[meteorite-list] Rob Elliott meteorite collection auction
Just a heads-up: long-lost listee and warm-beer-drinker Rob Elliott wanted list members to know that his extensive collection will be on the auction block in about two weeks. Details below. Gregory __ The Robert Elliott Meteorite Collection will be auctioned on 18th August and hosted by Scotland's oldest firm of auctioneers, Lyon Turnbull in Edinburgh. Time allows for 170 Lots, containing some familiar and some not-so-familiar meteorite specimens, all acquired by myself during my travels to museums around the world, and from many researchers scientists directly. My meteorite collecting passion was mostly for the so-called historical meteorites, so feel free to take a look through the sales catalogue, either hard copy or online, and see what takes your fancy. Or just enjoy the pictures! I know that several of you are jumping on a plane and coming to Edinburgh to bid in the saleroom, but for those that cannot attend the auction in person, it's still possible to bid live and in real-time (see links below). Bids may also be placed in advance on the website, or by telephone and in writing. If you're planning to bid over the internet, be sure to register first. Here are the direct links to the sales catalogue (Sale no: 262), the live bidding site, and for those that need it, packing and shipping assistance. Auction Hosts - Lyon Turnbull, Edinburgh. Online Catalogue: www.lyonandturnbull.com/asp/searchresults.asp?pg=1ps=25st=Dsale_no=262 Email for catalogue requests and auction information: i...@lyonandturnbull.com Live, Real-time bidding hosts - Artfact www.artfact.com/catalog/searchLots.cfm?scp=ccatalogRef=HSM8GI7QBD America's oldest auction house, Freeman's of Philadelphia will also feature the auction. Visit www.freemansauction.com and look under Auctions. Packing and shipping assistance is available from Mailboxes Etc. Website: www.mbe.co.uk Email: i...@mbesouthbridge.co.uk If you'd prefer a glossy, printed copy of the sales catalogue, these are available by request from Lyon Turnbull. Email address: i...@lyonandturnbull.com For more information and phone numbers, please visit their website at: www.lyonandturnbull.com Best wishes, Rob Elliott www.meteorites.uk.com Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Telephone: 01592-751563 Mobile: 07880-888660 International Tel: +44-1592-751563 Email: fernl...@aol.com PC # 1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Looking for Scottish meteorite collectors - pleasecontact me offlist
Mike Apart from myself and Rob McCafferty, who is also on the list, there are a few others. If you want I will contact you off-list with these names. Before I do, I will contact them and see if they are willing to have their names forwarded. Best Wishes from sunny Scotland (yes we do get Sun!) Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre National Museums Scotland 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Phone: +44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk www.nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Galactic Stone Ironworks Sent: 25 July 2009 04:52 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Looking for Scottish meteorite collectors - pleasecontact me offlist Hi List, I am looking for List members who : 1) are living in Scotland 2) have family or friends living in Scotland 3) have family ties or ancestry in Scotland 4) have some affinity for Scotland If this describes you and you collect meteorites, please contact me offlist. This is in reference to an upcoming donation I am arranging. Best regards and clear skies, MikeG -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Personal Site - http://www.glassthrower.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Free Fringe music. Celebrate Homecoming at the National Museum of Scotland 8-30 August. www.nms.ac.uk/music National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rob Elliott meteorite collection auction
Just a heads-up: long-lost listee and warm-beer-drinker Rob Elliott wanted list members to know that his extensive collection will be on the auction block in about two weeks. Details below. Gregory __ The Robert Elliott Meteorite Collection will be auctioned on 18th August and hosted by Scotland's oldest firm of auctioneers, Lyon Turnbull in Edinburgh. Time allows for 170 Lots, containing some familiar and some not-so-familiar meteorite specimens, all acquired by myself during my travels to museums around the world, and from many researchers scientists directly. My meteorite collecting passion was mostly for the so-called historical meteorites, so feel free to take a look through the sales catalogue, either hard copy or online, and see what takes your fancy. Or just enjoy the pictures! I know that several of you are jumping on a plane and coming to Edinburgh to bid in the saleroom, but for those that cannot attend the auction in person, it's still possible to bid live and in real-time (see links below). Bids may also be placed in advance on the website, or by telephone and in writing. If you're planning to bid over the internet, be sure to register first. Here are the direct links to the sales catalogue (Sale no: 262), the live bidding site, and for those that need it, packing and shipping assistance. Auction Hosts - Lyon Turnbull, Edinburgh. Online Catalogue: www.lyonandturnbull.com/asp/searchresults.asp?pg=1ps=25st=Dsale_no=262 Email for catalogue requests and auction information: i...@lyonandturnbull.com Live, Real-time bidding hosts - Artfact www.artfact.com/catalog/searchLots.cfm?scp=ccatalogRef=HSM8GI7QBD America's oldest auction house, Freeman's of Philadelphia will also feature the auction. Visit www.freemansauction.com and look under Auctions. Packing and shipping assistance is available from Mailboxes Etc. Website: www.mbe.co.uk Email: i...@mbesouthbridge.co.uk If you'd prefer a glossy, printed copy of the sales catalogue, these are available by request from Lyon Turnbull. Email address: i...@lyonandturnbull.com For more information and phone numbers, please visit their website at: www.lyonandturnbull.com Best wishes, Rob Elliott www.meteorites.uk.com Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Telephone: 01592-751563 Mobile: 07880-888660 International Tel: +44-1592-751563 Email: fernl...@aol.com PC # 1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] thanks to all involved
Good morning list. Its no jive,today I hit 55. Well anyway I want to thank all who chimed in for my last freebie session. All 20 pieces are gone. I also want to thank brett whitenack for sending me valuable nininger info,plus a free copy of the huss meteorite handbook of meteorites. It is very nice reading. I also want to thank greg catterton for sending me a freebie as well. I look forward to it. Now for myself,I am getting something I have never had,a TATTOO.Sort of a wild thing,thing. Stay tuned and have a great day. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Paper About proposed Impact Basin in Wilkes Land, Antarctica
Dear friends, I came across a new paper about the proposed 300 km in diameter impact crater in Wilkes Land, Antarctica. It is: von Frese, R. R. B., L. V. Potts, S. B. Wells, T. E. Leftwich, H. R. Kim, J. W. Kim, A. V. Golynsky, O. Hernandez, and L. R. Gaya-Piqué (2009), GRACE gravity evidence for an impact basin in Wilkes Land, Antarctica, Geochemistry Geophysics Geosystems, 10, Q02014, doi:10.1029/2008GC002149. http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008GC002149.shtml Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Free PDF File of Paper About Proposed Wilkes Land, Antarctica, Impact Crater
Dear friends, In a previous message I wrote: I came across a new paper about the proposed 300 km in diameter impact crater in Wilkes Land, Antarctica. It is: von Frese, R. R. B., L. V. Potts, S. B. Wells, T. E. Leftwich, H. R. Kim, J. W. Kim, A. V. Golynsky, O. Hernandez, and L. R. Gaya-Piqué (2009), GRACE gravity evidence for an impact basin in Wilkes Land, Antarctica, Geochemistry Geophysics Geosystems, 10, Q02014, doi:10.1029/2008GC002149. http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2009/2008GC002149.shtml While doing additional googling, I came across an URL where the PDF file for this paper can be found. The PDF file for this paper can be downloaded for free from: http://www.geology.osu.edu/~vonfrese/general/WLIB_gcubed09.pdf Yours, Paul H. Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT - For Mal Bishop
Sorry Mal, I'm receiving all your emails. But my ones, no matter from which of my accounts I send, aren't coming through. Is a problem with your lowcountry server: connection to mail exchanger failed No worries, Everything perfect. I hope to send the rest on Friday. Best! Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] thanks to all involved
Hi Steve, Happy Birthday ! Sonny -Original Message- From: steve arnold stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, Aug 5, 2009 4:38 am Subject: [meteorite-list] thanks to all involved Good morning list. Its no jive,today I hit 55. Well anyway I want to thank all who chimed in for my last freebie session. All 20 pieces are gone. I also want to thank brett whitenack for sending me valuable nininger info,plus a free copy of the huss meteorite handbook of meteorites. It is very nice reading. I also want to thank greg catterton for sending me a freebie as well. I look forward to it. Now for myself,I am getting something I have never had,a TATTOO.Sort of a wild thing,thing. Stay tuned and have a great day. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Update: Stolen meteorite shipment
I'm glad to see you had an acceptable resolution to your problem. Many people are not as fortunate as you and end up taking the entire loss themselves. Maria Haas is one of those people who work behind the scene at solving issues very effectively. The next time someone complains about the IMCA, remind them of this incident. Best, John Gwilliam At 07:41 PM 8/4/2009, Gary Fujihara wrote: Aloha, Since my original post on this subject June 1, a lot has transpired and I thought it in the best interest of the parties involved, as well as the members of this list to know (as the late Paul Harvey would say) The rest of the story. The meteorites I had purchased were won on ebay in a bulk auction that took about 3 hours to run. I paid for the items, and they were shipped out of South America soon after. When the package arrived, I eagerly went to the post office to claim my treasure. After the discovery of the theft of my meteorites in shipment (I received an empty box from the post office), I staggered home in disbelief. I emailed the seller notifying him of the disaster, but did not hear from him in a couple of days. At this point I was not a happy camper and filed a grievance with IMCA, a claim with eBay and Paypal, and wrote my email to the list. The seller responded to my emails, was empathetic and offered to assist on his end by filing a claim at his post office, and suggested I do the same at my post office. I returned the next day to file a claim at the USPS. Meanwhile Maria Haas, representing IMCA, responded almost immediately by contacting both the seller and me separately first to gather information from each other's respective viewpoint. She extracted the facts and shared with me the IMCA code of ethics and the issues of insurance, customs, taxes and other things that which I was not aware (but were reiterated by list members in response to my email). She then took steps to mediate the situation in as tactful a manner possible. At some point, the seller offered to share the loss with me, and agreed to refund me half of my payment if I would drop my claim with Paypal (which was withholding my payment to him until resolution). I dropped the claim, the seller reimbursed half my loss and the rest, as they say, is history...but wait, there's more. Since then, I have become a member of the IMCA. Not to become a big dealer, but to establish and uphold a modicum of the integrity and honor that was demonstrated to me by the characters in this story, themselves upstanding members of the IMCA. I have learned a lot from them and other IMCA members and dealers, and am dedicated to extending and perpetuating those values to the current and next generation of meteorite enthusiast. BTW, the seller (as many of you can guess) is Eduardo Jawerbaum, and I am a happy winner and recipient of some of the meteorites he had on auction a couple of weeks ago! Yes, I bought some more meteorites from the same person in the same country and postal system from which my previous shipment was stolen. Slow learner? Repeat offender? Obsessed collector? Maybe a little of all, but I must tell you that I am happy to continue to be a customer of Eduardo, and the proud owner of the freshest Franconia you've ever seen. Mahalo Eduardo ... Peace and poi. Gary Fujihara AstroDay Institute 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161, fuj...@mac.com http://astroday.net __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list John Gwilliam Too many people were born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rob Elliott meteorite collection auction
Why do these auctions always come up when I am stretched too thin already!??!? LOL On 8/5/09, J. Gregory Wilson jgrego...@gmail.com wrote: Just a heads-up: long-lost listee and warm-beer-drinker Rob Elliott wanted list members to know that his extensive collection will be on the auction block in about two weeks. Details below. Gregory __ The Robert Elliott Meteorite Collection will be auctioned on 18th August and hosted by Scotland's oldest firm of auctioneers, Lyon Turnbull in Edinburgh. Time allows for 170 Lots, containing some familiar and some not-so-familiar meteorite specimens, all acquired by myself during my travels to museums around the world, and from many researchers scientists directly. My meteorite collecting passion was mostly for the so-called historical meteorites, so feel free to take a look through the sales catalogue, either hard copy or online, and see what takes your fancy. Or just enjoy the pictures! I know that several of you are jumping on a plane and coming to Edinburgh to bid in the saleroom, but for those that cannot attend the auction in person, it's still possible to bid live and in real-time (see links below). Bids may also be placed in advance on the website, or by telephone and in writing. If you're planning to bid over the internet, be sure to register first. Here are the direct links to the sales catalogue (Sale no: 262), the live bidding site, and for those that need it, packing and shipping assistance. Auction Hosts - Lyon Turnbull, Edinburgh. Online Catalogue: www.lyonandturnbull.com/asp/searchresults.asp?pg=1ps=25st=Dsale_no=262 Email for catalogue requests and auction information: i...@lyonandturnbull.com Live, Real-time bidding hosts - Artfact www.artfact.com/catalog/searchLots.cfm?scp=ccatalogRef=HSM8GI7QBD America's oldest auction house, Freeman's of Philadelphia will also feature the auction. Visit www.freemansauction.com and look under Auctions. Packing and shipping assistance is available from Mailboxes Etc. Website: www.mbe.co.uk Email: i...@mbesouthbridge.co.uk If you'd prefer a glossy, printed copy of the sales catalogue, these are available by request from Lyon Turnbull. Email address: i...@lyonandturnbull.com For more information and phone numbers, please visit their website at: www.lyonandturnbull.com Best wishes, Rob Elliott www.meteorites.uk.com Fernlea Meteorites, The Wynd, Off Dickson Lane, Milton of Balgonie, Fife. KY7 6PY United Kingdom Telephone: 01592-751563 Mobile: 07880-888660 International Tel: +44-1592-751563 Email: fernl...@aol.com PC # 1 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Personal Site - http://www.glassthrower.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I cameacrossonebay
Don´t think so! hehe. Cer*n*uda is a common surname: http://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Especial%3ABuscarsearch=cernudafulltext=Buscar And no idea about who Ceruda is. Best, Paco Ocaña Martin Altmann escribió: Maybe Olalla Cernuda ? http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/06/27/ciencia/1182931659.html http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2005/11/29/ciencia/1133258125.html -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Mark Grossman Gesendet: Mittwoch, 5. August 2009 03:51 An: Jason Utas; Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I cameacrossonebay Hi Jason, No, I decided not to bid after all. When it was 99 cents, that was on thing. But if my memory serves me correctly, last time I checked it was about $22. But has anyone heard of a Spanish collector named Ceruda? Sounds like the beginning of some suspense movie! Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came acrossonebay Hello Mark, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the fellow already knew - I've sent such messages before, only to meet a stone wall of silence, or a vehement denial of the facts from a mineral dealer who knows less than they think they do about rocks from space. That said, it could well be an honest mistake. There's no telling. It's worth a shot I suppose, but if I'm not mistaken, the auction closes in about a minute, so it's a bit late for that. Another one bites the dust... Regards, Jason On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Mark Grossmanmar...@westnet.com wrote: Hi Jason, Thanks for the info. Looks like you're right. I checked Rocks from Space, and color plate IV has a picture of a Toluca specimen with a closeup of ferric hydroxide and hydrochloric acid exuding from between the Widmanstatten plates. And it looks like some of those brown crossed lines on the ebay sample. So what should I do - inform the ebay seller that he has a sick patient on his hands that he is trying to unload? :) Thanks again. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com To: Kashuba mary.kash...@verizon.net; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came acrosson ebay Hello Mark, All, Those squiggly lines are what Nininger coined lawrencite, a corrosive disease that occurs primarily in the presence of terrestrial salts. While the term is fairly well-recognized, it generally applies to meteorites which experience accelerated oxidation even years after having been found, having spent long periods of time in unfavorable climates. The slice does indeed look like Toluca, and it might be a fine specimen if refinished, but good luck with preserving it - maybe Bill Mason might have a word on this. That said, there are no troilite inclusions visible in the slice. Regards, Jason On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Kashubamary.kash...@verizon.net wrote: Mark, List, It looks to me like an etched iron meteorite slice that has been clear coated and is rusting. Corrosion will boil up and worm its way around under coatings. Some Toluca have prominent troilite. None is obvious in this slice but it still could very well be a Toluca. Maybe someone read a description somewhere that mentioned troilite, saw the Widmanstätten pattern and figured that is what the crossed lines are. You might pick it up cheap, refinish it and pray. Regards, - John John Kashuba Ontario, California -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mark Grossman Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:37 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Toluca Sample that I came across on ebay Would be interested on any comments on this Toluca sample that I came across on ebay. According to the seller, the sample was purchased from a collector in Spain named Ceruda and the troilite is the crossed lines on the specimen. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180387460024ssPageName=S TRK:MEWAX:IT Thanks. Mark Grossman __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list
[meteorite-list] Bajada del Diablo impact crater-strewn field: Largest in South America
Acevedo, R. D., J. F. Ponce, M. Rocca, J. Rabassa,and H. Corbella, 2009, Bajada del Diablo impact crater-strewn field: The largest crater field in the Southern Hemisphere. Geomorphology. vol. 110, no. 3-4, pp. 58-67. http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.geomorph.2009.03.026 http://www.science-direct.com/science/journal/0169555X Filu-Có plateau: the major impact crater field of Bajada del Diablo strewnfield, Argentine Patagonia http://www.conicet.gov.ar/scp/vista_resumen.php?produccion=273465id=1907keywords= http://www.conicet.gov.ar/scp/vista_resumen.php?produccion=273465id=1907keywords=printable=1 Yours, Paul __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] thanks to all involved
Hi Steve, Happy 55th to you! Here's hoping that it will be an enjoyable day for you, Steve. Best wishes, Greg Lindh Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 04:38:41 -0700 From: stevenarnold60...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] thanks to all involved Good morning list. Its no jive,today I hit 55. Well anyway I want to thank all who chimed in for my last freebie session. All 20 pieces are gone. I also want to thank brett whitenack for sending me valuable nininger info,plus a free copy of the huss meteorite handbook of meteorites. It is very nice reading. I also want to thank greg catterton for sending me a freebie as well. I look forward to it. Now for myself,I am getting something I have never had,a TATTOO.Sort of a wild thing,thing. Stay tuned and have a great day. Steve R. Arnold, Chicago!! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SPAM from In Depth Friends Page
Hi all, I have been alerted by at least 3 people that a Spam mailing, specifically citing my IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE (kindly hosted by that king of Web pages, Paul Harris his partner in crime, The ingenious Jim Tobin) First: this particular spam actually cited my Page as their source - I assume to gain a sense of honesty or affiliation. I can think of no other reason (unless I get really paranoid and start suspecting someone Is ticked at me and wants to taint my endeavors - seams Highly unlikely) Second: one must realize spammers have a wide Arsenal of methods of getting email addresses. Spam Is the dog poop on the lawn - yet we all continue to Have lawns (except that clever devil, Geoff Notkin, Who has sand and cactus). Those that want to remove their email address From their IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE, go for it - You can edit it out just as you edited in any and all Information there. HOWEVER, that will be a drop In the bucket, as spamming bastards, as I said, will Get your email address so many ways it would blow Your mind - it starts when you GET an email address, Expands when you email ANYONE, visit ANY net Site, order anything on the net, receive email, etc. Every conceivable method one could think of (and MANY one would not think of) is used. I would be amazed if there is not an ebook available For spammers! Anyway, the point is, if you want to edit out your email Address you can do so just as you put it in but the effect On the amount of spam you receive will likely be unnoticeable. Sorry this is how it is. Best wishes, Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SPAM from In Depth Friends Page
Hi Michael, I received a spam response from the friends page as well. But, I get so much spam anyway (from the web in general, not your site), that it didn't bug me. I just deleted it. It was the typical Nigerian type scam involving millions of dollars, bank transfers, etc. Who falls for that stuff anyway? Best regards, MikeG On 8/5/09, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Hi all, I have been alerted by at least 3 people that a Spam mailing, specifically citing my IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE (kindly hosted by that king of Web pages, Paul Harris his partner in crime, The ingenious Jim Tobin) First: this particular spam actually cited my Page as their source - I assume to gain a sense of honesty or affiliation. I can think of no other reason (unless I get really paranoid and start suspecting someone Is ticked at me and wants to taint my endeavors - seams Highly unlikely) Second: one must realize spammers have a wide Arsenal of methods of getting email addresses. Spam Is the dog poop on the lawn - yet we all continue to Have lawns (except that clever devil, Geoff Notkin, Who has sand and cactus). Those that want to remove their email address From their IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE, go for it - You can edit it out just as you edited in any and all Information there. HOWEVER, that will be a drop In the bucket, as spamming bastards, as I said, will Get your email address so many ways it would blow Your mind - it starts when you GET an email address, Expands when you email ANYONE, visit ANY net Site, order anything on the net, receive email, etc. Every conceivable method one could think of (and MANY one would not think of) is used. I would be amazed if there is not an ebook available For spammers! Anyway, the point is, if you want to edit out your email Address you can do so just as you put it in but the effect On the amount of spam you receive will likely be unnoticeable. Sorry this is how it is. Best wishes, Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Personal Site - http://www.glassthrower.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Curiosity Rover Assembled as Cost Impacts Debated (MSL)
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0908/05msl/ Curiosity rover assembled as cost impacts debated BY CRAIG COVAULT SPACEFLIGHT NOW August 5, 2009 Assembly and test of the Mars Science Laboratory rover, and its Sky Crane descent stage, are accelerating at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. toward launch on an Atlas 5 from Cape Canaveral in October or November 2011. Cutting edge technology for MSL is springing to life as the flight rover and descent stage mature in JPL clean rooms. The MSL rover, the size of an Earthly wide-track all terrain vehicle, will be lowered on a bridal from the highly maneuverable Sky Crane Mars Descent Stage. The descent stage will be hovered at 50 ft. altitude on its 8 rocket engines until the rover wheels are on the ground and the umbilical severed. (See Descent System image below). The Sky Crane contraption looks like its out of a Star Trek movie. Once free of the rover it will zoom off at low level and full throttle until it runs out of fuel and crashes far from planned roving targets. Developing such cutting edge hardware has brought technology delays and a much steeper price than envisioned. The MSL cost growth is also slowing the development of all other NASA planetary programs and will delay by 2-4 years all other Mars programs coming after MSL, including a Mars sample return now envisioned for the 2020s. The cost and hardware problems also forced an MSL launch slip from 2009 to 2011. And it also caused a management shakeup in the organization. Richard Cook who initially led the program has been moved down to deputy manager, while Pete Theisinger has been convinced to return to lead the MSL program He earlier led the Spirit and Opportunity programs. At this point two years before launch, the MSL program is also preparing two major cost updates for top NASA management and Congress about MSL cost overruns and development difficulties. This is occurring at the same time NASA and the European Space Agency have joined forces for Mars planning focused on Europe's plan to launch its own ExoMars rover (pictured below). ExoMars was originally scheduled to lift off for Mars on an Ariane 5 in 2011, but its launch has now been postponed a total of 7 years to 2018. The first MSL review is due this summer and called a breach report that will cite to Congress how the program has breached its earlier funding plan. MSL is burdened with a $1.68 billion (68%) development overrun and prospects for the need of an additional $115 million to finish the program. An even more critical review will be the flight's readiness to proceed review set for November where JPL and the space agency will update progress toward solving major actuator, avionics and power system problems being tackled this summer. The power system situation is relatively new. To solve the problem with the actuators, the program went to a different lubricant. But the new lubricant requires more heating during cold Martian nights, a situation that uses up the capability of the RTG with decaying Plutonium 238. The RTG will be mounted on the back of the rover between the large fin like structures visible in this image of the flight rover. The rover is equipped with its flight-sized wheels enabling the large scale of the vehicle to be seen. The rover's Sample Analysis (SAM) handling equipment being developed at the Goddard Space Flight Center has also fallen behind. But testing indicates almost double energy requirements will be needed to conduct SAM sample analysis scenarios. According to a mid July NASA Advisory Council Report the Rover Power System design does not meet present mission requirements, requiring the rover to need additional battery capacity and possibly addition of a solar array in addition to its nuclear power system. The electrical issue could be a significant new cost driver as the solar array/nuclear system tradeoff was one of the most important design tradeoffs when the program got started. Now the assessment has changed to raise the possibility that MSL may need both a solar array and nuclear generator. The maturity of the rover and Sky Crane design at JPL is illustrated by examining the engineering detail of the Sky Crane, as the 4,565 lb. carrier is viewed from above with the rover tucked into its bomb bay below. All of the red boxed areas are delicate red rocket nozzles mounted on four arms to provide descent thrust after separation of a 50 ft. parachute and aeroshell. With twin rocked engines firing on all four corners, the vehicle can maneuver to a precise location throttle down into a hover at 50 ft. (15 meter) altitude then lower the rover to the ground. To lower the rover, an umbilical line will be unraveled from the gold cone shaped device mounted in the center of the Sky Crane's belly. The component (shown below) is essential for mission success. JPL has also begun separation tests of the rover from the Sky Crane. Such tests are being done manually in a JPL clean
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - August 5, 2009
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES August 5, 2009 o Light-Toned Rock and Scarps http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009523_2165 o Stratigraphy Exposed in Crater Wall http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009470_1965 o Multiple Slip Face Dunes http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009394_2565 o Blocky Floor Deposit in Melas Chasma http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009381_1720 o Small Cavi and Contact Relationships http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_009357_2655 o Small Impact Crater in Cerberus Palus http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_013368_1885 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar Crater Stats Indicate Hidden Population of Asteroids
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/23878/ Lunar Crater Stats Indicate Hidden Population of Asteroids Technology Review August 3, 2009 The asymmetric distribution of craters on the Moon may have been caused by an undiscovered population of near Earth asteroids Many moons are locked in synchronous rotation with their mother planets. Examples include the Galilean moons of Jupiter, Neptune's moon Triton and our own Moon. In the 80s and 90s astronomers noticed that the distribution of craters on these objects was asymmetric: they were more heavily cratered on their leading hemispheres which makes sense since it seems obvious that these areas should be struck more often. It wasn't until 2003, however, that the same asymmetric crater distribution was measured on our Moon. Now Takashi Ito at the National Astronomical Observatory in Japan and Renu Malhotra at the University of Arizona have asked an interesting question. of the data. Can the asymmetric distribution of craters on the Moon be explained by the known distribution of near Earth asteroids that are thought to have caused them? Their answer is a cautious no. To properly explain the crater distribution, Ito and Malhotra say some other factor must have been involved. One possibility is that we simply haven't seen all the craters yet: the ongoing lunar mapping missions may help on that score. Another idea is that the Earth's tidal forces tear Earth-crossing asteroids apart, creating a higher number of impacts than might otherwise be expected. But the most exciting and potentially worrying possibility is that there exists a previously unseen population of near Earth asteroids that orbit the Sun at approximately the same distance as the Earth. These have gone unnoticed because they are smaller or darker than other asteroids, say Ito and Malhotra. More complete observational surveys of the near-Earth asteroids can test our prediction, they say. And let's not waste too much time about it. By some reckonings, asteroid impacts represent the greatest threat to humankind that we are able to calculate. Ref: arxiv.org/abs/0907.3010 http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.3010: Asymmetric Impacts of Near-Earth Asteroids on The Moon __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Perseid Meteor Outburst
Space Weather News for Aug. 4, 2009 http://spaceweather.com POSSIBLE PERSEID METEOR OUTBURST: This year's Perseid meteor shower could be even better than usual. According to NASA's Meteoroid Environment Office, a filament of comet dust has drifted across Earth's path and when Earth passes through it, sometime between 0800 and 0900 UT (1 - 2 am PDT) on August 12th, the Perseid meteor rate could surge to twice its normal value. Check http://spaceweather.com for details and observing tips. PERSEIDS ON YOUR iPHONE: Spaceweather.com is pleased to announce a new iPhone/iPod application dedicated to the upcoming Perseid meteor shower. It features a Perseid countdown clock, news alerts, an easy-to-use sky map, and a live gallery of photos from around the world. Sky watchers of all types will find it a valuable companion when the shower peaks later this month. Learn more: http://spaceweather.com/perseids Download the app: http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=325305245mt=8 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SPAM from In Depth Friends Page
Hi, Mike, List, Who falls for that stuff anyway? Advance Fee Frauds, or 419 scams, collect in excess of half a billion US dollars a year worldwide, of which at least $80 million a year comes frome the US. The Champion US Sucker is an Oregon woman who lose over $400,000 in 2008. Victims have been kidnapped for ransom, murdered, and sometimes turned into criminals themselves. Read all about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_fraud Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SPAM from In Depth Friends Page Hi Michael, I received a spam response from the friends page as well. But, I get so much spam anyway (from the web in general, not your site), that it didn't bug me. I just deleted it. It was the typical Nigerian type scam involving millions of dollars, bank transfers, etc. Who falls for that stuff anyway? Best regards, MikeG On 8/5/09, Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net wrote: Hi all, I have been alerted by at least 3 people that a Spam mailing, specifically citing my IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE (kindly hosted by that king of Web pages, Paul Harris his partner in crime, The ingenious Jim Tobin) First: this particular spam actually cited my Page as their source - I assume to gain a sense of honesty or affiliation. I can think of no other reason (unless I get really paranoid and start suspecting someone Is ticked at me and wants to taint my endeavors - seams Highly unlikely) Second: one must realize spammers have a wide Arsenal of methods of getting email addresses. Spam Is the dog poop on the lawn - yet we all continue to Have lawns (except that clever devil, Geoff Notkin, Who has sand and cactus). Those that want to remove their email address From their IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE, go for it - You can edit it out just as you edited in any and all Information there. HOWEVER, that will be a drop In the bucket, as spamming bastards, as I said, will Get your email address so many ways it would blow Your mind - it starts when you GET an email address, Expands when you email ANYONE, visit ANY net Site, order anything on the net, receive email, etc. Every conceivable method one could think of (and MANY one would not think of) is used. I would be amazed if there is not an ebook available For spammers! Anyway, the point is, if you want to edit out your email Address you can do so just as you put it in but the effect On the amount of spam you receive will likely be unnoticeable. Sorry this is how it is. Best wishes, Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Personal Site - http://www.glassthrower.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Friends Up
Hi all, You can now see the luminous visages of Gary Fujihara Greg Stanley at: http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/MeteoriteFriends.html Best wishes, Michael PS: On this page no other information than Photo and name (alphabetical by first name to make it Easy to look and see to whom on the list you are writing Or who is posting). PPS: For DETAILED info - up to 5 or 6 photos, URL addresses, A personal Bio. One's email address, or whatever YOU CHOOSE can be reached by going to the URL above and There is a link - then you can edit whatever you want to Post to the more in detail friends pages OR NOT. You MUST, however, be already on the photo/name Friend's Page first to utilize the In Detail Friends Pages. -- -- If Jimmy cracks corn and no one cares, why is there a song about him? -- I thought I saw an eye doctor on an Alaskan island, but it turned out to be an optical Aleutian. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SPAM from In Depth Friends Page
For some light and humorous reading, revenge on the scammers: http://www.419eater.com/ http://www.419eater.com/ especially The Trophy Room, and Letters Archive. From: sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: meteoritem...@gmail.com; mlbl...@cox.net Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:54:15 -0500 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SPAM from In Depth Friends Page Hi, Mike, List, Who falls for that stuff anyway? Advance Fee Frauds, or 419 scams, collect in excess of half a billion US dollars a year worldwide, of which at least $80 million a year comes frome the US. The Champion US Sucker is an Oregon woman who lose over $400,000 in 2008. Victims have been kidnapped for ransom, murdered, and sometimes turned into criminals themselves. Read all about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_fraud Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Galactic Stone Ironworks To: Michael Blood Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SPAM from In Depth Friends Page Hi Michael, I received a spam response from the friends page as well. But, I get so much spam anyway (from the web in general, not your site), that it didn't bug me. I just deleted it. It was the typical Nigerian type scam involving millions of dollars, bank transfers, etc. Who falls for that stuff anyway? Best regards, MikeG On 8/5/09, Michael Blood wrote: Hi all, I have been alerted by at least 3 people that a Spam mailing, specifically citing my IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE (kindly hosted by that king of Web pages, Paul Harris his partner in crime, The ingenious Jim Tobin) First: this particular spam actually cited my Page as their source - I assume to gain a sense of honesty or affiliation. I can think of no other reason (unless I get really paranoid and start suspecting someone Is ticked at me and wants to taint my endeavors - seams Highly unlikely) Second: one must realize spammers have a wide Arsenal of methods of getting email addresses. Spam Is the dog poop on the lawn - yet we all continue to Have lawns (except that clever devil, Geoff Notkin, Who has sand and cactus). Those that want to remove their email address From their IN DEPTH FRIENDS PAGE, go for it - You can edit it out just as you edited in any and all Information there. HOWEVER, that will be a drop In the bucket, as spamming bastards, as I said, will Get your email address so many ways it would blow Your mind - it starts when you GET an email address, Expands when you email ANYONE, visit ANY net Site, order anything on the net, receive email, etc. Every conceivable method one could think of (and MANY one would not think of) is used. I would be amazed if there is not an ebook available For spammers! Anyway, the point is, if you want to edit out your email Address you can do so just as you put it in but the effect On the amount of spam you receive will likely be unnoticeable. Sorry this is how it is. Best wishes, Michael __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Personal Site - http://www.glassthrower.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Stay in the loop and chat with friends, right from your inbox! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671354 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Admire/Bondoc
Begin forwarded message: From: meteoritehun...@comcast.net Date: August 5, 2009 4:58:04 PM GMT-07:00 To: mikew...@gilanet.com Subject: Admire/Bondoc Michael, Can you forward this to the list? Mike I have updated my website today with some nice museum pieces, Admire from Nininger and ASU collections and Bondoc from the Smithsonian collection. I have more pieces than are listed, so if you want something specific or a different price range, email me. I have many pieces of Bondoc, polished or unpolished, silicate, pyroxene, or metal-rich pieces including large metal nodule pieces all with copies of Smithsonian label. Admire I have both polished and unpolished pieces, ncie crystals and metal, all with copies of ASU label. http://meteoriteguy.com/catalog/admire.htm http://meteoriteguy.com/catalog/bondoc.htm http://www.meteoritehunter.com Thanks Michael Farmer __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Let's Admire an Ad for Admire on Ebay
Hello List, I have been asked to document what Admire Pallasite material is actually worth. Some say under $0.10/g; others say $1.00/g; while still others say $10.00/g and there are buyers that seem to be happy to pay over $50/g in places. But, all those numbers are just guesses. Since so little of Admire has made it onto the retail market in the last 15 years, it is hard to determine what the true fair market value would be nowadays. So I figured the best way to find out would be to start some at $1 on Ebay with no reserve, and see where they end at. I don't want to put up too much up on Ebay all closing on one night, so I am starting the test with 8 various sized pieces in this first Ebay batch from 1.9 grams up to over 2.4 kg. Depending on how these in the first batch go, I will determine how much more I will put up later on Ebay. If some of you would like to see bigger pieces on Ebay, let me know off list. But whatever happens, I should be able to have a documented range of what the market values are for different sized pieces. There was a dilemma I was facing, on whether I wanted to spend my one AD for the week here at the start of the auctions, or wait until right before they all close on Saturday to put my one AD up here on the Meteorite List. Since I am doing this round for only a 3 day auction, I figured it would be best to go ahead and get the notice out here at the start so everyone has the time to check them out. Everyone is invited to admire the 8 Admire lots I have up on Ebay here: http://stores.ebay.com/Steve-Arnold-Meteorites?refid=store Remember to bid high and bid often. And don't forget that the object of the game is to see how high you can bid the lots up without getting caught! ;-) Thanks for your consideration. Steve Arnold of Meteorite Men __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
