Re: [meteorite-list] 2008 - A busy year for Falls (Nine) - Any other busy years?
Hello, Nice page Mike. I can say that you could include one more meteorite in this list. Here in Brazil we had a fall after a fireball of June 19. The fisrt fragment was found in the city of Varre-Sai (Rio de Janeiro state), and other fragments were found since then (I think that the total now is around 5), including a fragment found in the neighboor city in the Espirito Santo state. The only site in english I found is this one: http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2010/06/brazil-meteor-fireball-produces.html And this is a possible video of the event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylTTBM2rBq8 Regards, Gabriel Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:34:43 -0400 From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] 2008 - A busy year for Falls (Nine) - Any otherbusy years? To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: aanlkti=nm2er4_akfxor=frcqcb=vpwrybo=yrb81...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi List, I was adding Zunhua to my list of 21st Century Falls and I noticed that 2008 was a very busy year for falls - nine falls, or almost one per month. http://www.galactic-stone.com/pages/falls 2002 saw eight falls, but so far 2008 is the busiest year of the 21st century. Oddly, there were no recorded falls in 2005. I find that hard to believe. Surely one meteorite must have fallen somewhere during 2005. Does anyone know of any good 2005 candidates that were never recovered? Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage
Wouldn't the head of the Kamil expedition, Dr. Luigi Folco, be the qualified authority to comment on the photos he and his team produced on the site? I asked him whether the two photos show two different finds or the same 83 kg mass. http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_1big.jpg http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_3big.jpg The kind gentlemen that he is, Dr. Folco took the time to reply to my trivial question. Quote: Dear Dr Buhl, The two pictures feature the same 83 kg regmaglypted individual of the Gebel Kamil meteorite. Its just a matter of different perspectives. Sincerely, Luigi End of quote. Regards, Svend Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com hat am 30. Juli 2010 um 07:16 geschrieben: Hello Regine, All, While I agree that the overall shapes of the irons are similar, and concede that you probably know more about photography than I do, I do know much about in-situ photographs and desert terrain. The trouble with assuming that the photo on the left is a cleaned-up version is the following, which I'd like to condense and then apply. #1 Photo 1: meteorite 1/2 buried Photo 2: meteorite on surface #2 Photo 1: meteorite clean Photo 2: meteorite covered in dirt #3 Photo 1: meteorite in undisturbed soil, surroundings Photo 2: meteorite on surface, may have been moved (dirt/rocks on surface would suggest otherwise, but possible). Surroundings themselves look undisturbed. #4 Photo 1: meteorite in sandy area, small rocks Photo 2: meteorite in rocky area So, #1. The photograph on the left shows a meteorite well-embedded in the ground. And the surface soil has been moved in only two locations around the entire meteorite (#3). There is a left-handprint that clearly breaks up the uniform texture of the undisturbed ground in front of/to the left of the iron, and it looks as though someone poked the ground a few inches in front of the pen used for scale. The rest is undisturbed desert pavement. If you were to step on it, you'd change the surface -- and it won't be the same until after the next rain. Apply #4. They clearly didn't move the large rocks from around the meteorite on the right because the ground around the meteorite on the left is almost entirely undisturbed. The meteorite on the left is undisturbed as well (and it's half-buried, as opposed to being on the surface); compare to the photograph on the right. Both meteorites have tapering ends. But in the photograph on the right, the tail-end is clearly several inches above the ground. The photograph on the left shows no such thing. That meteorite (on the left) is really sitting *in* the ground, as opposed to on top of it (again, compare to right-hand photo). I suppose you could chalk this up to an optical illusion, but I really don't think that it is. Take a look... Again, the meteorite on the left is half buried, yet clean, and in an undisturbed, rock-free area. The meteorite on the right is sitting on the surface of the ground, is covered with rock and dirt, and is also sitting in a relatively unaltered bit of desert. This is what happens if you step on similar ground. http://vormedia.com/images/mono2037.jpg http://media1.z2.zoopy.com/media/2009/05/20/7304/42304/original.jpg Compare to each meteorite photo. They're both sitting in pretty pristine desert. Not even a footprint. It's a textural thing. If you're saying that they cleaned up the photo on the right to make the one on the left, you're going to have to explain why they wanted to bury the iron deeper into the ground than it was in the first place, how they did so without disturbing the desert pavement in the immediate vicinity of the meteorite, and how they removed the rocks and made the new surface look as though it had never been disturbed. I've taken far too many in-situ photographs of meteorites in desert conditions; even stepping on a hard-pan lakebed can leave visible traces in photos. Both photos on this site show the meteorite(s) in undisturbed terrain, and yet one is sitting in the ground, and one is sitting on top of it. If we are looking at two photos of the same meteorite (which I doubt), the meteorite must have been moved, but if it was, it was from the left photo to the right photo. And whoever was carrying it was able to set it down without even stepping on the ground visible in the photo. It's hard to do that when you're carrying nearly 180 pounds. I have no agenda/reason for saying this; it makes no difference to me whether or not there are one or two such irons. But I'm seeing double, and they really don't look like twins. Regards, Jason On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Regine Petersen fips_br...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi all, I'm fairly new to meteorites but I do know a bit more about photographs. Quite a couple of times I have looked at different images of the same meteorite and thought at first glance they
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage
If that's the case, they must have moved it from the left photo to the right photo...but that doesn't make too much sense to me, given what we can see in each photo. Interesting... Regards, Jason On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:22 AM, i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de wrote: Wouldn't the head of the Kamil expedition, Dr. Luigi Folco, be the qualified authority to comment on the photos he and his team produced on the site? I asked him whether the two photos show two different finds or the same 83 kg mass. http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_1big.jpg http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_3big.jpg The kind gentlemen that he is, Dr. Folco took the time to reply to my trivial question. Quote: Dear Dr Buhl, The two pictures feature the same 83 kg regmaglypted individual of the Gebel Kamil meteorite. Its just a matter of different perspectives. Sincerely, Luigi End of quote. Regards, Svend Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com hat am 30. Juli 2010 um 07:16 geschrieben: Hello Regine, All, While I agree that the overall shapes of the irons are similar, and concede that you probably know more about photography than I do, I do know much about in-situ photographs and desert terrain. The trouble with assuming that the photo on the left is a cleaned-up version is the following, which I'd like to condense and then apply. #1 Photo 1: meteorite 1/2 buried Photo 2: meteorite on surface #2 Photo 1: meteorite clean Photo 2: meteorite covered in dirt #3 Photo 1: meteorite in undisturbed soil, surroundings Photo 2: meteorite on surface, may have been moved (dirt/rocks on surface would suggest otherwise, but possible). Surroundings themselves look undisturbed. #4 Photo 1: meteorite in sandy area, small rocks Photo 2: meteorite in rocky area So, #1. The photograph on the left shows a meteorite well-embedded in the ground. And the surface soil has been moved in only two locations around the entire meteorite (#3). There is a left-handprint that clearly breaks up the uniform texture of the undisturbed ground in front of/to the left of the iron, and it looks as though someone poked the ground a few inches in front of the pen used for scale. The rest is undisturbed desert pavement. If you were to step on it, you'd change the surface -- and it won't be the same until after the next rain. Apply #4. They clearly didn't move the large rocks from around the meteorite on the right because the ground around the meteorite on the left is almost entirely undisturbed. The meteorite on the left is undisturbed as well (and it's half-buried, as opposed to being on the surface); compare to the photograph on the right. Both meteorites have tapering ends. But in the photograph on the right, the tail-end is clearly several inches above the ground. The photograph on the left shows no such thing. That meteorite (on the left) is really sitting *in* the ground, as opposed to on top of it (again, compare to right-hand photo). I suppose you could chalk this up to an optical illusion, but I really don't think that it is. Take a look... Again, the meteorite on the left is half buried, yet clean, and in an undisturbed, rock-free area. The meteorite on the right is sitting on the surface of the ground, is covered with rock and dirt, and is also sitting in a relatively unaltered bit of desert. This is what happens if you step on similar ground. http://vormedia.com/images/mono2037.jpg http://media1.z2.zoopy.com/media/2009/05/20/7304/42304/original.jpg Compare to each meteorite photo. They're both sitting in pretty pristine desert. Not even a footprint. It's a textural thing. If you're saying that they cleaned up the photo on the right to make the one on the left, you're going to have to explain why they wanted to bury the iron deeper into the ground than it was in the first place, how they did so without disturbing the desert pavement in the immediate vicinity of the meteorite, and how they removed the rocks and made the new surface look as though it had never been disturbed. I've taken far too many in-situ photographs of meteorites in desert conditions; even stepping on a hard-pan lakebed can leave visible traces in photos. Both photos on this site show the meteorite(s) in undisturbed terrain, and yet one is sitting in the ground, and one is sitting on top of it. If we are looking at two photos of the same meteorite (which I doubt), the meteorite must have been moved, but if it was, it was from the left photo to the right photo. And whoever was carrying it was able to set it down without even stepping on the ground visible in the photo. It's hard to do that when you're carrying nearly 180 pounds. I have no agenda/reason for saying this; it makes no difference to me whether or not there are one or two such irons. But I'm seeing double, and they really don't look like
[meteorite-list] AD: NWA 6259 - 42% Nickel Ataxite update
Dear List members, now i have prepared some small fine mirror polished slices of my new NWA 6259 - Ataxite with 42% Nickel for sale. For order or questions please contact me off list. http://www.meteorite-mirko.de/0334af9d8f00fba02/0334af9dc00eec502/index.php Many greetings to all, Mirko Dear Curators, Scientists, Collectors and List members, I would like to introduce to you my newest, sensational desert iron and offer the first slices I have for sale. This new iron is a truly spectacular meteorite – not only for me. It’s NWA 6259. It was classified by Prof. John Wasson (UCLA - University of California, Los Angeles) and even Prof. Wasson is definitely enthusiastic about the results of the classification as this iron is a nickel-rich ataxite! (Iron ungrouped or IAB ungrouped) Believe me if I say Ni-rich, I also mean Ni-rich! This new iron has a nickel content of 42.6% making NWA 6259 the iron with the second highest Ni content. There is only one other iron with a higher nickel content: Oktibbeha County with a nickel content of about 60%. Unfortunately, the TKW of Oktibbeha is a mere 156g, so little if anything at all will be found in private collections! Well, if you really want to add a true rarity to your collection, NWA 6259 is your deal. Even the Dermbach iron with the hitherto second highest nickel content of 41.9%, can’t compete with NWA 6259. So, go for it, grab this opportunity and place your order for a slice of the iron meteorite with the second highest nickel content! I am absolutely sure I haven’t promised too much. Both the scientific community and you meteorite collectors out there will be pleased and share my enthusiasm about this one-of-a-time offer. Let me add as an additional piece of information that this iron is itself magnetic (i.e. it is not only attracted to a magnetic – it is itself magnetic!) so you can – if you want to - pick up metal objects that contain iron. The slices I’m offering were cut with a diamond wire saw, are polished to a mirror finish on one side while the back side displays an excellent diamond wire saw cut. Of special note are also the numerous small troilite inclusions in these slices. The pricing is $40/g and I think this is indeed a reasonable price. I even think it is a good price for this 2010 iron highlight! If interested in this must-have iron, if I succeeded in whetting your appetite in a rare addition to your collection, please feel free to contact me off-list for smaller as well as larger slices of this unique iron. Shipping and handling in Germany $6 / Europe $8 and worldwide $12 via registered airmail parcel. http://www.meteorite-mirko.de/0334af9d8f00fba02/0334af9dc00eec502/index.php Many greetings to all Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs
Greg There is no outright policy on collecting meteorwrongs in the museum. That is not to say that we have not acquired a number of these over the years. Our most famous meteorwrong is the so-called Newstead Meteorite which was recognised as a bona-fide meteorite until the early part of the Twentieth Century when it was discredited and removed for the British Museum's (now the Natural History Museum of London's) Catalogue of Meteorites. Now that I am expanding my activities into teaching and demonstrations in schools and elsewhere, using meteorwrongs is a very good way of showing people how to differentiate potential finds. It is therefore essential that I build up a good collection of wrong 'uns to use as examples. Thus whenever I get a meteorite enquiry, I always ask the inquirer if they would like to donate the object to the museum. Most people are happy to do so as it saves the trouble of having to dispose of them. It is, I admit, a fairly ad-hoc arrangement but I now have quite a few to work with. Hope everyone has a great weekend Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Scotland Tel: 00 44 131 247 4283 E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Thunder Stone Sent: 29 July 2010 20:57 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs List: Does anyone have a meteorwrong collection? And I don't mean black magnetic rocks you may have found (like ones in my garage), but a collection of really 'good' meteorwrongs that could perhaps fool people. That actually would be quite interesting. Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Liven up your lunchtime with Free Fringe Music from 9-29 August at the National Museum of Scotland www.nms.ac.uk/fringe National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 6259 - 42% Nickel Ataxite update
Mirko Graul wrote: Dear List members, now i have prepared some small fine mirror polished slices of my new NWA 6259 - Ataxite with 42% Nickel for sale. Hello Listees, Listoids, Listers, My beautiful 3.251-gram slice of this iron (it can still be admired on Mirko's sales page) with the 2nd highest nickel content arrived today and almost blew my socks off. Seldom before have I seen such an amazing iron meteorite - only exception (maybe) Gebel Kamil! Thank you, Mirko! Best wishes, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: August and November issues of Meteorite magazine
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[meteorite-list] AD - Nininger complete book collection
Hello list members, I am offering a Nininger complete book collection. Please e mail me off-list for more information. A lot of pictures from these offer can also bee seen at the german meteorite list: http://www.jgr-apolda.eu/index.php?topic=5508.15 If you are interested, make me an offer at: gegensch...@gmx.de Thank you, Uwe -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ] Meteorites as Ammunition
How strange you should ask. A friend of mine and I decided to make some projectiles a round 6 weeks ago. I am using 1 inch slabs of Campo, and having the bullets cut out on a water jet, then finnished on a lathe. They will be shot using a 50 BMG rifle with a sabot. As soon as Nosler Bullets gets back up and running,( they had an explosion a little bit ago) we should have some slow Motion closeup balistic shots to enjoy. We want to try this on Materials like Robert Bigelows inflatable space structures. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Book: Origin of Life
Hello All, just got this interesting e-mail and link: Dear Peter, I am pleased to let you know that my book is now published on the web as a Community Book in the Internet Archive of Columbia International University. You may reach it in http://www.archive.org/details/OriginOfLife or, still better, in a full page format in http://www.archive.org/stream/OriginOfLife?ui=embed With kind regards, I wish you have a pleasant Summer. Hernani Best, Peter http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage
Svend and List, With all due respect to my fellow Italian, Dr. Luigi Folco, the subject of the pics, as he confirms, may be the same meteorite, but it doesn't take a very close observation to see that, rather than the pics being taken of the same subject from a different perspective, they were taken at two entirely different locations. The meteorite has been moved and further...it has had regolith intentionally, or unintentionally scattered on it. For God's sake look at the size of that material in the regs! And those fist sized rocks next to meteorite in one pic and absent in the other. The question begs to be asked, SvendLuigi, did your folks move it after one of the pics was taken? It certainly looks as if someone did move it and further, added, or removed, debris from it's surface. Best regards, Guido -Original Message- From: i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de i...@niger-meteorite-recon.de Sent: Jul 30, 2010 3:22 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil webpage Wouldn't the head of the Kamil expedition, Dr. Luigi Folco, be the qualified authority to comment on the photos he and his team produced on the site? I asked him whether the two photos show two different finds or the same 83 kg mass. http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_1big.jpg http://www.b14643.de/Sahara/Kamil_Patatrac_Crater/Kamil_3big.jpg The kind gentlemen that he is, Dr. Folco took the time to reply to my trivial question. Quote: Dear Dr Buhl, The two pictures feature the same 83 kg regmaglypted individual of the Gebel Kamil meteorite. Its just a matter of different perspectives. Sincerely, Luigi End of quote. Regards, Svend Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com hat am 30. Juli 2010 um 07:16 geschrieben: Hello Regine, All, While I agree that the overall shapes of the irons are similar, and concede that you probably know more about photography than I do, I do know much about in-situ photographs and desert terrain. The trouble with assuming that the photo on the left is a cleaned-up version is the following, which I'd like to condense and then apply. #1 Photo 1: meteorite 1/2 buried Photo 2: meteorite on surface #2 Photo 1: meteorite clean Photo 2: meteorite covered in dirt #3 Photo 1: meteorite in undisturbed soil, surroundings Photo 2: meteorite on surface, may have been moved (dirt/rocks on surface would suggest otherwise, but possible). Surroundings themselves look undisturbed. #4 Photo 1: meteorite in sandy area, small rocks Photo 2: meteorite in rocky area So, #1. The photograph on the left shows a meteorite well-embedded in the ground. And the surface soil has been moved in only two locations around the entire meteorite (#3). There is a left-handprint that clearly breaks up the uniform texture of the undisturbed ground in front of/to the left of the iron, and it looks as though someone poked the ground a few inches in front of the pen used for scale. The rest is undisturbed desert pavement. If you were to step on it, you'd change the surface -- and it won't be the same until after the next rain. Apply #4. They clearly didn't move the large rocks from around the meteorite on the right because the ground around the meteorite on the left is almost entirely undisturbed. The meteorite on the left is undisturbed as well (and it's half-buried, as opposed to being on the surface); compare to the photograph on the right. Both meteorites have tapering ends. But in the photograph on the right, the tail-end is clearly several inches above the ground. The photograph on the left shows no such thing. That meteorite (on the left) is really sitting *in* the ground, as opposed to on top of it (again, compare to right-hand photo). I suppose you could chalk this up to an optical illusion, but I really don't think that it is. Take a look... Again, the meteorite on the left is half buried, yet clean, and in an undisturbed, rock-free area. The meteorite on the right is sitting on the surface of the ground, is covered with rock and dirt, and is also sitting in a relatively unaltered bit of desert. This is what happens if you step on similar ground. http://vormedia.com/images/mono2037.jpg http://media1.z2.zoopy.com/media/2009/05/20/7304/42304/original.jpg Compare to each meteorite photo. They're both sitting in pretty pristine desert. Not even a footprint. It's a textural thing. If you're saying that they cleaned up the photo on the right to make the one on the left, you're going to have to explain why they wanted to bury the iron deeper into the ground than it was in the first place, how they did so without disturbing the desert pavement in the immediate vicinity of the meteorite, and how they removed the rocks and made the new surface look as though it had never been disturbed. I've taken far too many in-situ photographs of meteorites in desert conditions;
[meteorite-list] AD-NWA 869 lots, ebay auctions
Aloha mai kakou, I have NWA 869 L4-6 in 100g and 500g lots available. I thought I would offer them here on the metlist before listing them on ebay. Mention you're a metlist member and I'll knock off 10%. Just email me offlist for purchase information: http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/NWA869.html The Big Kahuna's regular weekly ebay auctions end in less than 24 hours, on Saturday, July 31, starting at 9:00 am Pacific / 12:00 pm Eastern / 5:00 pm London / 7:00 pm Helsinki / 12:00 am Singapore. Among the items on the block: Bencubbin CBa 6.20g beautifully prepared slice, below market! NWA 6075 Lod 1.39g slice of 3D brecciation sweetness, only $70 NWA 869 L4-6 11.75g Perfect oriented shield - take a look, $31 Camel Donga Euc 1.49g A Gorgeous Little Pea, with a bid of $1 Tatahouine Dio 5.00g Lot of striking green fragments, only $30 Sikhote Alin IIAB 22.76g Saucer shaped oriented piece, no bids! Tungsten Carbide scale cubes, superb quality brushed blk, $25 ... plus NWA 6149 oli dio, Bassikounou, oriented Chergach, Lunar meteorite pendant vial, NWA x poss achondrite slices, NWA 2690 euc, , the freshest Allende, Admire, Vaca Muerta, Toufassour, Henbury, Canyon Diablo, Taza, Mendota, Darwin Glass, a Big Kahuna tee shirt, and much, much more! LOOK HERE: http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: NWA 6259 - 42% Nickel Ataxite update
Dear List members, thank you for the interest and questions. Photos of the single iron mass before cutting and 955g Main Mass you can find in the Meteoritical Bulletin Database. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?sea=NWA+6259sfor=namesants=falls=valids=stype=containslrec=50map=gebrowse=country=Allsrt=namecateg=Allmblist=Allrect=phot=snew=0pnt=Normal tablecode=51829 Many greetings Mirko --- Dear List members, now i have prepared some small fine mirror polished slices of my new NWA 6259 - Ataxite with 42% Nickel for sale. For order or questions please contact me off list. http://www.meteorite-mirko.de/0334af9d8f00fba02/0334af9dc00eec502/index.php Many greetings to all, Mirko --- Dear Curators, Scientists, Collectors and List members, I would like to introduce to you my newest, sensational desert iron and offer the first slices I have for sale. This new iron is a truly spectacular meteorite – not only for me. It’s NWA 6259. It was classified by Prof. John Wasson (UCLA - University of California, Los Angeles) and even Prof. Wasson is definitely enthusiastic about the results of the classification as this iron is a nickel-rich ataxite! (Iron ungrouped or IAB ungrouped) Believe me if I say Ni-rich, I also mean Ni-rich! This new iron has a nickel content of 42.6% making NWA 6259 the iron with the second highest Ni content. There is only one other iron with a higher nickel content: Oktibbeha County with a nickel content of about 60%. Unfortunately, the TKW of Oktibbeha is a mere 156g, so little if anything at all will be found in private collections! Well, if you really want to add a true rarity to your collection, NWA 6259 is your deal. Even the Dermbach iron with the hitherto second highest nickel content of 41.9%, can’t compete with NWA 6259. So, go for it, grab this opportunity and place your order for a slice of the iron meteorite with the second highest nickel content! I am absolutely sure I haven’t promised too much. Both the scientific community and you meteorite collectors out there will be pleased and share my enthusiasm about this one-of-a-time offer. Let me add as an additional piece of information that this iron is itself magnetic (i.e. it is not only attracted to a magnetic – it is itself magnetic!) so you can – if you want to - pick up metal objects that contain iron. The slices I’m offering were cut with a diamond wire saw, are polished to a mirror finish on one side while the back side displays an excellent diamond wire saw cut. Of special note are also the numerous small troilite inclusions in these slices. The pricing is $40/g and I think this is indeed a reasonable price. I even think it is a good price for this 2010 iron highlight! If interested in this must-have iron, if I succeeded in whetting your appetite in a rare addition to your collection, please feel free to contact me off-list for smaller as well as larger slices of this unique iron. Shipping and handling in Germany $6 / Europe $8 and worldwide $12 via registered airmail parcel. http://www.meteorite-mirko.de/0334af9d8f00fba02/0334af9dc00eec502/index.php Many greetings to all Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] a fresh fall , the taous fall
hello all; from my summer holidays ; our hunters brought to me the the new fall ; precisely the taous fall; i guess its very nice chondrite; but loook so strange to compare to any ll or h, it looks a little difrent enjoy photo http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/ aziz habibi habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - July 28, 2010
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES July 28, 2010 o Bull's-Eye Impact Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_018522_2270 o Layered Rocks in a Crater in Arabia Terra http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002574_1865 o Dark Dunes in Herschel Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002860_1650 o Layered Deposits in Aureum Chaos http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002892_1760 o Dust Fans on the Seasonal Carbon Dioxide Polar Cap http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003180_0945 o Popular Landform in Cydonia Region http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003234_2210 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Martian Dust Devil Whirls Into Opportunity's View
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-250 Martian Dust Devil Whirls Into Opportunity's View Jet Propulsion Laboratory July 28, 2010 In its six-and-a-half years on Mars, NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity had never seen a dust devil before this month, despite some systematic searches in past years and the fact that its twin rover, Spirit, has seen dozens of dust devils at its location halfway around the planet. A tall column of swirling dust appears in a routine image that Opportunity took with its panoramic camera on July 15. The rover took the image in the drive direction, east-southeastward, right after a drive of about 70 meters (230 feet). The image was taken for use in planning the next drive. This is the first dust devil seen by Opportunity, said Mark Lemmon of Texas AM University, College Station, a member of the rover science team. Spirit's area, inside Gusev Crater, is rougher in ground texture, and dustier, than the area where Opportunity is working in the Meridiani Planum region. Those factors at Gusev allow vortices of wind to form more readily and raise more dust, compared to conditions at Meridiani, Lemmon explained. Orbiters have photographed tracks left by dust devils near Opportunity, but the tracks are scarcer there than near Spirit. Swirling winds at Meridiani may be more common than visible signs of them, if the winds occur where there is no loose dust to disturb. Just one day before Opportunity captured the dust devil image, wind cleaned some of the dust off the rover's solar array, increasing electricity output from the array by more than 10 percent. That might have just been a coincidence, but there could be a connection, Lemmon said. The team is resuming systematic checks for afternoon dust devils with Opportunity's navigation camera, for the first time in about three years. Opportunity and Spirit arrived on Mars in January 2004 for missions designed to last for three months. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover Project for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington. For more information about the project and images from the rovers, visit http://www.nasa.gov/rovers. Guy Webster (818) 354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov 2010-250 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's Hibernating Mars Rover May Not Call Home
July 30, 2010 J.D. Harrington Headquarters, Washington 202-358-5241 j.d.harring...@nasa.gov Guy Webster Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-6278 guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov RELEASE: 10-182 NASA'S HIBERNATING MARS ROVER MAY NOT CALL HOME WASHINGTON -- NASA mission controllers have not heard from the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit since March 22, and the rover is facing its toughest challenge yet -- trying to survive the harsh Martian winter. The rover team anticipated Spirit would go into a low-power hibernation mode since the rover was not able to get to a favorable slope for its fourth Martian winter, which runs from May through November. The low angle of sunlight during these months limits the power generated from the rover's solar panels. During hibernation, the rover suspends communications and other activities so available energy can be used to recharge and heat batteries, and to keep the mission clock running. On July 26, mission managers began using a paging technique called sweep and beep in an effort to communicate with Spirit. Instead of just listening, we send commands to the rover to respond back to us with a communications beep, said John Callas, project manager for Spirit and Opportunity at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. If the rover is awake and hears us, she will send us that beep. Based on models of Mars' weather and its effect on available power, mission managers believe that if Spirit responds, it most likely will be in the next few months. However, there is a very distinct possibility Spirit may never respond. It will be the miracle from Mars if our beloved rover phones home, said Doug McCuistion, director of NASA's Mars Exploration Program in Washington. It's never faced this type of severe condition before -- this is unknown territory. Because most of the rover's heaters were not being powered this winter, Spirit is likely experiencing its coldest internal temperatures yet -- minus 67 degrees Fahrenheit. During three previous Martian winters, Spirit communicated about once or twice a week with Earth and used its heaters to stay warm while parked on a sun-facing slope for the winter. As a result, the heaters were able to keep internal temperatures above minus 40 degrees Fahrenheit. Spirit is designed to wake up from its hibernation and communicate with Earth when its battery charge is adequate. But if the batteries have lost too much power, Spirit's clock may stop and lose track of time. The rover could still reawaken, but it would not know the time of day, a situation called a mission-clock fault. Spirit would start a new timer to wake up every four hours and listen for a signal from Earth for 20 minutes of every hour while the sun is up. The earliest date the rover could generate enough power to send a beep to Earth was calculated to be around July 23. However, mission managers don't anticipate the batteries will charge adequately until late September to mid-October. It may be even later if the rover is in a mission-clock fault mode. If Spirit does wake up, mission managers will do a complete health check on the rover's instruments and electronics. Based on previous Martian winters, the rover team anticipates the increasing haziness in the sky over Spirit will offset longer daylight for the next two months. The amount of solar energy available to Spirit then will increase until the southern Mars summer solstice in March 2011. If we haven't heard from it by March, it is unlikely that we will ever hear from it. This has been a long winter for Spirit, and a long wait for us, said Steve Squyres, the principal investigator for NASA's two rovers who is based at Cornell University. Even if we never heard from Spirit again, I think her scientific legacy would be secure. But we're hopeful we will hear from her, and we're eager to get back to doing science with two rovers again. Spirit and its twin, Opportunity, began exploring Mars in January 2004 on missions planned to last three months. Spirit has been nearly stationary since April 2009, while Opportunity is driving toward a large crater named Endeavour. Opportunity covered more distance in 2009 than in any prior year. Both rovers have made important discoveries about wet environments on ancient Mars that may have been favorable for supporting microbial life. NASA's JPL manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. For more information about the rovers, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/rovers -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions - Kramer Creek, Kendleton, Homestead...
Dear List, We have another installment of bi-weekly auctions is ending in 48 hours. Most everything is still at a dollar including some rarities like Kramer Creek, Colorado. If you have a free moment, take a look: http://shop.ebay.com/historic-meteorites/m.html Have a great weekend! --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorite1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Getting To Mars On A Budget
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1007/29scout/ Getting to Mars on a budget BY STEPHEN CLARK SPACEFLIGHT NOW July 29, 2010 NASA is discontinuing the Mars Scout line of relatively low-cost missions to the Red Planet, but there is still an opening for resourceful scientists seeking an inexpensive ticket for Mars research. The end of the Mars Scout program comes after it fostered two missions, the Phoenix polar lander launched in 2007 and the MAVEN orbiter that will study the Martian atmosphere after its 2013 blastoff. NASA says it is scrapping the Mars Scout mission line because future Martian probes will be heading to the surface. Most lander missions are more expensive than orbiters, and it would be challenging for a future surface probe to fit within the $485 million cost cap for Scout projects. Doug McCuistion, NASA's chief Mars program official, said the agency is opening up its Discovery program to robotic Mars missions, beginning with an ongoing competition to select the next solar system exploration mission for launch between 2015 and 2017. We're in a phase where surface science is becoming more and more the driving factor at Mars, McCuistion said in a July 14 interview. Launched in the 1990s, the Discovery program broke onto the public stage with the highly successful Pathfinder rover that landed on Mars in 1997. Pathfinder was the Discovery program's second mission. But NASA later shut out Mars from Discovery competitions, decreeing proposals could go anywhere in the solar system except Mars or the sun. The agency formed the Mars Scout program to develop budget-minded projects devoted to the Red Planet, while NASA also accelerated more costly and ambitious missions to Mars. NASA kicked off the competition for the 12th Discovery mission in June and is collecting proposals from science teams through Sept. 3. Officials plan to choose candidates in April 2011 and announce the final selection in June 2012. Discovery proposals must cost less than $425 million, not including partnerships or launch services. Phil Christensen, an Arizona State University scientist, said he is involved in several Mars proposals for the next Discovery mission. I really don't know how Mars will fare in the Discovery program, but there certainly are a lot of non-Mars concepts, Christensen told Spaceflight Now. I think if the Mars concepts have the highest science value then they will be very seriously considered, especially since there is currently no other way to get small mission concepts flown to Mars. Christensen is a prolific Mars researcher and currently works on the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, Mars Odyssey, and Spirit and Opportunity rovers. None of his Discovery proposals are surface missions, Christensen said. I suspect someone might try to do one, but that will be pretty challenging in the Discovery program, Christensen said. Peter Smith, the lead scientist on the Phoenix lander, said it is a challenge to fit a worthwhile Mars mission into Discovery's $425 million cost cap. Discovery proposals never have enough funding as you like, Smith said in an interview Tuesday. It will be tough to conduct a Mars surface mission on a Discovery budget, he said. Smith, a researcher at the University of Arizona, is part of a proposal to follow-up on Phoenix, which returned data from the northern polar plains of Mars for six months in 2008. If we can make the case on cost, hopefully NASA will consider Mars in the Discovery selection, Smith said. McCuistion agrees, saying economic realities will likely prohibit Mars Scout from returning again. Most of the science is on the surface, McCuistion said. And it's very difficult, if not impossible, in a Scout-sized budget to do National Academy (of Sciences)-class science on the surface. While we didn't plan it that way, I think it came at the appropriate time. NASA's next mission to the Martian surface is the Curiority rover, a $2.3 billion mission to determine whether the planet was ever habitable. After MAVEN, the final Scout mission, launches in late 2013, NASA will partner with the European Space Agency for a methane-sniffing orbiter in 2016 and a nearly $3 billion dual-rover landing mission in 2018. The joint Mars program was formed with an eye toward a sample return mission in the 2020s. The audacious missions planned for the next decade will also consume a larger share of NASA's Mars budget, limiting funds for more frequent, less expensive Scout-class missions. Previous unselected Scout proposals included small impactor-type landers, aerial vehicles and balloons, and orbiters. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: July 26-30, 2010
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES July 26-30, 2010 o Dark Slope Streaks (26 July 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100726a o Sand Dunes (27 July 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100727a o Polar Dunes (28 July 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100728a o Tharsis Lava (29 July 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100729a o Crater in Arabia (30 July 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100730a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Book: Origin of Life
Hello All, several people have asked if a printed version is available. This is what the author wrote to me: The book is not on sale as a printed version, although I may get, privately, professionally printed paperback versions at EUR 40 (about US$ 54.00) each and send them by mail, which will cost some additional EUR 8 to Europe and EUR 15 to the rest of the world (each copy). In case you wish one or more copies, please do let me know. So, if you are interested in such a copy, please let me know! Best, Peter 2010/7/30 Peter Marmet p.mar...@sunrise.ch: Hello All, just got this interesting e-mail and link: Dear Peter, I am pleased to let you know that my book is now published on the web as a Community Book in the Internet Archive of Columbia International University. You may reach it in http://www.archive.org/details/OriginOfLife or, still better, in a full page format in http://www.archive.org/stream/OriginOfLife?ui=embed With kind regards, I wish you have a pleasant Summer. Hernani Best, Peter http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Marcin's new NWA 6256 diogenite (oddball)
Marcin wrote this morning: NWA 6256 [DIO] - Strange looking diogenite, really strange one http://www.polandmet.com/ And right he is. Never seen anything like this before so strange can only vaguely paraphrase this oddball of a diogenite! Even though my budget has been a bit strained lately, I could not resist and purchased the 6.3-gram piece of NWA 6256. Can hardly wait to add this one to my collection and examine it closely! Looks like there are lots of triple junctions! Regards, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: New pieces of one of the worlds best meteorwrong available
Hello All, I have added a lot of new slices and endcuts to my sale page. Take a look, even if your not interested in buying. This is one of the worlds best meteorwrongs. It was very popular last time I was offering pieces for sale. I have had many compliments on this meteorwrong, Many people have decided to add a piece to their collection. You can now add a piece to your collection or upgrade to a better piece. I have some really nice pieces here: http://illinoismeteorites.com/mendotawrong_4_sale_2.htm If you have already got a piece of this, let me know what you think about it? Do you think it looks like a meteorite in person? at least good look a like? If anyone can test some of this and then provide me with the results I can send you a couple pieces free of charge. I have had it tested at multiple labs, but have never been able to see any results, it would be nice to have some test results available. I have asked them, but have not received any as of yet. If interested please email me off-list, The first to inquire about a piece gets it. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Suspected Meteorite Was Concrete That Fell From Passing Plane
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7919157/Suspected-meteorite-was-concrete-lump-that-fell-from-passing-plane.html Suspected meteorite was concrete lump that fell from passing plane The Telegraph (United Kingdom) July 30, 2010 A suspected meteorite that landed on a cricket pitch was in fact a lump of concrete probably dislodged from the bottom of a passing aircraft, experts have concluded. The lump of rock was initially thought to have been the first extra-terrestrial object to land on Britain for almost two decades. Jan Marszal and Richard Haynes were watching Sussex play Middlesex at Uxbridge when the rock landed inside the boundary rope, split in two and popped up and hit Mr Marszal, a 51-year-old IT consultant, in the chest. At the time he said: It was travelling really fast. It was definitely not a stone thrown by a member of the crowd. It must have been part of a meteorite. We can't think of anything else it could have been. It is a rocky type of substance. Such was the interest generated by their account that the pair even received a call from 87-year-old astronomy expert Sir Patrick Moore. But on Thursday, Dave Harris of the British and Irish Meteroite Society revealed the rock did not appear to have fallen from space. He said: I'm afraid it's nothing more than a piece of Portland cement with flecks of brick dust and flint in it. It is most probably something that fell off the undercarriage of a plane. It was not like a meteorite at all. The piece of cement was also sent to renowned planetary scientist Professor Colin Pillinger, the leader of the Beagle Mars lander project in 2003, who came to the same conclusion. Mr Marszal said: I had never seen a meteorite before so didn't know what one looked like but it came down from the sky and I couldn't think what else it could have been. I am disappointed but in some ways I glad it's all over and we now know what it is. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Meteorwrongs
The first post didn't go... Forgot to Plain text it... Hello Peter! I see that you are collecting a few wrongs. Several years ago, at one of Mr. Bloods auctions, I gave Richard Norton a piece of material to take and study. As it turned out it was a Meteorwrong, but a good one. It appears in Norton and Chitwood's book Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites page 176 Figure 9.4. If you would like, I'll send you a slice for your examples of Wrongs to the address you included in your post. Let me know. Dennis Miller Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:10:03 +0100 From: p.david...@nms.ac.uk To: stanleygr...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs Greg There is no outright policy on collecting meteorwrongs in the museum. That is not to say that we have not acquired a number of these over the years. Our most famous meteorwrong is the so-called Newstead Meteorite which was recognised as a bona-fide meteorite until the early part of the Twentieth Century when it was discredited and removed for the British Museum's (now the Natural History Museum of London's) Catalogue of Meteorites. Now that I am expanding my activities into teaching and demonstrations in schools and elsewhere, using meteorwrongs is a very good way of showing people how to differentiate potential finds. It is therefore essential that I build up a good collection of wrong 'uns to use as examples. Thus whenever I get a meteorite enquiry, I always ask the inquirer if they would like to donate the object to the museum. Most people are happy to do so as it saves the trouble of having to dispose of them. It is, I admit, a fairly ad-hoc arrangement but I now have quite a few to work with. Hope everyone has a great weekend Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals Department of Natural Sciences National Museums Collection Centre 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Scotland Tel: 00 44 131 247 4283 E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Thunder Stone Sent: 29 July 2010 20:57 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrongs List: Does anyone have a meteorwrong collection? And I don't mean black magnetic rocks you may have found (like ones in my garage), but a collection of really 'good' meteorwrongs that could perhaps fool people. That actually would be quite interesting. Greg S. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Liven up your lunchtime with Free Fringe Music from 9-29 August at the National Museum of Scotland www.nms.ac.uk/fringe National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
