Re: [meteorite-list] One Year Ago

2010-05-17 Thread Brian Cox
Thank you very much Bernd for reminding all of us that Richard passed just 
one year ago. I think that many of us wouldn't even be on this list if not 
for the great contributions he had made and all the information that we have 
learned from him.


I'm sure he's out in the Cosmos enjoying a close-up view of amazing 
Asteroids. 


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[meteorite-list] Countdown to Impact (Almahata Sitta)

2010-05-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
Sitting here watching the National Geographic Channel and found out that 
Countdown to Impact will be run multiple times over the coming week.

Twice today, Monday the 17th at 7  10pm EDT. Two more times on Thursday the 
20th and once again each day on the 23rd, 24th, 27th  31st.

So anyone who missed it when it had first premiered, this is another chance to 
watch and record it.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photo color issue update - colored scale cubes

2010-05-17 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi Greg,

Have you tried taking the photos in manual mode? I see that you had
your FinePix S1000fd in auto white balance  auto flash. I believe if you
set the values yourself you will be able to recreate the look of the photo
you like even when using the scale cube.

Thanks,

Peter   

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Catterton
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:06 PM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Photo color issue update - colored scale cubes

I am pretty certain the issue is being caused now by my scale cube...
See pictures below, one is with a blue cube, one is without.
No other editing or anything has been done. Only change is removing the
scale cube... guess I am now in the market for a new cube that wont do this.

.92g Karoonda with cube
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g2.jpg

.92g Karoonda without the cube
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g.jpg

Thanks for all the input from everyone.


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photo color issue update - colored scale cubes

2010-05-17 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Peter and Greg,

I've never used the flash a single time when taking meteorite photos.
Flash is evil.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 5/17/10, Peter Scherff petersche...@rcn.com wrote:
 Hi Greg,

   Have you tried taking the photos in manual mode? I see that you had
 your FinePix S1000fd in auto white balance  auto flash. I believe if you
 set the values yourself you will be able to recreate the look of the photo
 you like even when using the scale cube.

 Thanks,

 Peter

 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg
 Catterton
 Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:06 PM
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Photo color issue update - colored scale cubes

 I am pretty certain the issue is being caused now by my scale cube...
 See pictures below, one is with a blue cube, one is without.
 No other editing or anything has been done. Only change is removing the
 scale cube... guess I am now in the market for a new cube that wont do this.

 .92g Karoonda with cube
 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g2.jpg

 .92g Karoonda without the cube
 http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g.jpg

 Thanks for all the input from everyone.


 Greg Catterton
 www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
 IMCA member 4682
 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites






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[meteorite-list] Gentleman - And gentlemen....

2010-05-17 Thread Darryl Pitt



Count,

You have long demonstrated you're a fine gentleman, and have done so  
yet again.


I so hope you and Sonny are able to rapidly resolve the matter before  
you.



All best / d,



On May 17, 2010, at 12:09 AM, GREG LINDH wrote:




Count Deiro,

You certainly have not disppointed me, and it seems to me that you  
have nothing to apologize for. I'm not familiar with the meteorite  
rules of etiquette, but it seems to me that you got the  
shaftperiod.


 Greg




Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 20:39:27 -0700
From: ironfromthesky@gmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] MY REGRETS AND APOLOGY

Hello List, Count Deiro and several others has tried to post this and
it would not go through for some reason, so I am giving it a try.
Regards, Robert Ward

Dear Listees,

Like many of us, I was taken aback by Bill Kies' outburst concerning
Sonny Clary's alleged bad behavior in the Wisconsin field. While
Bills' attack was admittedly shrill, I couldn't help but wonder what
actually happened in Wisconsin...or what happened with Sonny in
Texasor in Georgia. Well, after much soul-searching, I have come
to conclude it's my responsibility to share what happened in Nevada.

First, however, I have two admissions to make for which I am  
embarrassed:


1. After I found my first meteorite, Nevada's largest, Sonny Clary
informed me It's customary to give the person with whom you are
hunting half of whatever you find. I had no reason not to believe
him. Sonny had the meteorite cut the very next morning. When I was
advised that Sonny's custom of meteorite sharing was not customary, I
asked for it back and he refused. I became angry and I threatened
Sonny, and for that I apologize.

2. I felt stung by the first wave of criticism when the meteorite was
cut, and in an effort to deflect such criticism, I allowed Sonny to
post on his web site and the List an accounting of my find where I
declared that splitting the meteorite had been done in gratitude for
Sonny's mentoring me. This was also inaccurate, and for this
fabrication I apologize as well.

This was not the first time that Sonny and I had hunted, and as I
stood in shock and delight looking down at my first find, Sonny said,
Guido, I know we don't have a deal and I don't want to piss you off,
but it's customary to give the person with whom you're hunting half  
of
whatever you find. Sonny was a mile away when I found this  
meteorite,

at our third location of the day, and one where I had hunted before
with my grandsons and friends. When I later asked Sonny why he had
arranged to have it cut so quickly, Sonny admitted that he had done  
so

because I knew there was a chance that you would change your mind.

Folks, I was blessed to find my first meteorite at age 73. From an
experience which should have been a source of only immense joy, I  
have

also sadly experienced confusion, sorrow, anger and embarrassment.
Sonny still refuses to return the other half of the meteorite, and
while that's deeply upsetting to me, more importantly than any
meteorite or the anguish experienced, I am sorry if I've disappointed
you, my friends on this great List.

Humbly and sincerely,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536

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Re: [meteorite-list] MY REGRETS AND APOLOGY

2010-05-17 Thread Joe Kerchner
Count,
   If you guys had a deal to split it before you started hunting, that that's a 
deal. When I was hunting in WI some of the groups I hunted with made that same 
deal. I know one of sonny's finds is being cut so he can split it with 3 others 
who were hunting with him. Sometimes that is the deal, sometimes it is not. It 
is not customary, but it is a deal that is made many times while hunting. If it 
is the deal you should honor it. If not, I don't know what to say. I just hope 
it gets taken care of and both are happy. I would be happy with half of a 25lb 
find, even if I found it.

 Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://skyrockcafe.com



- Original Message 
From: Robert Ward ironfromthesky@gmail.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Sun, May 16, 2010 10:39:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] MY REGRETS AND APOLOGY

Hello List, Count Deiro and several others has tried to post this and
it would not go through for some reason, so I am giving it a try.
 Regards, Robert Ward

Dear Listees,

Like many of us, I was taken aback by Bill Kies' outburst concerning
Sonny Clary's alleged bad behavior in the Wisconsin field. While
Bills' attack was admittedly shrill, I couldn't help but wonder what
actually happened in Wisconsin...or what happened with Sonny in
Texasor in Georgia. Well, after much soul-searching, I have come
to conclude it's my responsibility to share what happened in Nevada.

First, however, I have two admissions to make for which I am embarrassed:

1. After I found my first meteorite, Nevada's largest, Sonny Clary
informed me It's customary to give the person with whom you are
hunting half of whatever you find. I had no reason not to believe
him. Sonny had the meteorite cut the very next morning. When I was
advised that Sonny's custom of meteorite sharing was not customary, I
asked for it back and he refused. I became angry and I threatened
Sonny, and for that I apologize.

2. I felt stung by the first wave of criticism when the meteorite was
cut, and in an effort to deflect such criticism, I allowed Sonny to
post on his web site and the List an accounting of my find where I
declared that splitting the meteorite had been done in gratitude for
Sonny's mentoring me. This was also inaccurate, and for this
fabrication I apologize as well.

This was not the first time that Sonny and I had hunted, and as I
stood in shock and delight looking down at my first find, Sonny said,
Guido, I know we don't have a deal and I don't want to piss you off,
but it's customary to give the person with whom you're hunting half of
whatever you find. Sonny was a mile away when I found this meteorite,
at our third location of the day, and one where I had hunted before
with my grandsons and friends. When I later asked Sonny why he had
arranged to have it cut so quickly, Sonny admitted that he had done so
because I knew there was a chance that you would change your mind.

Folks, I was blessed to find my first meteorite at age 73. From an
experience which should have been a source of only immense joy, I have
also sadly experienced confusion, sorrow, anger and embarrassment.
Sonny still refuses to return the other half of the meteorite, and
while that's deeply upsetting to me, more importantly than any
meteorite or the anguish experienced, I am sorry if I've disappointed
you, my friends on this great List.

Humbly and sincerely,

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536
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[meteorite-list] Pictures of Find Wisconsin Fall

2010-05-17 Thread Shea Gorzelanczyk
This meteorite was recovered 90 hours after fall.
Per request, here's some pictures.
http://s794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/meteor23/Wisconsin%20Fall%20Meteorite/
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Registry UW Madison

2010-05-17 Thread Shea Gorzelanczyk

A great way to give back to Wisconsin and the UW system. It would be awesome if 
we could get some support from meteorite list members.
http://www.geology.wisc.edu/misc/register-your-meteorite/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pictures of Find Wisconsin Fall

2010-05-17 Thread Joe Kerchner
That is beautiful. Thanks for sharing it with us!! Congrats on the great find!!

 Best Wishes,
Joe Kerchner
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- Original Message 
From: Shea Gorzelanczyk manti...@sbcglobal.net
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 8:55:02 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Pictures of Find Wisconsin Fall

This meteorite was recovered 90 hours after fall.
Per request, here's some pictures.
http://s794.photobucket.com/albums/yy221/meteor23/Wisconsin%20Fall%20Meteorite/
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Re: [meteorite-list] MY REGRETS AND APOLOGY

2010-05-17 Thread wahlperry

Hi List,

I will try to make this short and sweet. 


In Wisconsin  we all know the true story. Myself and Marc Fries both 
responded to the list about what happened. Bill Kies has since sent me 
an apology off list. West Texas, who knows what he is talking about. 
Georgia -get over it.



I was contacted by an older gentleman regarding meteorite hunting. It 
took  awhile for me to gain trust in him and then I took him under my 
wing and began to teach him about meteorite hunting. I gave this 
individual numerous meteorites including some sentimental ones that 
were found by Jim Kriegh and myself. I gave him these to start his 
collection. I invited this gentleman into my home and trusted him like 
a father. I decided to show him the ropes and how to hunt. I took him 
out for a few hours one day and we did not find anything. On another 
occasion I decided to take him to an area that I had been working for 
the past 8 years. This was a cold find area and I am working closely 
with a University in classifying and mapping out this unique fall area. 
On this particular day this man found a nice meteorite. This meteorite 
was found less than 50 feet from where I left this individual in the 
strewnfield. Granted, I had told him to go out to this valley before 
but not to this exact location that I was working on. If you read the 
story in Meteorite Times and the posts to the List from the finder you 
will get an idea of how it went that day with the exception of an 
exaggerated distance that he walked. It was a cool find and I was happy 
for him. As far as cutting the meteorite, please read the Meteorite 
Times story again and you will understand what happened. I reminded 
this individual on several occasions that this area needed to be kept 
confidential to preserve the work that I have completed and am 
submitting to the University. I reminded him that I had been spent 8 
years working the area to get it to this point and the finds have 
become few and far between. I asked him to keep this area confidential 
and he assured me he would. A short time later I received a phone call 
from a friend saying this individual had invited them to hunt  his new 
strewnfield. They declined the offer knowing the true story behind the 
find.



When I returned from my first Wisconsin hunt I decided to call this 
individual. I was excited to share the hunting story and tell him about 
the trip and Brix's find. He had just sent a couple of nice posts to 
the List congratulating Brix and myself about the find. You would think 
that if he was angry with me about the meteorite he would have NOT sent 
these posts as recently as APRIL. During our conversation he informed 
me that he had taken 6 to 8 people out to my strewnfield meteorite 
hunting while I was away. I was extremely upset about his decision to 
expose my area. You have to understand I spent 8 years in this area 
5-10 days a month working in secrecy, quietly documenting things and 
staying out of sight. Now it was exposed, he had spent 2 hours in the 
area I had spent 8 years. His only explanation was to ask me why I 
wanted to keep it quiet and what I was trying to accomplish. He wanted 
to share the area with everyone. Any hunter who had diligently spent 
time in the field will understand my frustration.If he would have found 
the area or meteorite on his own it would have been different. I still 
will not publish this data for years. After becoming angry I told this 
individual that I will never take him hunting again. I asked him to not 
contact me. A few days later he decided that I tricked him into giving 
me half of the meteorite, threatened to sue me by email, threatened to 
post stories about the Georgia incident if I did not give the meteorite 
back to him. He also tried to extort me by email and left messages on 
my cell phone. I have kept all of these records. I have forwarded all 
of his threats to the IMCA and notified Art at the Meteorite List. This 
is why Robert Ward had to post this story for this man. 



If this gentleman had expressed an interest in having the other half of 
the meteorite I would have GLADLY given it to him before this incident. 
He even came over and took photographs of the 2 halves together. We 
hung out and discussed different polishing methods and whose half would 
look better. He never asked for the other half back. If it was truly an 
issue for him he would have asked for it while he was in my home with 
the 2 halves together.  You can now understand my frustration from the 
betrayal, threats, and trying to ruin my hard work in this strewnfield. 
Remember 2 hours versus 8 years is a huge difference.



As far as splitting finds goes, Rob, we know what your agreements are 
but why don't you state them publicly? What is your policy with your 
hunting partners on your rare finds in Oman and other countries? What 
about all of the Glorieta hunters who split their finds? Also what 
about the hunters who go to the Sahara? As for 

[meteorite-list] Massa meteorite from South Africa?

2010-05-17 Thread hxmendoza
Good morning everyone.
Many if you by now are aware of my little problem with that classified  
endcut that I bought a couple weeks or so ago at the Spring Denver show.

Anyway I also bought a 3.22g meteorite from that same dealer that is  
called MASSA from South Africa.

Well I just went to the Bulletin to read up on it and it isn't listed.  
Has anyone else heard of this meteorite or have any info on it. I  
tried Googling it but nothing came up. Is this going to be another bad  
learning experience??

He also almost sold me a frag of Stewart Valley. I checked that too on  
the Bulletin and the name did not come up also. Any info on Stewart  
Valley?

Lastly, I received no replies on the Find a Falling Star softcover I  
an selling so I'm lowering the price $45 OR BEST OFFER, plus shipping.

Regards,
Henry Mendoza
Aurora, CO

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[meteorite-list] From the Admin - Please Read

2010-05-17 Thread Art
Good Morning;

Both Count Deiro and Sonny Clary have been set to moderated mode until
their disagreement is worked out. Moderated mode means that their
posts won't go through unless I approve them. It is against List
policy to post for another person; in this case I informed both
individuals that they were being moderated yesterday. I released
Sonny's post from last nite to allow for a response to Count's earlier
post that bypassed the moderation process.

Please refrain from commenting about their disagreement and do not
forward posts. In the future anyone who posts for another individual
will be removed from the List.

Thank you, Art
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Find a Falling Star

2010-05-17 Thread hxmendoza
I am lowering my price on the softcover edition of Nininger's FIND A  
FALLING STAR to $40 or Best Offer. Please contact me at: hxmend...@yahoo.com 
  if interested.

Regards,
Henry Mendoza


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Re: [meteorite-list] Photo color issue update - colored scale cubes

2010-05-17 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi Mike, List,

Mike is right, the flash in macro photography is evil, sort of... (most 
macro photographers use what's called a ring flash which mounts on the 
end of an SLR camera lens)


It all depends on how you use your camera, if it's an SLR or a Point  
Shoot. I don't flash at all, rather I like using a diffused full 
spectrum light. $20 at your local Office Depot. Oh yeah and a plain 
white piece of paper for the background. Simple. Everyone likes simple.


As for white balancing. Your camera's built in light meter reads 
everything on average at 18% gray and white balances accordingly to how 
bright or dark the subject/background/foreground is collectively. A 
quick trick I use is to point the camera's focal point at the shadow 
created by the meteorite while pressing the shutter button halfway, 
thereby forcing the camera to use the gray to white balance. Wait for 
the beep, this means it's focused, then while still holding the button 
halfway I re-frame the meteorite in the center of the photo and fully 
depress the shutter button.


Works every time... http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorite-photos/

Enjoy!

Regards,
Eric Wichman
Meteorites USA




On 5/17/2010 4:05 AM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks wrote:

Hi Peter and Greg,

I've never used the flash a single time when taking meteorite photos.
Flash is evil.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 5/17/10, Peter Scherffpetersche...@rcn.com  wrote:
   

Hi Greg,

Have you tried taking the photos in manual mode? I see that you had
your FinePix S1000fd in auto white balance  auto flash. I believe if you
set the values yourself you will be able to recreate the look of the photo
you like even when using the scale cube.

Thanks,

Peter

-Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Catterton
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:06 PM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Photo color issue update - colored scale cubes

I am pretty certain the issue is being caused now by my scale cube...
See pictures below, one is with a blue cube, one is without.
No other editing or anything has been done. Only change is removing the
scale cube... guess I am now in the market for a new cube that wont do this.

.92g Karoonda with cube
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g2.jpg

.92g Karoonda without the cube
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165/jedisdiamond/Karoonda92g.jpg

Thanks for all the input from everyone.


Greg Catterton
www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com
IMCA member 4682
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Find a Falling Star

2010-05-17 Thread hxmendoza
Hello all,
The book is sold. Thanks to all who inquired.

Regards,
Henry

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[meteorite-list] NO REGRETS

2010-05-17 Thread Robert Ward
Hello Sonny, List, As per Art's request I will not discuss the Nevada
issue, but I am happy to address Sonny's request that I disclose  the
agreements I have in regards to the shares on my hunts. On desert
hunts the finder keeps all of his common chondrites, we do split rare
achondrites, lunars, carbonaceous chondrites, rumurutiites, ect. The
thought of my 22.61 kilo DHO 1431 oriented nose cone having been cut
in half so that my partner could get his share is unimaginable to me.
Also, if one finds a broken individual and your partner finds the
other piece, let's say ten feet away, that piece belongs to the
original finder, and that person calls the shots on how the strewn
field is hunted from that point on.  All of our agreements are made
before we even step foot on an airplane, this prevents any
misunderstandings.  As far as Glorieta Mountain is concerned, every
person I have hunted with that has found meteorites kept their finds,
Patrick Hermann, Robert Haag, myself, Shauna Russell, Jim Strope. I
feel that if you work for it, it was meant for you. On large scale
projects such as Springwater we do split equally, but this is a mining
project essentially, we all have a lot of money invested, and all open
ground gets covered, the 'luck of the hunt' is not such of a factor,
it was simply in your grid area. Sonny, I hope this public statement
answers you questions. May I suggest you have a contract in writing
with your partners, and the land owners in the future to prevent these
recurrent problems.Regards, Robert Ward.
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Re: [meteorite-list] NO REGRETS

2010-05-17 Thread cdtucson
Robert,
You are a class act.
This is good information as many of us had no idea how this works in the real 
world. 
Now we know. thank you for sharing. 
Carl
--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax


 Robert Ward ironfromthesky@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hello Sonny, List, As per Art's request I will not discuss the Nevada
 issue, but I am happy to address Sonny's request that I disclose  the
 agreements I have in regards to the shares on my hunts. On desert
 hunts the finder keeps all of his common chondrites, we do split rare
 achondrites, lunars, carbonaceous chondrites, rumurutiites, ect. The
 thought of my 22.61 kilo DHO 1431 oriented nose cone having been cut
 in half so that my partner could get his share is unimaginable to me.
 Also, if one finds a broken individual and your partner finds the
 other piece, let's say ten feet away, that piece belongs to the
 original finder, and that person calls the shots on how the strewn
 field is hunted from that point on.  All of our agreements are made
 before we even step foot on an airplane, this prevents any
 misunderstandings.  As far as Glorieta Mountain is concerned, every
 person I have hunted with that has found meteorites kept their finds,
 Patrick Hermann, Robert Haag, myself, Shauna Russell, Jim Strope. I
 feel that if you work for it, it was meant for you. On large scale
 projects such as Springwater we do split equally, but this is a mining
 project essentially, we all have a lot of money invested, and all open
 ground gets covered, the 'luck of the hunt' is not such of a factor,
 it was simply in your grid area. Sonny, I hope this public statement
 answers you questions. May I suggest you have a contract in writing
 with your partners, and the land owners in the future to prevent these
 recurrent problems.Regards, Robert Ward.
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[meteorite-list] Thanks, Michael!

2010-05-17 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi All,

Just wanted to let everyone know that I received a VERY nice
(overwhelming,
really) package from Michael Cottingham in today's mail. In it were
copies
of four separate Dodgeville and Platteville papers containing stories
about
the big fall in Livingston/Mifflin -- mementos that I wish I had taken
the
time to chase down while I was there a few weeks ago.

But the BIG surprise in the package was a very generous 4+ gram slice
from Michael's latest 105.1-gram find there a little over a week ago! I
don't think Michael has discussed this discovery on the list yet, so
I'll leave the details of that story for him to share. But I will say
that it took a bit of a leap of faith on his, Greg Hupe's, and Eric
Wichman's parts to search in an area I recommended to them (based on
radar), given that it was over 3 miles from the nearest prior find.
(Psychologically, it is much easier to hunt with confidence when you
are searching an area surrounded by other known finds.)

Bottom line is that this find ended up being a significant strewn field
extender, and I'm thankful to Michael, Greg and Eric for diverting
valuable time they could have spent in more productive areas in an
attempt to validate my interpretation of the NEXRAD data. I am quite
relieved that their efforts were not in vain! Their success alone
was most gratifying from a theoretical analysis standpoint; to actually
be sent a slice from that find was (in the words of MasterCard) ...
priceless.

A VERY BIG THANK YOU!

--Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks, Michael!

2010-05-17 Thread Meteorites USA

Hi Rob,

Thanks for the mention, great credit should be given to Michael for his 
work on this find and extending the field.


I'm personally grateful for the sharing of the data Rob. Thank you, it 
will be reciprocated in kind now and in future hunts for sure! It was a 
pleasure meeting and hunting with you as well as sharing one of my 
meteorite find moments with you which happens a few days before 
Michael's great find which I will not spoil by giving away any juicy 
details. ;)


Congrats go out to Michael for his 105.1g find, and I want to thank him 
and Greg for a great hunt. It was most enjoyable.


Regards,
Eric



On 5/17/2010 1:19 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote:

Hi All,

Just wanted to let everyone know that I received a VERY nice
(overwhelming,
really) package from Michael Cottingham in today's mail. In it were
copies
of four separate Dodgeville and Platteville papers containing stories
about
the big fall in Livingston/Mifflin -- mementos that I wish I had taken
the
time to chase down while I was there a few weeks ago.

But the BIG surprise in the package was a very generous 4+ gram slice
from Michael's latest 105.1-gram find there a little over a week ago! I
don't think Michael has discussed this discovery on the list yet, so
I'll leave the details of that story for him to share. But I will say
that it took a bit of a leap of faith on his, Greg Hupe's, and Eric
Wichman's parts to search in an area I recommended to them (based on
radar), given that it was over 3 miles from the nearest prior find.
(Psychologically, it is much easier to hunt with confidence when you
are searching an area surrounded by other known finds.)

Bottom line is that this find ended up being a significant strewn field
extender, and I'm thankful to Michael, Greg and Eric for diverting
valuable time they could have spent in more productive areas in an
attempt to validate my interpretation of the NEXRAD data. I am quite
relieved that their efforts were not in vain! Their success alone
was most gratifying from a theoretical analysis standpoint; to actually
be sent a slice from that find was (in the words of MasterCard) ...
priceless.

A VERY BIG THANK YOU!

--Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks, Michael!

2010-05-17 Thread michael
Congrats!
I'm not surprised, Michael is a really great guy!

Best regards,
Michael Johnson



www.rocksfromspace.org

-Original Message-
From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:42 
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Thanks, Michael!

Hi All,

Just wanted to let everyone know that I received a VERY nice
(overwhelming,
really) package from Michael Cottingham in today's mail. In it were
copies
of four separate Dodgeville and Platteville papers containing stories
about
the big fall in Livingston/Mifflin -- mementos that I wish I had taken
the
time to chase down while I was there a few weeks ago.

But the BIG surprise in the package was a very generous 4+ gram slice
from Michael's latest 105.1-gram find there a little over a week ago! I
don't think Michael has discussed this discovery on the list yet, so
I'll leave the details of that story for him to share. But I will say
that it took a bit of a leap of faith on his, Greg Hupe's, and Eric
Wichman's parts to search in an area I recommended to them (based on
radar), given that it was over 3 miles from the nearest prior find.
(Psychologically, it is much easier to hunt with confidence when you
are searching an area surrounded by other known finds.)

Bottom line is that this find ended up being a significant strewn field
extender, and I'm thankful to Michael, Greg and Eric for diverting
valuable time they could have spent in more productive areas in an
attempt to validate my interpretation of the NEXRAD data. I am quite
relieved that their efforts were not in vain! Their success alone
was most gratifying from a theoretical analysis standpoint; to actually
be sent a slice from that find was (in the words of MasterCard) ...
priceless.

A VERY BIG THANK YOU!

--Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thanks, Michael!

2010-05-17 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,
Thanks. BUT Thank You Robert Matson for pioneering an amazing new technique in 
meteorite recovery.  Can't wait for the next one!
Best Wishes
Michael Cottingham


 Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:42 -0700
 From: robert.d.mat...@saic.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Thanks, Michael!

 Hi All,

 Just wanted to let everyone know that I received a VERY nice
 (overwhelming,
 really) package from Michael Cottingham in today's mail. In it were
 copies
 of four separate Dodgeville and Platteville papers containing stories
 about
 the big fall in Livingston/Mifflin -- mementos that I wish I had taken
 the
 time to chase down while I was there a few weeks ago.

 But the BIG surprise in the package was a very generous 4+ gram slice
 from Michael's latest 105.1-gram find there a little over a week ago! I
 don't think Michael has discussed this discovery on the list yet, so
 I'll leave the details of that story for him to share. But I will say
 that it took a bit of a leap of faith on his, Greg Hupe's, and Eric
 Wichman's parts to search in an area I recommended to them (based on
 radar), given that it was over 3 miles from the nearest prior find.
 (Psychologically, it is much easier to hunt with confidence when you
 are searching an area surrounded by other known finds.)

 Bottom line is that this find ended up being a significant strewn field
 extender, and I'm thankful to Michael, Greg and Eric for diverting
 valuable time they could have spent in more productive areas in an
 attempt to validate my interpretation of the NEXRAD data. I am quite
 relieved that their efforts were not in vain! Their success alone
 was most gratifying from a theoretical analysis standpoint; to actually
 be sent a slice from that find was (in the words of MasterCard) ...
 priceless.

 A VERY BIG THANK YOU!

 --Rob
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: May 10-14, 2010

2010-05-17 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
May 10-14, 2010

o Terra Sabaea (10 May 2010)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100510a

o Wind Effects (11 May 2010)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100511a

o Utopia Planitia (12 May 2010)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100512a

o Acheron Fossae (13 May 2010)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100513a

o Cerberus Fossae (14 May 2010)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100514a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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[meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube

2010-05-17 Thread Marcin Cimala - PolandMET

Hello
From long time I wanted to make a video documentation of my specimens (main 
masses) before they needed to be cut into slices. Tooday I decided that its 
time to start this experiment.


I made several (i hope) good 360* movies with specimens from my collection 
and my unclassified main masses that still waiting and waiting for their NWA 
numbers. From other side its good that their classifications takes soo long, 
becousese in other case, they will be in slices long time ago.


Please, send me Your opinions, comments and remarks about my videos. In near 
future I want make more movies with more efects and ofcourse longer. If 
someone can turn off this rain over europe, I plan even make some in field 
movies :)
I use my new Panasonic Lumix TZ7 with HD movies and very simple, but good 
AVS Video Editor.


Please visit my Youtube account (10 movies)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Polandmet#g/u


-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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Re: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube

2010-05-17 Thread Richard Kowalski
Beautiful Marcin.
--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET mar...@meteoryt.net wrote:

 From: Marcin Cimala - PolandMET mar...@meteoryt.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube
 To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:59 PM
 Hello
  From long time I wanted to make a video documentation
 of my specimens (main 
 masses) before they needed to be cut into slices. Tooday I
 decided that its time to start this experiment.
 
 I made several (i hope) good 360* movies with specimens
 from my collection and my unclassified main masses that
 still waiting and waiting for their NWA numbers. From other
 side its good that their classifications takes soo long,
 becousese in other case, they will be in slices long time
 ago.
 
 Please, send me Your opinions, comments and remarks about
 my videos. In near future I want make more movies with more
 efects and ofcourse longer. If someone can turn off this
 rain over europe, I plan even make some in field movies :)
 I use my new Panasonic Lumix TZ7 with HD movies and very
 simple, but good AVS Video Editor.
 
 Please visit my Youtube account (10 movies)
 http://www.youtube.com/user/Polandmet#g/u
 
 
 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
 http://www.Meteoryty.pl       
      marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
 http://www.PolandMET.com   
    marcin(at)polandmet.com
 http://www.Gao-Guenie.com      GSM: +48
 (793) 567667
 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
 
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[meteorite-list] AD: Last Call For Newspapers

2010-05-17 Thread fallingfusion
Last call for April 21 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel newspapers. As seen on eBay. 
Direct sale price is only $10, shipped by Priority Mail. 

Paypal address: fallingfus...@earthlink.net

Thank you

Ryan 
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Re: [meteorite-list] NO REGRETS

2010-05-17 Thread GREG LINDH

 
Hi Robert,
 
  Thanks for your informative email.  I've yet to experience my first hunt, so 
your information helps me understand some of the intricacies of meteorite 
hunting rules and ediquettes.
 
  Your neighbor in Prescott Valley,
 
  Greg Lindh  
 
 



 Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 12:32:42 -0700
 From: ironfromthesky@gmail.com
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: [meteorite-list] NO REGRETS

 Hello Sonny, List, As per Art's request I will not discuss the Nevada
 issue, but I am happy to address Sonny's request that I disclose the
 agreements I have in regards to the shares on my hunts. On desert
 hunts the finder keeps all of his common chondrites, we do split rare
 achondrites, lunars, carbonaceous chondrites, rumurutiites, ect. The
 thought of my 22.61 kilo DHO 1431 oriented nose cone having been cut
 in half so that my partner could get his share is unimaginable to me.
 Also, if one finds a broken individual and your partner finds the
 other piece, let's say ten feet away, that piece belongs to the
 original finder, and that person calls the shots on how the strewn
 field is hunted from that point on. All of our agreements are made
 before we even step foot on an airplane, this prevents any
 misunderstandings. As far as Glorieta Mountain is concerned, every
 person I have hunted with that has found meteorites kept their finds,
 Patrick Hermann, Robert Haag, myself, Shauna Russell, Jim Strope. I
 feel that if you work for it, it was meant for you. On large scale
 projects such as Springwater we do split equally, but this is a mining
 project essentially, we all have a lot of money invested, and all open
 ground gets covered, the 'luck of the hunt' is not such of a factor,
 it was simply in your grid area. Sonny, I hope this public statement
 answers you questions. May I suggest you have a contract in writing
 with your partners, and the land owners in the future to prevent these
 recurrent problems. Regards, Robert Ward.
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[meteorite-list] AD - New Collector, Rock TRADE

2010-05-17 Thread Ryan Weidert
Hi All,
   I've been reading the list for a few months now and finally
thought I may have something to offer (albeit somewhat self-centered).
Im a new collector of meteorites, and am looking to trade mineral
specimens for meteorites or related things to bolster my tiny
collection. Im a geologist, and have been an avid rockhound for the
last 10 years of my 25. That said, I have a literal ton of rocks and I
figured that since this list deals with meteorites, I should try and
offer things that are more related to space rocks than not. Im simply
looking to swap some of my extra rocks for some of your extra space
rocks. I know meteorites are or can be expensive, so im willing to
trade what you think is fair. If you are looking for some specific
mineral/rock, ask and I may have a sample or two somewhere. Email me
at ryan.weidert at gmail.com if interested or have any questions. I'd
be glad to answer them (if I can haha)!
Thanks! Have a Great Week!
~ Ryan Weidert


I have the following Earth rocks up for trade:

All Photos-
http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/no-limitation/Rock%20Trade%20for%20Meteorites/

Olivine Nodules (volcanic bombs) - the same mineral in those beautiful
pallasites except from the Earths mantle, 30+ miles down!
    - whole with basalt crust
    - broken exposing crystals
    - numerous large fragments
    - cut pieces upon request

Olivine Sand (crushed and screened nodules)
    -  1mm unsorted
    - 1-2mm unsorted
    - 2-4mm unsorted
    - 3-5mm hand picked apple green crystals.
    - 2-3mm hand sorted apple green crystals.

Moqui Marbles
    - Classic newbie meteorwrongs

Obsidian Nodules
    - Classic newbie meteorwrongs
    - Some have nice regmaglypys
    - Appropriate meteorite color (no fresh glassy surfaces)


Other rocks...

Cleavelandite (Albite - a fledspar)
    - Large specimens (most over 10cm x 10cm
    - Many with mica

Quartz Crystals
    - A few larger ones (~5x10cm)
    - Opaque to near crystal clear

Geodes - Hauser Beds, Southern California
    - Uncut 'nodules' up too 8cm across.
    - hollow and solid

 Other.

Old Bottles
    - A wide variety - tall, short, clear, embossed etc.
    - Most worth a $1-2
    - No photos unless someone is interested.
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Re: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube

2010-05-17 Thread GERALD FLAHERTY
WOW and a 1/2, Marcin
What a great look. Nice work. They all show up splendidly!
Jerry
On May 17, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET wrote:

 Hello
 From long time I wanted to make a video documentation of my specimens (main 
 masses) before they needed to be cut into slices. Tooday I decided that its 
 time to start this experiment.
 
 I made several (i hope) good 360* movies with specimens from my collection 
 and my unclassified main masses that still waiting and waiting for their NWA 
 numbers. From other side its good that their classifications takes soo long, 
 becousese in other case, they will be in slices long time ago.
 
 Please, send me Your opinions, comments and remarks about my videos. In near 
 future I want make more movies with more efects and ofcourse longer. If 
 someone can turn off this rain over europe, I plan even make some in field 
 movies :)
 I use my new Panasonic Lumix TZ7 with HD movies and very simple, but good AVS 
 Video Editor.
 
 Please visit my Youtube account (10 movies)
 http://www.youtube.com/user/Polandmet#g/u
 
 
 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
 http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
 http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
 http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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Re: [meteorite-list] Pictures of Find Wisconsin Fall

2010-05-17 Thread Tom Randall (KB2SMS)


  Congrats and THANKS for sharing the photos!  I live vicariously  
though you folks when it comes to meteorites!


Tom


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[meteorite-list] A Want! WHO MIGHT OWN MY COLUMBUS, NEW MEXICO- Main Mass ????

2010-05-17 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,
I am seeking the where abouts of my Columbus, New Mexico, Main Mass?  I would 
purchase or trade back at a handsome  profit.
Please respond...
Best Wishes and Thanks
Michael Cottingham
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Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin School display donations and offerings

2010-05-17 Thread Michael Blood
 Hi All,
Well, it is disappointing, but  only about 5 or 6 people have
Donated and the total is around about $150 - certainly not enough
To do anything with when the specimens are $100/g. I guess we
MIGHT find ONE small stone, so at least they could have ONE.

Then there is the total lack of anyone offering to sell us even
One stone - even at full price. Zero, nada, zilch.

So, if y'all wanna do this yo goin ta hafta come up with at least
one stone offered for sale to us (even at full price) and it wouldn't hurt
to have some more donations come in.
If NO ONE comes up with offering us a small stone - even at
Full price, I will PayPal back a full refund to the few who have donated.

Sadly, Michael


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[meteorite-list] AD: Last Call Before I remove The Best Offer Feature On The Wisconsin Specimens.

2010-05-17 Thread michael cottingham


Hello,
This will be my add for the next week or two

I will be removing the Best Offer feature on all my remaining Wisconsin slices 
at this weeks end. The remaining pieces will remain in my ebay store, but at 
the set price and most likely will never see a sale. 
I pretty much have traded or sold all that I need to to recoup my 15 day field 
expenses, etc.  I am still open to good offers, but they need to be realistic 
due to the limited availability of specimens coming out of the field.  The 
fourth and fifth wave of hunters have pretty much returned empty handed. As far 
as I can tell no new specimens have been recovered (maybe a 10 gram one) and 
NOTHING has been showing up for sale that is new in about a week. I would call 
it over

See All Here- type in Wisconsin in my search box:
http://stores.ebay.com/VOYAGE-BOTANICA-NATURAL-HISTORY

I will be posting a essay on my time in Wisconsin very soon. 
Best Wishes and Thanks
Michael Cottingham

  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Massa meteorite from South Africa?

2010-05-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Good morning.

I know a Massa.

Massa was a working name of an early NWA, found in 1999.
Was an extremely fresh (W0!) H5. Must have been a larger find, the Catalogue
lists a tkw of 120kg.
Is superior material. Good black true fusion crust. Grey to light grey
matrix. Some black chondrules and has long metal veins running through,
similar like El Hammami. But all in all nicer, cause most of Hammami came
heftily oxidized to market.

Mainly Ahmed Pani from Vienna distributed it,
should still have some. (We have also a slice of a pound somewhere).
http://members.chello.at/panimeteorites/

It's in the Bulletin as NWA 1172.


Are you sure you bought from a specialized meteorite dealer?
Three meteorites without identification - that is very uncommon.
Sounds rather like it has been a normal mineral dealer, who got by accident
some meteorites too and as they often aren't aware of the importance of the
authenticity, respectively the provenience of a meteorite, with them,
something like that happens more often.

Best!
Martin



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Good morning everyone.
Many if you by now are aware of my little problem with that classified  
endcut that I bought a couple weeks or so ago at the Spring Denver show.

Anyway I also bought a 3.22g meteorite from that same dealer that is  
called MASSA from South Africa.

Well I just went to the Bulletin to read up on it and it isn't listed.  
Has anyone else heard of this meteorite or have any info on it. I  
tried Googling it but nothing came up. Is this going to be another bad  
learning experience??

He also almost sold me a frag of Stewart Valley. I checked that too on  
the Bulletin and the name did not come up also. Any info on Stewart  
Valley?

Lastly, I received no replies on the Find a Falling Star softcover I  
an selling so I'm lowering the price $45 OR BEST OFFER, plus shipping.

Regards,
Henry Mendoza
Aurora, CO

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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 18, 2010

2010-05-17 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/May_18_2010.html






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Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Last Call Before I remove The Best Offer Feature On The Wisconsin Specimens.

2010-05-17 Thread Joe Kerchner
I have seen photos of a 2kg stone from this fall, so there is more coming up. I 
know of a few newr find most under 40g but they are being found. Hope I am able 
to find more now that I have some coordinates of the newest finds Not 100%sure 
who purchased the Big 2kg stone, but have a good idea who it was.


-Original Message-
From: michael cottingham voyagebotan...@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 9:22 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Last Call Before I remove The Best Offer Feature 
On The Wisconsin Specimens.



Hello,
This will be my add for the next week or two

I will be removing the Best Offer feature on all my remaining Wisconsin slices 
at this weeks end. The remaining pieces will remain in my ebay store, but at 
the set price and most likely will never see a sale. 
I pretty much have traded or sold all that I need to to recoup my 15 day field 
expenses, etc.  I am still open to good offers, but they need to be realistic 
due to the limited availability of specimens coming out of the field.  The 
fourth and fifth wave of hunters have pretty much returned empty handed. As far 
as I can tell no new specimens have been recovered (maybe a 10 gram one) and 
NOTHING has been showing up for sale that is new in about a week. I would call 
it over

See All Here- type in Wisconsin in my search box:
http://stores.ebay.com/VOYAGE-BOTANICA-NATURAL-HISTORY

I will be posting a essay on my time in Wisconsin very soon. 
Best Wishes and Thanks
Michael Cottingham

  
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[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Find Registration UW-Madison

2010-05-17 Thread Greg Hupe

Hello All,

To all who found meteorites, or purchased stones from the original finders 
of the April 14, 2010 fall in southwestern Wisconsin, I encourage everyone 
to register these with the University of Wisconsin - Madison. In charge of 
this web site is Professor John Valley. I have already sent in the 
information for my two finds which included; Weight, Date of Find (I 
included time as well), GPS coordinates and Photos (if you can not send or 
take stones to John).


Here is a snip of John's reply to me earlier today:

We have three lists of meteorites.  One contains references that we find on 
the web or hear about second hand. The more  important list contains
all confirmed finds of falls from April 14.  We will put your samples on 
the confirmed list.   We also show pictures on our web site, but this is 
just the subset of samples that we have examined and photographed ourselves. 
I understand your reluctance to ship them to us. It would be very helpful to 
know the weights of your samples and the approx. (or exact) locations where 
you found them. This will help us to eventually define the distribution of 
the strewn field and the total mass of stones that were found. Thanks, John 
Valley


Here is the link to the Registration Page:
http://www.geology.wisc.edu/misc/meteorite-registry/

I would also encourage everyone who has not sent Richard Kowalski or Rob 
Matson this information to do so as well. The data that can be gleaned from 
this information will help these three parties with future meteorite 
recovery and other important science.


Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

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[meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School display donations and offerings

2010-05-17 Thread R N Hartman

Hello Michael,

Absolutely disgusting!

www.membranebox.com
will donate $100.00 even though I am not one of the hunters  and we will 
donate an appopriately sized membrane box for any specimen obtained.   I was 
born in Milwaukee so this can be a contribution to the local region's 
schools from me.  I would have thought that one of the local landowners 
woudl have donated one of the pieces found on their land.


Ron Hartman

(Payment to follow by Paypal)

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin School display donations 
andofferings




Hi All,
   Well, it is disappointing, but  only about 5 or 6 people have
Donated and the total is around about $150 - certainly not enough
To do anything with when the specimens are $100/g. I guess we
MIGHT find ONE small stone, so at least they could have ONE.

   Then there is the total lack of anyone offering to sell us even
One stone - even at full price. Zero, nada, zilch.

   So, if y'all wanna do this yo goin ta hafta come up with at least
one stone offered for sale to us (even at full price) and it wouldn't hurt
to have some more donations come in.
   If NO ONE comes up with offering us a small stone - even at
Full price, I will PayPal back a full refund to the few who have donated.

   Sadly, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School displaydonations and offerings

2010-05-17 Thread mail
Same here Michael. Just have been busy.
Hopefully some dealer can cut you a screamin deal on a small piece.
Matt Morgan

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215

-Original Message-
From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:26:16 
To: Michael Bloodmlbl...@cox.net; Meteorite 
Listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School display
donations and offerings

Hello Michael,

Absolutely disgusting!

www.membranebox.com
will donate $100.00 even though I am not one of the hunters  and we will 
donate an appopriately sized membrane box for any specimen obtained.   I was 
born in Milwaukee so this can be a contribution to the local region's 
schools from me.  I would have thought that one of the local landowners 
woudl have donated one of the pieces found on their land.

Ron Hartman

(Payment to follow by Paypal)

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin School display donations 
andofferings


 Hi All,
Well, it is disappointing, but  only about 5 or 6 people have
 Donated and the total is around about $150 - certainly not enough
 To do anything with when the specimens are $100/g. I guess we
 MIGHT find ONE small stone, so at least they could have ONE.

Then there is the total lack of anyone offering to sell us even
 One stone - even at full price. Zero, nada, zilch.

So, if y'all wanna do this yo goin ta hafta come up with at least
 one stone offered for sale to us (even at full price) and it wouldn't hurt
 to have some more donations come in.
If NO ONE comes up with offering us a small stone - even at
 Full price, I will PayPal back a full refund to the few who have donated.

Sadly, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Find Registration UW-Madison

2010-05-17 Thread Joe Kerchner
I have registered mine and hope everyone else will do the same.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:23 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: John Valley val...@geology.wisc.edu
Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Find Registration  UW-Madison

Hello All,

To all who found meteorites, or purchased stones from the original finders 
of the April 14, 2010 fall in southwestern Wisconsin, I encourage everyone 
to register these with the University of Wisconsin - Madison. In charge of 
this web site is Professor John Valley. I have already sent in the 
information for my two finds which included; Weight, Date of Find (I 
included time as well), GPS coordinates and Photos (if you can not send or 
take stones to John).

Here is a snip of John's reply to me earlier today:

We have three lists of meteorites.  One contains references that we find on 
the web or hear about second hand. The more  important list contains
 all confirmed finds of falls from April 14.  We will put your samples on 
the confirmed list.   We also show pictures on our web site, but this is 
just the subset of samples that we have examined and photographed ourselves 
I understand your reluctance to ship them to us. It would be very helpful to 
know the weights of your samples and the approx. (or exact) locations where 
you found them. This will help us to eventually define the distribution of 
the strewn field and the total mass of stones that were found. Thanks, John 
Valley

Here is the link to the Registration Page:
http://www.geology.wisc.edu/misc/meteorite-registry/

I would also encourage everyone who has not sent Richard Kowalski or Rob 
Matson this information to do so as well. The data that can be gleaned from 
this information will help these three parties with future meteorite 
recovery and other important science.

Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
gmh...@htn.net
www.LunarRock.com
IMCA 3163

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Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School displaydonations and offerings

2010-05-17 Thread Joe Kerchner
I offered a 5.3g piece for a good price. I would lose over $100, I would count 
that as my donati n.
Best wishes 
Joe kerchner 

-Original Message-
From: m...@mhmeteorites.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:31 PM
To: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net; Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net; 
Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School  
displaydonations and offerings

Same here Michael. Just have been busy.
Hopefully some dealer can cut you a screamin deal on a small piece.
Matt Morgan

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215

-Original Message-
From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:26:16 
To: Michael Bloodmlbl...@cox.net; Meteorite 
Listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School display
donations and offerings

Hello Michael,

Absolutely disgusting!

www.membranebox.com
will donate $100.00 even though I am not one of the hunters  and we will 
donate an appopriately sized membrane box for any specimen obtained.   I was 
born in Milwaukee so this can be a contribution to the local region's 
schools from me.  I would have thought that one of the local landowners 
woudl have donated one of the pieces found on their land.

Ron Hartman

(Payment to follow by Paypal)

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin School display donations 
andofferings


 Hi All,
Well, it is disappointing, but  only about 5 or 6 people have
 Donated and the total is around about $150 - certainly not enough
 To do anything with when the specimens are $100/g. I guess we
 MIGHT find ONE small stone, so at least they could have ONE.

Then there is the total lack of anyone offering to sell us even
 One stone - even at full price. Zero, nada, zilch.

So, if y'all wanna do this yo goin ta hafta come up with at least
 one stone offered for sale to us (even at full price) and it wouldn't hurt
 to have some more donations come in.
If NO ONE comes up with offering us a small stone - even at
 Full price, I will PayPal back a full refund to the few who have donated.

Sadly, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! WisconsinSchool displaydonations and offerings

2010-05-17 Thread mail
Great!
Michael, will Joe's piece work?
Matt

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215

-Original Message-
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:35:34 
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin
School  displaydonations and offerings

I offered a 5.3g piece for a good price. I would lose over $100, I would count 
that as my donati n.
Best wishes 
Joe kerchner 

-Original Message-
From: m...@mhmeteorites.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:31 PM
To: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net; Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net; 
Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School  
displaydonations and offerings

Same here Michael. Just have been busy.
Hopefully some dealer can cut you a screamin deal on a small piece.
Matt Morgan

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215

-Original Message-
From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:26:16 
To: Michael Bloodmlbl...@cox.net; Meteorite 
Listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin School display
donations and offerings

Hello Michael,

Absolutely disgusting!

www.membranebox.com
will donate $100.00 even though I am not one of the hunters  and we will 
donate an appopriately sized membrane box for any specimen obtained.   I was 
born in Milwaukee so this can be a contribution to the local region's 
schools from me.  I would have thought that one of the local landowners 
woudl have donated one of the pieces found on their land.

Ron Hartman

(Payment to follow by Paypal)

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin School display donations 
andofferings


 Hi All,
Well, it is disappointing, but  only about 5 or 6 people have
 Donated and the total is around about $150 - certainly not enough
 To do anything with when the specimens are $100/g. I guess we
 MIGHT find ONE small stone, so at least they could have ONE.

Then there is the total lack of anyone offering to sell us even
 One stone - even at full price. Zero, nada, zilch.

So, if y'all wanna do this yo goin ta hafta come up with at least
 one stone offered for sale to us (even at full price) and it wouldn't hurt
 to have some more donations come in.
If NO ONE comes up with offering us a small stone - even at
 Full price, I will PayPal back a full refund to the few who have donated.

Sadly, Michael


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Re: [meteorite-list] Massa meteorite from South Africa?

2010-05-17 Thread hxmendoza
Thank you Martin for your info. Very helpful.
This dealer deals in minerals, and fossils and some meteorites. I will  
never buy from him again as he is slow to follow thru and extremely  
disorganized. A total package deal of a learning experience for me!  I  
told him today about Massa not being listed and he said if i wanted to  
to send it back. But in all honesty, since i feel like I have had to  
pull teeth with him to get anywhere on the IDs I would probably be  
waiting for a while for a refund. It's a small specimen and didnt cost  
more then $20 if I recall correctly ( don't have the receipt in front  
of me right now). I'll just accept that i was a dumbass for dealing  
with this guy and never do it again. I have appreciated everyone's  
help with my inquiries my thanks to all of you.

Regards,
Henry Mendoza
Aurora, CO

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[meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorite trip report

2010-05-17 Thread wahlperry

Hi all,

I just returned home from my 3rd trip to the WI  strewnfield.  The 
remaining fields have been planted and the corn is starting to grow. 
The no- till fields you can still walk but will soon have vegetation 
covering the ground. Many of the hay fields have been cut. The beef 
cattle are calving, making access tough . We were able to locate 
numerous witnesses to the fireball East of Highway 23. The eye 
witnesses were at different sides of the fireball and two directly 
underneath  the explosions. Two miles West of this location I also 
talked with a land owner that saw the fireball explode overhead. The 
information placed the fireball on one of our direct lines and under 
the doppler returns. The farmers reported hearing the sound of a jet 
overhead  followed by a suction sound as the meteorite passed overhead 
as the ground rumbled.


The land owners granted us unlimited access to this 2 square mile area. 
Part of the field was freshly cut hay followed by a large no till field 
.  We spent many hours walking this area with no luck. As with the West 
Texas Fall many of the meteorites that landed on the worked fields 
buried themselves into the soil. Many of the meteorite hunters were 
able to recover meteorites by  placing a magnet cane into the holes in 
the soil.  The Wisconsin strewfield has received 1-2  of rain after 
the fireball and possible erased any hole that a meteorite may have 
made. The hay fields could still have meteorites on the surface but 
would be pushed into the soil from the hay cutter and then from the 
tractor that bails the hay. While walking the cut hay fields the larger 
rocks were still easy to see.


I would have to say along with many of the meteorite hunters still in 
the field, a large portion of  this fall will be lost due to 
cultivation and the location of  fall. My 3 meteorite hunting trips to 
Wisconsin were still a lot of fun and many new friends were made . I 
should have pictures and  a story up soon. On one of the days hunting I 
found a replacement for Brix , a calf that was born hours before. The 
calf followed me throughout the field staggering side to side as it 
gained strength. It was a great opportunity to take some photos of the 
young calf.



Sonny



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Re: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube

2010-05-17 Thread countdeiro
Really fine presentation. They sell themselves,
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536


-Original Message-
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
Sent: May 17, 2010 9:24 PM
To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Marcin 
Cimala - PolandMET mar...@meteoryt.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube

Beautiful Marcin.
--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Mon, 5/17/10, Marcin Cimala - PolandMET mar...@meteoryt.net wrote:

 From: Marcin Cimala - PolandMET mar...@meteoryt.net
 Subject: [meteorite-list] My meteorites on Youtube
 To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 4:59 PM
 Hello
  From long time I wanted to make a video documentation
 of my specimens (main 
 masses) before they needed to be cut into slices. Tooday I
 decided that its time to start this experiment.
 
 I made several (i hope) good 360* movies with specimens
 from my collection and my unclassified main masses that
 still waiting and waiting for their NWA numbers. From other
 side its good that their classifications takes soo long,
 becousese in other case, they will be in slices long time
 ago.
 
 Please, send me Your opinions, comments and remarks about
 my videos. In near future I want make more movies with more
 efects and ofcourse longer. If someone can turn off this
 rain over europe, I plan even make some in field movies :)
 I use my new Panasonic Lumix TZ7 with HD movies and very
 simple, but good AVS Video Editor.
 
 Please visit my Youtube account (10 movies)
 http://www.youtube.com/user/Polandmet#g/u
 
 
 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
 http://www.Meteoryty.pl       
      marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
 http://www.PolandMET.com   
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 (793) 567667
 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
 
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[meteorite-list] Michel Franco

2010-05-17 Thread bill kies


Hi all,
 
I'm trying to contact Michel Franco concerning his Titolar meteorite. Does 
anyone have current contact info for him?
 
Thanks,
Bill  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! WisconsinSchool displaydonations and offerings

2010-05-17 Thread Meteorites USA
Saying you would lose something by describing your donation as a loss is 
kinda screwed up way to give don't ya think?


Regards,
Eric



On 5/17/2010 8:39 PM, m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Joe Kerchnerskyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:35:34
To:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Here is a donation! Wisconsin
School  displaydonations and offerings

I offered a 5.3g piece for a good price. I would lose over $100, I would count 
that as my donati n.
Best wishes
Joe kerchner
   

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Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin strewn field data and map to UW-Madison

2010-05-17 Thread atul
Greg, joe
I have spoken to John  valley and will be providing them all  data and map for 
all 100 plus finds that I have collected and collated. I hope to finish 
tomorrow as well as scan the hand drawn map, which will be put on their site. 

This includes approx 20- 25 that I did not have - from Rob Matsons list but I 
do not have locations and pics  for those.
Please look through it when posted  and add incomplete data if possible.
This will be an ongoing project so please keep the data coming if you want to 
help.
Thanks to all who provided the info.

Can someone post the 2 kg pic on a site for me- joe?? -i  have  the pic.

Would like to know who has that stone as it was not authenticated .
Pls email me off list if you wish to remain on the sidelines, and your info 
will not be shared.

If anyone needs an area to look through before the map is posted- pls contact 
me off list. Regret the delay  but I do  not have it in emailable format. 

Regards
Atul kumar
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 22:33:55 
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Find Registration  UW-Madison

I have registered mine and hope everyone else will do the same.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 10:23 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: John Valley val...@geology.wisc.edu
Subject: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin Find Registration  UW-Madison

Hello All,

To all who found meteorites, or purchased stones from the original finders 
of the April 14, 2010 fall in southwestern Wisconsin, I encourage everyone 
to register these with the University of Wisconsin - Madison. In charge of 
this web site is Professor John Valley. I have already sent in the 
information for my two finds which included; Weight, Date of Find (I 
included time as well), GPS coordinates and Photos (if you can not send or 
take stones to John).

Here is a snip of John's reply to me earlier today:

We have three lists of meteorites.  One contains references that we find on 
the web or hear about second hand. The more  important list contains
 all confirmed finds of falls from April 14.  We will put your samples on 
the confirmed list.   We also show pictures on our web site, but this is 
just the subset of samples that we have examined and photographed ourselves 
I understand your reluctance to ship them to us. It would be very helpful to 
know the weights of your samples and the approx. (or exact) locations where 
you found them. This will help us to eventually define the distribution of 
the strewn field and the total mass of stones that were found. Thanks, John 
Valley

Here is the link to the Registration Page:
http://www.geology.wisc.edu/misc/meteorite-registry/

I would also encourage everyone who has not sent Richard Kowalski or Rob 
Matson this information to do so as well. The data that can be gleaned from 
this information will help these three parties with future meteorite 
recovery and other important science.

Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
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[meteorite-list] NEW FRANCONIA ARIZONA METEORITE SHOW

2010-05-17 Thread Tim Glidewell

   
New
 Show now playing at Prospecting Channel.com

  Franconia
 Arizona Meteorites
THIS IS THE 4TH SHOW IN AN ENTIRELY NEW SERIES MINERAL EXPEDITIONS   
with Tim Glidewell, now playing at Prospecting Channel. One of the  
great things about the Franconia Az strewnfield  is you stand a good  
chance of finding a meteorite. There are great interviews with local  
Meteorite hunter Jerry Baird, he shows off some big Franconia  
meteorites. You can view this new show and others 24 hours a day 7  
days a week for FREE.


  http 
://www.prospectingchannel.com/indexProgram.html

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[meteorite-list] My Time In Wisconsin - A Thanks, Advantages of Cooperation, and Extreme Disappointments!

2010-05-17 Thread michael cottingham

Hello,
The Wisconsin hunt was one of my most enjoyable meteorite hunts of all time. 
Mainly because the majority of local residents welcomed the meteorite hunters 
with an enthusiastic openness.  I have never seen more local people hunting for 
meteorites in my whole lifetime. The days following the Iowa-Grant Counties 
School event, I saw at least 50 people mowing their lawns in and around the 
school and entire families walking up and down the road looking for meteorites.
I was only turned down from hunting on one property, and that was because they 
had just sprayed chemicals on the fields and did not want people getting sick 
and suing them. They also, had turkey hunters in the woods and while I was 
disappointed, it was their land and it made perfect sense to me. Sad though, 
because it was right under the line!  
I saw some really beautiful country, filled with lovely rivers, farms, woods 
and unique limestone bluffs in some areas. I saw morel mushrooms, eagles and 
many, many medicine plants. On Mark's farm, in his woods, I saw thousands of 
little violets all with their purple flowers glowing and filling the forest 
with sweet fragrance.
I really enjoyed being with Jim Baxter when he found his very first meteorite 
in this lifetime, then another, and then another! fantastic! Jim is probably 
the winner, for the most stones, most weight,  in the shortest period of time 
-2 days of hunting I believe.
My thanks go out to the many people who allowed us to hunt their properties, to 
fellow meteorite hunters who shared data and obtained permission for others to 
hunt. People like Mike F., Terry B., Robert W., and others. To The Trelay seed 
people for allowing us to hunt the property around the school and in that great 
cluster of finds. To George Bailey, I found my 1st and 2nd meteorite on his 
farm. To Gola Finklemyer, where I found my 4th stone. One of the sweetest 
ladies you could ever hope to meet.
To Eric and Greg in the second week!  Great and easy going hunting partners.  I 
like to hunt alone most of the time, but hunting with Greg Hupe and Eric 
Whichman was about as fun as it gets... productive and easy going. 100% 
perfection in a team.  I would never hunt alone again, if I can hunt with men 
of such caliber.   Thanks to Rob Matson, for creating a new technique which was 
a joy to experiment with. Man, is he on to something!  Finding that 4th stone 
under his radar projection felt like a scientific breakthrough! So Cool!
Overall, there was an extreme amount of cooperation between people and as a 
result many, many stones were saved.  That school event was the most 
significant people event of this fall. The outcome of inspirational seeds that 
were planted by Mike and Terry will be felt by those children for years to 
come. The whole community was rocked by that school event! Bravo!  Should be a 
lesson for the next fall  immediately after a fall- schools should be 
approached and a lecture be given I believe that was what H. H. Nininger 
did a lot of the time.
I found 4 cool space stonesbut I made 40 new friends! I don't have to think 
too long to know which was the greater of the two treasures!
I am very disappointed in several meteorite hunters, both new and old to the 
game, who basically stole their meteorites from the land owners. I do not use 
those words lightly. To be given permission to hunt on ones property but to 
claim you found it on the public right of way and refuse to compensate the 
land owner in anyway . well folks that is plain wrong. Even if that stone 
was found on a public right of way, you would of not been there in the first 
place if the land owner hand not given you permission. Did you ever stop to 
think what impact this behavior might have for everyone else in the field. NO 
YOU DID NOT.  Well, stolen meteorite number one made the land owners very angry 
and they shut down a prime part of the strewn field. No meteorites recovered 
there! Lost and gone for good.  In fact they talked to neighbors and got other 
property closed for the rest of us. So while you got your big prize, the rest 
of us had to deal with your dishonest deed. You know who you are. The second 
stolen meteorite, well you know who you are as well funny that you stated 
you found your piece in the public right of way ...I guess that stone belongs 
to the State of Wisconsin. You may wish that it did indeed belong to the land 
owners after all
I will not tolerate meteorite hunters who are working side by side with the 
rest of us and who steal meteorites from the land owners and thus leave an 
image of theft and piracy on all members of this community.  This meteorite 
community is growing and getting more attention than ever before and if your 
greed and thieving ways continue in the field on the next fall I will drag 
you out into the open and expose you to the world.  I will also assist any 
landowner who might want to prosecute you for breach of contract and theft. 

[meteorite-list] NEW FRANCONIA ARIZONA METEORITE SHOW

2010-05-17 Thread Tim Glidewell
New Show now playing at Prospecting Channel.com Franconia Arizona  
Meteorites


THIS IS THE 4TH SHOW IN AN ENTIRELY NEW SERIES MINERAL EXPEDITIONS   
with Tim Glidewell, now playing at Prospecting Channel. One of the  
great things about the Franconia Az strewnfield  is you stand a good  
chance of finding a meteorite. There are great interviews with local  
Meteorite hunter Jerry Baird, he shows off some big Franconia  
meteorites. You can view this new show and others 24 hours a day 7  
days a week for FREE.   http://www.prospectingchannel.com/indexProgram.html

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