Re: [meteorite-list] ACME tracking device

2009-07-19 Thread Brian Cox
I suspect that it was really  Wile E. Coyoteeveryone 
knows he has always used ACME devices.


Perhaps you should get The Roadrunner to help you outwit that Wile E. 
culprit!  ;-)


All the best,

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Re: [meteorite-list] 8 Month Anniversary of Buzzard Coulee - Any signof export permits?

2009-07-19 Thread Rob Wesel
Nothing yet with mine but not anticipating word till Oct/Nov, MT and Sonny 
should be first out...and soon I would think.


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Subject: [meteorite-list] 8 Month Anniversary of Buzzard Coulee - Any signof 
export permits?




Hi List!

Today is the 8-month anniversary of the Buzzard Coulee fall.  Has
there been any word about export permits being issued?  And with the
more recent falls grabbing up all of the attention, has anyone been
continuing to hunt the BC strewnfield?

Best regards,

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[meteorite-list] 8 Month Anniversary of Buzzard Coulee - Any sign of export permits?

2009-07-19 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi List!

Today is the 8-month anniversary of the Buzzard Coulee fall.  Has
there been any word about export permits being issued?  And with the
more recent falls grabbing up all of the attention, has anyone been
continuing to hunt the BC strewnfield?

Best regards,

MikeG


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[meteorite-list] I need someone to slice some Gibeon

2009-07-19 Thread Leigh Anne DelRay
Hi all,
I need someone to slice some gibeon, super super thin, and small.
I was thinking Karl in South Africa.
But I don't know how to get in touch with him, anybody know?
I need small disks about 7 mm across, and only 2 mm thick.
Any suggestions?
Thanks everyone,
Leigh Anne
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 20, 2009

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Bowling

Great shot!  Thanks to Geoff and the others who put together a great event.  
You've certainly inspired a lot of future meteorite enthusiasts that day!!

Mark B.
Vail, AZ

P.S.
Is someone really going to dust that ACME Track-R for fingerprints?  8?/

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> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 20, 2009
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Bowling

The lost data, think of the lost data!  Has the precautions necessary to 
protect the integrity of a site really come to HALO jumping??

Thanks for the laugh Mike, Ruben or whoever came up with it...  (I've got to go 
now and check the car and truck...)

Mark B.
Vail, AZ

--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Michael Farmer  wrote:

> From: Michael Farmer 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 9:51 AM
> 
> I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing
> to depart for field operations in southern Arizona, Greg
> Hupe discovered an illicit GPS tracking device placed under
> my car! Ruben, I know it was you! 
> This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may
> keep me out of the field for a few days. Sadly this will
> lead to the loss of inmportant data. 
> Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any
> information on this object please call me ASAP.
> 
> http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG
> 
> My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the
> hot zone. Camping at my gate is futile. 
> Michael Farmer
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 20, 2009

2009-07-19 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/July_20_2009.html










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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Notkin

Darryl posted:

 I'm confident history will reveal we are living in the Mike Farmer  
Era.



Dear Darryl:

Friend to friend, please go easy on the raw opium while you're out  
there in mysterious Orient. I know it makes you feel all giddy for a  
while, but they tell me it can make you a little crazy over time  : )


Hey, I'm just kiddin' with you. I hope Dianne's tour is going well and  
please make time to come back and see us in February for the 2010 gem  
show.




Cheers from Tucson,

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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Darryl Pitt



Hi,

I'm working in Shanghai (with the added benefit of being perfectly  
located for the upcoming total solar eclipse) and have paid scant  
attention to the list the last couple of weeks.


Two threads woven together

Mike, I believe Mark's advice is extremely wise on all counts.

Separately, but not altogether, re the subject of of the "best"  
meteorite hunter---If I've said it once I've said it a thousand  
times:  if we're talking about who has inherited Bob Haag's  
mantle...if we're talking about who has kicked the temperature of  
meteorite awareness up several notches, I'm confident history will  
reveal we are living in the Mike Farmer Era.


While Mike may not possess the most unparalleled meteorite hunting  
skill set (the same could be said of Bob) his recent finds,  
recoveries, tenacity and accompanying "bandwidth" have done more for  
the recent widespread popularization of meteorites than any other  
hunter--by far.   I've taken the "most diplomatic" and "most  
circumspect" out of the equation ;-)



All best to everyone / Darryl



On Jul 19, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Mark Grossman wrote:


Just a quick question.

Why is contacting the IMCA your first move, when it sounds like the  
police should be notified?


Why bring this to the attention of the entire list, and furthermore  
expose yourself to to possible accusations of libel by accusing  
someone in this manner, especially if it happens to turn out that it  
was someone else who placed the device there?


I am not taking any sides here.  I purchased my first meteorite from  
Mike Farmer, and it was a very nice specimen.  I have had no  
interaction with any of the other parties involved.


But I think things are really starting to get out of hand.

This really does not belong on the list - it is a police matter, and  
if it turns out it is not someone who you think it is, advertising  
the situation is just going to make it more difficult to find the  
culprit.


Just my two cents - back to lurking.

Mark Grossman

- Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" >

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!




I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart  
for field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an  
illicit GPS tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it  
was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me  
out of the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss  
of inmportant data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any  
information on this object please call me ASAP.


http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot  
zone. Camping at my gate is futile.

Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks!

2009-07-19 Thread Michael Blood
Thanks to everyone for the photos! I will try not to dissapoint.
Best wishes, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Grossman
I guess the issue is that everyone expects Mike to act a certain way - not 
judging good or bad here at all - and when he switches gears, it catches 
some of us off guard!


I'm willing to bet there were several list members who heard that "whoosh" 
over their heads!


Mark Grossman

- Original Message - 
From: "michael cottingham" 

To: 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!



Hello,

Of course it is a joke, everyone knows that Acme brand tracking gizmos 
are useless. The best tracking devices are those made by "Tom Brown"  The 
"Tracker".


Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:23 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote:


Mike,

Did you call the cops?

Did you fill up a police report?

Send me a copy of that police report.

And if it is a joke, I'll expect an apology.


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In a message dated 7/19/2009 7:04:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
meteorite...@yahoo.com writes:
I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart  for
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an  illicit 
GPS

tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me  out 
of

the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of  inmportant
data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any  information 
on

this object please call me ASAP.

http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone.
Camping at my gate is futile.
Michael Farmer


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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,

Of course it is a joke, everyone knows that Acme brand tracking gizmos  
are useless. The best tracking devices are those made by "Tom Brown"  
The "Tracker".


Best Wishes

Michael Cottingham
On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:23 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote:


Mike,

Did you call the cops?

Did you fill up a police report?

Send me a copy of that police report.

And if it is a joke, I'll expect an apology.


Anne M. Black
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_impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
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_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)



In a message dated 7/19/2009 7:04:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
meteorite...@yahoo.com writes:
I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart  
for
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an  
illicit GPS

tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me  
out of
the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of  
inmportant

data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any  
information on

this object please call me ASAP.

http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone.
Camping at my gate is futile.
Michael Farmer


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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Darren Garrison
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:23:24 EDT, you wrote:
> 
>And if it is a joke, I'll expect an apology.

Seemed to be blatantly obvioulsy a joke-- even before looking at the photo that
removed any trace of a doubt-- and based on the "meteorite hunting ethics"
thread.

That "whoosh" sound passing over your head wasn't a meteorite.  :-)
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Impactika
Mike,
 
Did you call the cops?
 
Did you fill up a police report?
 
Send me a copy of that police report.
 
And if it is a joke, I'll expect an apology.
 
 
Anne M. Black
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Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/19/2009 7:04:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
meteorite...@yahoo.com writes:
I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart for 
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an illicit GPS 
tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you! 
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me out of 
the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of inmportant 
data. 
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any information on 
this object please call me ASAP.

http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone. 
Camping at my gate is futile. 
Michael Farmer


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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Grossman

Yes, but maybe it was some evil newbie at work!

In any event, such is the price of fame.

Mark Grossman

- Original Message - 
From: "michael cottingham" 

To: "Mark Grossman" 
Cc: "Michael Farmer" ; 


Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!



Hello,

We all know it was the work of someone on this list, like maybe, Carl,  or 
the Meteorite Men, or maybe even Michael Casper.


Michael
On Jul 19, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Mark Grossman wrote:


Just a quick question.

Why is contacting the IMCA your first move, when it sounds like the 
police should be notified?


Why bring this to the attention of the entire list, and furthermore 
expose yourself to to possible accusations of libel by accusing  someone 
in this manner, especially if it happens to turn out that it  was someone 
else who placed the device there?


I am not taking any sides here.  I purchased my first meteorite from 
Mike Farmer, and it was a very nice specimen.  I have had no  interaction 
with any of the other parties involved.


But I think things are really starting to get out of hand.

This really does not belong on the list - it is a police matter, and  if 
it turns out it is not someone who you think it is, advertising  the 
situation is just going to make it more difficult to find the  culprit.


Just my two cents - back to lurking.

Mark Grossman

- Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" 

>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!




I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart  for 
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an  illicit 
GPS tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it  was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me  out 
of the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss  of 
inmportant data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any  information 
on this object please call me ASAP.


http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot  zone. 
Camping at my gate is futile.

Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,

We all know it was the work of someone on this list, like maybe, Carl,  
or the Meteorite Men, or maybe even Michael Casper.


Michael
On Jul 19, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Mark Grossman wrote:


Just a quick question.

Why is contacting the IMCA your first move, when it sounds like the  
police should be notified?


Why bring this to the attention of the entire list, and furthermore  
expose yourself to to possible accusations of libel by accusing  
someone in this manner, especially if it happens to turn out that it  
was someone else who placed the device there?


I am not taking any sides here.  I purchased my first meteorite from  
Mike Farmer, and it was a very nice specimen.  I have had no  
interaction with any of the other parties involved.


But I think things are really starting to get out of hand.

This really does not belong on the list - it is a police matter, and  
if it turns out it is not someone who you think it is, advertising  
the situation is just going to make it more difficult to find the  
culprit.


Just my two cents - back to lurking.

Mark Grossman

- Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" >

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!




I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart  
for field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an  
illicit GPS tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it  
was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me  
out of the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss  
of inmportant data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any  
information on this object please call me ASAP.


http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot  
zone. Camping at my gate is futile.

Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Grossman

Just a quick question.

Why is contacting the IMCA your first move, when it sounds like the police 
should be notified?


Why bring this to the attention of the entire list, and furthermore expose 
yourself to to possible accusations of libel by accusing someone in this 
manner, especially if it happens to turn out that it was someone else who 
placed the device there?


I am not taking any sides here.  I purchased my first meteorite from Mike 
Farmer, and it was a very nice specimen.  I have had no interaction with any 
of the other parties involved.


But I think things are really starting to get out of hand.

This really does not belong on the list - it is a police matter, and if it 
turns out it is not someone who you think it is, advertising the situation 
is just going to make it more difficult to find the culprit.


Just my two cents - back to lurking.

Mark Grossman

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Farmer" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!




I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart for 
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an illicit GPS 
tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me out of 
the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of inmportant 
data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any information on 
this object please call me ASAP.


http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone. 
Camping at my gate is futile.

Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Mark Grossman

Mike

I think I am freaking out!

I just hope everyone takes it as a joke considering everything that has been 
posted to the list in recent weeks.


In any event, as I said, I'm not taking any sides, and I owe my introduction 
to meteorites to Mike Farmer.


Just that things are stating to get a bit scary!

Back to lurking!

Mark

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Farmer" 

To: "Mark Grossman" 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!




Mark
Come on read it again look at the photo. It is a joke man.
Better stop this before people freak out.
Michael

Sent from my iPhone
Michael


On Jul 19, 2009, at 6:39 PM, "Mark Grossman"  wrote:

Just a quick question.

Why is contacting the IMCA your first move, when it sounds like the police 
should be notified?


Why bring this to the attention of the entire list, and furthermore expose 
yourself to to possible accusations of libel by accusing someone in this 
manner, especially if it happens to turn out that it was someone else who 
placed the device there?


I am not taking any sides here.  I purchased my first meteorite from Mike 
Farmer, and it was a very nice specimen.  I have had no interaction with 
any of the other parties involved.


But I think things are really starting to get out of hand.

This really does not belong on the list - it is a police matter, and if it 
turns out it is not someone who you think it is, advertising the situation 
is just going to make it more difficult to find the culprit.


Just my two cents - back to lurking.

Mark Grossman

- Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer" 


To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!



I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart for 
field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an illicit GPS 
tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me out of 
the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of inmportant 
data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any information on 
this object please call me ASAP.


http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone. 
Camping at my gate is futile.

Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] Check it out

2009-07-19 Thread Michael Blood
Please go HERE:

http://picasaweb.google.com/michaelblood7/UntitledAlbum?feat=email#


And whoever sent me this photo, please let me know who you are so I can
Give you credit.
Thanks, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Richard Kowalski

Just soem friendly advice to look at the pic Mike linked to before commenting.

:)

We joked with him last night at LPL that he had 50 tracking devices under his 
vehicle now...


--
Richard Kowalski
http://fullmoonphotography.net
IMCA #1081


--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Mr EMan  wrote:

> From: Mr EMan 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Michael Farmer" 
> 
> Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 6:30 PM
> 
> I ment to say this before  but this is IMCA business
> as formated and this is not the list for that
> discussion.  In fact the IMCA list is not for this
> discussion.  There are published procedures for filing
> a complaint against an IMCA member even if the complainer
> isn't a member.  Based on the rant I don't see that
> this likely falls under the perview of the IMCA.
> 
> Oh and for one that diss'd and downed the organization you
> sure do come running to them alot.
> 
> I am sorry for your distress, truly I am.  I know too
> well personally what it is to have a POS anger me.  All
> I can offer is the knowledge that you can choose to think
> about this in another way and it would not cause such a
> shock to your sensibilities.  Feel some joy in knowing
> it wasn't a warrantless device placed on your car by a
> scummy FBI agent that things rules are an inconvienance.
> 
> Enjoy your trip but I have to ask...
> " Did you pack your lugage yourself?"
> "Has anyone unknown to you had access to your luggage since
> you packed it?"
> 
> Elton
> 
> PS: anyone know what color Mike's Wife's airplane is? 
> Come on Mike it has some humor to it.  They wouldn't be
> doing this unless you were the front dog in the pack.
> 
> --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Michael Farmer 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Michael Farmer 
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my
> car!
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 12:51 PM
> > 
> > I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while
> preparing
> > to depart for field operations in southern Arizona,
> Greg
> > Hupe discovered an illicit GPS tracking device placed
> under
> > my car! Ruben, I know it was you! 
> > This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma
> may
> > keep me out of the field for a few days. Sadly this
> will
> > lead to the loss of inmportant data. 
> > Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with
> any
> > information on this object please call me ASAP.
> > 
> > http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG
> > 
> > My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into
> the
> > hot zone. Camping at my gate is futile. 
> > Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread michael cottingham

Dude,

I bet there are finger prints on it? I wonder who it might be?

I saw Carl buying one of those the other day at the Spy store on  
Broadway.


Very funny

Best Wishes

Michael



On Jul 19, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Michael Farmer wrote:



I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart  
for field operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an  
illicit GPS tracking device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it  
was you!
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me  
out of the field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of  
inmportant data.
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any  
information on this object please call me ASAP.


http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone.  
Camping at my gate is futile.

Michael Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Mr EMan

I ment to say this before  but this is IMCA business as formated and this is 
not the list for that discussion.  In fact the IMCA list is not for this 
discussion.  There are published procedures for filing a complaint against an 
IMCA member even if the complainer isn't a member.  Based on the rant I don't 
see that this likely falls under the perview of the IMCA.

Oh and for one that diss'd and downed the organization you sure do come running 
to them alot.

I am sorry for your distress, truly I am.  I know too well personally what it 
is to have a POS anger me.  All I can offer is the knowledge that you can 
choose to think about this in another way and it would not cause such a shock 
to your sensibilities.  Feel some joy in knowing it wasn't a warrantless device 
placed on your car by a scummy FBI agent that things rules are an inconvienance.

Enjoy your trip but I have to ask...
" Did you pack your lugage yourself?"
"Has anyone unknown to you had access to your luggage since you packed it?"

Elton

PS: anyone know what color Mike's Wife's airplane is?  Come on Mike it has some 
humor to it.  They wouldn't be doing this unless you were the front dog in the 
pack.

--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Michael Farmer  wrote:

> From: Michael Farmer 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 12:51 PM
> 
> I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing
> to depart for field operations in southern Arizona, Greg
> Hupe discovered an illicit GPS tracking device placed under
> my car! Ruben, I know it was you! 
> This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may
> keep me out of the field for a few days. Sadly this will
> lead to the loss of inmportant data. 
> Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any
> information on this object please call me ASAP.
> 
> http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG
> 
> My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the
> hot zone. Camping at my gate is futile. 
> Michael Farmer
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[meteorite-list] GPS Device located on my car!

2009-07-19 Thread Michael Farmer

I demand a full IMCA investigation. Today while preparing to depart for field 
operations in southern Arizona, Greg Hupe discovered an illicit GPS tracking 
device placed under my car! Ruben, I know it was you! 
This is an outrage, I feel so violated that the trauma may keep me out of the 
field for a few days. Sadly this will lead to the loss of inmportant data. 
Below is a photo of the object discovered. Anyone with any information on this 
object please call me ASAP.

http://meteoriteguy.com/ebayauctionstockphotos/tracker.JPG

My wife will now be dropping us from her airplane into the hot zone. Camping at 
my gate is futile. 
Michael Farmer
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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Images from todays LPL Apollo 11 40th Anniversary Event

2009-07-19 Thread cdtucson
A  post from Ruben Garcia.
Please check it out. 
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
IMCA 5829
Meteoritemax


> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:51:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Ruben Garcia 
> Subject: Images from todays LPL Apollo 11  40th Anniversary Event
> To: cdtuc...@cox.net
> 
> For anyone interested in a few images of todays event. BTW Some of the 
> pictures are large but most are small files.
http://www.mr-meteorite.net/lplapolloanniversary.htm
 Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
My Website: http://www.Mr-Meteorite.Net
My Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
My Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=meteorfright&p=v 










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[meteorite-list] LPL get together yesterday

2009-07-19 Thread Michael Farmer

I also want to thank everyone for attending and Dolores Hill for organizing 
such a great event. There were so many people, and the displays and talks were 
great, and it was an honor to meet so many people involved in the space program.
I was invited to show Lunar meteorites along with several other people, and the 
display was the single largest display of privately owned lunar meteorites ever 
seen in one place. 
thanks Dolores, it was lots of fun.

Michael Farmer
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[meteorite-list] AD -NR Auctions Ending - Imilac, Armanty, Mars .. Oh my

2009-07-19 Thread Rob Wesel

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/nakhladog_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ

Rob Wesel
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[meteorite-list] All these worlds...

2009-07-19 Thread Darren Garrison
New "black spot" on Jupiter-- possible large comet or asteroid impact like
Shoemaker-Levy 9's effects.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/19/new-black-spot-on-jupiter/

Or the beginning of stellification.
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Re: [meteorite-list] PHOTOS NEEDED - RSVP

2009-07-19 Thread Michael Blood
 Hi all,
I am in the final all nighters stages of finishing my book on
ASPECTS OF METEORITE ORITENTATION.
I am very dissappointed at the relatively few regmaglypted
Meteorite photos I have. I blew it and didn't get a photo of the fabulous
Regmaglypted nose cone in Mike Farmer's room a few Tucson Shows
Back (the owner passed on a $100K offer, just to let you know how fabulous
that puppy was)
And to this day I bemoan the fact I passed on a CHEAP totally regmaglypted
Oriented Millbillilly my first year of collecting "because I already have a
Nice Millbillilli and that one is all covered in that red mud." (!)
Anyway, anyone with an oriented meteorite with regmaglypting
(especially stones) your photos are desired - and of course, you
Will be given full credit (and we all know a stone becomes more valuable
When it is in print).
Photos would IDEALLY be 6 inches at the longest point and 300dpi.
If you don't know how to set the dpi, then the largest photo you can send
Me the better. Focus and lighting are, of course, key issues.
Please send as many photos as possible (digital photos are free),
but only one per email.
Any other special oriented specimens are welcome, but the
regmaglypted ones I really need.
The book is shaping up really nicely - but I do need a bunch of
Regmeglypted oriented specimens.
RSVP all.
Thanks, Michael  (OFF LIST, of course)


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[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay auctions ending soon, Sikhote-Alin stamp, mundrabilla & others.

2009-07-19 Thread Leigh Anne DelRay
Hi guys,
I gave up on the yahoo account. Yahoo never figure out what was going
on, and just permanently blocked the meteorite list as spam, for life.
I don't get it, and couldn't ever get a straight answer from them as
to why, hence the new e-mail address.
Thanks everyone for the tips on the g-mail account.

I just wanted to let everyone know that I have some auctions ending
tonight, and there are a couple cool meteorites in there,
And an absolutely awesome Sikhote-Alin Stamp and meteorite set:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260444008409

And a great little Mudrabilla can be seen here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260444026382

And a perfect bullet shaped oriented Taza is up for auction here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&item=260444019068

And a few other things, all of these are really small, perfect jewelry
size pieces.

Everything I have can be seen here:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/callistodesigns_W0QQQ5ftrkparmsZ65Q253A10Q257C66Q253A4Q257C39Q253A1QQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em14QQ_sopZ16QQ_scZ1


Thanks so much for looking and being supportive, I love the meteorite community!
-Leigh Anne
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[meteorite-list] Apollo - Steps on the Moon - Ostrava, CZ

2009-07-19 Thread Marcin Cimala

Hello
Yesterday I was in in Ostrava, Czech Republic on the presentation about 
Gemini and Apollo probrams. Here are some photos from this event and from 
very nice Observatory (mostly hehe).


http://www.polandmet.com/

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) kosmos
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]

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[meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FORSALE

2009-07-19 Thread steve arnold

Hi list.Just a quick plug.I have 5 meteorites forsale.All with free shipping
_
1. unclassified CV3 100 plus gram cut individual. $250
2.162 gram campo silicate endcut.  $175
3.Sikote-alin  201 grams   $150
4.Nwa 5547  L3 type 22 gram endcut $200
5.Nwa 2827   39 gram slice $100.
 Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! 


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] What got you into meteorites?

2009-07-19 Thread Greg Stanley

 
Greg/List:
 
How did I get into meteorites?
 
It perhaps started way back in the ‘70’s when a good friend of mine who was a 
mineral enthusiast got a job at the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History in 
Washington DC, and I remember him telling me that diamonds (carbon) had been 
found in iron meteorites; Wow… I thought that was very interesting.  It also 
was about the same time I was writing a research paper (for English class) on 
the theory that a large meteor crashed on earth, resulting in the extinction of 
the dinosaurs… very fun to write and I think I received an ‘A’.
 
Years later after many years of fossil and mineral collecting on the east 
coast, I began to read about meteorites and I remember seeing “The Meteorite 
Man,” Mr. Bob Haag on TV and in a few publications.  Later I moved to Austin, 
TX pursuing an engineering degree and began to do more research on how to buy 
meteorites - It was the early 1990’s and there were few dealers and I also was 
living on a limited income.  I do remember looking in the TX desert and I also 
looked for Tektites (never found any) throughout the ‘90’s.
  
Then in 1997, I was driving to California for a summer internship and I went to 
the Meteorite Crater in Arizona.  It was during this drive across the country, 
when I stopped at a roadside stand and bought a small ~25 gram Canyon Diablo 
meteorite; I still have it today.  The next year I bought a second Canyon 
Diablo, which is 225 grams.
 
After graduating from the University of Texas, I got a job in Bakersfield and 
began hunting the deserts there and found my first meteorite (a 15.8 gram 
chondrite) in 2006.  Since then I have found many more and I read about the 
different varieties of meteorites when ever I have free time.
 
I have collected fossils and minerals since I was a boy, but I think meteorites 
are so unique and out of this world, that they have become my primary focus of 
my mineral collection.
 
Everyone,
 
Enjoy Hunting and happy 40th anniversary (July 20th) of the Apollo 11 moon 
landing.
 
 
Greg S.

 

> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:24:06 -0700
> From: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] What got you into meteorites?
> 
> 
> Why am I into meteorites?
> 
> I started off as a sci fi fan, and a major Star Wars collector (AKA, a nerd)
> A friend of mine that owns a local rock and mineral store came across a 
> meteorite for me and I picked it up. 
> I then ventured onto the internet in search of information about it and 
> discovered I could buy Campo crystals rather cheap... I was using tumbled 
> earth rocks as a method to teach my daughter math and thought meteorites 
> would be a neat way to help her learn to do math.
> 
> The first person I bought from - Bob C. was really nice and I ended up buying 
> alot of Campo individuals, a really nice half gram martian from him and other 
> really nice meteorites - from there, my collection suddenly took on a life of 
> its own. 
> 
> When I purchased my first Lunar (Dhofar 910) from Adam Hupe, I quickly saw 
> that for me to grow my collection like I wanted (Im not that big into micros) 
> I would need to buy in bulk to get better prices. I started searching around 
> to see who could give me good deals for buying in bulk... In turn I went 
> around to local shops such as comic book and rock/mineral stores and shows 
> trying to sell the extra material.
> 
> For me, meteorites were/are not really a money thing, but a way that allows 
> me to offer a method of teaching that is "neat" for my daughter and also 
> allows me to actually touch, smell and better understand space, where we came 
> from and where we are going. What is more cool then holding a piece of the 
> moon? 
> 
> We always see sensational hollywood movies such as Armageddon, Deep Impact 
> etc... Meteorites allow us to actually hold what the blockbuster movies are 
> all about - Meteorites!
> 
> In the 3 years we have been involved with this "hobby" my daughter has now 
> expressed a major interest in being a "meteorite scientist" when she grows 
> up! 
> At 7 years old, she can tell you what makes achondrites and chondrites 
> different, she can go into detail about Irons and Pallasites and alot of 
> other really cool stuff I wish I would have known at 7 years old.
> She is now also a collector also.
> 
> So, while meteorites for us started off simply as a way to teach math to my 
> little girl, we both have since learned a great deal and they have given me 
> and her valuable time together doing something we both enjoy.
> 
> Thats what got us into meteorites - a simple gift and a thought of a neat 
> teaching tool!
> 
> Greg C.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting ethics

2009-07-19 Thread Grant Elliott

Darren,

I was unfortunately drinking coffee when I read this, which resulted in a
tad bit of cleanup after I got myself under control.
The "Animal Kingdom" word picture was just too much for me.
Thank You for the light moment-

Grant Elliott



- Original Message - 
From: "Darren Garrison" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting ethics


True story:
I once shot Mike Farmer with a tranquilizer dart and fitted
him with  a radio collar. 
Unfortunately the battery died before the next fall. 
But it was worth it to see him rubbing against trees in the vain attempt to
dislodge the collar! 
Poor confused creature...

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[meteorite-list] Tom Wolf Bridge To The Stars

2009-07-19 Thread Phil Whitmer

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/opinion/19wolfe.html


The day the space race died.


Phil Whitmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] LPL Apollo 11 Anniversary Event and Meteorite People

2009-07-19 Thread Richard Kowalski

As an LPLer who was not involved with the planning or execution of this event, 
I think those who did should be congratulated for the fine celebration that was 
held in the LPL atrium yesterday. I know I had a great time as did the hundreds 
and hundreds of our guests.

A special thanks to those involved in the meteorite displays. They deserve 
another thank you too for making the event a hit.

The display of sixteen(!) different lunar meteorites was fantastic and made 
this event more special!

(In no particular order, and sorry if I miss anyone)

Mike Farmer
Geoff Notkin
Robert Ward
Shauna Russell
Greg Hupe

along with their friends and assistants all deserve thanks. While it was about 
the Apollo 11 anniversary, the end of the atrium holding the meteorites was 
nearly always packed with people, especially children. Geoff was giving away 
posters and to a limited number of early arrivers, actual meteorites. I wonder 
how many new collectors the efforts of all the participants generated 
yesterday? I'm sure quiet a few!

You all deserve thanks.

I saw but didn't get a chance to say hello to Jack Schrader, Rubin Garcia and 
Marvin Kilgore. Again, sorry if I missed anyone else who was there.

Finally a special thanks goes to Dolores Hill.
She is sometimes too humble and will never stand up and take a bow, but she 
certainly deserves some public praise. She tirelessly explained everything 
meteorite to the kids, both little and big. One couldn't help but notice all of 
the young girls at her table that were excited by meteorites.

When we left just after 8pm, Dolores was still going string, even though she 
had been up and going full speed since 6am on nothing more than a bagel and 
water.

She is a jewel in the field of meteoritics; One that all too often goes under 
appreciated. This field is lucky to have her.

--
Richard Kowalski


  
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - July 19, 2009

2009-07-19 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/July_19_2009.html

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite hunting ethics

2009-07-19 Thread Rob Matson
Hi All,

Joe writes:

> There is nothing "illegal" about the way Carl found it...

I didn't say there was. My post was more about ethics and
hypothetical situations.

> Just cuz somebody makes the first find, no matter who it is
> does not own the strewnfield, not by any means, unless it
> is on his property.

Irrelevant to the discussion. Did I ever say anywhere in my post
that Jack has exclusive rights to his discovery location?  No.

> ...just cuz it is in AZ they feel the need to sccop it all
> up for themselves, thats not right...

Jack has never said anything of the sort; and Mike has already
pointed out that if you found the fall location *independently*,
then you would have just as much right to be there as they do
(assuming it didn't violate existing arrangements with any
property owners).

> I see it as selfish...

I see it as SMART. Frankly, I would rather have scientifically-
minded people helping to recover a new fall because they actually
care about science, not because of fame or profit.

> Who is to say Carl will not get GPS coordinance and in situ
> photo?

If he finds anything, perhaps he will. Indeed, I hope he would.

> After the way Jack, Mike and the other acted, I would
> not give them any info on my finds, they are not doing the
> same for anyone else.

If this is really how you feel, I can't say I'd be very interested
in enlisting your help to recover a new fall. For the scientists,
this isn't a game. It isn't about money, or petty jealousies. It's
about quality scientific data. Every meteorite that is recovered
"improperly" is a lost data point. If I was in Jack's shoes (which
to some degree, I am) I would feel no obligation whatsoever to share
my hard-earned results with anyone until I was damned good and ready.

> This fall just shows the true colors of some of the hunters.

Quite so.

> Like you said, when Jack invited Farmer he knew there was a chance
> that somebody may find the strewnfield cuz he is so high profile.
> He took that chance and it happened.

Maybe it happened, maybe it didn't. You only have Carl's say-so at this
point. As far as I know, he doesn't have any meteorites as evidence
to back up the claim.

> Carl did not put a beacon on Mikes Car.

Did I say he did? No. My hyperbole was meant to show how various
levels of "cheating" were different only in magnitude, not flavor.
They're all unethical to varying degrees.

To summarize:

1.  You don't have a right to know what Jack figured out.
2.  Jack doesn't have a right to prevent you from figuring out what
he did -- by your own scientific means.
3.  If you aren't yet clever enough to do #2, then educate yourself
so that you can. It's really not rocket science.

--Rob

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