Re: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)

2009-10-28 Thread Jason Utas
Yo,

Well, I'm not sure about how a real physicist would see his explosive
fission theory, but from what I've learned, that sounds like a load of
BS.  Do you know how much energy would be required to get something
the size of the moon out as far as it is?  Or to move it ten feet in
any direction?  There's not enough fissionable material in the planet
to move it a tenth of the distance away from the earth that it is -
never mind the lack of a catalyst for such an event.

Beyond that, take a look at the age of the australasian tektite field
- 803,000 (+/-3,000) years old.  Not only would this make the moon a
mere 800,000 years old, but according to his theory, the explosive
fission event also led to the beginning of plate tectonics.  Now we
have a real problem.  If plate tectonics started 800,000 years ago.

http://www.visionlearning.com/library/module_viewer.php?mid=65

Right.  A process that is accepted by mainstream science (plate
tectonics - not a controversial subject) that we're certain was
occurring >200 million years ago was kick-started by an impact 800,000
years ago.  And this is supported by a plethora of biological and
geological evidence.

And then you have the references like this:

"There are currently several problems with the big impact theory.
Where did the hypothetical Theia come from and what was the credible
mechanism to generate identical oxygen isotopes? Unfortunately there
are now more and more ad-hoc auxiliary hypotheses to keep the main
hypothesis afloat."

Well, not so hard to explain:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V66-3VW7RRH-D&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1068956432&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C50221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=765ea067d30de32d5cfb53d486e32683

Maybe we were hit by an impactor with similar oxygen isotopes.  Or
maybe the impact occurred early enough for things to homogenize
somewhat afterwards (we did have plate tectonics, after all).  At
least those scenarios are *possible.*

Or how about :

"The Moon genesis explosion would have created many signatures such as
the uplift of the Himalayas, the huge elevated plateau of Tibet and
the impression that India apparently collided with Eurasia, as
suggested first by Dewey and Bird in 1970."

Plate tectonics?  Generally accepted science?  You might as well say
that the Chicxulub crater is volcanic.  That's the kind of claim he's
making.

My personal favorite:

"For example the same explosive shock wave that sent the Moon into
orbit could also account for a host of geological anomalies including:
orphiolites (mantle rocks embedded in the crust), cryptoexplosive
craters eg the Bushveld complex, the global K-T (cretaceous-tertiary)
iridium layer, the enrichment of certain elements in the mantle,
undersea plateaus, certain antipodal relationships on the Earth, the
presence of volatiles, like the suspected gaseous emission (transient
lunar phenomenon, TLP) and water on the Moon."

So now this impact occurred ~3.5 billion years ago, 65 million years
ago, 800,000 years ago - and everywhere in between.  And accounts for
many phenomena which are likely completely unrelated.

- And some more nonsensical rubbish like this:

"This means that oceanic slabs need not be continually subducting
under continents in what are called Wilson cycles. If there was no
recycling of ocean floor then what is laid down now is the original
ocean floor. So this logic leads to the implication that the oldest
original ocean floor in the North western Pacific is only 200 million
years old."

Take a look at this carefully.  If oceanic slabs were not being
subducted, they would be as old as...well, whenever they formed.  This
logic would lead to the implication of the fact that the ocean floor
is old - at least as old as the moon, because he states that the scar
left by the expulsion of the moon created the hole in which the ocean
formed (this sounds like a child wrote it).  Of course, the age of
this hole is ambiguous; with the age of the moon being anywhere from
800,000 years to 3.5 billion, we're really not left with much to work
with; everything we know is clearly wrong.  According to Coleman,
though, the event also 'reset geologic clocks on earth,' so everything
we think we currently know about geology (at least geology since the
event) is likely...yeah, wrong.  It's ok, though.  What is clear in
the article is that he's working to figure all of this out.  He'll
save science, singlehandedly if he must.

Hm.

Yeah, I should get back to homework.  It's physics...and this is a
waste of time.
Regards,
Jason

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> Hello!  Not sure where the holes are. This theory is much the same as Dr. H=
> artmann and
> Dr. Davis hypothesized in their paper=

Re: [meteorite-list] Collection succession planning

2009-10-28 Thread bill kies

Are we temporary custodians? That implies we owe the collective in a Jungian 
way. If you consider all the negative things that could happen to our 
meteorites/belongings, you'll either become a monk or a nervous wreck. 
 
Everything should be recorded in case of an accident but life comes before the 
provenance of any collection. Time is so short for us.
 
This comment is based on an assumption of what your article was about as the 
link didn't work for me.
 
Thanks,
Bill
 

> From: d...@fallingrocks.com
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:19:01 -0400
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Collection succession planning
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I recently wrote a brief article that Larry ran in the August 2009 issue of
> Meteorite Magazine entitled "Temporary Custodians," and the response has
> been a bit surprising. Somewhere around a couple dozen readers have taken
> the time to drop me an email saying things like "thanks for the heads-up
> article...[it] made for uneasy reading." Surely there are collectors on
> this list who do not yet subscribe to Meteorite Magazine (and everyone on
> this list really should!), so, given the topic, I'm posting a transcript
> below.
> 
> The content is by no means comprehensive, but I'd really encourage those of
> you with meteorite collections to give it a quick read. Most of us have
> been guilty at one time or another -- or at all times -- of leaving loose
> ends such as those described in the writing. Anyway, a web version of it
> can be found here: http://www.fallingrocks.com/FRarticle-082009.htm.
> 
> Larry, I hope you don't mind my posting it here, and thank you again for
> giving the topic coverage in Meteorite!
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Dave
> 
> Dave Gheesling
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Re: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)

2009-10-28 Thread Dennis Miller

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Hello!  Not sure where the holes are. This theory is much the same as Dr. H=
artmann and
Dr. Davis hypothesized in their paper=2C in the late 70's and more recently=
 by Dr. Jeffery
Taylor's published research.  I kinda like the impact theory from 4 billion=
 years ago.
Just wondering which theory you like?
Dennis
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> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Relate=
d)
>=20
> What a fruit loop. This theory has more holes in it than swiss cheese. Do=
es he think the moon is made of cheese too? I stopped reading half way thro=
ugh.
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> Aubrey
> www.tektites.co.uk
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> --- On Thu=2C 29/10/09=2C Michael Groetz  wrote:
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>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)
>> To: "Meteorite List" 
>> Date: Thursday=2C 29 October=2C 2009=2C 0:04
>> Big Bang Origin Of The Moon
>>=20
>> Explosive ejection from the Philippine Sea Plate
>>=20
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>> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0910/S00066.htm
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>> "Coleman speculates that the Philippine Sea
>> Plate was once
>> an enormous hole out of which the Moon exited=2C and left a
>> strewen
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[meteorite-list] Collection succession planning

2009-10-28 Thread Dave Gheesling
Hi All,

I recently wrote a brief article that Larry ran in the August 2009 issue of
Meteorite Magazine entitled "Temporary Custodians," and the response has
been a bit surprising.  Somewhere around a couple dozen readers have taken
the time to drop me an email saying things like "thanks for the heads-up
article...[it] made for uneasy reading."  Surely there are collectors on
this list who do not yet subscribe to Meteorite Magazine (and everyone on
this list really should!), so, given the topic, I'm posting a transcript
below.

The content is by no means comprehensive, but I'd really encourage those of
you with meteorite collections to give it a quick read.  Most of us have
been guilty at one time or another -- or at all times -- of leaving loose
ends such as those described in the writing.  Anyway, a web version of it
can be found here: http://www.fallingrocks.com/FRarticle-082009.htm.

Larry, I hope you don't mind my posting it here, and thank you again for
giving the topic coverage in Meteorite!

All the best,

Dave

Dave Gheesling
IMCA #5967
www.fallingrocks.com 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)

2009-10-28 Thread Aubrey Whymark
What a fruit loop. This theory has more holes in it than swiss cheese. Does he 
think the moon is made of cheese too? I stopped reading half way through.

Aubrey
www.tektites.co.uk



--- On Thu, 29/10/09, Michael Groetz  wrote:

> From: Michael Groetz 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)
> To: "Meteorite List" 
> Date: Thursday, 29 October, 2009, 0:04
> Big Bang Origin Of The Moon
> 
> Explosive ejection from the Philippine Sea Plate
> 
> 
> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0910/S00066.htm
> 
> 
> "Coleman speculates that the Philippine Sea
> Plate was once
> an enormous hole out of which the Moon exited, and left a
> strewen
> field, or trail, of previously unexplained glassy
> tektites...
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[meteorite-list] Rare Material Auctions - 99 cent Starting - AD

2009-10-28 Thread Greg Hupe

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[meteorite-list] Latvia Meteorite Hoax: Telecom Co. In Trouble

2009-10-28 Thread Meteorites USA

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Re: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)

2009-10-28 Thread Rob McCafferty
Can somebody please explain to me two things?

1: How does this sort of crap get published
2: Why anybody thinks that publishing it is helpful when we live in a world of 
idiots who only believe things that can be explained in less than 30 seconds.

Rob McC

--- On Thu, 10/29/09, Michael Groetz  wrote:

> From: Michael Groetz 
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)
> To: "Meteorite List" 
> Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 12:04 AM
> Big Bang Origin Of The Moon
> 
> Explosive ejection from the Philippine Sea Plate
> 
> 
> http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0910/S00066.htm
> 
> 
> "Coleman speculates that the Philippine Sea
> Plate was once
> an enormous hole out of which the Moon exited, and left a
> strewen
> field, or trail, of previously unexplained glassy
> tektites...
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[meteorite-list] Big Bang Origin Of The Moon (Tektite Related)

2009-10-28 Thread Michael Groetz
Big Bang Origin Of The Moon

Explosive ejection from the Philippine Sea Plate


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0910/S00066.htm


"Coleman speculates that the Philippine Sea Plate was once
an enormous hole out of which the Moon exited, and left a strewen
field, or trail, of previously unexplained glassy
tektites...
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[meteorite-list] AD - ebay auctions ending on Saturday

2009-10-28 Thread meteoriteshow
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Meteorite Wiki (ReCaptcha Added) Plus Licensing

2009-10-28 Thread Meteorites USA

Hello all,

Since last night I've received numerous emails thanking me for creating 
the Meteorite Wiki, offers of help, and warning at the same time of some 
unscrupulous fellows and spam-bots that would love to deface the wiki.


I've taken the advice and made some changes as well as increased the 
security of the site against Spam-Bots by adding ReCaptcha, an anti-spam 
registration verification system. Many of you are familiar with Captcha 
when you sign up for membership on many popular websites. It requires 
you to input a series of letters, words and/or numbers to verify you are 
a human user and not an automated spam-bot!


Hopefully this system will at least cut down on the "bad links" and 
discourage the people who would spam the site.


In addition, I've received a few emails regarding content contributions 
and possible licensing ideas, especially for the republishing of 
Wikipedia content relating to meteorites. To relieve all concerns 
regarding content creation and credit to outside sources, we're working 
hard on adding an attribution license that will fit this site and still 
allow as many users to contribute content while still providing some 
kind of commercial content protection. Personally I do not mind 
contributed content to be used commercially, but for some, they may wish 
to keep the content under an Attribution Share Alike license like 
Wikipedia has.


Thoughts and ideas on this are welcome and will be considered at length.

Well guys, thanks for the input, keep it coming, and enjoy the site!

Regards,
Eric Wichman
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Meteorites USA wrote:

Hello Listees,

Unfortunately there's been some trouble with uncool links on the 
Meteorite Wiki.


I'd like to apologize to everyone about the "bad links" on the site. 
Someone decided to be a jerk and post a bunch of not so cool links. I 
thought I had removed all the bad links from the site. Sorry guys... I 
guess it's something you have to deal with with an open community 
information site. If ANYONE sees anything questionable on the site, 
please send me the link to the page and I'll edit it accordingly. Just 
a warning to all the would be "bad link" posters, Don't even think 
about it! I will report anyone defacing the site under the Can-Spam 
act and you will answer to the law, this is NOT a threat, do NOT try 
me on this! This is my only warning to anyone who would try it. It 
will not be tolerated. Again, I apologize for any offense this may 
have inadvertently caused due to missing a few bad links in the edit.


Those of you who would like to come on board to help with the 
Meteorite Wiki I welcome you to contact me. I may have to pick out a 
few trusted moderators to help moderate the site as well.


Thanks for all your input, and enjoy the site.

The Meteorite Wiki: www.meteoritewiki.com

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[meteorite-list] New baby girl

2009-10-28 Thread Charley
Hi Michael,

Congratulations!

Best regards,

Charley

"Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's
  try elephants !"

Hannibal

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> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:50:47 -0700
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights,
> Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am
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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - October 28, 2009

2009-10-28 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
October 28, 2009

o Channels from Hale Crater
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_005609_1470

o USGS Dune Database Entry
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014429_1940 

o Unnamed Fresh Crater South of Isidis Region
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014412_1780

o Pebas Crater with Asymmetric Flow-Ejecta in Eastern Meridiani Planum
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014389_1775

o South Polar Residual Cap Monitoring: Rare Stratigraphic Contacts
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_014379_0925

All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread Sean T. Murray

He's got a whole bucket-'o-kids at home veteran

Sean

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Cc: 
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Congratulations! If it is your first..then welcome to the club!

Count Deiro

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Sent: Oct 28, 2009 12:02 PM
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Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Aloha Michael, ke Hoʻomaikaʻi - congratulations on the birth of your
daughter, and all the best to you and your wife on this momentous
occasion.

gary

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Some Highlights:

(Ash Creek) The WEST, Texas Fall, L6, 13.77g - OUTSTANDING SLICE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342517349

(New) CV3, NWA 5546, Africa, MAIN MASS, 248 g   ... WOW a Real Cool
Main Mass!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342400836

A Beautiful Slice of SEYMCHAN, Pal, 182 gram - This is THE LAST of
my High Grade slices left. Close to a 2k specimen and currently a
fantastic deal for someone. Even at twice the current bid it is a
deal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220497190785

Possible Fall VIEDMA, Argentina, L5, 2.40 g, Not much of this one
around. A great bargin!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496683525

Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 49.99 g, A very cool end cut!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496633421

-Extremely Rare-BONDOC, Philippines, Mes, 67g - Rare and it speaks
for itself!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496277850

(NEW) NWA 4851, L6, Rare Individual 73.47g _ THERE ARE NOT many
individuals from this one and this one is a beauty!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395646153

New Fall- TAMDAKHT, H5, 72g, Individual *  Please Look at This One...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395369107

Very Rare Fall-ZHOVTNEVYI, Ukraine, H5, 1.39g - Another rare fall !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342624035

(NEW) Ungrouped Ataxite, GRIFFITH, TX, 45.25g - LAST Large slice
left!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342392734

Rare Low Total Known Weight-ALDAMA (b), 2.22g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393612

Outstanding Silicated-Campo Del Cielo -25.75g - Real Nice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393789

Really Nice LUNAR/MARTIAN Set, 4 Different - A pretty Cool Set !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342394264

(NEW) NWA 5530, H5, Huge Slice-612 gram - BIG BIG BIG !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342611137

Chondrule Rich- NWA 5421, LL3.7, 6.47 gram - SUPER NICE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342619891

SAYH AL UHAYMIR 001, L4/5, Oman, 35.22 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496489008

Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 3.64g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496621784

Beautiful (New), -NWA 5526, L3, 40.46 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496483456

Extremely Rare-WABAR, Saudi Arabia, 1.66 g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496634617

Superb CAMEL DONGA, Eucrite, Oriented, 21g
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread countdeiro
Congratulations! If it is your first..then welcome to the club!

Count Deiro

-Original Message-
>From: Gary Fujihara 
>Sent: Oct 28, 2009 12:02 PM
>To: michael cottingham 
>Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, 
>Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am
>
>Aloha Michael, ke Hoʻomaikaʻi - congratulations on the birth of your  
>daughter, and all the best to you and your wife on this momentous  
>occasion.
>
>gary
>
>On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:50 PM, michael cottingham wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A quick report A beautiful, healthy, and big baby girl was born  
>> at 12:45 am today!  Everyone is doing fine and I must say dad is  
>> exhausted!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> THE PORTAL ENTRANCE TO MY STORE:
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>>>
>>>
>>> ALL AUCTIONS THIS WEEK:
>>>
>>> http://shop.ebay.com:80/meteorite-collector/m.html?LH_Auction=1&_trksid=p3911.c0.m301
>>>
>>> Remember there are 2 pages of auctions this week and many of the  
>>> best ones are on the second page, so do not forget to look on page  
>>> 2 !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Some Highlights:
>>>
>>> (Ash Creek) The WEST, Texas Fall, L6, 13.77g - OUTSTANDING SLICE!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342517349
>>>
>>> (New) CV3, NWA 5546, Africa, MAIN MASS, 248 g   ... WOW a Real Cool  
>>> Main Mass!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342400836
>>>
>>> A Beautiful Slice of SEYMCHAN, Pal, 182 gram - This is THE LAST of  
>>> my High Grade slices left. Close to a 2k specimen and currently a  
>>> fantastic deal for someone. Even at twice the current bid it is a  
>>> deal!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220497190785
>>>
>>> Possible Fall VIEDMA, Argentina, L5, 2.40 g, Not much of this one  
>>> around. A great bargin!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496683525
>>>
>>> Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 49.99 g, A very cool end cut!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496633421
>>>
>>> -Extremely Rare-BONDOC, Philippines, Mes, 67g - Rare and it speaks  
>>> for itself!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496277850
>>>
>>> (NEW) NWA 4851, L6, Rare Individual 73.47g _ THERE ARE NOT many  
>>> individuals from this one and this one is a beauty!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395646153
>>>
>>> New Fall- TAMDAKHT, H5, 72g, Individual *  Please Look at This One...
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395369107
>>>
>>> Very Rare Fall-ZHOVTNEVYI, Ukraine, H5, 1.39g - Another rare fall !
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342624035
>>>
>>> (NEW) Ungrouped Ataxite, GRIFFITH, TX, 45.25g - LAST Large slice  
>>> left!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342392734
>>>
>>> Rare Low Total Known Weight-ALDAMA (b), 2.22g
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393612
>>>
>>> Outstanding Silicated-Campo Del Cielo -25.75g - Real Nice!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393789
>>>
>>> Really Nice LUNAR/MARTIAN Set, 4 Different - A pretty Cool Set !
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342394264
>>>
>>> (NEW) NWA 5530, H5, Huge Slice-612 gram - BIG BIG BIG !
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342611137
>>>
>>> Chondrule Rich- NWA 5421, LL3.7, 6.47 gram - SUPER NICE!
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342619891
>>>
>>> SAYH AL UHAYMIR 001, L4/5, Oman, 35.22 gram
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496489008
>>>
>>> Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 3.64g
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496621784
>>>
>>> Beautiful (New), -NWA 5526, L3, 40.46 gram
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496483456
>>>
>>> Extremely Rare-WABAR, Saudi Arabia, 1.66 g
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496634617
>>>
>>> Superb CAMEL DONGA, Eucrite, Oriented, 21g
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220497261117
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IF YOU LIKE ARROWHEADS CHECK OUT THIS LOT OF 400+
>>> Neolithic Points/Blade/Arrowhead- (400) w/3 Books #5
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/e

Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa

2009-10-28 Thread Matson, Robert D.
E.P. wrote:

> Take a look at the INTCAL98 14C calibration chart. Major spikes appear
> to map to impacts.

"Spikes" in the C14 calibration chart can be caused by a number of
factors
(including measurement uncertainty/error). But the main cause of
variability
in the production rate of atmospheric C14 is simply variation in the
flux
of cosmic rays. Cosmic ray intensity is modulated by both the strength
of
the earth's magnetosphere and the sun's solar wind, neither of which is
constant.

>From the other side of the equation, atmospheric C12 is ALSO modulated
by earthly processes (e.g. volcanic eruptions, ocean temperature
changes)
which can produce regional anomalies in the samples used to build the
radiocarbon calibration curves.

There is no evidence that large impacts can cause nuclear reactions that
release neutrons. There isn't sufficient energy or fissionable material,
so I have difficulty coming up with a mechanism which could cause a
large spike in neutrons. I suppose if an impactor had an anomolously
high
beryllium content and it happened to hit an earth location with rich
uranium deposits, then you could get a small neutron hiccup. But
siderites
are very low in berrylium (< 10 parts per billion), so that's a no-go on
Odessa. Even chondrites typically have only a few hundred parts per
billion.

--Rob
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Teacher Aids

2009-10-28 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi List!

Here is a weblink with some great resources for teachers.

Scroll down towards the middle and bottom to see the meteorite-related
materials.

http://www.outofthecradle.net/archives/2008/10/teacher-tools-for-the-high-frontier-rocks-in-space/

Best regards,

MikeG


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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Hall of fame discussion

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Sorry, I mixed up the addresses.

This was from the IMCA-mailing-list and the reply was thought to be sent to
the IMCA-mailing list, not to the meteorite-mailing-list.

My apologies.

Meteorites are in the air!
Martin in Munich


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: dave carothers [mailto:carother...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2009 20:02
An: Martin Altmann
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Hall of fame discussion

Martin,

When you mention Steve Arnold Chicago, please let me remind you...

The request was for nominations to the "Hall of FAME" not "Hall of SHAME"

Regards,

Dave Carothers


- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Hall of fame discussion


Chladni, Schreibers, Tschermak, Daubrée, Krinov, Ramdohr, Paneth, Buchwald,
& Steve Arnold Chicago.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: imca-boun...@imcamail.de [mailto:imca-boun...@imcamail.de] Im Auftrag
von Greg Catterton
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2009 19:03
An: i...@imcamail.de
Betreff: [IMCA] Hall of fame discussion

Hey, hope everyone is doing good today.

Some time ago (around the passing of Richard Norton)the idea for a meteorite
hall of fame was brought up on the met list.

I think this would be a good thing for the IMCA to do. As a collectors group
and not a "dealer" an idea of this nature would be more respected and seen
as more legitimate.

I have been spending some time thinking about this and I just picked up a
great domain name that would cover this very well. I would be willing to
offer it to the IMCA (for free) to use for the HOF site and would even work
on setting it up.

I am going to be offering out a few ideas over the coming days to get some
life to the IMCA list, hopefully some good results/discussions can come from
them.

What is everyones opinion of the hall of fame idea?
I have some ideas and a basic blueprint of what I see the Hall of fame as
being - I think it should be focused on contributions to the field of
meteoritics. members of the Hall of fame would be elected/nominated by the
IMCA (this might also bring in new members to be able to vote and nominate
for HOF status)

Anyone who has made a significant impact could be considered. I dont think
dealers as a whole should be included unless they have made significant
contributions (not just buying and selling meteorites)

My first nominations would be for:

Bob Haag (its Bob Haag, enough said)

Harvey Nininger (renewed scientific interest in meteorites)

Richard Norton (his books are what helped many of us better understand and
learn about meteorites)

Richard Kowalski (found the first meteorite before it became a meteorite!)

Jean Baptiste Biot (first strewnfield map and so much more)



Greg C.

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Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA] Hall of fame discussion

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Chladni, Schreibers, Tschermak, Daubrée, Krinov, Ramdohr, Paneth, Buchwald,
& Steve Arnold Chicago.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: imca-boun...@imcamail.de [mailto:imca-boun...@imcamail.de] Im Auftrag
von Greg Catterton
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2009 19:03
An: i...@imcamail.de
Betreff: [IMCA] Hall of fame discussion

Hey, hope everyone is doing good today. 

Some time ago (around the passing of Richard Norton)the idea for a meteorite
hall of fame was brought up on the met list.

I think this would be a good thing for the IMCA to do. As a collectors group
and not a "dealer" an idea of this nature would be more respected and seen
as more legitimate.

I have been spending some time thinking about this and I just picked up a
great domain name that would cover this very well. I would be willing to
offer it to the IMCA (for free) to use for the HOF site and would even work
on setting it up.

I am going to be offering out a few ideas over the coming days to get some
life to the IMCA list, hopefully some good results/discussions can come from
them.

What is everyones opinion of the hall of fame idea?
I have some ideas and a basic blueprint of what I see the Hall of fame as
being - I think it should be focused on contributions to the field of
meteoritics. members of the Hall of fame would be elected/nominated by the
IMCA (this might also bring in new members to be able to vote and nominate
for HOF status)

Anyone who has made a significant impact could be considered. I dont think
dealers as a whole should be included unless they have made significant
contributions (not just buying and selling meteorites)

My first nominations would be for:

Bob Haag (its Bob Haag, enough said)

Harvey Nininger (renewed scientific interest in meteorites)

Richard Norton (his books are what helped many of us better understand and
learn about meteorites)

Richard Kowalski (found the first meteorite before it became a meteorite!)

Jean Baptiste Biot (first strewnfield map and so much more)



Greg C.

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread dave carothers
Congratulations, Mike.  


Regards,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa

2009-10-28 Thread Chris Peterson
The C14 calibration data only goes back 24,000 years, and there have been no 
confirmed significant impacts during that time, and not even any well dated 
minor impacts. So how can spikes in the calibration curve be linked to 
impacts?


Even given a large impact (a big given), there are plausible explanations 
for how this would affect C14 concentrations; far more plausible than the 
very unlikely production of neutrons.


Chris

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- Original Message - 
From: "E.P. Grondine" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa


Take a look at the INTCAL98 14C calibration chart. Major spikes appear to 
map to impacts.


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread Meteorites USA

A BIG! Congratulations Michael!

Regards,
Eric



michael cottingham wrote:



Hello,

A quick report A beautiful, healthy, and big baby girl was born at 
12:45 am today!  Everyone is doing fine and I must say dad is exhausted!








Please join my private sales list. This is an important connection to 
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ALL AUCTIONS THIS WEEK:

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Remember there are 2 pages of auctions this week and many of the best 
ones are on the second page, so do not forget to look on page 2 !




Some Highlights:

(Ash Creek) The WEST, Texas Fall, L6, 13.77g - OUTSTANDING SLICE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342517349

(New) CV3, NWA 5546, Africa, MAIN MASS, 248 g   ... WOW a Real Cool 
Main Mass!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342400836

A Beautiful Slice of SEYMCHAN, Pal, 182 gram - This is THE LAST of my 
High Grade slices left. Close to a 2k specimen and currently a 
fantastic deal for someone. Even at twice the current bid it is a deal!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220497190785

Possible Fall VIEDMA, Argentina, L5, 2.40 g, Not much of this one 
around. A great bargin!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496683525

Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 49.99 g, A very cool end cut!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496633421

-Extremely Rare-BONDOC, Philippines, Mes, 67g - Rare and it speaks 
for itself!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496277850

(NEW) NWA 4851, L6, Rare Individual 73.47g _ THERE ARE NOT many 
individuals from this one and this one is a beauty!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395646153

New Fall- TAMDAKHT, H5, 72g, Individual *  Please Look at This One...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395369107

Very Rare Fall-ZHOVTNEVYI, Ukraine, H5, 1.39g - Another rare fall !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342624035

(NEW) Ungrouped Ataxite, GRIFFITH, TX, 45.25g - LAST Large slice left!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342392734

Rare Low Total Known Weight-ALDAMA (b), 2.22g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393612

Outstanding Silicated-Campo Del Cielo -25.75g - Real Nice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393789

Really Nice LUNAR/MARTIAN Set, 4 Different - A pretty Cool Set !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342394264

(NEW) NWA 5530, H5, Huge Slice-612 gram - BIG BIG BIG !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342611137

Chondrule Rich- NWA 5421, LL3.7, 6.47 gram - SUPER NICE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342619891

SAYH AL UHAYMIR 001, L4/5, Oman, 35.22 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496489008

Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 3.64g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496621784

Beautiful (New), -NWA 5526, L3, 40.46 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496483456

Extremely Rare-WABAR, Saudi Arabia, 1.66 g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496634617

Superb CAMEL DONGA, Eucrite, Oriented, 21g
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Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa

2009-10-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Goran - 

Take a look at the INTCAL98 14C calibration chart. Major spikes appear to map 
to impacts.

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread Tom Randall (KB2SMS)


Mike CONGRATS to you and your wife!!!

All my best!

Tom


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[meteorite-list] Weaubleau-Osceola Structure

2009-10-28 Thread Dale Keel
I am new to the list.

I am looking for interesting photos of the Weaubleau-Osceola Structure area.
Mainly pictures that might indicate that the structure was indeed an impact
crater.  I would be really grateful for photos of Rocks - Road cuts etc with
explanations of what's in the pictures. I visited relatives in the area and
we went on a road trip around route 13 and 82 and saw some amazing road cuts
but I really did not know what I was actually looking at besides some
"unusual rock formations".

My relatives showed me some "round rocks" that they said was caused by the
impact. What is inside them"? Are they solid? They are kind of light for
rocks of their size?

I looked on the internet for "Weaubleau-Osceola meteor" and found alot of
words that I could not understand. What does brecciated rocks look like? How
about shocked Quartz? And folded?

Thanks for any information.

I am an new rock hounder of 2 years and belong to a club in Rancho Palos
Verdes. I volunteered to do a show and tell with the round rocks I have and
would like to be able to give more information and show some photos and be
able to tell members what they are looking at.

Dale

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread Gary Fujihara
Aloha Michael, ke Hoʻomaikaʻi - congratulations on the birth of your  
daughter, and all the best to you and your wife on this momentous  
occasion.


gary

On Oct 27, 2009, at 11:50 PM, michael cottingham wrote:




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(Ash Creek) The WEST, Texas Fall, L6, 13.77g - OUTSTANDING SLICE!
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(New) CV3, NWA 5546, Africa, MAIN MASS, 248 g   ... WOW a Real Cool  
Main Mass!

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A Beautiful Slice of SEYMCHAN, Pal, 182 gram - This is THE LAST of  
my High Grade slices left. Close to a 2k specimen and currently a  
fantastic deal for someone. Even at twice the current bid it is a  
deal!

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Possible Fall VIEDMA, Argentina, L5, 2.40 g, Not much of this one  
around. A great bargin!

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Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 49.99 g, A very cool end cut!
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-Extremely Rare-BONDOC, Philippines, Mes, 67g - Rare and it speaks  
for itself!

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(NEW) NWA 4851, L6, Rare Individual 73.47g _ THERE ARE NOT many  
individuals from this one and this one is a beauty!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395646153

New Fall- TAMDAKHT, H5, 72g, Individual *  Please Look at This One...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395369107

Very Rare Fall-ZHOVTNEVYI, Ukraine, H5, 1.39g - Another rare fall !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342624035

(NEW) Ungrouped Ataxite, GRIFFITH, TX, 45.25g - LAST Large slice  
left!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342392734

Rare Low Total Known Weight-ALDAMA (b), 2.22g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393612

Outstanding Silicated-Campo Del Cielo -25.75g - Real Nice!
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Really Nice LUNAR/MARTIAN Set, 4 Different - A pretty Cool Set !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342394264

(NEW) NWA 5530, H5, Huge Slice-612 gram - BIG BIG BIG !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342611137

Chondrule Rich- NWA 5421, LL3.7, 6.47 gram - SUPER NICE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342619891

SAYH AL UHAYMIR 001, L4/5, Oman, 35.22 gram
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Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 3.64g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496621784

Beautiful (New), -NWA 5526, L3, 40.46 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496483456

Extremely Rare-WABAR, Saudi Arabia, 1.66 g
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Superb CAMEL DONGA, Eucrite, Oriented, 21g
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Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa

2009-10-28 Thread Göran Axelsson

Why should there be any neutrons released at all?
I know of no evidence that an impact would generate neutrons.

/Göran

E.P. Grondine wrote:
Hi Paul - 


If neutrons were released in the Odessa impact, then the OSL dates for it may 
be too old.

E.P. Grondine
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Re: [meteorite-list] Odessa

2009-10-28 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Paul - 

If neutrons were released in the Odessa impact, then the OSL dates for it may 
be too old.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Secret Find/Fall CoordinatesandLegitimacy-Someone help me understand this.

2009-10-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Hmm, Chris,

the most prominent/historical work to mention would be that one about
Sikhote-Alin...  
And at least with observed falls, it was already standard in 19th century,
to map strewnfields and -ellipses.

>to meteorite collectors, hunters, and dealers. But as a scientist, I mainly
>want a few grams accessible for analysis.

See! And that's exactly why we need coordinates, to find as much material as
possible - that you and other scientists will get a sample at all, 
seen from a very practical point of view.

Take the lunars e.g. - on the lunar meteorites are working dozens of labs,
hundreds of scientists and students.
Coordinates create higher tkws.
Imagine, what if a university would have to pay 200,000$ a gram like in the
90ies or 25,000$ like still 8-9 years ago for a lunar.
Most couldn't afford that, most couldn't work on the stuff.

Very practical we see it with our work, several of our recoveries from NWA
were so low in tkw, but so important and unique, that so many institutes
wanted to work on them, that we couldn't satisfy all requests, because there
was much to less material.
(Just right now we have to contact the institutes again firstly
with a new find, cause if we would introduce it to the collectors,
there wouldn't be enough material left for research).

How much easier would it be, if the coordinates and the find location would
be known, so that more and intensive searchs could be carried out, to
generate more material.

O.k. with NWA and the desert finds in general, we have the problem, that the
new policy of countries like Algeria or Oman prevents such a process, and
old classic meteorite countries like Australia almost invite finders to
obscure the find locations,
due to unhandy laws. (Australia after a promising development of the find
numbers - while in free coutries like USA the number of finds exploded -
felt back to the period of 1860 - 1950.)
And the developments in MetSoc make me not directly confident, that in
future such a situation or the same mistakes could be prevented in other
desert countries.

Or sume very simple examples, for the collectors to understand.
Take Muonionalusta - at my times, there were only the three modest specimens
known, locked away in institutes - and the collector and the scientist had
to pay around 20$ a gram, if he wanted to get it. 
Imagine the place of find wouldn't have been known!
Nowadays due to the recent new finds of several tonnes, a Muonionalusta
costs only 100-150$ a kilogram.

Brahin, very popular today as the cheapest pallasite in history - in the
80ies, 90ies, it was very difficult to get 
and it was priced like an Esquel. Only due to the new hunts we are there,
where we are now, where you can have that stuff at 1$ or less for larger
specimens or cuts.


Brenham - if the Real Arnold and the Real Notkin wouldn't have known, where
to look...
Nowadays because of their great work, you and science are paying for Brenham
less than in the years after the finds of the first masses and less than a
Nininger had asked.


Seymchan - always unavailable - and without the new finds of the Russian
heroes, we even wouldn't know, that a Seymchan is a pallasite!

Kainsaz, Chinga, and so on, the list is long...   

And so on.

Without coordinates, that all wouldn't have been possible and wouldn't have
happened.


>I honestly don't see the very small number of undisclosed locations 
>having any significant impact on the science of meteoritics at all.

The number is HUGE !
The find locations of most NWAs are unknown.

And the field of NWA is by far the most productive meteorite region of all,
well in front of Antarctica - yayaya 35 -40,000 Antartic "meteorites" but
these are field numbers, not different meteorites, divide them by 5 (cause
that is given as average pairing rate).
With NWA alone, aside other Sahara finds, we're know already at number 6000
in less than 10 years (Antarctica 33 years).
And if you check the Bulletin database, the rare types, the NWAs do have
much higher tkws than the Antarctic finds..
..and the NWA, what you see in the Bulletins, is the tip of the iceberg,
cause predominantly and disproportionally the rare and rarest types are
brought to classification - cause the main load, the weathered ordinary
chondrites (wich you have with the Antarctics) still have to come, cause
there aren't enough capacities to classify them at present (and because the
market prices are still insufficient).
And it was the desert finds, which caused the enormous boost of meteoritical
science and science, that we observed these years.

NWA is the largest space program of our times.

(wow, I need a copyright for that sentence).

And that at a small fraction of the price of the smallest and cheapest space
probe.

And I really hope, that this will finally be cognized by the Meteoritical
Society and that MetSoc will do everything, which is in their power,
that NWA can be continued.
Cause at the moment we're facing the beginning complete breakdown of the
NW

[meteorite-list] Odessa Impact Crater and OSL Dating

2009-10-28 Thread Paul
E.P. Grondine wrote:
 
“When
I visited Odessa I was told that it was suspected 
to be the impact of a fragment related to the Barringer 
impactor. My suspicion is that the Barringer impact is 
seen in the spike of C14 in the INTCAL98 chart around 
45,000 BCE. So what is OSL dating anyway, and how
accurate 
is it?”
 
The details of the dating of the Odessa crater is
discussed in:
 
Holliday, V. T., D. A. Kring, J. H. Mayer, and R. J.
Goble, 
2005, Age and effects of the Odessa meteorite impact,
western 
Texas, USA. Geology. vol. 33, no. 12, pp. 945-947.
 
Its abstract reads:
 
“Dating by optically stimulated luminescence indicates 
that it was produced immediately prior to ca. 63.5+/-
4.5 ka. Sediment filling the crater includes impact 
breccias produced at the time of impact; wind-dominated 
silts with minor amounts of pond sediments deposited ca. 
63.5 ka, probably just after the impact...”
 
The PDf file can be found at:
 
http://www.argonaut.arizona.edu/articles/holliday_etal2005.pdf
 
http://www.argonaut.arizona.edu/holliday.htm
 
Optically stimulated luminescence (OSL) dating can be
quite 
accurate as cross-dating between contemporaneous OSL and 
radiocarbon samples has demonstrated. As with any other
dating
methods a person has to be careful in only dating
materials 
that can be reliably dated; in how they collect the
samples; 
and how they transport the samples to the OSL lab.
Single-grain 
OSL dating of sediments is the most reliable way of OSL
dating
sediments.
 
Web pages about OSL dating are “Luminescence Dating - 

Introduction and Overview of the the Technique” at:
 
http://crustal.usgs.gov/laboratories/luminescence_dating/technique.html

and "Optically Stimulated Luminescence (OSL)" at:

 
http://www.uic.edu/labs/ldrl/about.html
http://www.uic.edu/labs/ldrl/osl.html
 
A few of many, many papers and articles on OSL dating are:
 
1. Murray, A. M., J. M. Olley, 2002, Precision and
accuracy in 
the optically stimulated luminescence dating of
sedimentary 
quartz. Geochronometria. vol. 21, pp 1-16.
 
http://www.carbon14.pl/geo/pdf/Geo21.pdf.
 2. Ballarini, M., 2006, Optical Dating of Quartz from 
Young Deposits From Single-Aliquot to Single-Grain. Delft 
University Press, Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
 
http://repository.tudelft.nl/file/224774/190288
 
3. optically stimulated luminescence dating— an
introduction
 
http://geoinfo.nmt.edu/publications/periodicals/nmg/29/n4/1%20OSLintro.pdf
 
Yours,
 
Paul H.


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread Matthias Bärmann

Congratulations! All the best for you and your family!

Kind regards,

Matthias

- Original Message - 
From: "michael cottingham" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, 
Updates,100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am






Hello,

A quick report A beautiful, healthy, and big baby girl was born at 
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(Ash Creek) The WEST, Texas Fall, L6, 13.77g - OUTSTANDING SLICE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342517349

(New) CV3, NWA 5546, Africa, MAIN MASS, 248 g   ... WOW a Real Cool  Main 
Mass!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342400836

A Beautiful Slice of SEYMCHAN, Pal, 182 gram - This is THE LAST of  my 
High Grade slices left. Close to a 2k specimen and currently a  fantastic 
deal for someone. Even at twice the current bid it is a  deal!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220497190785

Possible Fall VIEDMA, Argentina, L5, 2.40 g, Not much of this one 
around. A great bargin!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496683525

Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 49.99 g, A very cool end cut!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496633421

-Extremely Rare-BONDOC, Philippines, Mes, 67g - Rare and it speaks  for 
itself!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496277850

(NEW) NWA 4851, L6, Rare Individual 73.47g _ THERE ARE NOT many 
individuals from this one and this one is a beauty!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395646153

New Fall- TAMDAKHT, H5, 72g, Individual *  Please Look at This One...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200395369107

Very Rare Fall-ZHOVTNEVYI, Ukraine, H5, 1.39g - Another rare fall !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342624035

(NEW) Ungrouped Ataxite, GRIFFITH, TX, 45.25g - LAST Large slice left!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342392734

Rare Low Total Known Weight-ALDAMA (b), 2.22g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393612

Outstanding Silicated-Campo Del Cielo -25.75g - Real Nice!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342393789

Really Nice LUNAR/MARTIAN Set, 4 Different - A pretty Cool Set !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342394264

(NEW) NWA 5530, H5, Huge Slice-612 gram - BIG BIG BIG !
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342611137

Chondrule Rich- NWA 5421, LL3.7, 6.47 gram - SUPER NICE!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190342619891

SAYH AL UHAYMIR 001, L4/5, Oman, 35.22 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496489008

Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 3.64g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496621784

Beautiful (New), -NWA 5526, L3, 40.46 gram
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496483456

Extremely Rare-WABAR, Saudi Arabia, 1.66 g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220496634617

Superb CAMEL DONGA, Eucrite, Oriented, 21g
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220497261117



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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread W&S Schroer



Hello,

A quick report A beautiful, healthy, and big baby girl was born at 
12:45 am today!  Everyone is doing fine and I must say dad is exhausted!


So are we, Michael.;) Congratulations and all the best to your wife and the 
baby and keep up the good work!!
Werner Schroer 


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[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions End Today! Auction Highlights, Updates, 100+ NEW specimens added to My Store! Baby Born 12:45 am

2009-10-28 Thread michael cottingham



Hello,

A quick report A beautiful, healthy, and big baby girl was born at  
12:45 am today!  Everyone is doing fine and I must say dad is exhausted!








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Witnessed Fall THUATHE, Lesotho, 49.99 g, A very cool end cut!
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(NEW) Ungrouped Ataxite, GRIFFITH, TX, 45.25g - LAST Large slice left!
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Rare Low Total Known Weight-ALDAMA (b), 2.22g
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SAYH AL UHAYMIR 001, L4/5, Oman, 35.22 gram
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Very Rare and Beautiful, NWA 801, CR2, 3.64g
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Beautiful (New), -NWA 5526, L3, 40.46 gram
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Extremely Rare-WABAR, Saudi Arabia, 1.66 g
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Superb CAMEL DONGA, Eucrite, Oriented, 21g
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Michael Cottingham





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Re: [meteorite-list] Munich Friday-Evening Fliegerbraeu

2009-10-28 Thread Peter Davidson
Martin and others 

I will try and get to the dinner. See you there

Mit besten Wünschen aus Schottland

Peter Davidson
Curator of Minerals
 
National Museums Collection Centre
National Museums Scotland
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
Phone: +44 131 247 4283
p.david...@nms.ac.uk
www.nms.ac.uk
 
 
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From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Martin Altmann
Sent: 27 October 2009 19:15
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Munich Friday-Evening Fliegerbraeu

...takes place, as every year.

Friday,  8 p.m. after the show,
in the Fleagerbroy in the nearby village Feldkirchen.

Fliegerbräu
Sonnenstrasse 2
85622 Feldkirchen-Riem

http://www.fliegerbraeu.de


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Hall A5  booth A5.252,

where you can also inspect our newest planetary sensation!



See you soon!

Martin & Stefan


Martin Altmann & Stefan Ralew
Chladni's Heirs
Munich - Berlin
Fine Meteorites for Science & Collectors 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Secret Find/Fall Coordinates and Legitimacy - Someone help me understand this.

2009-10-28 Thread Beda Hofmann

Hi list

The NWA case clearly shows why coordinates are important. Many paired  
NWA's are classified by different researchers (not always arriving at  
the same verdict). This makes the situation confusing and, above all,  
it is a waste of effort. With coordinates, it would be easy to find  
out which stones belong together, and which are not.


I agree that for a scientific study of an interesting special  
meteorite, it does not matter much where it was found. But if more of  
the same stuff turns up, you want to know if it was found together  
with your special sample, or whether it is a different fall.


Best regards

Beda 
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