[meteorite-list] Wise County, WA, Tacoma area meteor 17APR09

2009-04-18 Thread drtanuki

Dear List,
  Yet another meteor/fireball report in the news; this time in Wise County in 
the Tacoma, Washington area on the early morning of April 17th, Friday:

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/

Best Regards, Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 18, 2009

2009-04-18 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_18_2009.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] A paper on NWA 869

2009-04-18 Thread gian gallo

Hola. We knew it.and now its petrologic classis all the way long.
 
larense
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] A paper on NWA 869
 
 Dated 2008, but I've never ran across it before:
 
 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2008/pdf/1120.pdf
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Re: [meteorite-list] How 'bout a Wise meteorite?

2009-04-18 Thread GeoZay
Okay...this is what I get out of this event.  First of all, it occurred 
while the Lyrid meteor shower is active and the  radiant was still up. So it 
could be a Lyrid, although this Major shower isn't  all that major every 
year, but still active. The Lyrids peak around April 21/22.  Lyrid or not, I 
get the impression that it was of short duration and moved  relatively 
fast...that is not an earthgrazer. I interpret this from the  statement that 
says, 
brief spectacle and the fireball streaked down on an  easterly arc. 
These also make me want to lean in the direction that it could be  a Lyrid. The 
Lyrids have a relatively fast entry velocity of 48 km/s. Lyrid or  sporadic, 
I get the impression that it was cometary material all the same. Thus  too 
fast for a meteorite dropping object made up of stronger asteroidal  
material.  I recognize the often typical witness statement of ...at what  
appeared 
to be just a few hundred feet above the terrain. Which often means to  
them that it landed just right over yonder or something like that. In actuality 
 this object was probably at least a hundred miles away. When a meteor 
appears to  be streaking down near the horizon, it's either a long ways off 
or 
should be  producing sonic booms for someone to report followed by a large 
impact. So...my  overall impression is that it was a nice show for the Ooo 
and Ahhher's, but not  a meteorite dropper. :O)
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[meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?

2009-04-18 Thread habibi abdelaziz

hi all,
too much controversy about this tamedaght phenomena,
most of the collector think that what is melted with the meteorite in photo are 
small tiny meteorite like pearls,
and its made from biggest meteorite orientation and fusion,

well under my microscope it's a meteorite melted with earth rock,
have check again and its like melted and glued by black matiere like point of 
glue of crust

first time i see thing , very amazing,
here are more photo in high resolution , you can make them bigger true flickr,

enjoy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/

aziz habibi
I.M.C.A # 6220 habibi aziz 
box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
phone. 21235576145 
fax.21235576170 


  
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[meteorite-list] Live in Phoenix? Got Slices or saw?

2009-04-18 Thread Erik Fisler

I'm teaching 6 periods of astronomy on the basics of meteorites 
next week and I need a slice or two of an ordinary chondrite.
Does anyone have slices for sale or a saw I can use and lives
in the phoenix area?  
 
[Erik]
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[meteorite-list] Good trimsaw for stony meteorite cutting?

2009-04-18 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Listees!

I have a quick question for the saw owners who cut their own stones -

What is a good 6 trimsaw for cutting stony meteorites?

Can someone recommend a brand/model or give a link to good reliable supplier?

Thanks in advance!

MikeG
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[meteorite-list] Villalbeto de la Pena strewnfield

2009-04-18 Thread David Allepuz

Yes, Pierre, there will be a dam near Villalbeto.
I was there last september hunting for meteorites (without any success) and 
saw a lot of trucks moving rocks.
But as fas as I know it misses by only some hundred meters the southwestern 
part of the official strewn field, where the small pieces were located.

But strewn fields are a dinamic concept...
I'll hunt again this field next July, and will take a special look to all 
this place specially.


David Allepuz

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To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Villalbeto de la Pena strewnfield




Hello to the List,

I just found on Google that southern part of the Villalbeto strewnfield 
would be partly cancelled by a dam.


Links to the photos  : http://villalbeto.blogspot.com/

Pierre-Marie Pele




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Re: [meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?

2009-04-18 Thread ensoramanda
I cannot see how this could happensurely for it to happen the meteorite 
would have to still be in incandescent flight on impact which would be too fast 
for a stoney meteorite to survive like this...what does anyone else think?

Graham Ensor, UK
 habibi abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 
 hi all,
 too much controversy about this tamedaght phenomena,
 most of the collector think that what is melted with the meteorite in photo 
 are small tiny meteorite like pearls,
 and its made from biggest meteorite orientation and fusion,
 
 well under my microscope it's a meteorite melted with earth rock,
 have check again and its like melted and glued by black matiere like point of 
 glue of crust
 
 first time i see thing , very amazing,
 here are more photo in high resolution , you can make them bigger true flickr,
 
 enjoy
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/
 
 aziz habibi
 I.M.C.A # 6220 habibi aziz 
 box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
 phone. 21235576145 
 fax.21235576170 
 
 
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?

2009-04-18 Thread Pete Pete

 
 
Is heat from impact possible?
 
 



 Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 20:14:57 +0100
 From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; azizhab...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?

 I cannot see how this could happensurely for it to happen the meteorite 
 would have to still be in incandescent flight on impact which would be too 
 fast for a stoney meteorite to survive like this...what does anyone else 
 think?

 Graham Ensor, UK
  habibi abdelaziz wrote:

 hi all,
 too much controversy about this tamedaght phenomena,
 most of the collector think that what is melted with the meteorite in photo 
 are small tiny meteorite like pearls,
 and its made from biggest meteorite orientation and fusion,

 well under my microscope it's a meteorite melted with earth rock,
 have check again and its like melted and glued by black matiere like point 
 of glue of crust

 first time i see thing , very amazing,
 here are more photo in high resolution , you can make them bigger true 
 flickr,

 enjoy
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/

 aziz habibi
 I.M.C.A # 6220 habibi aziz
 box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco
 phone. 21235576145
 fax.21235576170



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Re: [meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?

2009-04-18 Thread Chris Peterson
Not only that, but the bulk of the impacting meteorite would still be cold. 
A few millimeters of incandescent surface wouldn't do this. The only way to 
get significant heat at the point of impact is from the kinetic energy of 
the collision itself. And that much energy shouldn't leave much of the 
original material larger than dust. The whole thing is fishy.


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From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com
To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; habibi 
abdelaziz azizhab...@yahoo.com

Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?


I cannot see how this could happensurely for it to happen the meteorite 
would have to still be in incandescent flight on impact which would be too 
fast for a stoney meteorite to survive like this...what does anyone else 
think?


Graham Ensor, UK


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[meteorite-list] Re-2: TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?

2009-04-18 Thread bernd . pauli
Chris writes:

And that much energy shouldn't leave much
 of the original material larger than dust.

Hi Pete and List,

In other words, the impacting meteoroid would have had to have a mass
big enough to reach the ground at cosmic velocity - impossible for small
pieces like the Tamedaght stones! This would take an iron like the Hoba
to survive such deceleration forces. But even the Hoba iron seems to have
landed rather smoothly. So something like the Canyon Diablo impactor
is necessary to yield the results described by Aziz Habibi.

My two Euro-cents,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Re : TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?

2009-04-18 Thread habibi abdelaziz

i agree with bernd and chris ,
the mass must be big to keep the velocity speed enough to make resistance of 
air burn the meteorite in impact, THE SMALL METEORITE BECOME COLD FASTER?

than what is this thing glued to the meteorite , is it small tiny meteorite 
transformed,BY THE IMPACT???

martin altman and stefan ralew has the same material may be they have a better 
adea, of what is it?

thanks
aziz
 font style=BACKGROUND-COLOR:#40; face=comic sans mshabibi aziz 
box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco 
phone. 21235576145 
fax.21235576170/font 



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Is heat from impact possible?   Date: 
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meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; azizhab...@yahoo.com  Subject: Re: 
[meteorite-list] TAMEDAGHT PHENOMENA MUSEUM METEORITE?   I cannot see how 
this could happensurely for it to happen the meteorite would have to still 
be in incandescent flight on impact which would be too fast for a stoney 
meteorite to survive like this...what does anyone else think?   Graham Ensor, 
UK   habibi abdelaziz wrote:   hi all,  too much controversy about 
this tamedaght phenomena,  most of the collector think that what is melted 
with the meteorite in photo are small tiny meteorite like pearls,  and its 
made from biggest meteorite orientation and fusion,   well under my 
microscope it's a meteorite melted with earth rock,  have check again and its 
like melted and glued by black matiere like point of
 glue of crust   first time i see thing , very amazing,  here are more 
photo in high resolution , you can make them bigger true flickr,   enjoy  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/   aziz habibi  I.M.C.A # 6220 
habibi aziz  box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco  phone. 21235576145  
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[meteorite-list] Forwarding Nels' post to the List

2009-04-18 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello All,

I think Nels' post was meant to be sent to the List, but, obviously, he only
sent it to me. So, let me forward it to the List. I am sure Nels doesn't mind!

Best wishes,

Bernd


Nels' post:

All, It is pretty obvious that the phenomena viewed is ablated material that 
has been sucked into the vacuum vortex behind a larger body and been 
rewelded, if you will to the firey backside of the stone, it then shattered 
and the shattered pieces are what Mr Habibi has found. I have a stone 
similar, see attached photo! Thanks Nels

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[meteorite-list] AD- 107 gram African Iron

2009-04-18 Thread Rob Wesel

Hello all

I have a cute little African Iron I'm willing to let go at $3 per gram, 
email off-list for photos.


For those who don't like fixed prices I do have some auctions ending on eBay 
tomorrow.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnakhladog

Sunny and warm in Oregon,

Rob Wesel
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[meteorite-list] AD - Another Batch

2009-04-18 Thread Impactika
Hello,

One more batch done!

Yes, I am still working on that huge pile of new specimens I have. And this 
time I posted a new bunch of thin-sections, with great pictures of course.
Please have a look: http://www.impactika.com/TSlist.htm

Now, what will I do next?  
If you have any request, please do speak up.
Thanks.  


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[meteorite-list] Best institutional tektite collections?

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Morgan
Hello everyone,
I was wondering where some of the better tektite collections are
located and how much is on display.  I'm mostly interested in the US
but feel free to include others.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Re: [meteorite-list] Best institutional tektite collections?

2009-04-18 Thread Aubrey Whymark
Hi List

I started some museum pages on my website a while back, it would be
great to add to these museums if anyone has photos of tektite
collections. www.tektites.co.uk/museums

The British Museum of Natural History currently has a very poor
display, bar a few nice Ivory Coast tektites. I believe this may
improve in the future.

The French Natural History Museum sadly has no tektites on display,
despite the work by Lacroix.

I believe the Czech Natural History Museum has a good display, but I
have no more information.

In Australia I guess there are a number of excellent displays -
Certainly a good display is found in the Western Australian Museum.

In the US I have little information - if you have some info and photos
of tektite displays you can email me at aub...@tektites.co.uk for
inclusion in my webpage. I have learnt that Virgil Barnes donated his
collection to the Texas Memorial Museum

In the Philippines I believe there are no displays. There used to be
one at the Planetarium, but that was under renovation, and I believe
still is. No idea if tektites will be back on display there when it
opens again.

Regards, Aubrey
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 Hello everyone,
 I was wondering where some of the better tektite collections are
 located and how much is on display.  I'm mostly interested in the US
 but feel free to include others.  Any suggestions?

 Thanks,
 Phil
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Re: [meteorite-list] Best institutional tektite collections?

2009-04-18 Thread nlehrman

Greetings to all,

As we speak, a final inspection is underway leading to the sale of the Futrell 
tektite collection to a new impact museum in Canada.  As soon as the deal is 
final, I'll circulate details.  This will surely be one of the top exhibits 
ever.  While probably not exceptional in any single category, the collection 
has excellent breadth as well as some famous individual specimens.  There is a 
summary inventory on our website (TektiteSource.com)on the Futrell collection 
page.

It'll be great to finally have this collection out where we can see it all 
arrayed before us!

All the best from Tanzania,
Norm

--- On Sat, 4/18/09, Aubrey Whymark tekti...@googlemail.com wrote:

 From: Aubrey Whymark tekti...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Best institutional tektite collections?
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 8:46 PM
 Hi List
 
 I started some museum pages on my website a while back, it
 would be
 great to add to these museums if anyone has photos of
 tektite
 collections. www.tektites.co.uk/museums
 
 The British Museum of Natural History currently has a very
 poor
 display, bar a few nice Ivory Coast tektites. I believe
 this may
 improve in the future.
 
 The French Natural History Museum sadly has no tektites on
 display,
 despite the work by Lacroix.
 
 I believe the Czech Natural History Museum has a good
 display, but I
 have no more information.
 
 In Australia I guess there are a number of excellent
 displays -
 Certainly a good display is found in the Western Australian
 Museum.
 
 In the US I have little information - if you have some info
 and photos
 of tektite displays you can email me at aub...@tektites.co.uk
 for
 inclusion in my webpage. I have learnt that Virgil Barnes
 donated his
 collection to the Texas Memorial Museum
 
 In the Philippines I believe there are no displays. There
 used to be
 one at the Planetarium, but that was under renovation, and
 I believe
 still is. No idea if tektites will be back on display there
 when it
 opens again.
 
 Regards, Aubrey
 www.tektites.co.uk
 
 
 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Phil Morgan roxfromsp...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello everyone,
  I was wondering where some of the better tektite
 collections are
  located and how much is on display.  I'm mostly
 interested in the US
  but feel free to include others.  Any suggestions?
 
  Thanks,
  Phil
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[meteorite-list] What is Nickel content in Dronino meteorite?

2009-04-18 Thread GeoZay

Hi folks! By any chance does anyone know  what percentage of Nickel is in 
the Dronino Meteorite? I've been trying to  satisfy this curiosity, but I 
think I'm confusing myself. It seems to be  somewhere between 8% to 18%. But I 
think it's close to 8.9%. Am I in the ball  park?
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