[meteorite-list] West Texas Meteorite Hunt
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/WTM.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tamdakht hunting trip
Hello, Here is the link to our report on our Tamdakht hunting trip: http://www.meteoritica.com/tamdakht%20hunting%20trip.html Thanks for looking, Philippe www.meteoritica.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
CONFLICTING AGENDAS Last night I received a phone call from an understandably distressed Mike Farmer. Mike was bugged by the media coverage of the announced sale of WEST meteorites at Heritage Auction Galleries---which included a hoped-for figure of what a larger specimen could bring. Mike indicated that landowners had become squirrelly in recent days and the advent of this announcement would result in his inability to gain access to private property for continued hunting. Mike wondered aloud why Heritage felt they had to make this announcement months prior to a sale in which these consignments would appear. Mike was not the only one with such concerns. For the record, I was also exasperated by the decision to announce this offering at this time and I strenuously objected to the same. It was too early and could undermine a bigger story in closer proximity to the sale where it would certainly have greater impact. It appeared the publicist's primary objective was not what was best for the sale of the meteorites but rather how to maximize a corporate branding opportunity. My objections did not fall entirely on deaf ears. I convinced David Herskowitz of Heritage to hold-off until next week when I could at least provide a picture of the larger specimen. Late yesterday afternoon David reported that his publicist said the story could not be contained and was now on the AP wire. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions ending Tomorrow
Dear All, Our ebay auctions ending on Saturday can be seen at: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZmeteoriteshow They include: 1- EL AROUSS L-IMB (unclas.) - 198.9g SLICE: FULL SLICE weighing 198.9g, dimensions 144x123x5mm, with beautiful IMB, nice metal flakes veins and vesiculated cavities. SUCH A HUGE SLICE SIZE IS VERY RARE... STILL AT A VERY LOW PRICE!!! http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=330307291666 2- HaH244 L5-6 - 14.3g partslice: FRESH GORGEAOUS Partslice weighing 14.3g, dimensions 57x33x3mm, with some nice chondrules metal flakes in a fair grey matrix and fusion crust around ~60% of the edges. Only two bids so far and $1.25... http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=330307291765 3- OUED EL HADJAR - 3.9g frag - WITNESSED FALL!: Fragment weighing 3.9g, dimensions ~17x16x11mm, partially fusion crusted. VERY RARE WITNESSED FALL! STILL AT $1.00 STARTING PRICE! http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=330307291878 4- SAH 02500 L3 - 571g Crusted Fragment: ~ 40% Fusion Crusted Fragment weighing 571g, dimensions: 109x74x40mm.One nice crusted side. Huge clasts inclusions (dark fair grey inclusions) can be seen on other sides. STILL AT A VERY LOW PRICE... http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=330307291967 5- AHARAN OC #3203 - 18.0g Endcut: Endcut weighing 18.0g - dimensions: 48x33x13mm. The polished cut surface shows a highly metamorphized structure, no metal flakes are visible. This is probably an LL chondrite, which is confirmed by the low magnetic susceptibility of 3,75. Only two bids so far and $1.25... http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=330307292040 6- SAHARAN OC #3397 - 14.4g partslice: Partslice weighing 14.4g - 45x34x5mm. The cut section shows a highly metamorphized structure, no metal falkes are visible. Most probably a LL chondrite according to alteration magnetic susceptiblility of 4,28. STILL AT $1.00 STARTING PRICE! http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemssPageName=STRK:MESELX:ITitem=330307292192 Thank you very much for watching and best wishes to ALL BIDDERS!!! Kind regards, Frederic Beroud http://www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thursday West, Texas hunt
Michael and other: Congratulations on all your finds - this is great stuff. I’m going to be traveling to Texas during the week of March 9th on business and I may be able to drive to West and spend the 13th – 15th there to try some hunting myself. Are there any hunting groups that will still be there during that week? If so, can you let me know. Contact me off list. Much Thanks, Greg Stanley --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Thursday West, Texas hunt To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:44 PM Well, another day has passed and for the second time, I got skunked. However, the rest of my friends did quite well. Robert Ward found one of the largest stones of the West fall yet. You likely saw todays pic of the day by Michael Johnson. Thanks Michael, for letting me send Iphone photos from the dirt to computers around the world in seconds. More hunters are showing up, and I am trying to get everyone who comes a stone. Call or meet me and I will show where all the stones are being found. It seems that there are others here who do not want to let anyone hunt with them, and that is not my style. We were nice enough to even announce that the meteorite had been discovered as Doug and Dima had no plans to do so per the landowner's wishes. We felt that more boots on the ground would lead to many stones recovered, we were correct. No problems with our team, we will hook you up. In fact, I will likely post a google earth map of all 60 or 70 stones I have mapped. I plan to coordinate with over 10 hunters and have already done so, but the map is a couple days behind as we are all very tired each night. Of course, we will not be able to include the other team's information as they are bound by secrecy laws and contracts not to speak about their finds. anyone needing information on the ground can get with me. Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORDy
Yes today we were evicted From a prime meteorite hunting property due to that press release. These things kill the guys in the field. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone Michael On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: CONFLICTING AGENDAS Last night I received a phone call from an understandably distressed Mike Farmer. Mike was bugged by the media coverage of the announced sale of WEST meteorites at Heritage Auction Galleries---which included a hoped-for figure of what a larger specimen could bring. Mike indicated that landowners had become squirrelly in recent days and the advent of this announcement would result in his inability to gain access to private property for continued hunting. Mike wondered aloud why Heritage felt they had to make this announcement months prior to a sale in which these consignments would appear. Mike was not the only one with such concerns. For the record, I was also exasperated by the decision to announce this offering at this time and I strenuously objected to the same. It was too early and could undermine a bigger story in closer proximity to the sale where it would certainly have greater impact. It appeared the publicist's primary objective was not what was best for the sale of the meteorites but rather how to maximize a corporate branding opportunity. My objections did not fall entirely on deaf ears. I convinced David Herskowitz of Heritage to hold-off until next week when I could at least provide a picture of the larger specimen. Late yesterday afternoon David reported that his publicist said the story could not be contained and was now on the AP wire. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] tichka fall info/tamedaght,
hello list and philipe thanks for the info philipe and it's a great job you have done,, the place you show where it has been found the 3800 gr complete stone is this one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/3267900586/ and as you are mentioning there is an 87 kilos +40 kilos +15+ all the individuals + 8kilos complete all what other has an all what has been in tucson and all what the tichka tributes has, and we all modesty there is more than 200 kilos available. back to the point where i sad there is a month that is a very large fall , so from tamedaght to the place where the 3800 gr was found taifesst is far from the rest, so back to what i have sad there a month it's a big fall and not what some dealer was saying here that it was a small fall and more to come, so i m right now and with proof.i sad that time will tell and now you see yourself. back to the Truth now. where is the craters and where is the rest of the movie, let this stay clean aziz habibihabibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:03 PM First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral..com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM CONFLICTING AGENDAS Last night I received a phone call from an understandably distressed Mike Farmer. Mike was bugged by the media coverage of the announced sale of WEST meteorites at Heritage Auction Galleries---which included a hoped-for figure of what a larger specimen could bring. Mike indicated that landowners had become squirrelly in recent days and the advent of this announcement would result in his inability to gain access to private property for continued hunting. Mike wondered aloud why Heritage felt they had to make this announcement months prior to a sale in which these consignments would appear. Mike was not the only one with such concerns. For the record, I was also exasperated by the decision to announce this offering at this time and I strenuously objected to the same. It was too early and
[meteorite-list] new tx skyrox
are there any of these for sale, yet? __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
Depends on how bad a collector wants a sample. Most meteorites are worth what the buyer is willing to pay for. Michael Johnson Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:04:32 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:03 PM First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral..com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM CONFLICTING AGENDAS Last night I received a phone call from an understandably distressed Mike Farmer. Mike was bugged by the media coverage of the announced sale of WEST meteorites at Heritage Auction Galleries---which included a hoped-for figure of what a larger specimen could bring. Mike indicated that landowners had become squirrelly in recent days and the advent of this announcement would result in his inability to gain access to private property
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
$100 gram is too high for this fall. However a hunter has the right to Demand whatever price they want and some who hunted here would lose Money even At $100 per gram. You have the right not to buy. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone Michael On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:03 PM First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral..com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM CONFLICTING AGENDAS Last night I received a phone call from an understandably distressed Mike Farmer. Mike was bugged by the media coverage of the announced sale of WEST meteorites at Heritage Auction Galleries---which included a hoped-for figure of what a larger specimen could bring. Mike indicated that landowners had become squirrelly in recent days and the advent of this announcement would result in his inability to gain access to private property for continued hunting. Mike wondered
[meteorite-list] West Texas Meteoite Hunt
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/WTM.html Michael Johnson http://www.spacerocksinc.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
If I were one of you hunters down there in West, TX (..I wish), I would take my total travel costs, lost wages, ect.. not even including hours spent head down, scanning the ground... and divide that by the total weight of the loot brought back home. Personally, I wouldn't feel it would be worth it to sell for anything less than the $$$ per gram calculated using that particular equation. Purchasing additional stones directly from a landowner throws in yet another variable, but you get my general idea. For me, half the fun (or more) would be in finding them.. so I cannot see spending ~$100 per gram on something that was just sent to me through the mail (not nearly as enjoyable). However, I do believe they should be (..and are) worth at least the amount of time and expense it took to locate them by the finder. I wasn't there to participate, so I really don't feel like anyone should have to offer anything to me, nor do I feel the urge to spend a large chunk of cash on something that has all of the fun already taken out of it. Not to say that I wouldn't bite at a reasonable offering, but I would totally understand if everyone decided to keep what they found. These stones will have more meaning to those who found them. All the best, Ryan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
$100/g may seem pricey but then we are collectors of extraordinary (indeed, extraterrestrial) material. If commercial value is to be placed on such items, I think the rarity of such material would qualify it as more valuable than they actually sell for. Out of interest, just how much do dealers think this material would be worth if it weren't for the glut of material from the Sahara in recent years? I reckon it'd be far more. I forget where the quote comes from but if there was only one rabbit in the world, you can bet rabbit sh*t would be more valuable than diamonds. I love my meteorites and feel fortunate to have been able to afford what I have at all. Whether they do it for fame, glory, recognition, fun or profit, they provide the market with unique material in sizes and prices that are affordable whatever your budget. AND they provide science with material that they wouldn't have the money to collect themselves with the limited resources they get from the public purse. I don't begrudge the guys who go out there and collect the stuff for trying to recoup some of their losses and let's be honest, many do make losses and there is no guarantee they'll find enough material to cover their expenses. If you really, REALLY must have some right now, you're going to have to pay the price. There are lots of other people who just can't wait, either. As Mike put it, you do have the right not to buy. Rob McC --- On Fri, 2/27/09, RJP yelloweng...@earthlink.net wrote: From: RJP yelloweng...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 8:34 PM If I were one of you hunters down there in West, TX (..I wish), I would take my total travel costs, lost wages, ect.. not even including hours spent head down, scanning the ground... and divide that by the total weight of the loot brought back home. Personally, I wouldn't feel it would be worth it to sell for anything less than the $$$ per gram calculated using that particular equation. Purchasing additional stones directly from a landowner throws in yet another variable, but you get my general idea. For me, half the fun (or more) would be in finding them.. so I cannot see spending ~$100 per gram on something that was just sent to me through the mail (not nearly as enjoyable). However, I do believe they should be (..and are) worth at least the amount of time and expense it took to locate them by the finder. I wasn't there to participate, so I really don't feel like anyone should have to offer anything to me, nor do I feel the urge to spend a large chunk of cash on something that has all of the fun already taken out of it. Not to say that I wouldn't bite at a reasonable offering, but I would totally understand if everyone decided to keep what they found. These stones will have more meaning to those who found them. All the best, Ryan __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] documentation ideas/discussion
I am currently working on a nice format to use for COAs on higher priced material... This is what I have come up with and want to know your thoughts/ideas/suggestions. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/COAsample.jpg I think this offers a very nice look and gives the basic information. Also included will be a document of provenance and more detailed information sheet, all which will include a watermark and nifty hologram sticker that identify me (www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com is what the watermark and holograms will say) The total cost of doing this is very minimal and in my opinion would help to assure the purchaser of authenticity and make the meteorite sample stand out above others selling similar material. I am thinking that by offering a nice documentation package, it will help increase sales (this is more focused on in person sales and not online) Not many dealers offer up detailed information, most only provide the standard sized business card with little information on the actual meteorite. I am constantly looking at ways to improve the presentation of meteorites as that is an area that I see is lacking in todays market. I would like to know how many here that sell do something like this? (I know Bob C. does nice COAs similar to what I did, I actually used one of his as a starting point) What do you think of what I have come up with? Would this make you more likely to buy? (not just from me, but anyone offering up nice documentation package) Would you consider an additional $5 (about the cost) to get this information (that includes a picture of the sample purchased) worth the additional amount? I look forward to everyones thoughts and ideas. Greg C. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
Hi Greg, You may have something here. Please go to Texas and buy all you can at $5/g and I promise to buy it from you at DOUBLE that the moment You return! Please let me know when you have some! Thanks, Michael (PS: Do not be discouraged if you Spend a few thousand dollars and take a couple weeks off Work and walk for 10 to 12 hrs a day and find only one or Tow specimens of 2 or 3 grams a piece (though some days You may get NONE) . Just keep your eye on the prize! $10/g when you get back! Best wishes, Michael From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:04:32 -0800 (PST) To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:03 PM First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral..com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM
Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD
Hi Greg, You may have something here. Please go to Texas and buy all you can at $5/g and I promise to buy it from you at DOUBLE that the moment You return! Please let me know when you have some! Thanks, Michael (PS: Do not be discouraged if you Spend a few thousand dollars and take a couple weeks off Work and walk for 10 to 12 hrs a day and find only one or Tow specimens of 2 or 3 grams a piece (though some days You may get NONE) . Just keep your eye on the prize! $10/g when you get back! Best wishes, Michael From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:04:32 -0800 (PST) To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 1:03 PM First let em say that I would really like to get a sample of this fall. now to the topic at hand... I see an agenda from the hunters to set a higher value then the meteorite is worth, and I think that may also be leading to some troubles. I am reminded of Carancas... it sold at $100 per gram and now can be purchased for $20 per gram... I also saw reports of Tishka being small with not alot available, now it seems there is a very substatial amount available. I think that the way some hunters/dealers are handling this has some to do with the current issues. I have read reports of secret agreements and such things... that will only help to make people sketchy about the issue. This seems to be a very big fall of a normal chondrite, far from being worth $100 per gram. Is part of the issue that a high price dealers are trying to set conflicts with what hunters told the land owners the material is worth? perhaps they seen or hear $5 per gram then see it being offered and claims of buying it at $90-$100 per gram... just recently someone posted they paid $90 per gram, only later for someone to say they paid considerably less then that. The only prices I have been offered is $100 per gram, which again I feel is way over priced and seems to be intended to prey on collectors who want a fresh sample of this fall. I think this and some of the comments tossed around about the locals may be getting back to them and causing hard feelings perhaps, or feelings of being taken advantage of. People dont like to be ripped off, and honestly, it seems thats what looks to be happening. Secrets and closed door deals never end up good. Just my thoughts from the outside looking in. I hope nobody takes this personal, this is simply my thoughts and how it looks to me. Greg C. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com wrote: From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FOR THE RECORD To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral..com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:27 AM
[meteorite-list] Metal Object That Fell Through Roof of Dallas Home Was Part Of A Tree-Mulching Machine
http://www.startribune.com/nation/40426837.html Object that fell through roof of Dallas home was part of a tree-mulching machine, police say Associated Press February 27, 2009 DALLAS - Police say a 6-pound chunk of metal that crashed through the roof of a Dallas home was part of a machine that was grinding up an unwanted tree nearby. Sgt. Gil Cerda says: Mystery solved. So much for the theory it could have been a piece of debris from this month's collision of Russian and U.S. satellites. Cerda says the metal chunk was a grinding tip of a mulching machine being used by a tree disposal service crew. No one was hurt when it went flying Tuesday. Senior Cpl. Janice Crowther said no charges will be filed against the business because it was an accident. The satellite debris theory also came up when a fireball streaked across the Texas sky Feb. 15. That turned out to be a meteorite. It also surfaced last week when a piece of metal crashed through a New Jersey warehouse. That was another errant piece of a mulching machine. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite - January 2009
http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/january2009.html Cheers, Jeff __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock
Hey All, It was a rewarding day outside of West today. We got out of the field to the steak house then back to the hotel room and broke out the rock saw. I cut one of the 97 stones our team has found so far, a 5.3g part stone, and folks, this is a freaky looking rock inside. Portales Valley was a ordinary H6 and this may be an ordinary L6... but it is far from ordinary. It looks like a Howardite inside. Of course, Howardites don't have free Copper in them. Here is a photo: http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/?action=viewcurrent=CIMG1414.jpg I am sorry the photo is not great, but considering the bathroom photo studio has poor lighting, it was as good as I could get in short order. I am sure many other people will be cutting theirs, so I am sure more good photos will follow soon. Steve Arnold #1 **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock
Nicely done for a bathroom studio Steve! ;-) Looks like a very nice breccia! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock Hey All, It was a rewarding day outside of West today. We got out of the field to the steak house then back to the hotel room and broke out the rock saw. I cut one of the 97 stones our team has found so far, a 5.3g part stone, and folks, this is a freaky looking rock inside. Portales Valley was a ordinary H6 and this may be an ordinary L6... but it is far from ordinary. It looks like a Howardite inside. Of course, Howardites don't have free Copper in them. Here is a photo: http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/?action=viewcurrent=CIMG1414.jpg I am sorry the photo is not great, but considering the bathroom photo studio has poor lighting, it was as good as I could get in short order. I am sure many other people will be cutting theirs, so I am sure more good photos will follow soon. Steve Arnold #1 **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock
It looks identical to St. Michel from Finland. L6 breccia. Beautiful meteorite, we are lucky with this one that at least many pristine stones are being found. I would kill to have a multi-kilo piece though. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote: From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock To: meteorh...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:42 PM Nicely done for a bathroom studio Steve! ;-) Looks like a very nice breccia! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock Hey All, It was a rewarding day outside of West today. We got out of the field to the steak house then back to the hotel room and broke out the rock saw. I cut one of the 97 stones our team has found so far, a 5.3g part stone, and folks, this is a freaky looking rock inside. Portales Valley was a ordinary H6 and this may be an ordinary L6... but it is far from ordinary. It looks like a Howardite inside. Of course, Howardites don't have free Copper in them. Here is a photo: http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/?action=viewcurrent=CIMG1414.jpg I am sorry the photo is not great, but considering the bathroom photo studio has poor lighting, it was as good as I could get in short order. I am sure many other people will be cutting theirs, so I am sure more good photos will follow soon. Steve Arnold #1 **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite - February 2009
http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/february2009.html Cheers, Jeff __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock
Beautiful, indeed. I think it looks better than St. Michel. The difference is that even the tiniest slices are loaded. Wait until you see better photos! Steve's been busy on the saw and keeping the hotel guests up. Sorry to those who have been trying to get ahold of me. My phone is toast and we have been working a marathon. I promise to contact you this weekend when I get home. I have the worst sunburn of my life and my legs feel like they were run over by a tractor, yet I am having the time of my life. I found my first fall and many more and have made some new life-long friends. The food is fantastic, the people are friendly, and we are the first people to gaze upon these rocks from space. It is truly magical. I heart Texas. Best, Mike Bandli - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer meteorite...@yahoo.com To: meteorh...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:45:11 PM GMT -08:00 Tijuana / Baja California Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock It looks identical to St. Michel from Finland. L6 breccia. Beautiful meteorite, we are lucky with this one that at least many pristine stones are being found. I would kill to have a multi-kilo piece though. Michael Farmer --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote: From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock To: meteorh...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:42 PM Nicely done for a bathroom studio Steve! ;-) Looks like a very nice breccia! Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] West, freaky rock Hey All, It was a rewarding day outside of West today. We got out of the field to the steak house then back to the hotel room and broke out the rock saw. I cut one of the 97 stones our team has found so far, a 5.3g part stone, and folks, this is a freaky looking rock inside. Portales Valley was a ordinary H6 and this may be an ordinary L6... but it is far from ordinary. It looks like a Howardite inside. Of course, Howardites don't have free Copper in them. Here is a photo: http://s361.photobucket.com/albums/oo52/stevearnoldpmh/?action=viewcurrent=CIMG1414.jpg I am sorry the photo is not great, but considering the bathroom photo studio has poor lighting, it was as good as I could get in short order. I am sure many other people will be cutting theirs, so I am sure more good photos will follow soon. Steve Arnold #1 **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
