Re: [meteorite-list] Habitual Line Crossing....
Hi Erik, Excellent points by good ol' George. Well Taken. In spite of some differences of humor, I consider Anne and others who have expressed both leanings on the heretofore discussion to be friends. In addition, following the advice of One of the wiser founding fathers, I shall not make Further reference to the one some consider unmentionable. Best wishes, Michael From: Erik Fisler erikfw...@msn.com Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:45:35 -0700 To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Habitual Line Crossing It's been a year or two since I have followed the list. Only a few months ago have I returned to following the list again. It's a great source of information to share with my science teacher at my high school, past and present. I also enjoy reading about the latest falls, price updating, and networking. However, it is not enjoyable to read the conquests, arguments, fights, personal attacks, skirmishes. Debating a topic is one of the best parts of being involved in the scientific community. Forgetting some important things can lead to crossing the line from making your point to making yourself look like a jerk! Here are some to keep in mind when posting: Integrity Honor Valor Excellency We all slip. Some more than others. Regardless, we all shouldn't forget the most important things: Forgiveness understanding. For those of us who need more refining (like me) a great guide of manners is the list of manners George Washington wrote when he was only 16: http://www.history.org/Almanack/life/manners/rules2.cfm [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ed, Dean, Anne Proud Tom Call !
The difference between proud Tom and the Three Stooges is that the latter jokes with fictional characters. I'm not that amused by either of them and I understand Anne if she doesn't want to be associated with proud Tom. Göran Axelsson Mark Grossman wrote: Michael, Read my email carefully. I don't know who Proud Tom is - he is before my time, but these, as well as other often personal attacks and offensive remarks do not serve the image of the list, the collectors, the dealers or members at large very well at all. The personal attacks and offensive remarks I am referring to are the many, many remarks I have observed on this list for over a year or so. So the debate about someone named Proud Tom emerging as one of the most important topics on the meteorite discussion list today comes as no surprise to me. Why do you think this list is called the Big Scary List in other parts of the meteoritic world? So you are right Michael. I suggest that the list members follow your lead and take the next few days to really, really discuss if the Three Stooges are Cheech and Chong are offensive.Sounds like something that's very important to you. Discussion of the Three Stooges/Cheech and Chong and their relation to Proud Tom - sounds like another great topic for the world's largest meteorite list. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com; Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ed, Dean, Anne Proud Tom Call ! Dear Dean Ed, Proud Tom is NOT on the meteorite list. He did Not post to the meteorite list (at least not in a very Long time). I offered to send anyone who WANTED a PDF Of his humor to contact me OFF LIST. Indeed, I stated That it may not be everyone's cup of tea - and if it isn't, Then don't get the PDF. It is great that 3 or 4 of you have had the time and energy To post your opinion (which has now given Proud Tom FAR more list time than my little post) but that in no way Validates your position that implies somehow the rest of Us should not enjoy a good laugh at ourselves. (In fact, A good deal of the roasting is of the Hupes (Adam asked For a copy) and me (I laughed out loud in several places). This is like stating I shouldn't laugh at Cheech Chong Because they trivialize and even promote the evils of marijuana! Somehow several dozens of people have written me OFF LIST (which Is fine) touting long live Proud Tom or the like and stating that if people can't laugh at themselves, something is out of line. In any event, I fully support all 4 of you NOT to get The PDF and NOT to read the PDF. However, if I and Many dozens of others do choose to do so, frankly, I don't see how it is any of your business at all. Y'all can watch the 3 stooges all you want and I promise not to say a thing about it - I just won't watch Them myself. Best wishes, Michael PS: Mark Grossman, Tom's remarks WERE circulated off list - in addition if you haven't read Proud Tom, how could you Possibly form an opinion as to whether or not he engages in personal attacks and offensive remarks? While I am Personally offended by the Three Stooges, does that make Them offensive? From: Ed Deckert edeck...@triad.rr.com Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:37:10 -0400 To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net, Anne Black impact...@aol.com, Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anne Black Proud Tom Call ! I think that Anne has a perfectly valid point. Proud Tom really does not have a place on the met list. At the very least, it violates one of the list rules - Be courteous and professional at all times. The Proud Tom Roasting Humor crosses that line. At the same time, it does not make us look good. Here we are worrying about the image of meteorite dealers because of fraudulent auctions of meteorwrongs on ebay - but not worrying about the image we may project here on this list. So, the Roasting Humor of Proud Tom can certainly have its place, but in a better place, off-list. Best Regards, Ed PS - I am a Three Stooges Fan, but I respect your opinon of them. - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Anne Black Proud Tom Call ! Hi Anne, Of course I will remove you from my friends page if That is what you truly wish. You say there is nothing wrong with your sense of humor, Yet you do not hesitate to severely criticize the humor of Others. I do not care one iota for the Three Stooges. However, I Accept that I am in the great minority and do not judge those Who enjoy
[meteorite-list] NWA 4483 Lunar Meteorite
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[meteorite-list] Md,Va,NC 29MAR09 fireball-many news reports
Dear List, There are many news and eyewitness reports about the 29MAR09 fireball being posted on the internet: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ If someone is willing to take the time and create a map or has fireball images please email me. Thank you. Perhaps there is another new meteorite fall? Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dorchester County, MD fireball reported 30MAR09
After reading whats posted on the meteorobs mailing list, it sounds like a meteorite dropper to me. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] So that's what everyone is bent out of shape over?
Re : Proud Tom hullabulloo (not hula hoop) After reading on the list about the fourth horseman of the apocalypse known as Proud Tom, I wanted to see what had everyone's collective undershorts were in a wad. So I emailed Mr. Blood and asked for a copy of Proud Tom's PDF. First, judging for the over-reactions on the list, I expected Photoshopped lewdness, full frontal nudity, sexual situations, war crimes, and Gilbert Gottfried. Instead, what I saw was a file full of sardonic, sarcastic, parody of a bunch of people I don't know from Adam. (not hula hoop) I will be the first to say, in public, - GET OVER IT. Proud Tom is nothing to get excited about. It's not the end of our hobby. And it's certainly no worse than some of the resin-dipped paperweight/suncatcher abominations I have seen for sale by some members of the meteorite community. If people want to get up in arms over something, then stop people from turning meteorites into gaudy trinkets or gold plating Gibeon slices until they look like something that should be hanging around Flavor-Flav's neck. I've been offended by a couple of things in the meteorite world since I started out, but Proud Tom is not one of them. Now, if I was Matteo or Chicago Steve, then I might be a little offended. ;) And what is all of this talk about the 3 Stooges? They were pioneers of slapstick stage comedy. The 3 Stooges enriched my childhood and gave me early valuable lessons about not getting poked in the eye with a finger. Anyone who says bad things about the Stooges, is also saying bad things about me, since I have always considered myself the lost 5th Stooge. (more obscure than the 4th Stooge) If new collectors and new personalities to the meteorite scene see Proud Tom, will it reflect poorly on our hobby/field? No more so than - 1) the atmosphere of paranoia in our hobby 2) the backbiting and two-faced behavior by some in our hobby 3) people cheapening meteorites as a whole by making disrespectful trinkets out of them. Why isn't everyone bent out of shape over those 3 things, which are surely more destructive to this hobby than the 5 year old comedic rants of some unknown parodist? Jeez Louise. MikeG __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] So that's what everyone is bent out of shape over?
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:03:18 -0500, you wrote: comedy. The 3 Stooges enriched my childhood and gave me early valuable lessons about not getting poked in the eye with a finger. Anyone who says bad things about the Stooges, is also saying bad things about me, since I have always considered myself the lost 5th Stooge. (more obscure than the 4th Stooge) You'd need to be the 6th stooge-- there was Curly, Larry, Moe, Curly Joe, and Shemp. BTW, prepare to be rally offended: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383010/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dorchester County, MD fireball reported 30MAR09
Unfortunately it sounds as if it may have dropped into the Atlantic if the reports describing a west to east direction of flight are correct. In a message dated 3/30/2009 9:55:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, geo...@aol.com writes: After reading whats posted on the meteorobs mailing list, it sounds like a meteorite dropper to me. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Over the past few months or so I've been tracking many fireball sightings and suspected new falls all over the world. Recently we've had no fewer than 4 right here in the United States. Not to mention the Denmark fall, Tamdaught, West, Westchester, Augusta, Sacramento, and the Merced Fireball. And the largest meteorite fall in Canadian history Buzzard Coulee! I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Now another big event near MD, VA area: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 I asked this a week or so ago, but got very little response other than yeah sure. Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? Is our planet traveling through a large field of asteroidal space debris right now? How can some many fireballs and meteorite falls happen in such a short period of time unless this were the case? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? It doesn't seem so to me. geozay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
EricIsn't this abnormally high meteor activity? geozayIt doesn't seem so to me. Let me add something I just found in IMO's (International Meteor Organization)Visual Handbook, Chapter 5.2 under Fireballs: Then, there is a seasonal variation: around the time of the vernal equinox, fireball rates are about 3 times the rates seen around the autumnal equinox in the northern hemisphere. This ratio was derived by Halliday and Griffin (1982) for meteorite falls. It was proven by Rendtel and Knofel (1989) for visual and photographic fireballs. George Zay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Hello Eric, four days ago I tried to post the following text to the list but obviously it didn't get through: Estimated list-members, sorry, in German only, but interesting regarding the question whether the subjective impression of more meteoroids hitting earth correlates to an objective fact: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wissen/678/462297/text/ Short summary: Refering to Nasa expert David Morrison an increasing accumulation of meteoritical material in the mud-layer at the deep sea bottom proves that our solar system passes throgh a region of denser space-traffic during the last few years. (With other words: Bassikounou, Chergach, Hosur, Tamdaght, West, Lolland, Station 6 etc. - obviously not only just by chance.) In this context the text also underlines the increasing probability of bigger asteroids hitting our planet. But, alas, in contrary to the USA nearly nothing seems to be done in Europe to reenforce programms for monitoring the asteroidical traffic around earth. Best regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Over the past few months or so I've been tracking many fireball sightings and suspected new falls all over the world. Recently we've had no fewer than 4 right here in the United States. Not to mention the Denmark fall, Tamdaught, West, Westchester, Augusta, Sacramento, and the Merced Fireball. And the largest meteorite fall in Canadian history Buzzard Coulee! I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Now another big event near MD, VA area: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 I asked this a week or so ago, but got very little response other than yeah sure. Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? Is our planet traveling through a large field of asteroidal space debris right now? How can some many fireballs and meteorite falls happen in such a short period of time unless this were the case? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? Is our planet traveling through a large field of asteroidal space debris right now? How can some many fireballs and meteorite falls happen in such a short period of time unless this were the case? Random statistics over a longer timescale doesn´t necessarily yield a smooth and uniform distribution of events and won´t exclude some clumping at times, given usual confidence levels. Then again other plausible *natural* causes or mechanisms, apart from the regular seasonal variations that George just mentioned, can also not be ruled out. This will need some deeper investigation as time goes by, but may be hard to verify. Alex Berlin/Germany __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hampton Fireball- news video link
Hello List, Well, looks like we should have a pretty good idea where any meteorites might have landed. I mean, after all, the fireball was only 5 FEET !! above the house of this woman's mother, AND--- it was only going 60--70 miles per hour!! Couldn't have gone TOO much farther, right? ;-) Another classic case of how little the general public understands the dynamics of a meteor, and how difficult it is to determine how far away a bright light at night might truly be. http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/? rn=4226712cl=12727172src=news Robert Woolard __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
It looks like we're on track to have one meteorite per month: Oct. Sudan (2008 TC3) Nov. Buzzard Coulee Dec. Tamdakht Jan. Denmark Feb. West Mar. Augusta, GA? One per month is a great fall rate, and I hope they keep coming! Still, I don't think this activity is high enough to support your theory of a debris cloud. Notice that the 5 most recent confirmed falls have been 5 different types: Sudan is ureilite, Buzzard Coulee is H4, Tamdakht is H5, Denmark is a carbonaceous chondrite, and West is L6. How would your theory support such a variety of incoming material? My theory: more fireballs and meteorites are getting reported, but that doesn't necessarily mean more fireballs and meteorites are occuring. I'd like to make 4 points: 1. Each year, the Earth's population increases. 2. More people are learning about what meteorites are, thanks to mainstream TV shows on the History Channel, etc. 3. More people are learning that meteorites are worth big $$$, thanks to news coverage. 4. Each year, more and more people are getting connected to the internet. Put all of this together, and you have: more people + more awareness + more motivation + a global way to get news out. Personally, I think this explains the higher number of fireballs and witnessed falls getting reported each year. I'd like to know what others think about this. I'd also say that over the past year or two, the meteorite collecting community has become much more focused on witnessed falls and hammers. This means we're not letting any suspected falls get overlooked. If this Georgia fireball had happened a few years ago, would it have gotten this much attention on the list? All the best- --Noah - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Over the past few months or so I've been tracking many fireball sightings and suspected new falls all over the world. Recently we've had no fewer than 4 right here in the United States. Not to mention the Denmark fall, Tamdaught, West, Westchester, Augusta, Sacramento, and the Merced Fireball. And the largest meteorite fall in Canadian history Buzzard Coulee! I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Now another big event near MD, VA area: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 I asked this a week or so ago, but got very little response other than yeah sure. Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? Is our planet traveling through a large field of asteroidal space debris right now? How can some many fireballs and meteorite falls happen in such a short period of time unless this were the case? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
It looks like we're on track to have one meteorite per month: Oct. Sudan (2008 TC3) Nov. Buzzard Coulee Dec. Tamdakht Jan. Denmark Feb. West Mar. Augusta, GA? One per month is a great fall rate, and I hope they keep coming! Still, I don't think this activity is high enough to support your theory of a debris cloud. Notice that the 5 most recent confirmed falls have been 5 different types: Sudan is ureilite, Buzzard Coulee is H4, Tamdakht is H5, Denmark is a carbonaceous chondrite, and West is L6. How would your theory support such a variety of incoming material? My theory: more fireballs and meteorites are getting reported, but that doesn't necessarily mean more fireballs and meteorites are occuring. I'd like to make 4 points: 1. Each year, the Earth's population increases. 2. More people are learning about what meteorites are, thanks to mainstream TV shows on the History Channel, etc. 3. More people are learning that meteorites are worth big $$$, thanks to news coverage. 4. Each year, more and more people are getting connected to the internet. Put all of this together, and you have: more people + more awareness + more motivation + a global way to get news out. Personally, I think this explains the higher number of fireballs and witnessed falls getting reported each year. I'd like to know what others think about this. I'd also say that over the past year or two, the meteorite collecting community has become much more focused on witnessed falls and hammers. This means we're not letting any suspected falls get overlooked. If this Georgia fireball had happened a few years ago, would it have gotten this much attention on the list? All the best- --Noah - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Over the past few months or so I've been tracking many fireball sightings and suspected new falls all over the world. Recently we've had no fewer than 4 right here in the United States. Not to mention the Denmark fall, Tamdaught, West, Westchester, Augusta, Sacramento, and the Merced Fireball. And the largest meteorite fall in Canadian history Buzzard Coulee! I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Now another big event near MD, VA area: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 I asked this a week or so ago, but got very little response other than yeah sure. Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? Is our planet traveling through a large field of asteroidal space debris right now? How can some many fireballs and meteorite falls happen in such a short period of time unless this were the case? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Hello List, Here is my take on the recent falls in North America. While there actually may be more now, as it seems like we had a long drought since Park Forest, I am wandering if much of this can be traced back to Buzzard Coulee. The Canadian event gained strong media attention shortly after it fell, and then the drama provided some great follow up stories as meteorites were actually found. Remember, Park Forest happened a couple weeks into our invasion into Iraq, and as such did not get anything near what it should have in media coverage. Monahans fell a couple of days after the Oklahoma City Bombings. Other falls just didn't get much coverage either. I remember in late 2005 (maybe very early 2006) a photographer for the Wichita Eagle came back to take photos for a follow up Brenham story a month or so after the release of the Main Mass find. He told me that the first story about the Main Mass got more hits on the newspaper's web site than any other story in the history of the paper! And I checked back after each story and it seemed each of the 4 or so follow up meteorite stories in the Wichita paper were getting the top number of hits in the given month the stories ran. Who would have ever thought meteorites were that interesting? All of a sudden the Canadian meteor(ite) story gets great coverage, as do the follow up stories, so editors everywhere now know that local fireball sightings are good news stories. Not only that, the might even lead to even bigger stories where meteorites are recovered. All in all, I think this is a case that meteorites are rising in stature in the pop culture. Maybe before, there were just as many fireballs, just fewer people may have reported them, and even fewer editors found them newsworthy. I am just hoping for a 1933 rate of local falls with recoveries to hit the U.S. again! Then again, someone up there might be mad at us and is throwing rocks at us! Steve Arnold Arkansas **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Hi List, Hi Matthias, I have a logical problem with the statement of Nasa expert David Morrison. The Meteorites we know are all from our solar system, so how it's possible the fall rate is increasing by a flight from our solar system through a region of denser space-traffic? Does this mean more Meteorites have been activated to leave the asteroid belt in the past? Andi Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Matthias Bärmann Gesendet: Montag, 30. März 2009 17:59 An: Meteorites USA; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Hello Eric, four days ago I tried to post the following text to the list but obviously it didn't get through: Estimated list-members, sorry, in German only, but interesting regarding the question whether the subjective impression of more meteoroids hitting earth correlates to an objective fact: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/wissen/678/462297/text/ Short summary: Refering to Nasa expert David Morrison an increasing accumulation of meteoritical material in the mud-layer at the deep sea bottom proves that our solar system passes throgh a region of denser space-traffic during the last few years. (With other words: Bassikounou, Chergach, Hosur, Tamdaght, West, Lolland, Station 6 etc. - obviously not only just by chance.) In this context the text also underlines the increasing probability of bigger asteroids hitting our planet. But, alas, in contrary to the USA nearly nothing seems to be done in Europe to reenforce programms for monitoring the asteroidical traffic around earth. Best regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 5:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Over the past few months or so I've been tracking many fireball sightings and suspected new falls all over the world. Recently we've had no fewer than 4 right here in the United States. Not to mention the Denmark fall, Tamdaught, West, Westchester, Augusta, Sacramento, and the Merced Fireball. And the largest meteorite fall in Canadian history Buzzard Coulee! I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Now another big event near MD, VA area: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 I asked this a week or so ago, but got very little response other than yeah sure. Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? Is our planet traveling through a large field of asteroidal space debris right now? How can some many fireballs and meteorite falls happen in such a short period of time unless this were the case? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
The VA-MD sighting is now being classified as the spent Russian Expedition 19 booster: http://wtop.com/?nid=25sid=1636442. All the best, Greg -Original Message- From: meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Mar 30, 2009 12:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Hello List, Here is my take on the recent falls in North America. While there actually may be more now, as it seems like we had a long drought since Park Forest, I am wandering if much of this can be traced back to Buzzard Coulee. The Canadian event gained strong media attention shortly after it fell, and then the drama provided some great follow up stories as meteorites were actually found. Remember, Park Forest happened a couple weeks into our invasion into Iraq, and as such did not get anything near what it should have in media coverage. Monahans fell a couple of days after the Oklahoma City Bombings. Other falls just didn't get much coverage either. I remember in late 2005 (maybe very early 2006) a photographer for the Wichita Eagle came back to take photos for a follow up Brenham story a month or so after the release of the Main Mass find. He told me that the first story about the Main Mass got more hits on the newspaper's web site than any other story in the history of the paper! And I checked back after each story and it seemed each of the 4 or so follow up meteorite stories in the Wichita paper were getting the top number of hits in the given month the stories ran. Who would have ever thought meteorites were that interesting? All of a sudden the Canadian meteor(ite) story gets great coverage, as do the follow up stories, so editors everywhere now know that local fireball sightings are good news stories. Not only that, the might even lead to even bigger stories where meteorites are recovered. All in all, I think this is a case that meteorites are rising in stature in the pop culture. Maybe before, there were just as many fireballs, just fewer people may have reported them, and even fewer editors found them newsworthy. I am just hoping for a 1933 rate of local falls with recoveries to hit the U.S. again! Then again, someone up there might be mad at us and is throwing rocks at us! Steve Arnold Arkansas **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
I can quit worrying about getting thwacked by Uranus, then. phew On 3/30/09 9:42 AM, Greg Redfern gredf...@earthlink.net wrote: The VA-MD sighting is now being classified as the spent Russian Expedition 19 booster: http://wtop.com/?nid=25=1636442 http://wtop.com/?nid=25sid=1636442 . All the best, Greg __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] VA-MD sighting
Thanks to Greg Redfern for updating us all on the true nature of the VA-MD sighting! Guess we can all quit packing for a trip there. ;-) Robert Woolard __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Steve, The increased news coverage of Buzzard Coullee and other falls is probably one reason that there's been more reports of fireballs recently. Then the one in Sudan which I forgot to mention which was a first in the history of man. More people are looking to the skies, so awareness seems to play a big part. Maybe that does explain it a bit better than an actual increase in numbers of falls. Technological advance is another. I would venture to say maybe it's a combination of all the above. Increased awareness due to coverage, technology, and a peak in yearly activity. But maybe it is more debris as well. No way to prove that other than to look out into space and hope to see more. Eric P.S. More falls in 1933? Got any links to good reading? meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Hello List, Here is my take on the recent falls in North America. While there actually may be more now, as it seems like we had a long drought since Park Forest, I am wandering if much of this can be traced back to Buzzard Coulee. The Canadian event gained strong media attention shortly after it fell, and then the drama provided some great follow up stories as meteorites were actually found. Remember, Park Forest happened a couple weeks into our invasion into Iraq, and as such did not get anything near what it should have in media coverage. Monahans fell a couple of days after the Oklahoma City Bombings. Other falls just didn't get much coverage either. I remember in late 2005 (maybe very early 2006) a photographer for the Wichita Eagle came back to take photos for a follow up Brenham story a month or so after the release of the Main Mass find. He told me that the first story about the Main Mass got more hits on the newspaper's web site than any other story in the history of the paper! And I checked back after each story and it seemed each of the 4 or so follow up meteorite stories in the Wichita paper were getting the top number of hits in the given month the stories ran. Who would have ever thought meteorites were that interesting? All of a sudden the Canadian meteor(ite) story gets great coverage, as do the follow up stories, so editors everywhere now know that local fireball sightings are good news stories. Not only that, the might even lead to even bigger stories where meteorites are recovered. All in all, I think this is a case that meteorites are rising in stature in the pop culture. Maybe before, there were just as many fireballs, just fewer people may have reported them, and even fewer editors found them newsworthy. I am just hoping for a 1933 rate of local falls with recoveries to hit the U.S. again! Then again, someone up there might be mad at us and is throwing rocks at us! Steve Arnold Arkansas **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Hello Greg, others, According to spaceweather.com the questioned rocket booster reentered near Taiwan some hours after the Atlantic coast fireball: quote: ATLANTIC COAST FIREBALL: Last night, March 29th, around 9:45 pm EDT, people along the Atlantic coast of the USA from Maryland to North Carolina witnessed bright lights in the sky and heard thunderous rumbles. It was probably a meteoritic bolide--a random asteroid hitting Earth's atmosphere and exploding in flight. A spent Russian rocket body did reenter on March 29th, but that happened near Taiwan more than two hours after the Atlantic Coast event. End of quote. cheers Svend www.meteorite-recon.com --- The VA-MD sighting is now being classified as the spent Russian Expedition 19 booster: http://wtop.com/?nid=25sid=1636442. All the best, Greg -Original Message- From: meteorh...@aol.com Sent: Mar 30, 2009 12:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Hello List, Here is my take on the recent falls in North America. While there actually may be more now, as it seems like we had a long drought since Park Forest, I am wandering if much of this can be traced back to Buzzard Coulee. The Canadian event gained strong media attention shortly after it fell, and then the drama provided some great follow up stories as meteorites were actually found. Remember, Park Forest happened a couple weeks into our invasion into Iraq, and as such did not get anything near what it should have in media coverage. Monahans fell a couple of days after the Oklahoma City Bombings. Other falls just didn't get much coverage either. I remember in late 2005 (maybe very early 2006) a photographer for the Wichita Eagle came back to take photos for a follow up Brenham story a month or so after the release of the Main Mass find. He told me that the first story about the Main Mass got more hits on the newspaper's web site than any other story in the history of the paper! And I checked back after each story and it seemed each of the 4 or so follow up meteorite stories in the Wichita paper were getting the top number of hits in the given month the stories ran. Who would have ever thought meteorites were that interesting? All of a sudden the Canadian meteor(ite) story gets great coverage, as do the follow up stories, so editors everywhere now know that local fireball sightings are good news stories. Not only that, the might even lead to even bigger stories where meteorites are recovered. All in all, I think this is a case that meteorites are rising in stature in the pop culture. Maybe before, there were just as many fireballs, just fewer people may have reported them, and even fewer editors found them newsworthy. I am just hoping for a 1933 rate of local falls with recoveries to hit the U.S. again! Then again, someone up there might be mad at us and is throwing rocks at us! Steve Arnold Arkansas **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:% 2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- www.meteorite-recon.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Doesn't one large asteroid (miles across) have multiple types of meteoritic material? Iron at the core, silicate and iron mix surrounding that, chondritic material, and achondritic nearer the surface of an asteroid. Or am I watching too many meteorite videos? ;) If accretion is correct and iron migrates to the center of a large body, then it would make sense that lighter less dense materials would surround that. When two asteroids impact wouldn't they cause all these types to intermingle and spray out in all directions? In addition they create impact melts and breccias as well. What about carbonaceuous chondrites? If two large asteroids crashed into one another some million years or so ago wouldn't there be huge numbers of all different types of material thrown out into all directions? Couldn't there be multiple falls consisting of different types of meteorites but originating from the same event in space? I realize I may be missing some important facts here but if large asteroids do in fact consist of all meteoritic composition types, couldn't you argue that some or all of these falls may come from one event? I know this question might have a few people yelling at me that I don't know what I'm talking about. You're right! That's why I'm asking... ;) Regards, Eric ro...@projectargus.com wrote: It looks like we're on track to have one meteorite per month: Oct. Sudan (2008 TC3) Nov. Buzzard Coulee Dec. Tamdakht Jan. Denmark Feb. West Mar. Augusta, GA? One per month is a great fall rate, and I hope they keep coming! Still, I don't think this activity is high enough to support your theory of a debris cloud. Notice that the 5 most recent confirmed falls have been 5 different types: Sudan is ureilite, Buzzard Coulee is H4, Tamdakht is H5, Denmark is a carbonaceous chondrite, and West is L6. How would your theory support such a variety of incoming material? My theory: more fireballs and meteorites are getting reported, but that doesn't necessarily mean more fireballs and meteorites are occuring. I'd like to make 4 points: 1. Each year, the Earth's population increases. 2. More people are learning about what meteorites are, thanks to mainstream TV shows on the History Channel, etc. 3. More people are learning that meteorites are worth big $$$, thanks to news coverage. 4. Each year, more and more people are getting connected to the internet. Put all of this together, and you have: more people + more awareness + more motivation + a global way to get news out. Personally, I think this explains the higher number of fireballs and witnessed falls getting reported each year. I'd like to know what others think about this. I'd also say that over the past year or two, the meteorite collecting community has become much more focused on witnessed falls and hammers. This means we're not letting any suspected falls get overlooked. If this Georgia fireball had happened a few years ago, would it have gotten this much attention on the list? All the best- --Noah - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Over the past few months or so I've been tracking many fireball sightings and suspected new falls all over the world. Recently we've had no fewer than 4 right here in the United States. Not to mention the Denmark fall, Tamdaught, West, Westchester, Augusta, Sacramento, and the Merced Fireball. And the largest meteorite fall in Canadian history Buzzard Coulee! I'm sure I'm forgetting some. Now another big event near MD, VA area: http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 http://www.wtop.com/?nid=600sid=1636442 I asked this a week or so ago, but got very little response other than yeah sure. Isn't this abnormally high meteor activity? Is our planet traveling through a large field of asteroidal space debris right now? How can some many fireballs and meteorite falls happen in such a short period of time unless this were the case? Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded
Debris clouds get spread out pretty quickly by gravitational perturbations. An old collision in the asteroid belt between differentiated bodies would produce different types of material, but it wouldn't be in any sort of coherent orbit such that we'd see a surge in activity. In fact, there's not much evidence that we are seeing a surge in activity, and if we are, simple statistics is all you need to explain it. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com To: ro...@projectargus.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fireballs From The Sky: Bombarded Doesn't one large asteroid (miles across) have multiple types of meteoritic material? Iron at the core, silicate and iron mix surrounding that, chondritic material, and achondritic nearer the surface of an asteroid. Or am I watching too many meteorite videos? ;) If accretion is correct and iron migrates to the center of a large body, then it would make sense that lighter less dense materials would surround that. When two asteroids impact wouldn't they cause all these types to intermingle and spray out in all directions? In addition they create impact melts and breccias as well. What about carbonaceuous chondrites? If two large asteroids crashed into one another some million years or so ago wouldn't there be huge numbers of all different types of material thrown out into all directions? Couldn't there be multiple falls consisting of different types of meteorites but originating from the same event in space? I realize I may be missing some important facts here but if large asteroids do in fact consist of all meteoritic composition types, couldn't you argue that some or all of these falls may come from one event? I know this question might have a few people yelling at me that I don't know what I'm talking about. You're right! That's why I'm asking... ;) Regards, Eric __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (AD0 ARROYO MALO/BERDUC FOR TRADE OR CASH/TRADE
Hi list.My oh my this day is just swinging along.I have a 50.9 gram whole stone individual of ARROYO MALO/BERDUC I am willing to trade or do a cash/trade as well.This piece is jet black fusion which is 100%.Please let me know off list. Steve R.Arnold No#1!,Chicago! a rel=nofollow/a __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite Deals: Premium NWA End Cuts, Slices 869
Hi Listees and Meteorite Mongers, This weeks sale is better than ever. Better hurry on this one though. Due to the nature of this sale I cannot not hold any pieces. First come first served. These pieces are priced to move fast! Gorgeous Premium NWA End Cuts: 1312.1 grams of end cuts and slices of premium NWA chondrites. These I usually sell for .60/g to $1/g or more. Sale price is as low as .30/g. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/nwa/ Don't forget to check out the NWA 869 I have on sale as well. I have some awesome great bulk deals and super low prices. The more you buy the more you'll save. Prices as low as .20/g for bulk lots. There's some really good whole and almost whole 90% to 100% crusted individuals as well. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/nwa-869.htm I'll be adding more throughout the week and have some really nice choice hand picked stones (90% to 100% whole) that will be in lots of 50 and 100 grams. If you just want to buy the whole bunch and save me the trouble of bagging them up email me and I'll send you photos of the whole lot. Price is .50/g and I have about 1.6 kilos of them available. Not to mention the very nicely dry crusted pieces. These whole and fragmented specimens exhibit wonderful dry and crackly looking crust. Certainly not your ordinary 869. These are .60/g but if you buy all 1222 grams I'll drop that by 50% to .30/g. Photos available upon request. Shipping is $7 for up to 1 kilo in the USA. International customers please contact me for a quote. -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 P.S. I'm testing a new display method on these pieces. Feedback on on how the page displays is appreciated. P.P.S. If you have not joined my PRIVATE sale list and like the quality you see, you will probably want to be updated first. To receive first dibs on my sales BEFORE I publish them on the list or anywhere then join my list. http://www.meteoritesusa.com/newsletter/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite Deals: Premium NWA End Cuts, Slices 869
UPDATE: All items on the NWA sale Page are SOLD. Still some here: http://www.meteoritesusa.com/nwa-869.htm -- Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA http://www.meteoritesusa.com 904-236-5394 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Habitual Line Crossing....
Erik, Well said!!! Although I do not actively post, I do follow the list. From: erikfw...@msn.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:45:35 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Habitual Line Crossing It's been a year or two since I have followed the list. Only a few months ago have I returned to following the list again. It's a great source of information to share with my science teacher at my high school, past and present. I also enjoy reading about the latest falls, price updating, and networking. However, it is not enjoyable to read the conquests, arguments, fights, personal attacks, skirmishes. Debating a topic is one of the best parts of being involved in the scientific community. Forgetting some important things can lead to crossing the line from making your point to making yourself look like a jerk! Here are some to keep in mind when posting: Integrity Honor Valor Excellency We all slip. Some more than others. Regardless, we all shouldn't forget the most important things: Forgiveness understanding. For those of us who need more refining (like me) a great guide of manners is the list of manners George Washington wrote when he was only 16: http://www.history.org/Almanack/life/manners/rules2.cfm [Erik] __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Windows Live™ SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gold-plated Gibeon on eBay
Hello all, Speaking of odd meteorite goings-on on eBay, some of you have probably noticed the gold-plated Gibeon slices for sale. The description says that the plating will prevent the meteorite from ever rusting. I know Gibeon is generally not a ruster (not exclusively though, and I've got a problem slice to prove it) but I'm skeptical of the claims. Is there any truth to the plating process being effective? Thanks, Bob __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gold-plated Gibeon on eBay
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:14:09 -0500, you wrote: Gibeon is generally not a ruster (not exclusively though, and I've got a problem slice to prove it) but I'm skeptical of the claims. Is there any truth to the plating process being effective? After you get your gold-plated Gibeon, it would probably be prudent to spend a little extra to have it bronzed, just to be sure. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: NWA SALE
I havent been having many sales lately and my website has been looking a little bare recently but hopefully that will change over the next little while. See my new sale website here: http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale23.html I will be adding the link to my website tomorrow but a 20% discount for today on anything of interest. Shipping starts at $5 and runs around $16 a kilo. Sincerely DEAN BESSEY PS: While you are at it see my ebay auctions also where I have a couple hundred other meteorites listed and am into doing deals on anything that might be of interest. See my ebay user id AMUNRE http://www.meteoriteshop.com/meteoritesale/wsale23.html __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gold-plated Gibeon on eBay
I spent a few years working in a plating shop and I can tell you that the results are only as good as the prep work. Plate over anything with a hint of lawrencite disease wouldn't last no matter what was done to prepare it. A solid flawless center slice might hold up well and since gold plating is usually just a flash of gold you could easily polish off the gold at a future date. _ Internet Explorer 8 – Get your Hotmail Accelerated. Download free! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
