Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
This is very sad news. I once had the pleasure to meet Christian in Vienna, along with other meteorite collector friends from Austria, for a visit of the great museum of natural history there, and I met and talked to him several times at the Ensisheim and Munich shows. He was a warm-hearted, very friendly man and an avid, knowledgable collector with a very big passion for our hobby. We will truly miss him! RIP, Christian! Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:56:42 EST > Von: impact...@aol.com > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > CC: h63str...@aol.com > Betreff: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > > > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert > meteorite > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, > and > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little > girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much > happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but > a > friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had > so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material > back > into the car sunday afternoon. > This was the last time I saw him. > > True friendship never ends.. > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Hello, I just read this sad news on meteoritelist and am When I went into meteorites and visited for the first time Ensisheim show, Christian was one of the first person I met there and I learned a lot from him about meteorites. He was a cool guy and passionate about meteorites. A real missing, all my condolences to his family. Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
In a message dated 1/13/2010 10:34:37 PM Mountain Standard Time, meteoritefin...@yahoo.com writes: My sincere condolences go out to Christian's family and close ones. It is very apparent that Christian's kindness and warm personality touched many lives, and those that were, are better for it. I often thought to myself of the irony that the English "translation" of his last name could NOT have been more opposite his true nature. He will truly be missed. Sincerely, Robert Woolard Hello Robert and all, >From an ancient German French Dictionary I have here, "Anger" meant meadow or pasture. A much more peaceful, pleasant, and appropriate meaning. Maybe someone from across the Atlantic can come up with a better tranlation. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Very sad news this morning. I cant belive... I know Christian since many years from the Ensisheim and Munich Shows as a very friendly guy and keen collector. Once he visited us in Augsburg. He was good fellow and excellent meteorite expert. Our sincere condolences go to his family and close friends. We will never forget him. Dieter Heinlein __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientists Publish 1st Ever Evidence of Asteroids with Earth-like Crust
Not sure if I missed this on here, very nice read! http://www.newsdesk.umd.edu/scitech/release.cfm?ArticleID=1812 part of the story: "Scientists Publish 1st Ever Evidence of Asteroids with Earth-like Crust. COLLEGE PARK, Md. - Two rare meteorites found in Antarctica two years ago are from a previously unknown, ancient asteroid with an outer layer or crust similar in composition to the crust of Earth's continents, reports a research team primarily composed of geochemists from the University of Maryland. Published in the January 8 issue of the journal Nature, this is the first ever finding of material from an asteroid with a crust like Earth's. The discovery also represents the oldest example of rock with this composition ever found. These meteorites point "to previously unrecognized diversity" of materials formed early in the history of the Solar System, write authors James Day, Richard Ash, Jeremy Bellucci, William McDonough and Richard Walker of the University of Maryland; Yang Liu and Lawrence Taylor of the University of Tennessee and Douglas Rumble III of the Carnegie Institution for Science. "What is most unusual about these rocks is that they have compositions similar to Earth's andesite continental crust -- what the rock beneath our feet is made of," said first author Day, who is a research scientist in Maryland's department of geology. "No meteorites like this have ever been seen before." Day explained that his team focused their investigations on how such different Solar System bodies could have crusts with such similar compositions. "We show that this occurred because of limited melting of the asteroid, and thus illustrate that the formation of andesite crust has occurred in our solar system by processes other than plate tectonics, which is the generally accepted process that created the crust of Earth." __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Oh my God...I just remember I have speack with Christian months ago for trade on a meteorite, and now he is not more heremy condolences to the family if in delay... Matteo - Original Message - Da : impact...@aol.com A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Data : Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:56:42 EST > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very > sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, > he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly > guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near > Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two > little girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in > Ensisheim, in much happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our > good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very > heavy car accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only > a collector but a friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show > , because he had so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich > that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening > at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday > afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back > into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I > saw him. > > True friendship never ends.. > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.org Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Very very sad news this morning ! The most kind person was whom I knew in the passion of meteorites. One of the first persons that I had met the first time when I was at the ensisheim show. All my condolences and all my sympathy to the members of his family. Christian, we shall not forget you. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
My sincere condolences go out to Christian's family and close ones. It is very apparent that Christian's kindness and warm personality touched many lives, and those that were, are better for it. I often thought to myself of the irony that the English "translation" of his last name could NOT have been more opposite his true nature. He will truly be missed. Sincerely, Robert Woolard --- On Wed, 1/13/10, impact...@aol.com wrote: > From: impact...@aol.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Cc: h63str...@aol.com > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 4:56 PM > > > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very > sad news. > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an > expert meteorite > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was > an Engineer, and > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife > and two little > girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in > Ensisheim, in much > happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ > (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our > good friend > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car > accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a > collector but a > friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, > because he had > so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich > that he decided to > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu > and stayed in > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of > my material back > into the car sunday afternoon. > This was the last time I saw him. > > True friendship never ends.. > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Thoughts and prayers go out to Christian and his family. We're all lined up right behind him folks. We never know when. Make the most of our short time here. Best wishes to all. Linton - Original Message - From: To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.137/2617 - Release Date: 01/12/10 19:35:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
Hi, Larry, Chris, List, I was thinking, for "heavy object in a meteoroid stream," the 1975 impact on the Moon that was detected by seismograph experiment left behind by one of the Apollo missions (15?). It was at the June 30 peak of the diffuse beta Taurids and has been interpreted as one of them. The seismograph record covered 1972-1978, and the 1975 impact corresponded that of a 2.5-ton object, the biggest impact recorded by those seismographs on the Moon. Oh God, I'm going to have to document this, aren't I? Of course, it could have been a sporadic with the signature of a beta Taurid, but I think that's stretching coincidence. The five day bracket June 28-July 2, 1975, recorded more one-ton objects slamming into the Moon than the entire remainder of the total seven-year record. A-ha! There it is: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1978LPSC9.3615D/0003615.000.html So, yes, I'd have to say there are heavy objects embedded in "meteoroid streams." Does something as heavy as two 1975 Volkswagens count as "heavy"? Would you be convinced if it had been as heavy as a Lincoln Town Car? It was! (Wikipedia says 1970's Town Cars weighted "4500 to 5300 lb (2000 to 2400 kg)") I stand my ground. If it's as heavy as a Lincoln Town Car... it's heavy. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: To: "Sterling K. Webb" Cc: ; "Chris Peterson" ; "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:09 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth Hi Sterling: Yes, it is not uncommon for definitions to be, unfortunately for the general public, to be in the context of who is studying what. Cratering people do not necessarily care what caused the impact (asteroid or comet) other than in the modeling that includes parameters such as density, etc. In the case of Meteor Crater, the only reason that we have meteorites (according to the work of Melosh and others) was probably due to the original body breaking up prior to impact. If I remember correctly, about 50% broke off the orginal body, giving us the meteorites, and 50% stayed in one piece and made a big hole (being totally vaporized in the process). One flaw in your example in a meteor stream is that there is nothing that big. You may get very bright fireballs (bolides), but nothing starts out big enough to make it to the ground. It is all small stuff (as far as we know). LArry Hi, Larry, Chris, List, In many ways, this mess is about the "terms of the trade." It is essential that those working in a specific specialty understand what each other mean when they discuss the subject. The use of "the terms impactors and bolides for the things that make holes in the ground," as Larry called it, makes discussion quick and effective for those with a "planetary science" perspective. Chris' "meteoroid => meteor => meteorite," pretty much the same as my first definition, is -- yes -- non-IAU-compliant, but from the viewpoint of the study of meteoritic fall, it is clear and effective terminology, well understood. Those who study "meteor showers" use the term meteoroid as a generic for all the objects contained within a given "meteoroid stream," even if the object weighs many tons and is really big enough to be technically an "asteroid." If it's in a "meteoroid stream," it must be a meteoroid, right? In the real world the working vocabulary is, in practice, determined by those that do common work, for their own use. But it can't be a "private language'" That's where the IAU (should) come in. Opinions may vary on how well they do that job. The Big Iron that made Meteor Crater is too big to qualify for "meteoroid." It has to be called an asteroid. Even the original body of Sikhote-Alin was too big to be a meteoroid. So we have asteroids that make meteorites. Even 2008 TC3 was meteoroid by size but asteroid by designation. The entire classification system of meteorites has as one major purpose identifying the parent body in the "Asteroid Zone." Tracking the origin of "meteoroids" that result in meteorites has, so far, always traced them back to Main Belt asteroids. And while we often don't know the original mass of most objects that result in found meteorites, most of the smallish bodies we call meteoroids are too small to result in meteorites... It could therefore be more common to get meteorites from asteroids, and meteoroids may not produce very many meteorites. Something about that terminology bothers me. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: To: "Sterling K. Webb" Cc: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth Hi all again: Those who study impacts on Earth and other bodies tend to use the terms impactors and bol
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Mit Erschuetterung haben wir von Christian's ploetzlichem und viel zu fruehem Ableben erfahren. Wir haben einen guten Freund verloren, er wird in unserer Gemeinschaft sehr vermisst werden. Christian, Deiner Familie, der nahen und erweiterten Verwandtschaft sowie allen Freunden und Bekannten moechten wir hiermit unser aufrichtiges Beleid bekunden. Moege unser Herrgott allen Trost und Kraft verleihen, ueber diesen so tragischen Verlust hinweg zu kommen. Wir werden uns gern an unser Treffen in Muenchen erinnern. Mit ganz lieben Gruessen von der anderen Seite des Globus', aus Melbourne, Australien, Norbert und Heike Kammel IMCA # 3420 www.rocksonfire.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
We will all miss Christian. Our condolences to his family. Larry and Nancy Lebofsky __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I never had the chance to meet him and from the comments I have read, I am sad that I did not. I also would like to join in and extend my best wishes to his friends and family. Greg C. --- On Wed, 1/13/10, Walter Branch wrote: > From: Walter Branch > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 9:45 PM > This is sad news, indeed. I > only knew Christian through email correspondence. He > was always a pleasant person with which to talk about > anything meteoritical. His presence here on the list > will surely be missed. My only regret is that I never met > him in person. My sincere condolences go out to his > family. > > Life itself is a wonderful thing, made better by the > friends we cherish while we live our lives, and those we > leave behind when we pass on. > > -Walter Branch > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Although I did not know him personally but my deepest condolences go to his family. A very sad day Tom Randall __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
This is sad news, indeed. I only knew Christian through email correspondence. He was always a pleasant person with which to talk about anything meteoritical. His presence here on the list will surely be missed. My only regret is that I never met him in person. My sincere condolences go out to his family. Life itself is a wonderful thing, made better by the friends we cherish while we live our lives, and those we leave behind when we pass on. -Walter Branch __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Dear Anne and list, What terribly sad news. Such a tragedy for the family. My deepest sympathies. I only saw Christian a couple of times at Ensisheim but he always had a smile for everyone. And I too remember the photograph of you both dancing in the square...I think Peter Marmet took the photo of such happy times. Here at the bottom of the page... http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://imca.cc/insights/2006/II07-img/image007.jpg&imgrefurl=http://imca.cc/insights/2006/IMCA-Insights07.htm&usg=__js95WHvcXOdKFL0lDBsS-81MMzA=&h=534&w=400&sz=30&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=49ogxUHbaHjrvM:&tbnh=132&tbnw=99&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchristian%2Banger%2Bensisheim%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1 Graham Ensor > > > > --Original Message-- > > From: impact...@aol.com > > Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Cc: h63str...@aol.com > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > > Sent: Jan 13, 2010 3:56 PM > > > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. > > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite > > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and > > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little > > girls. > > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much > > happier times. > > > > Anne M. Black > > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > > _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > > > Hello Anne, > > > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend > > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. > > > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a > > friend. > > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had > > so many private problems in his mind. > > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to > > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in > > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material > > back > > into the car sunday afternoon. > > This was the last time I saw him. > > > > True friendship never ends.. > > > > Hanno Strufe > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > -- > > Matt Morgan > > Mile High Meteorites > > http://www.mhmeteorites.com > > P.O. Box 151293 > > Lakewood, CO 80215 USA > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I barely know any of the people in the meteorite community, so I never had the pleasure of meeting Christian. Having said that, I extend my condolences to those who were close to him. It's always so very sad to hear news like this. Greg Lindh > From: impact...@aol.com > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:56:42 -0500 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > CC: h63str...@aol.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > > > > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little > girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much > happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a > friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had > so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back > into the car sunday afternoon. > This was the last time I saw him. > > True friendship never ends.. > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Christian was one of those guys you just loved to hear from, he had that same giddy fondness we all have in common. A light has gone out for all who knew him and those who never will. To his closer family and friends I offer my thanks for sharing him with us. Sleep well my friend, Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/nakhladog -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Very distressing news. I knew from all of the posts that something must have happened to Christian before even clicking on one of them. I always thought of Christian as an energetic, friendly and gracious person. It is obvious that he has touched a lot other people in the meteorite community and he will be sorely missed. He was one of those collectors that make chasing these objects enjoyable. He never failed to demonstrate genuine enthusiasm for any meteorite regardless of were it was found. It makes me ponder my own mortality when someone like Christian who was always full of life was taken so soon. My condolences to his friends and family. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Hello to everyone, While I had never met Christian Anger, I did hear his name mentioned by others in their emails to this list, and these messages were always favorable. I also did enjoy Christian's email letters to the list. His family, friends, and the meteorite community as a whole have truly experienced a tragic loss. My thoughts and prayers are with Christian's family and friends. I wish that I could have known him personally as well. Ed Deckert - Original Message - From: To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives..html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14120 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.14120 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian
Christian was a great guy. I met him many times in Europe and he attended the Tucson show once. Mike Farmer and I visited him in Vienna once and his hospitality was second to none. He took time off from work to show us around Vienna and we spent some time relaxing in the evenings in the cafes. Good Times for sure. He will be sorely missed. My sincere condolences to his family and friends. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Once Jim Kriegh and I were on a shuttle van leaving the Innsuites, on our way to see Sylvia and Erich H. at their hotel and a smiling young man on the van asked if we were Jim and Twink! He had recognized us from a photo or video and it was so nice to spend quite a bit of time with him at that show. We always hoped he would come back to Tucson. Larry and I send condolences to his family. Christian thought it interesting that he, Jim and Larry were all engineers. Twink Monrad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I've made a few trips through Vienna on my travels. These notes are excerpted from a 2005 trip: "This is at least the 3rd time I've been in Vienna, so instead of taking the scheduled sight-seeing, I'm meeting friends: Christian Anger and Erich Haiderer. It's my first time to meet Christian. He picked me up at the hotel at 8AM. It is only half an hour from his home. Then we had a look at his collection (as I said it's only half an hour away from my hotel) and I met some of his family. Then we went to see some historical places from the ancient Roman Empire (Carnuntum legion camp). After lunch, we were back between 12:00 and 12:30 into Vienna and went to the NHM Vienna to see the Vienna Meteorite Collection. Later we met Erich and spent the rest of the day with him. When we finished our day, Christian brought me back to my hotel. Summary: Fantastic day. " Unfortunately this turned out to be the only time I had to meet Christian, but I'm very fortunate to have had at least this opportunity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I too did not have the pleasure of knowing Christian, but he was obviously a kind and wonderful person. A man with many, many friends, he will be missed. My sincere condolences to his family. Rest in Pease, Christian. Dave Carothers - Original Message - On 1/13/2010 2:56 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Thank you Anne and Hanno for letting us know about Christian. He was a great guy and a gentleman. He was one of the first collectors that I purchased meteorites from and then sold him some of mine. He was always pleasant and never pushy. My heart goes out to his family. I thought of him over the holidays and now I think back that it was probably a reminder to check up on him. I'm sorry I didn't contact him before. He will be greatly missed. We have lost a great friend and a great collector. Brian __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Wow. What a shock. I havent had a friend that close pass away since I was 17. Christian once gave me an ancient Roman coin that he had found himself just as a gift. Going to be a big empty space in Ensisheim and Munich from now on thats for sure. RIP my friend DEAN --- On Wed, 13/1/10, Sergey Vasiliev wrote: > From: Sergey Vasiliev > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > To: impact...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Cc: h63str...@aol.com > Received: Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 4:54 PM > Hello list, > > I've got a personal email from Harald about Christian this > morning... > My day was all about my memory of Christian only... > > We (Christian and me) where (still are so far) about the > same age > > I asked Harald: "Let me know if I can help somehow"? He > didn't say a word so > far. > > This auction: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190363386113 > It was a Christian's stone I bought in Munich 2009... > > Everything over $3500.00 will be transferred to... > Harald, just let me know where I should transfer the diff > it in case of > sale. > > Time to sleep (or try to sleep), > Sergey > > > > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on > Behalf Of > impact...@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:57 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Cc: h63str...@aol.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > > > > > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very > sad news. > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an > expert meteorite > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was > an Engineer, and > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife > and two little > girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in > Ensisheim, in much > happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ > (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our > good friend > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car > accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a > collector but a > friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, > because he had > so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich > that he decided to > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu > and stayed in > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of > my material back > into the car sunday afternoon. > This was the last time I saw him. > > True friendship never ends... > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I, too, had many dealings with Christian over the years. His presence in the meteoritic community will be greatly missed. My heartfelt condolences to all those who grieve his loss. Paul Martyn Savannah, GA In a message dated 1/13/2010 6:15:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, m...@mhmeteorites.com writes: This is terrible news. Christian was one of my first customers (and a very good one) in 1996. We never met in person but exchanged messages countless times. He was one of the most astute collectors I have ever know. I will miss him. Matt --Original Message-- From: impact...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Sent: Jan 13, 2010 3:56 PM Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] christian anger
hi all my sincere condoleances to anger's family, he was a good man, i was sleeping on my labtop and i wake up with those email; realy sad i realy hope his family will be ok my sincere condoleances aziz habibi __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ok I have homes for the 4 Brenham slices
Hi all I have 4 homes for the slices, Thanks to everyone who chimed in. If you are interested in the results I might be able to set up a list to share the results with you all. Let me know if you would like to be on that list. 2 are from Hawaii one from Florida and one from Georiga. -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Hello list, I've got a personal email from Harald about Christian this morning... My day was all about my memory of Christian only... We (Christian and me) where (still are so far) about the same age... I asked Harald: "Let me know if I can help somehow"? He didn't say a word so far. This auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190363386113 It was a Christian's stone I bought in Munich 2009... Everything over $3500.00 will be transferred to... Harald, just let me know where I should transfer the diff it in case of sale. Time to sleep (or try to sleep), Sergey From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com]on Behalf Of impact...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:57 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Such sad news Though I never had the privilege of meeting him.. My deepest sympathies go out to Christian's family in this hard time. Regards, Eric On 1/13/2010 2:56 PM, impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Wow, I cant belive !! New year and such terrible news. I know him from many years from Ensisheim and Munich. He was good man and excelent collector. Its really sad. :( -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger and Meteorites
Thank you. Thank you for all the many emails of sympathy, I am sure that his family and his many friends in Germany and Austria do appreciate your thoughts. For all of you who did not realluy know Christian and the collection of Meteorites he was very proud of, here is a quick page I put together with a couple pictures (thank you John K.): _www.impactika.com/canger.doc_ (http://www.impactika.com/canger.doc) I am sure Hanno, Mirko, Peter will have a lot more pictures they might want to post again. Anne M. Black http://www.impactika.com/ impact...@aol.com Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. http://www.imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
It is a tragedy, which leaves us without words. Martin and Stefan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von impact...@aol.com Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Januar 2010 23:57 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Betreff: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Haiti Relief Auction?
Here's a past model: http://www.aerolite.org/events/meteorite-raffle.htm -Martin On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > Hi List, > > The extent of the devastation in Haiti is great and it makes whatever > problems most of us have pale by comparison. If anyone is planning > some kind of relief auction or sale, I would gladly donate a few > specimens with the proceeds to go to the disaster relief. I don't > have any high dollar pieces to donate (mostly small stuff like > micros), but anything would probably help. I have my hands and plate > full with my wife's medical problems at the moment, so I don't have > the time to organize or host such an auction/sale, but I'll definitely > donate something. > > Best regards and happy hunting, > > MikeG > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Europe has lost a leading and highly respected collector. Our hearts go out to the loved ones he leaves behind. Jan & Yvonne, Holland - Original Message - From: "Dark Matter" To: Cc: ; Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Christian was giant in our midst. I am honored to have spent time talking with him over the years. Although I never met him in person, our meteorite paths crossed so many times that I would routinely consult him about historic specimens and the excitement of the hunt. Here is a link to an Accretion Desk article where Christian and I shared some of that excitement. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2006/July/Accretion_Desk.htm When the Meteorite Times published a new issue, like clockwork I would get an email from Christian comparing notes about the specimen I highlighted. Here is his last email to me sent three days before his death: December 11, 2009 Hello Martin, Truly, a super meteorite. I love it too. Attached is a pic of my collection specimen 9.754 grams. Best regards, Christian Ing. Christian Anger Neustiftgasse 37 A-2405 Bad Deutsch Altenburg AUSTRIA You were a true gentleman and scholar of our sport. I will miss you. Good-bye Christian. Most sincerely, Martin Horejsi __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.138/2618 - Release Date: 01/13/10 07:35:00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Christian Anger had bought several things from me years ago. He always had a smile of his face in every picture I seen with him You just never know what the future holds, It makes me grateful to be alive. I will miss seeing all the pictures he would take of the Munich meteorite show. My heart goes out to his family, a great loss Sincerely, Tim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Collectors wanted in humid areas/// first come first served
Hi all I have 4 specially coated Brenham pallasite slices. I am looking for collectors in very high humidity areas who normally might stay away from pallasites because of their climate. I already have one headed to Malaysia and would like to have some in other hi humidity areas. The only condition is that once a month or so for the next year or so you send me a quick email to let me know if the piece has shown any rust. These are small slices 10 to 16 grams and will be given to collectors in high humidity areas who are willing to send me that email once a month. -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
I am very sad to hear this terrible news. Christian was one of the most pleasant people to be around, full of cheer and an ever-lasting smile. I met him for the first time when he attended the Tucson Show around 2002. I again had the pleasure to meet up with him in Ensisheim a few years ago. My most sincere condolences go out to his family. He will be greatly missed! Greg Hupe - Original Message - From: To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Christian was giant in our midst. I am honored to have spent time talking with him over the years. Although I never met him in person, our meteorite paths crossed so many times that I would routinely consult him about historic specimens and the excitement of the hunt. Here is a link to an Accretion Desk article where Christian and I shared some of that excitement. http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2006/July/Accretion_Desk.htm When the Meteorite Times published a new issue, like clockwork I would get an email from Christian comparing notes about the specimen I highlighted. Here is his last email to me sent three days before his death: December 11, 2009 Hello Martin, Truly, a super meteorite. I love it too. Attached is a pic of my collection specimen 9.754 grams. Best regards, Christian Ing. Christian Anger Neustiftgasse 37 A-2405 Bad Deutsch Altenburg AUSTRIA You were a true gentleman and scholar of our sport. I will miss you. Good-bye Christian. Most sincerely, Martin Horejsi __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Haiti Relief Auction?
Hi List, The extent of the devastation in Haiti is great and it makes whatever problems most of us have pale by comparison. If anyone is planning some kind of relief auction or sale, I would gladly donate a few specimens with the proceeds to go to the disaster relief. I don't have any high dollar pieces to donate (mostly small stuff like micros), but anything would probably help. I have my hands and plate full with my wife's medical problems at the moment, so I don't have the time to organize or host such an auction/sale, but I'll definitely donate something. Best regards and happy hunting, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Oh my Tragic news indeed. Christian was a good man...with heartfelt condolences to his family. Darryl On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:20 PM, tett wrote: What terrible news! Christian and I have sold meteorites to each other and it was always fun corresponding with him. I am so sorry that I have not been able to take up his offer of a beer in Austria during one of my visits there. I have family living close by in Tirol and one day I would have loved to meet him in person when visiting there. Mike Tettenborn --Original Message-- From: impact...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Sent: Jan 13, 2010 3:56 PM Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
My heart breaks for his family, they have lost a wonderful person. I will continue to pray for them during this difficult time. Sincerely, Jason Phillips --- On Wed, 1/13/10, tracy latimer wrote: > From: tracy latimer > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Wednesday, January 13, 2010, 5:59 PM > > That's terrible! My heart goes out to his surviving > family. > > (not Best!) > Tracy Latimer > > > > From: impact...@aol.com > > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:56:42 -0500 > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > CC: h63str...@aol.com > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > > > > > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with > very sad news. > > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he > was an expert meteorite > > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he > was an Engineer, and > > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an > (ex)wife and two little > > girls. > > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in > Ensisheim, in much > > happier times. > > > > Anne M. Black > > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > > _impact...@aol.com_ > (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > > > Hello Anne, > > > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that > our good friend > > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car > accident and he died. > > > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not > only a collector but a > > friend. > > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were > togheter. > > We had also other private contact and were real > friends. > > > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich > show, because he had > > so many private problems in his mind. > > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in > Munich that he decided to > > come. So he was with us friday evening at the > Fliegerbräu and stayed in > > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring > some of my material back > > into the car sunday afternoon. > > This was the last time I saw him. > > > > True friendship never ends.. > > > > Hanno Strufe > > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at > > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > _ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
What terrible news! Christian and I have sold meteorites to each other and it was always fun corresponding with him. I am so sorry that I have not been able to take up his offer of a beer in Austria during one of my visits there. I have family living close by in Tirol and one day I would have loved to meet him in person when visiting there. Mike Tettenborn --Original Message-- From: impact...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Sent: Jan 13, 2010 3:56 PM Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Dear Anne and List: I was really shocked to read this news, especially since Christian always looked so youthful and well dressed. He was a very friendly and charming gentleman. My sincere condolences to the Anger family and Christian's many friends in Europe. What a sad loss. Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
This is terrible news. Christian was one of my first customers (and a very good one) in 1996. We never met in person but exchanged messages countless times. He was one of the most astute collectors I have ever know. I will miss him. Matt --Original Message-- From: impact...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Sent: Jan 13, 2010 3:56 PM Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
This is shocking and sad news indeed. Please give his family our deepest sympathies. Though I never met Christian in person, I always enjoyed our email correspondence and meteorite chats. He will be deeply missed. Mike Bandli -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of impact...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:57 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: h63str...@aol.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
Hi Sterling: Yes, it is not uncommon for definitions to be, unfortunately for the general public, to be in the context of who is studying what. Cratering people do not necessarily care what caused the impact (asteroid or comet) other than in the modeling that includes parameters such as density, etc. In the case of Meteor Crater, the only reason that we have meteorites (according to the work of Melosh and others) was probably due to the original body breaking up prior to impact. If I remember correctly, about 50% broke off the orginal body, giving us the meteorites, and 50% stayed in one piece and made a big hole (being totally vaporized in the process). One flaw in your example in a meteor stream is that there is nothing that big. You may get very bright fireballs (bolides), but nothing starts out big enough to make it to the ground. It is all small stuff (as far as we know). LArry > Hi, Larry, Chris, List, > > In many ways, this mess is about the "terms > of the trade." It is essential that those working > in a specific specialty understand what each > other mean when they discuss the subject. > > The use of "the terms impactors and bolides > for the things that make holes in the ground," > as Larry called it, makes discussion quick and > effective for those with a "planetary science" > perspective. > > Chris' "meteoroid => meteor => meteorite," pretty > much the same as my first definition, is -- yes -- > non-IAU-compliant, but from the viewpoint of the > study of meteoritic fall, it is clear and effective > terminology, well understood. > > Those who study "meteor showers" use the term > meteoroid as a generic for all the objects contained > within a given "meteoroid stream," even if the object > weighs many tons and is really big enough to be > technically an "asteroid." If it's in a "meteoroid > stream," it must be a meteoroid, right? > > In the real world the working vocabulary is, in > practice, determined by those that do common > work, for their own use. But it can't be a "private > language'" That's where the IAU (should) come in. > Opinions may vary on how well they do that job. > > The Big Iron that made Meteor Crater is too big to > qualify for "meteoroid." It has to be called an asteroid. > Even the original body of Sikhote-Alin was too big > to be a meteoroid. So we have asteroids that make > meteorites. Even 2008 TC3 was meteoroid by size > but asteroid by designation. The entire classification > system of meteorites has as one major purpose > identifying the parent body in the "Asteroid Zone." > Tracking the origin of "meteoroids" that result in > meteorites has, so far, always traced them back to > Main Belt asteroids. > > And while we often don't know the original mass of > most objects that result in found meteorites, most of > the smallish bodies we call meteoroids are too small to > result in meteorites... > > It could therefore be more common to get meteorites > from asteroids, and meteoroids may not produce very > many meteorites. > > Something about that terminology bothers me. > > > Sterling K. Webb > > - Original Message - > From: > To: "Sterling K. Webb" > Cc: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:02 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past > TheEarth > > > Hi all again: > > Those who study impacts on Earth and other bodies tend to use the terms > impactors and bolides for the things that make holes in the ground but > too > big leave any meteorite. This gets around the asteroid/comet problem. > > I just got this from WIkipedia (same article that Sterling used?: > > "Bolide: > > The word bolide comes from the Greek âïëéò, (bolis) which can mean a > missile or to flash. The IAU has no official definition of bolide and > generally considers the term synonymous with fireball. The bolide term > is > generally used for fireballs reaching magnitude -14 or brighter.[8] The > term is more often used among geologists than astronomers where it means > a > very large impactor. For example, the USGS uses the term to mean a > generic > large crater-forming projectile "to imply that we do not know the > precise > nature of the impacting body ... whether it is a rocky or metallic > asteroid, or an icy comet,... Astronomers tend to use the term to mean > an > exceptionally bright fireball, particularly one that explodes (sometimes > called a detonating fireball)." > > I do not remember in all the emails I read this morning someone asking > about the dark phase. Since the definition of a meteoroid is an object > in > an independent orbit aroung the Sun, once it is in the dark phase, it is > no longer in an independent orbit and is probably going to survive and > so > might as well be called a meteorite. I have always said that the rocky > bit > that causes a meteor is a meteoroid (which we cannot see). > > I tell kids that if you can see the thing that
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
This is terrible news. My sincerest condolences go out to his family and friends. :( On 1/13/10, impact...@aol.com wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little > girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much > happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a > friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had > so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back > into the car sunday afternoon. > This was the last time I saw him. > > True friendship never ends.. > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger
That's terrible! My heart goes out to his surviving family. (not Best!) Tracy Latimer > From: impact...@aol.com > Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:56:42 -0500 > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > CC: h63str...@aol.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Christian Anger > > > > Hello everybody, > > I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. > For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite > collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and > lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little > girls. > And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much > happier times. > > Anne M. Black > _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) > _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) > Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. > _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) > > Hello Anne, > > today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend > Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. > > I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a > friend. > Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. > We had also other private contact and were real friends. > > At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had > so many private problems in his mind. > Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to > come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in > Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back > into the car sunday afternoon. > This was the last time I saw him. > > True friendship never ends.. > > Hanno Strufe > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Christian Anger
Hello everybody, I just received this email (below) from Hanno, with very sad news. For all of you who did not know Christian Anger, he was an expert meteorite collector and a very friendly guy. In his real life he was an Engineer, and lived near Vienna, Austria. He leaves behind an (ex)wife and two little girls. And I still remember when we were waltzing together in Ensisheim, in much happier times. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) Hello Anne, today I received an email from Harald Stehlik, that our good friend Christian Anger had on 14.dec 2009 a very heavy car accident and he died. I am very shocked and sad, because Christian was not only a collector but a friend. Everybody know how much fun we had when we were togheter. We had also other private contact and were real friends. At first he told me that he cannot come to the Munich show, because he had so many private problems in his mind. Then he called me thursday evening when I was in Munich that he decided to come. So he was with us friday evening at the Fliegerbräu and stayed in Munich till sunday afternoon. He helped me to bring some of my material back into the car sunday afternoon. This was the last time I saw him. True friendship never ends.. Hanno Strufe __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
Hi, Larry, Chris, List, In many ways, this mess is about the "terms of the trade." It is essential that those working in a specific specialty understand what each other mean when they discuss the subject. The use of "the terms impactors and bolides for the things that make holes in the ground," as Larry called it, makes discussion quick and effective for those with a "planetary science" perspective. Chris' "meteoroid => meteor => meteorite," pretty much the same as my first definition, is -- yes -- non-IAU-compliant, but from the viewpoint of the study of meteoritic fall, it is clear and effective terminology, well understood. Those who study "meteor showers" use the term meteoroid as a generic for all the objects contained within a given "meteoroid stream," even if the object weighs many tons and is really big enough to be technically an "asteroid." If it's in a "meteoroid stream," it must be a meteoroid, right? In the real world the working vocabulary is, in practice, determined by those that do common work, for their own use. But it can't be a "private language'" That's where the IAU (should) come in. Opinions may vary on how well they do that job. The Big Iron that made Meteor Crater is too big to qualify for "meteoroid." It has to be called an asteroid. Even the original body of Sikhote-Alin was too big to be a meteoroid. So we have asteroids that make meteorites. Even 2008 TC3 was meteoroid by size but asteroid by designation. The entire classification system of meteorites has as one major purpose identifying the parent body in the "Asteroid Zone." Tracking the origin of "meteoroids" that result in meteorites has, so far, always traced them back to Main Belt asteroids. And while we often don't know the original mass of most objects that result in found meteorites, most of the smallish bodies we call meteoroids are too small to result in meteorites... It could therefore be more common to get meteorites from asteroids, and meteoroids may not produce very many meteorites. Something about that terminology bothers me. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: To: "Sterling K. Webb" Cc: "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth Hi all again: Those who study impacts on Earth and other bodies tend to use the terms impactors and bolides for the things that make holes in the ground but too big leave any meteorite. This gets around the asteroid/comet problem. I just got this from WIkipedia (same article that Sterling used?: "Bolide: The word bolide comes from the Greek âïëéò, (bolis) which can mean a missile or to flash. The IAU has no official definition of bolide and generally considers the term synonymous with fireball. The bolide term is generally used for fireballs reaching magnitude -14 or brighter.[8] The term is more often used among geologists than astronomers where it means a very large impactor. For example, the USGS uses the term to mean a generic large crater-forming projectile "to imply that we do not know the precise nature of the impacting body ... whether it is a rocky or metallic asteroid, or an icy comet,... Astronomers tend to use the term to mean an exceptionally bright fireball, particularly one that explodes (sometimes called a detonating fireball)." I do not remember in all the emails I read this morning someone asking about the dark phase. Since the definition of a meteoroid is an object in an independent orbit aroung the Sun, once it is in the dark phase, it is no longer in an independent orbit and is probably going to survive and so might as well be called a meteorite. I have always said that the rocky bit that causes a meteor is a meteoroid (which we cannot see). I tell kids that if you can see the thing that is causing the meteor/fireball---duck! Now, since I have not had my morning coffee (mentioned this to Sterling), the problem with the IAU definition is that it states that a "meteoriod is significantly smaller than an asteroid." If that is true, what is between a large meteoroid and a small asteroid? A dwarf asteroid (sorry, need my coffee)! Now, in support of the IAU and my concern with the proposed Royal Astronomical Society definition is that we are observing things smaller than 10 meters and those are given asteroid designations, they are asteroids. There is no IAU meteroid nomenclature committee! I think that you need the line between large meteoroid and small asteroid to be left "fuzzy." Define a meteoriod as up to 10 meters, but if it is close enough to the Earth and it gets detected and given a designaton/name then it becomes (reclassified as) an asteroid. This makes sense from the perspective that, when we learn more about something, its designation can change (such as large Trans Neptunian Objects becoming dwarf planets as our knowled
[meteorite-list] Fw: Re: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13, 2010
-Forwarded Message- >From: countde...@earthlink.net >Sent: Jan 13, 2010 11:44 AM >To: Joe Kerchner , meteorite list > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January >13, 2010 > >Pete and List, > >Demonstrating the value and enjoyment of examining stones..instead of throwing >them..Commendable! > >Realizing that the inability to hear would not be a handicap to becoming a >professional meteoriticist...as so far meteorites don't make a sound. >Brilliant! > >A big hug from an appreciative father and grandfather, > >Guido > >-Original Message- >>From: Joe Kerchner >>Sent: Jan 13, 2010 10:51 AM >>To: meteorite list >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January >>13, 2010 >> >>Keep up the great work Pete. With more people doing stuff like that we will >>undoubtedly have more members in the meteorite community when all these kids >>grow up. Some may even find some new finds due to the education of people >>like you. Good job Pete. >>Best, >>Joe Kerchner >>http://illinoismeteorites.com >>http://skyrockcafe.com >> >> >> >>- Original Message >>From: Michael Johnson >>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 11:15:43 PM >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13, >>2010 >> >>http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Jamuary_13_2010.html >> >>__ >>Visit the Archives at >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> >> >> >>__ >>Visit the Archives at >>http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites USA Article: 3 Mar s Meteorites Could Contain “Proof of Life” Says NASA
Hi List, All, Here's a quick article I wrote on the Mars meteorites evidence of life. I also threw in some videos for your viewing pleasure. 3 Mars Meteorites Could Be “Proof of Life” http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorite-articles/3-mars-meteorites-could-be-proof-of-life-on-mars-says-nasa/ Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA www.meteoritesusa.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] from Bernd who cannot post
Hi Pete, Respect! My hat is off to you!!! .. others have already said so but let me say it again: Keep up the good work! Maybe one of these kids will one day be a number one in the field of Meteoritics and remember how it all started many years ago with *your* presentation! All thumbs up! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13, 2010
Love that Pete...great stuff! Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Johnson Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:16 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13,2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Jamuary_13_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Proof of Life in Three Martian Rocks May Come This Year [POPSCI]
Hi List, Meteorite articles worth a read. Popular Science Article: Proof of Life in Three Martian Rocks May Come This Year [POPSCI] http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-01/proof-life-three-martian-rocks-may-come-year?page= Three Martian meteorites triple evidence for Mars life http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1001/09marslife/ Enjoy... Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA www.meteoritesusa.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 'Meteorite Men' visit Scien ce Café
Way to go Geoff. See you Tucson. Greg S. http://wildcat.arizona.edu/news/meteorite-men-visit-science-cafe-1.1010099 'Meteorite Men' visit Science Café By Luke Money | Published: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 Meteorite Guy Lisa Beth Earle/Arizona Daily Wildcat Geoffrey Notkin, science writer and professional meteorite hunter, demonstrates how to use a magnet to test if a meteorite is real during a Science Café talk at Cushing Street Bar and Restaurant on Tuesday. Notkin spoke about a new show he co-hosts called "Meteorite Men" and answered questions from diners eager to learn more about meteorites. Geoffrey Notkin holds aloft a smooth, polished-looking rock in front of a packed house at the Cushing Street Bar & Restaurant in downtown Tucson on Tuesday night. “Meteorites are my passion,” he says. “I search the surface of the Earth for them; I collect them; I buy, sell, and trade them; I write about them; I make television documentaries about them; and sometimes I even wear one around my neck.” Notkin, the star of “Meteorite Men,” a new series on the Science Channel, was brought to Cushing Street to participate in Science Café, a monthly series of talks sponsored by the Flandrau Science Center at the UA. According to Alexis R. Faust, the executive director of the Flandrau Center, Science Café is a program which seeks to foster academic discussion in an intimate setting. “What we’re trying to do here is get people to talk with, not at, people,” Faust said. Since its inception two years ago, Science Café has gathered scholars and citizens alike to discuss a wide variety of topics from arthritis to the human brain to this most recent presentation on meteorites. Notkin works as a professional meteorite hunter with his partner Steve Arnold, who is the second of the “Meteorite Men.” During their searches, Notkin and Arnold filmed segments about their work for several different television programs before deciding to put together a proposal for a regular series of their own. After several rejections, the series was picked up by the Science Channel and “Meteorite Men” was born. “I always wanted to be in television,” Notkin said. “I thought it would be great fun with all kinds of celebrity parties I could drive to in fancy cars. In fact, I spent the last four months out in the screaming wilderness with a crew of filmmakers.” Notkin realized his passion for meteorites at a young age after numerous childhood trips to the Geological Museum in London with his mother, where he became entranced by the Hall of Meteorites. “I was allowed to go up to them and touch them, all the while expecting some museum guard would come up behind me and say, ‘You can’t touch that, son!’” Notkin said. Notkin’s 15-minute presentation was followed by a question and answer session, which took up the majority of the allotted event time. The assembled crowd of approximately 60 people had no shortage of questions for Notkin and discussion ranged from information about his upcoming show to proof that an audience member’s meteorite was anything but. Faust was unsurprised by the reaction. “There’s a lot of mystique surrounding meteorites,” she said. The Science Café series will continue having monthly presentations until June. The next presentation will be focused on Mars and will be held in conjunction with the Tucson Sky Center on Jan. 29. _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390708/direct/01/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay actions with Russian books and magazines
Hi List, - If you like an old meteorite books, please visit my ebay store to see a new adds I just made. - Big meteorites there too! - Rare falls also! All are here: http://stores.ebay.com/svassiliev Thank you for your time! Sergey Sergey Vasiliev U Dalnice 2684/1 Prague 5, 155 00 Czech Republic --- http://www.sv-meteorites.com http://impactites.net http://systematic-mineralogy.com http://kazakhstan-minerals.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Presentation in Tucson on Tuesday
I agree. Geoff was a kick and truly sick ( sick means good) and as always a pleasure to hear from. Meteorite Men Rocks. Nice finally meeting Mark as well. Go Geoff. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Mark Bowling wrote: > Great job Geoff (and Suzanne and Lisa Marie too)!!! > > My buddy and I had a great time. He's pretty fired up about meteorites now. > It was nice to see Twink, Bones and a few others (and meet some list members > for the first time in person!). I think quite a bit of interest was > generated! I received tons of questions from the folks at my table and a few > asked about the show and related events. Can't wait for the premier! Keep > up the great work you guys! > > Mark B. > Vail, AZ > > > > - Original Message > From: Notkin > To: Meteorite List > Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 3:57:59 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Presentation in Tucson on Tuesday > > Dear Listees: > > I'd like to extend an invitation to those of you in and around Tucson to join > me for a special event next week. > > This coming Tuesday, January 12, at 6 pm, I am very honored to be the guest > speaker at the Flandrau Science Center's "Science Cafe." This is part of an > ongoing educational series organized by the Flandrau. Free and open to the > public, it is held at the Cushing Street Bar & Grill -- a charming restaurant > very close to the TCC. The Flandrau says: "A science café is a casual forum > for people to meet and discuss a particular science topic with a scientist in > the relaxed atmosphere of a local restaurant." > > I will be giving a short talk about meteorites, meteorite hunting, and the > making of our "Meteorite Men" TV series, followed by a question and answer > session. Food and drinks are available for purchase. I'll also be bringing > along some favorite meteorite specimens for the audience to look at. > > Details: > > http://www.uasciencecenter.org > > -- and -- > > http://www.uasciencecenter.org/2010/01/08/science-cafe-meteorite-hunters-investigate-the-science-of-rocks-from-space > > > Hope to see some of you there. It should be fun! Please email me off-List if > you need any further information. > > > Respectfully, > > Geoff N. > > www.aerolite.org > www.meteoritemen.com > www.twitter.com/meteoritemen > www.meteoriteblog.org > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13, 2010
Pete and List, Demonstrating the value and enjoyment of examining stones..instead of throwing them..Commendable! Realizing that the inability to hear would not be a handicap to becoming a professional meteoriticist...as so far meteorites don't make a sound. Brilliant! A big hug from an appreciative father and grandfather, Guido -Original Message- >From: Joe Kerchner >Sent: Jan 13, 2010 10:51 AM >To: meteorite list >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January >13, 2010 > >Keep up the great work Pete. With more people doing stuff like that we will >undoubtedly have more members in the meteorite community when all these kids >grow up. Some may even find some new finds due to the education of people like >you. Good job Pete. >Best, >Joe Kerchner >http://illinoismeteorites.com >http://skyrockcafe.com > > > >- Original Message >From: Michael Johnson >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 11:15:43 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13, >2010 > >http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Jamuary_13_2010.html > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > >__ >Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >Meteorite-list mailing list >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
Hi Chris: I am glad that we agree on this. Larry > It's seldom confusing in practice, since the context almost always makes > clear what is actually under discussion. I'm pretty consistent in my own > usage: the body before and during its incandescent (meteor) phase is a > meteoroid, and after its incandescent phase is a meteorite (thus, a > meteorite during its cold fall). > > Chris > > * > Chris L Peterson > Cloudbait Observatory > http://www.cloudbait.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sterling K. Webb" > To: "Jason Utas" ; "Meteorite-list" > > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:14 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past > TheEarth > > >> Just to make things even more confusing, >> the IAU itself has approved the use of the >> term "meteor" in a dual sense to include the >> physical body itself, thus equating "meteoroid" >> with "meteor." >> >> Say what? >> >> Bob Verrish wrote an article about it: >> http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/mar08.htm >> >> I quote the IAU: >> >> Definition of terms by the IAU Commission 22, 1961. >> >> A. meteor: in particular, the light phenomenon which results >> from the entry into the Earth's atmosphere of a solid particle >> from space; more generally, as a noun or an adjective, ANY >> PHYSICAL OBJECT or phenomenon associated with such >> an event. >> >> B. meteoroid: a solid object moving in interplanetary space, >> of a size considerably smaller than an asteroid and considerably >> larger than an atom or molecule. >> >> C. meteorite: any object defined under B which has reached >> the surface of the Earth without being completely vaporized. >> >> D. meteoric: the adjectival form pertaining to definitions A and B. >> >> E. meteoritic: the adjectival form pertaining to definition C. >> >> F. fireball: a bright meteor with luminosity which equals or >> exceeds that of the brightest planets. >> >> G. micrometeorite: a very small meteorite or meteoritic particle >> with a diameter in general less than a millimeter. >> >> Now, is everything perfectly clear? >> >> I didn't think so... > > > __ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Fall Stones, ebay auction Sat, Jan 16
Aloha listoids, I have some very nice complete, freshly crusted fall stones and NWA material on my http://astroday.net/meteorites4sale.html website. Among the offerings are Bensour, Bjurbole, Claxton, Kilabo, Millbillillie, New Concord, Nuevo Mercurio, Peekskill, Pultusk, Tamdakht, Thuathe, Tuxtuac, Valera and NWA x slices and endcuts. Offlist for sales please. Segueing to ebay, the Big Kahuna has an auction ending this Saturday, January 16, starting at 7:56 am Pacific / 10:56 am Eastern / 3:56 pm London / 5:56 pm Helsinki / 11:56 pm Singapore: Allende CV3.2 0.89g, 3.17g, 4.36g, 8.06g frags, slices & stones Murchison CM2 0.05g, 0.47g Crusted Frags, starting @ $7.50 SaU 290 CH3 2.20g Very Rare, much < $100/g it sells 4 Park Forest L5 0.47g, 16.77g Dual lithology slices from $22.50 Tamdakht H5 82.24g Rare Oriented Individual Jaw Dropping Bassikounou H5 10.64g Yet Another PERFECT Bassi $19.99 Chergach H5 10.26g 98% FC, Semi-oriented beauty $19.99 NWA 2975 She 0.24g crusted individual from Mars start @ $89 D'Orbigny Ang 0.16g crusted fragment in membranebox $64.99 Camel Donga Euc 8.57g, 38.31g AAA Individuals, from $119 Millbillillie Euc 5.15g AAA Oriented, curtain flowlines, bid @ $49 Vaca Muerta Mes 33.19g Polished endcut Fabulous $59.99 Chinga Atax 173g one helluva cool rearview mirror for $199 Glorieta Mtn 9.73g very cool oriented siderite starting at $89 Sikhote Alin IIAB 34.13g Oriented w/ concave back, $29.99 ... and much more, like some cool pendant vials filled with Murchison, Bilanga, Park Forest, and Sulagiri frags, NWA 1877 OD, NWA x Pal, Henbury, and many quality unclassified and NWA 869 stones, a set of 12 new Micro Membraneboxes, an Apollo 11 - 40th Anniversary embroidered patch and sticker combo, and yet another Galileoscope. http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html Remember that you can count on the Big Kahuna to provide you with the highest quality authentic meteorites at the lowest prices on earth. If you don't believe me, click the links and take a look. Finally, the Big Kahuna will be in Tucson, packing stone while cruising the shows from Feb 3-6. Hope to meet many of you there ... I'll be the one with the double-parked outrigger canoe. 'scuse me while I waterproof my rocks for the paddle over ... Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13, 2010
Keep up the great work Pete. With more people doing stuff like that we will undoubtedly have more members in the meteorite community when all these kids grow up. Some may even find some new finds due to the education of people like you. Good job Pete. Best, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com - Original Message From: Michael Johnson To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, January 12, 2010 11:15:43 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - January 13, 2010 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/Jamuary_13_2010.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
>>The only objects I know of that are moving faster than the local escape velocity of the solar system (and hence must be from outside our solar system) are a small percentage of the "meteoroids" detected by AMOR radar systems. But they're so small they're usually referred to as "dust" or "micrometeoroids," although the largest particles are at about 100 microns and might be called small meteoroids by some.<< I'm not sure where all my original sources were from. Below is what I wrote down in my notes about 12 years ago. >> The fastest geocentric velocity a meteor can have while in solar orbit is 72 km/s (45 mps). Visually a meteor at this speed appears to be a very fast streak. From a 1948 - 1950 Canadian Radio survey, it has been learned that less than 1 percent of all meteors were traveling faster than the established 72 km/s solar speed limit. Of these that were traveling at apparent hyperbolic speeds, none were traveling faster than 80 km/s. As the survey noted, this excessive solar speed is within the realms of being measurement errors. But in recent years, additional research has been done that indicates the Canadian survey was relatively accurate. The Christchurch (New Zealand) meteor radar AMOR(Advanced Meteor Orbit Radar) has also yielded about 1% of meteoroids having an atmospheric speed in excess of 100 km/s. In addition, the Ulysses space probe dust detector has in 1994, discovered interstellar grains in the outer solar system at about 5 AU, having hyperbolic trajectories. This mean it’s traveling too fast to stay in orbit around the sun.<< GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
It's seldom confusing in practice, since the context almost always makes clear what is actually under discussion. I'm pretty consistent in my own usage: the body before and during its incandescent (meteor) phase is a meteoroid, and after its incandescent phase is a meteorite (thus, a meteorite during its cold fall). Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Sterling K. Webb" To: "Jason Utas" ; "Meteorite-list" Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth Just to make things even more confusing, the IAU itself has approved the use of the term "meteor" in a dual sense to include the physical body itself, thus equating "meteoroid" with "meteor." Say what? Bob Verrish wrote an article about it: http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/mar08.htm I quote the IAU: Definition of terms by the IAU Commission 22, 1961. A. meteor: in particular, the light phenomenon which results from the entry into the Earth's atmosphere of a solid particle from space; more generally, as a noun or an adjective, ANY PHYSICAL OBJECT or phenomenon associated with such an event. B. meteoroid: a solid object moving in interplanetary space, of a size considerably smaller than an asteroid and considerably larger than an atom or molecule. C. meteorite: any object defined under B which has reached the surface of the Earth without being completely vaporized. D. meteoric: the adjectival form pertaining to definitions A and B. E. meteoritic: the adjectival form pertaining to definition C. F. fireball: a bright meteor with luminosity which equals or exceeds that of the brightest planets. G. micrometeorite: a very small meteorite or meteoritic particle with a diameter in general less than a millimeter. Now, is everything perfectly clear? I didn't think so... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Happy New Year
Dear List Members A New Year, but not a new decade, and there are so many things to look forward to - hopefully. Anyway I would like to take this opportunity to wish all list members, whoever they are and wherever they may be, believer or non-believer and very happy and prosperous New Year. I know this is a bit late, but I have only just got back from an extended period of leave and I am just beginning to clear my nearly one thousand e-mails from my inbox - mostly from the list! But hey, in all the dust and rubbish on the floor, a few diamonds always shine through. Have a great 2010 (or whatever year it is with you) Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre National Museums Scotland 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Phone: +44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk www.nms.ac.uk Meet Your Maker, the creative minds behind Scotlands crafts. National Museum of Scotland, 29 January 14 March. National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past TheEarth
Hi all again: Those who study impacts on Earth and other bodies tend to use the terms impactors and bolides for the things that make holes in the ground but too big leave any meteorite. This gets around the asteroid/comet problem. I just got this from WIkipedia (same article that Sterling used?: "Bolide: The word bolide comes from the Greek âïëéò, (bolis) which can mean a missile or to flash. The IAU has no official definition of bolide and generally considers the term synonymous with fireball. The bolide term is generally used for fireballs reaching magnitude -14 or brighter.[8] The term is more often used among geologists than astronomers where it means a very large impactor. For example, the USGS uses the term to mean a generic large crater-forming projectile "to imply that we do not know the precise nature of the impacting body ... whether it is a rocky or metallic asteroid, or an icy comet,... Astronomers tend to use the term to mean an exceptionally bright fireball, particularly one that explodes (sometimes called a detonating fireball)." I do not remember in all the emails I read this morning someone asking about the dark phase. Since the definition of a meteoroid is an object in an independent orbit aroung the Sun, once it is in the dark phase, it is no longer in an independent orbit and is probably going to survive and so might as well be called a meteorite. I have always said that the rocky bit that causes a meteor is a meteoroid (which we cannot see). I tell kids that if you can see the thing that is causing the meteor/fireball---duck! Now, since I have not had my morning coffee (mentioned this to Sterling), the problem with the IAU definition is that it states that a "meteoriod is significantly smaller than an asteroid." If that is true, what is between a large meteoroid and a small asteroid? A dwarf asteroid (sorry, need my coffee)! Now, in support of the IAU and my concern with the proposed Royal Astronomical Society definition is that we are observing things smaller than 10 meters and those are given asteroid designations, they are asteroids. There is no IAU meteroid nomenclature committee! I think that you need the line between large meteoroid and small asteroid to be left "fuzzy." Define a meteoriod as up to 10 meters, but if it is close enough to the Earth and it gets detected and given a designaton/name then it becomes (reclassified as) an asteroid. This makes sense from the perspective that, when we learn more about something, its designation can change (such as large Trans Neptunian Objects becoming dwarf planets as our knowledge of them increases). Enough said before my first shot of caffeine. Larry > Just to make things even more confusing, > the IAU itself has approved the use of the > term "meteor" in a dual sense to include the > physical body itself, thus equating "meteoroid" > with "meteor." > > Say what? > > Bob Verrish wrote an article about it: > http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2008/mar08.htm > > I quote the IAU: > > Definition of terms by the IAU Commission 22, 1961. > > A. meteor: in particular, the light phenomenon which results > from the entry into the Earth's atmosphere of a solid particle > from space; more generally, as a noun or an adjective, ANY > PHYSICAL OBJECT or phenomenon associated with such > an event. > > B. meteoroid: a solid object moving in interplanetary space, > of a size considerably smaller than an asteroid and considerably > larger than an atom or molecule. > > C. meteorite: any object defined under B which has reached > the surface of the Earth without being completely vaporized. > > D. meteoric: the adjectival form pertaining to definitions A and B. > > E. meteoritic: the adjectival form pertaining to definition C. > > F. fireball: a bright meteor with luminosity which equals or > exceeds that of the brightest planets. > > G. micrometeorite: a very small meteorite or meteoritic particle > with a diameter in general less than a millimeter. > > Now, is everything perfectly clear? > > I didn't think so... > > > Sterling K. Webb > - > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Utas" > To: "Meteorite-list" > Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Small Asteroid 2010 AL30 Will Fly Past > TheEarth > > > Hello Sterling, Larry, All, > Interesting - there's another problem with Sterling's initial > definition, of which the following statement was a component: > > "2010 AL30 could be a "meteoroid" if it would hit and > leave a piece to be recovered. Just be very patient and > live a long time... (Always a good idea anyway.)" > > As per that definition, though, there's a problem when it comes to > single crater-forming meteorites that don't leave pieces to be > recovered. Yes, they hit the earth, but if they can't be recovered in > any way, can they really be called meteorites (because they don't > technically p
