig provenance according to his own source. Wouldn't this constitute fraud on a felony level? Can't something be done to stop this guy? When he comes back out of hiding after his latest rip off scams I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - some smaller slices of NWA 4734 LUNAR available!
Hello All, on request we have a few more smaller slices of the stunning LUNAR NWA 4734 available! The discount price of $ 950.00 per gram is guaranteed until January 5, 2009. Five smaller slices available: 25 mg, 75 mg, 82 mg, 110 mg, 128 mg Pictures on request! More slices available here: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id44.html Thank you, Peter Peter Marmet Bern, Switzerland IMCA #2747 p.mar...@mysunrise.ch http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The hunt for green crystals in Udei Station
Hello Mike ,peter and list; I have a 200g chunk of udei station that is eat up with green ( diopside possibly ) inclusions.There is also some on the outside,one looks like an actual faceted crystal,to me anyway. I have also found green inclusions in campo del cielo silicated iron slices.I love the green and yellows that show up in some of these specimens. Thanks for posting such an interesting observation and interesting subject. Best Regards;Herman Archer IMCA 2770 **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The hunt for green crystals in Udei Station
Hi Herman and List, I have a 200g chunk of Udei Station...with green (diopside possibly) inclusions. Wow, 200 grams!!! Well, call it diopside, call it augite, it is a calcic clinopyroxene, and sooo beautiful! Diopside = CaMgSi2O6 Augite = (Ca,Mg,Fe2+, Fe3+,Al)2(Si,Al)2O6 Best, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] fraud and ebay
Concerning fraud and ebay... I contacted ebay by phone and email for about 2 weeks concerning Mitch Minors fake lunar material. I provided them with several documents that clearly showed his material was not authentic. I also informed them of the legal liability they assumed if they continued to allow him to list the it after they had been provided with proof of my claims of the fraudulent listings. Mitch Minor no longer is selling the fake lunar material, his auctions were removed. I would suggest for you to call ebay and handle it directly with them. Here is a phone number that will allow you to speak with a real person: 1-800-701-3229 - Ebay Remember, you will need to provide reasonable amount of proof to have them take action. As far as flaming anyone, I feel that that will only reflect badly on the people that resort to that type of activity and also the members of this list in general. I do think if the proof of guilt is substantial enough, the offender should be removed from this list - by allowing him to remain on this list will only condone his actions. Greg www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com --- On Tue, 12/30/08, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERY Rare Book To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 5:52 PM A respected and important member of the meteorite community checked out the provenance of the last offerings on eBay by Bob Evans and they turned out to be shady to say the least. It looks like Bob Evans was selling stones with fake Monnig provenance according to his own source. Wouldn't this constitute fraud on a felony level? Can't something be done to stop this guy? When he comes back out of hiding after his latest rip off scams I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERY Rare Book
I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. Hello Phil, My request to you is a takeout of this order to the list owner, appropriate court, etc. The latter suggestion of spamming 950 list members into the funny farm over and over, because of presumed, judged and execution style vigilantism is just not my cup of tea in these tedious cases, nor systematically feeding avoidable potty-mouthed posts with the best mob morals, or sour grapes or pusses and posses. If an absence of community respect is trumped by a continuing and vicious food fight that the majority relishes, I would be like have my happy meal that the list kindly provides gratis with a standard keyword (I beg your kind sides as a personal favor) in this sort of late bombardment of presumed rogues, such as including the keyword BEWARE in the title of the post. Then at least a few of us who are in a pickle trying to Ketchup with all the positive attributes of this delicious list can filter out these onionskins and stellar flare-ups. As a personal favor! Sorry but the subject has become like an old worn out song that keeps coming back to haunt, and every time I see Bob's name I get this stupid vision of Bob´s Big Boy statue blasting off into space from the top of a hamburger restaurant (I don't remember what B movie that was in). http://images.quickblogcast.com/108258-101114/BigBoyInSky.jpg 0A For the record, the only altercation or business I ever had with Bob was his calling some of my hopeful finds I posted lake rocks like the ones behind his house. Being a sensitive meteorite daddy, and having my babies so insulted destructively, I found peace by having Captain Blood remove me from Meteorite friends so I would not share such company while other meteoroids were hitting the fan. Only God knows the true extent, but this is not a unique problem to one person. It's a tough planet... Best wishes for an authentic, peaceful, rewarding and healthful New Year, druling with stardust on top Doug A respected and important member of the meteorite community checked out the provenance of the last offerings on eBay by Bob Evans and they turned out to be shady to say the least. It looks like Bob Evans was selling stones with fake Monnig provenance according to his own source. Wouldn't this constitute fraud on a felony level? Can't something be done to stop this guy? When he comes back out of hiding after his latest rip off scams I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. -Original Message- From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 4:52 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERY Rare Book A respected and important20member of the meteorite community checked out the provenance of the last offerings on eBay by Bob Evans and they turned out to be shady to say the least. It looks like Bob Evans was selling stones with fake Monnig provenance according to his own source. Wouldn't this constitute fraud on a felony level? Can't something be done to stop this guy? When he comes back out of hiding after his latest rip off scams I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bob Evans
I couldn't agree more with Phil. I have no idea why he is allowed to continue his communications on this list. We should not continue to look away and let some unsuspecting collector be taken advantage of. It can eventually affect the value of all of our collections. What needs to be done to get Art to remove him from the list. This was brought up in the past but no action was taken. I was hoping he would just pick a different hobby. Not so lucky... Al, Phil,McCartney,Anne,Martin H,Art...Everyone What is the next step? Jay Piatek MD - Original Message - From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERYRare Book A respected and important member of the meteorite community checked out the provenance of the last offerings on eBay by Bob Evans and they turned out to be shady to say the least. It looks like Bob Evans was selling stones with fake Monnig provenance according to his own source. Wouldn't this constitute fraud on a felony level? Can't something be done to stop this guy? When he comes back out of hiding after his latest rip off scams I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans
Hello Jay, Joshua, and List members, I would be happy to help, and I certainly wish I had seen those Ebay auctions with a fake Monnig Collection provenance. I just looked on Ebay but did not see them. And I do not check Ebay auctions very often. Maybe one of you can email me if you spot another one, I certainly will check with Art Ehlmann as quickly as possible. I do know that Laurence Garvie is also member of this list, maybe he can alert us if ASU does any trade with Mr Evans. And I'll be glad to talk to our esteemed List-Owner in Tucson. Maybe it will take the collaboration of a lot of members to get this problem resolved. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ In a message dated 12/30/2008 6:05:24 PM Mountain Standard Time, wpia...@indy.rr.com writes: I couldn't agree more with Phil. I have no idea why he is allowed to continue his communications on this list. We should not continue to look away and let some unsuspecting collector be taken advantage of. It can eventually affect the value of all of our collections. What needs to be done to get Art to remove him from the list. This was brought up in the past but no action was taken. I was hoping he would just pick a different hobby. Not so lucky... Al, Phil,McCartney,Anne,Martin H,Art...Everyone What is the next step? Jay Piatek MD - Original Message - From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERYRare Book A respected and important member of the meteorite community checked out the provenance of the last offerings on eBay by Bob Evans and they turned out to be shady to say the least. It looks like Bob Evans was selling stones with fake Monnig provenance according to his own source. Wouldn't this constitute fraud on a felony level? Can't something be done to stop this guy? When he comes back out of hiding after his latest rip off scams I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans
Hi Jay, Phil and other concerned list members. Since this individual keeps showing up on this list and peddling his misrepresented meteorites here (he is substituting certain common falls for rarer types), I'd suggest that people email Art and tell him of your concern. If you have been ripped off by this individual or know of any illegitimate business practices you can email Art here: Art blurthel...@gmail.com and tell him of your difficulties. I doubt that Art wants someone like this on the list. I plan on emailing him to make a request to have Bob Evans removed and I hope that others will do the same, whether you are a victim or not. Phil did he send his package by mail?? Do you still have the box it was shipped in. If so you can go to the post office and file a mail fraud complaint against him which could land him in jail. Since I live close to you, I'd be glad to help you out with this. We can also bring other documentation to further enforce our side. I'd urge others to do the same. If they see several people filing against the same individual then it will weigh heavily on him. I agree with Mexico Doug that flaming won't make the group look good to perspective aficionados. All my best! --AL Mitterling - Original Message - From: Wendy Piatek wpia...@indy.rr.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 8:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Bob Evans I couldn't agree more with Phil. I have no idea why he is allowed to continue his communications on this list. We should not continue to look away and let some unsuspecting collector be taken advantage of. It can eventually affect the value of all of our collections. What needs to be done to get Art to remove him from the list. This was brought up in the past but no action was taken. I was hoping he would just pick a different hobby. Not so lucky... Al, Phil,McCartney,Anne,Martin H,Art...Everyone What is the next step? Jay Piatek MD - Original Message - From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD- Catalog of the Antarctic Meteorites VERYRare Book A respected and important member of the meteorite community checked out the provenance of the last offerings on eBay by Bob Evans and they turned out to be shady to say the least. It looks like Bob Evans was selling stones with fake Monnig provenance according to his own source. Wouldn't this constitute fraud on a felony level? Can't something be done to stop this guy? When he comes back out of hiding after his latest rip off scams I say flame him until he crawls back into the scum from whence he came. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WTB: a Single Clear Olivine Crystal
I would like to buy a large single olivine crystal to have it made into a charm for my wife's bracelet. I don't know the translation into carat size but I would want the finished measurements to be close to 5mm x 5mm. I would like a green crystal since she already has a citrine charm, which is her birthstone. I have seen them on ebay but don't know if I can trust the sellers, how do you know it's from a meteorite and not created in a lab Any help would be appreciated. Thanks __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteor or Meteorite? CA Fireball!
Hi all, I'm following this Merced, CA fireball story closely. If anyone has any info, links, photos, videos, or reports please let me know on-list or off-list. The easiest way to report it is to go to my site where I have a created a map of the sighting area based on eyewitness accounts from SpaceWeather.com. Map: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/blog/meteorite-news/california-fireball-new-meteorite-fall/ Add a comment, click the Report Sighting Link or send me an email if you here anything about this. Responses are greatly appreciated! Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 4024
G'Day Everyone, I just wanted to let all the people who have replied off list to me in regards to the NWA 4024, you all really supplied me with alot of information, more than I expected. Thank you all so much. Have a very Happy and Safe New Year!! Cheers John - Original Message - From: John.L.Cabassi j...@cabassi.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 4024 G'Day Everyone, I'd appreciate some help on this one. I try to take one met each weekend and gather as much information and notes on it. This weekend, it was NWA 4024. My problem is conflicting amounts of the Total Known Weight. The piece I received provided the basic information, but the total known weight was left out. The Met Bull states 38.1 grams, but I've also noticed on some of Mike's cards, it's placed at 745 grams. Can anybody help? I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Cheers, John __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD SALE Meteorite Auctions ending 12/31 on ebay and over the next few days
Hello List Members, I hope everyone is having a Great week! I have several ebay auctions ending 12/31 and over the next few days. Please take a look. FAUCETT METEORITE CHONDRITE 21.5gm CHONDRULES COA IMCA http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270322572894ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=017 NORTHBRANCH METEORITE CHONDRITE 57.0 gm COA IMCA NICE http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270322578812ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=017 ESTHERVILLE METEORITE MESOSIDERITE 9.50gm COA IMCA http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270322587559ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=017 GRETNA METEORITE 46.50 GMS L5 CHONDRITE 1912 HARD TO FIND http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280297679919ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=018 ATOKA METEORITE 1.518 gm L6 RARE 1945 COA IMCA CRUST http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280297717500ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=018 SMYER METEORITE RARE 28.35 gm H-6 COA IMCA TEXAS NICE http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270322843199ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=017 ALLENDE METEORITE CV3 CARBONACE 8.00gm BLACK CRUST IMCA http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=270323345922ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=017 AGOULT METEORITE .61g IMCA ACHONDRITE EUCRITE RARE RARE http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=280297736494ssPageName=STRK:MESE:ITih=018 Thanks for looking. Brian Cox searchingforfun on ebay IMCA # 6387 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
