Re: [meteorite-list] eBay Meteorite Info page
Greetings Don and all, I checked out your site and enjoyed reading your step by step on ebay buying. Wish you would include me on your site. I've only been selling for 22 years now. One other source and one mentioned in your webpage is here: http://meteorite-identification.com/wrongs1.html (I highly recommend that new bidders read this) It lists many things to look out for when buying on ebay. One thing that was not covered here on the list (recently) is sellers that find material that looks like a rarer type and intentionally sell it as the rare type on purpose. We have had one person who has done this and continues to sell to his customers who are probably trading material out and getting mis-represented material in our collections. He has been pointed out but collectors still buy from him so THEY are just as guilty as he is. I keep a listing of these buyers in case they want to trade with me. One other thing that collectors can do is to check out the Meteorite.com site out. It has a listing of reputable dealers to buy from. Buy from dealers who have been around for a while to protect yourself. --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites (www.mitterling.com) almittmet (ebay seller name) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on ebay
The Weston auction is no more.The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. I would imagine that those of us listees who reported the auction (or approached the seller) must have had a little something to do with it! The last two bidders, whether they realize it or not, owe the list some credit for saving one of them over a hundred smackers. DG Action / ExplanationDate of Bid and Retraction Bidder o***9Cancelled: US $31.00 Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: Nov-13-10 08:30:39 PST Cancelled: Nov-18-10 23:26:06 PST Bidder s***iCancelled: US $133.51 Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: Nov-18-10 16:04:31 PST Cancelled: Nov-18-10 23:26:05 PST Bidder 4***aCancelled: US $125.00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 1575 Ureilite [Update]!! - AD
Hi Greg all, I'm a little surprised to see any of these slices still available. I jumped on Greg's offer several weeks ago when he first offered them and I must say that I was not disappointed! It's a gorgeous meteorite and they are quite highly polished slices with great surface to weight ratios. I haven't seen many Ureilites offered over the years at such large, thin slices and at a reasonable price too. If nothing else the pics are worth a look. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 1575 Ureilite [Update]!! - AD Dear List Members, UPDATE ~ Dhofar 1575 Ureilite: Slices: Only 5 polished slices left at $15.00/g Fragments: Only 5 cut fragments left at $8.00/g * See below for list of available specimens. Last month I announced a NEW Ureilite, Dhofar 1575. As we all know ureilites are very difficult to cut and polish due to the numerous nano diamonds in the matrix and most people do not invest the money or time into offering polished slices, it is simply not cost effective. Well, I have put the investment into having this ureilite cut and polished and wish to offer collectors this rare chance to include a world-class slice at a VERY competitive rate! I was lucky enough to acquire 25% of this new ureilite and hired one of the best cutters out there to prepare this material, which was not cheap! He liked this material so much he acquired a slice for his own collection! The majority of this meteorite is in a private collection and very likely will never be made available to collectors. Submitted classification is below the list of specimens in this email. Taking decent photographs of this highly polished material was a real challenge and my images do not do the material justice. The slices are far better looking in person, displaying the wall-to-wall olivine crystals in a dazzling array which is a wonder under a microscope or 10x loupe! Here is all that I have available of Dhofar 1575 Ureilite (Provisional): 38.44g part slice 73mm x 69mm x 2.5mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc3.jpg 34.71g part slice 74mm x 70mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc4.jpg 31.23g part slice 70mm x 56mm x 3mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc5.jpg 28.31g part slice 68mm x 59mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc7.jpg 27.53g part slice 69mm x 60mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc8.jpg 122.1g cut fragment 55mm x 50mm x 27mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00013.jpg 71.7g cut fragment 49mm x 33mm x 14mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00017.jpg 65.6g cut fragment 48mm x 38mm x 17mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00015.jpg 13.5g cut fragment 40mm x 13mm x 10mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00019.jpg 12.2g cut fragment 39mm x 22mm x 10mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00020.jpg PRICING: (Ureilites normally sell for $30.00-50.00/g, if you can find sizable prepared slices!) Polished slices - $15.00/g Fragments - $8.00/g Submitted classification for Dhofar 1575: Fresh, coarse grained aggregate of olivine and pigeonite (both exhibiting characteristic dark, reduced grain rims) with accessory graphite, and Ni-free iron metal along silicate grain margins. Olivine (cores Fa21.5, FeO/MnO = 45.5; rim Fa3.6; FeO/MnO = 7.2), pigeonite (cores Fs17.7-17.8Wo6.0-5.8; FeO/MnO = 27.7). TKW: 4.7kg (2 stones; 1001g ASU Collection, ~2.7kg Private Collection) Thank you for considering a piece of Dhofar 1575 for your collection! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on ebay
Bravo! Well done to all those who participated in this effort!/d On Nov 19, 2010, at 5:44 AM, Don Giovanni wrote: The Weston auction is no more.The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. I would imagine that those of us listees who reported the auction (or approached the seller) must have had a little something to do with it! The last two bidders, whether they realize it or not, owe the list some credit for saving one of them over a hundred smackers. DG Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction Bidder o***9Cancelled: US $31.00 Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: Nov-13-10 08:30:39 PST Cancelled: Nov-18-10 23:26:06 PST Bidder s***iCancelled: US $133.51 Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: Nov-18-10 16:04:31 PST Cancelled: Nov-18-10 23:26:05 PST Bidder 4***aCancelled: US $125.00 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay
Darryl wrote me off List and asked Count, you bought all of this on eBay? I think Darryl is one of the nicest Listees. He has always been a resource that we newbies can turn to for assistance. I have had occasion to purchase rare meteorites that have been deaccessed from his collection through third parties. One of my prized Martians, Govenador Valedares, is an example. Thank you, Darryl. Yes, I have purchased all that I listed as an example to the List of my faith in eBay as a source for almost anything. I have even purchased foodstuff and clothing. I rarely buy anything in a big box store. And I sell my big ticket items online. For those who wish to know..My eBay identifier is airmuseum. I do not hide my identity. One of the nice things about getting old is accepting who you are and who others are and enjoying it. My best regards to all on the List...I mean all. And congratulations to you who stepped up to the plate and knocked the phony Weston material out of the park. Way too go!!! Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Darryl Pitt dar...@dof3.com Sent: Nov 19, 2010 6:38 AM To: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay I'm blasting through email and just read the following Count, you bought all of this on eBay? And regardless, you are such an interesting fellow. I do look forward to meeting you one day. All best / Darryl On Nov 18, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Count Deiro wrote: Friend Mike and Listees, I've bought two Rolls Royce Spurs, two Lexus 300 series sedans, two Jeep Grand Cherokees, one new Ford Interceptor, one Mazda 6, a Honda 750 Shadow Aero, two hot boats, a Ford tow truck and about $50,000 worth of assorted personal property... and at least $20,000 worth of small meteorites. Since 1999, I have had but one problem purchase. A big concreted Nantan (slag) that I paid less for than what it cost to ship. My purchases are small potatoes compared to many eBayers on this List. One Listee I know has dealt a seven figure amount in ten years on eBay with less than a handful of bad deals. I agree with your old saying, Let the buyer beware. I think Ebay is a great way to buy and sell. Why beat up on them? How the hell do they know a meteorwrong from a meteorite.. unless someone tells them? Just where are they wrong in this Weston deal? Best to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com Sent: Nov 18, 2010 1:46 PM To: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay eBay certainly doesn't have the best interest of it's sellers in mind, and from the looks of this auction (and others like it), they don't care about their buyers or the integrity of their marketplace either. Caveat Emptor. On 11/18/10, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: This auction just ended, a great price for 72 grams of Weston, (I paid a lot more than that for mine!), not so great of a price for botryoidal hematite. But seriously, if you're so dumb you don't know that Weston is an H4 and you bid on a piece of Weston sold as an iron, I don't really feel that sorry for you. Phil Whitmer http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390261289839ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:ITautorefresh=true __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Weston on ebay
Hello Listers, I wrote the seller on eBay and they wrote me an email back stating this. Dear photophlow, Yes, it appears you are correct. I have been made aware of this many times over, and am taking appropriate action to ensure the buyers are reimbursed if they have paid and to keep them from paying if they have not. The documentation I had was flawed obviously. - randallcast Great job everyone and well have a seller on eBay that listened :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Weston on ebay Don Giovanni grigaro at operamail.com Fri Nov 19 05:44:20 EST 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay Next message: [meteorite-list] Weston on ebay Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] The Weston auction is no more. The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. I would imagine that those of us listees who reported the auction (or approached the seller) must have had a little something to do with it! The last two bidders, whether they realize it or not, owe the list some credit for saving one of them over a hundred smackers. DG Action / Explanation Date of Bid and Retraction Bidder o***9 Cancelled: US $31.00 Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: Nov-13-10 08:30:39 PST Cancelled: Nov-18-10 23:26:06 PST Bidder s***i Cancelled: US $133.51 Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: Nov-18-10 16:04:31 PST Cancelled: Nov-18-10 23:26:05 PST Bidder 4***a Cancelled: US $125.00 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay Next message: [meteorite-list] Weston on ebay Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat?
No mention of whether any meteorites were found or even if there was an attempt to search for any. -- Bob V. -- http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26039/?ref=rss Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat? The discovery of an unrecorded crater raises the possibility that the biblical mountain was struck by a meteorite, say physicists kfc 11/18/2010 * 2 Comments Mount Ararat is an ancient, isolated volcano in eastern Turkey near the borders with Iran and Armenia. According to the Bible, the mountain is the final resting place of Noah's Ark. Many an expedition has tried and failed to find the Ark's remains. The northern and western slopes of the mountain are closed to public so how two physicists gained access is anybody's guess. However, today Vahe Gurzadyan from the Yerevan Physics Institute in Armenia and Sverre Aarseth from the University of Cambridge in the UK, publish an account of a remarkable discovery they made while walking in the region. At an altitude of 2100 metre, at coordinates 39˚ 47' 30''N, 44˚ 14' 40''E, they found a well-preserved and previously unrecorded crater some 70 metres across. (Google Earth is of little use. The resolution of the imagery at this location is poor.) That's a decent size for a crater that has gone unnoticed for so long (although new craters of this kind of size do turn up from time to time.) The question of course is how this crater was formed. One possibility is that the crater is volcanic. But Gurzadyan and Aarseth raise another: that it is the result of a meteorite impact. They rule out a glacial origin on the grounds that 2100 metres is well below the glacier line. Gurzadyan and Aarseth publish their account with the intention of attracting interest so that the crater can be properly classified. New craters are important because they help determine how heavily the Earth has been bombarded in the past. And while small craters are far more numerous than big ones on other bodies in the Solar System, the opposite is true on Earth because small ones tend to be eroded away more quickly. Interestingly, the crater wasn't their only discovery during their trip. Because the region is closed, it is virtually unexplored. Gurzadyan and Aarseth say they also stumbled across the remains of a 5th or 6th century Armenian basilica that is unknown to experts. Sounds like an adventure in the making for anybody with the time and inclination to go. (And with the necessary permits, of course.) Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1011.3715: A Meteorite Crater On Mt. Ararat? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on ebay
I also wrote and got the same response. Chris Spratt Victoria, BC (Via my iPhone) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Possible Spam] Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat?
Interesting. You are right that Google Earth is of little use and flashearth is worse but I found some uploaded pictures to Google Earth and this one shows what appears to either be a sink hole or a crater. But it doesn't look like the same one as in your link: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/37270146 Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Robert Verish Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral Subject: [Possible Spam][meteorite-list] Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat? No mention of whether any meteorites were found or even if there was an attempt to search for any. -- Bob V. -- http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26039/?ref=rss Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat? The discovery of an unrecorded crater raises the possibility that the biblical mountain was struck by a meteorite, say physicists kfc 11/18/2010 * 2 Comments Mount Ararat is an ancient, isolated volcano in eastern Turkey near the borders with Iran and Armenia. According to the Bible, the mountain is the final resting place of Noah's Ark. Many an expedition has tried and failed to find the Ark's remains. The northern and western slopes of the mountain are closed to public so how two physicists gained access is anybody's guess. However, today Vahe Gurzadyan from the Yerevan Physics Institute in Armenia and Sverre Aarseth from the University of Cambridge in the UK, publish an account of a remarkable discovery they made while walking in the region. At an altitude of 2100 metre, at coordinates 39 47' 30''N, 44 14' 40''E, they found a well-preserved and previously unrecorded crater some 70 metres across. (Google Earth is of little use. The resolution of the imagery at this location is poor.) That's a decent size for a crater that has gone unnoticed for so long (although new craters of this kind of size do turn up from time to time.) The question of course is how this crater was formed. One possibility is that the crater is volcanic. But Gurzadyan and Aarseth raise another: that it is the result of a meteorite impact. They rule out a glacial origin on the grounds that 2100 metres is well below the glacier line. Gurzadyan and Aarseth publish their account with the intention of attracting interest so that the crater can be properly classified. New craters are important because they help determine how heavily the Earth has been bombarded in the past. And while small craters are far more numerous than big ones on other bodies in the Solar System, the opposite is true on Earth because small ones tend to be eroded away more quickly. Interestingly, the crater wasn't their only discovery during their trip. Because the region is closed, it is virtually unexplored. Gurzadyan and Aarseth say they also stumbled across the remains of a 5th or 6th century Armenian basilica that is unknown to experts. Sounds like an adventure in the making for anybody with the time and inclination to go. (And with the necessary permits, of course.) Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1011.3715: A Meteorite Crater On Mt. Ararat? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [Possible Spam] Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat?
They find a crater on a volcano and quickly suggest that it was an impact crater?... Come on! That's like finding basalt in a caldera and claiming its a martian meteorite. -YvW On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote: Interesting. You are right that Google Earth is of little use and flashearth is worse but I found some uploaded pictures to Google Earth and this one shows what appears to either be a sink hole or a crater. But it doesn't look like the same one as in your link: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/37270146 Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Robert Verish Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 12:13 PM To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral Subject: [Possible Spam][meteorite-list] Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat? No mention of whether any meteorites were found or even if there was an attempt to search for any. -- Bob V. -- http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26039/?ref=rss Unrecorded Meteorite Crater Found On Mount Ararat? The discovery of an unrecorded crater raises the possibility that the biblical mountain was struck by a meteorite, say physicists kfc 11/18/2010 * 2 Comments Mount Ararat is an ancient, isolated volcano in eastern Turkey near the borders with Iran and Armenia. According to the Bible, the mountain is the final resting place of Noah's Ark. Many an expedition has tried and failed to find the Ark's remains. The northern and western slopes of the mountain are closed to public so how two physicists gained access is anybody's guess. However, today Vahe Gurzadyan from the Yerevan Physics Institute in Armenia and Sverre Aarseth from the University of Cambridge in the UK, publish an account of a remarkable discovery they made while walking in the region. At an altitude of 2100 metre, at coordinates 39 47' 30''N, 44 14' 40''E, they found a well-preserved and previously unrecorded crater some 70 metres across. (Google Earth is of little use. The resolution of the imagery at this location is poor.) That's a decent size for a crater that has gone unnoticed for so long (although new craters of this kind of size do turn up from time to time.) The question of course is how this crater was formed. One possibility is that the crater is volcanic. But Gurzadyan and Aarseth raise another: that it is the result of a meteorite impact. They rule out a glacial origin on the grounds that 2100 metres is well below the glacier line. Gurzadyan and Aarseth publish their account with the intention of attracting interest so that the crater can be properly classified. New craters are important because they help determine how heavily the Earth has been bombarded in the past. And while small craters are far more numerous than big ones on other bodies in the Solar System, the opposite is true on Earth because small ones tend to be eroded away more quickly. Interestingly, the crater wasn't their only discovery during their trip. Because the region is closed, it is virtually unexplored. Gurzadyan and Aarseth say they also stumbled across the remains of a 5th or 6th century Armenian basilica that is unknown to experts. Sounds like an adventure in the making for anybody with the time and inclination to go. (And with the necessary permits, of course.) Ref: arxiv.org/abs/1011.3715: A Meteorite Crater On Mt. Ararat? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay another LISTING report them toeBay.
I sent a question to this seller asking how he knew this was Weston. His reply: Yes, it appears you are correct. I have been made aware of this many times over, and am taking appropriate action to ensure the buyers are reimbursed if they have paid and to keep them from paying if they have not. The documentation I had was flawed obviously. David - randallcast Click respond to reply through Messages, or go to your email to reply Respond --- On Thu, 11/18/10, Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com wrote: From: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay another LISTING report them toeBay. To: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 10:59 PM I filed my report and emailed the seller directly to ask why he continues to misrepresent these items. -Original Message- From: Shawn Alan Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 6:07 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay another LISTING report them toeBay. Hello Listers, Well its seems this individual has another posting on eBay that will end in less then 23 hours. I think its best if everyone on the list that has an eBay account to report them. First of all they are in violation because they have it listed as an iron and Weston isn't, plus, its hematite from what Jason and others has said. I have reported this listing and if enough people report the listing it should be canceled, well we hope. http://cgi.ebay.com/1807-Western-CT-Weston-17-Meteorites-total-66-grams-/390261301841?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5add62e251 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay Meteorites USA eric at meteoritesusa.com Thu Nov 18 16:46:14 EST 2010 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay Next message: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi, List, Jason, You said: ...Either the seller was lied to, or he's passing them on fraudulently/knowingly Maybe he/she just doesn't know, or have enough knowledge and really believes these to be meteorites. The worst thing about this, is that unsuspecting people who are also not knowledgeable about meteorites will buy meteorwrongs thinking and believing they are meteorites, which perpetuates the problem and it spreads from there to the next person, and the next, etc... How does one stop people selling something that's not or may not be what they claim it to be, when that person could just be ignorant of the authenticity of the item they are selling? Eric On 11/18/2010 11:38 AM, Jason Utas wrote: Hello Linton, On the contrary - both of the links that you posted are to auctions of botryoidal hematite specimens, and the seller has an additional auction with a collection of small hematite pieces. You can tell by looking for the round, bubbly shaped protuberances visible on the specimen featured in the first ebay auction you linked to. The second auction features a nice lamellar fragment of hematite as well - it spalled off of a larger fragment (the seller notes that it spalled off of *something* in the description, making it sound all the more like legitimate fraud to me). Either the seller was lied to, or he's passing them on fraudulently/knowingly. I sure wish ebay would do something about this sort of crap... Jason On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Linton Rohrlintonius at earthlink.net wrote: Hi folks. I'll readily admit to being one of the lesser knowledgable members of this fine list, but these Weston specimens being offered on e-bay sure don't look like the piece I have. Or any chondrites I have for that matter. Is some poor sucker bidding on slag here? Linton http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390261289839ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=390261294519ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Previous message: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - November 16, 2010
Hi Dave and List, http://www.rocksfromspace.org/November_16_2010.html My buddy Sawyer contemplating how things might have been different in Uganda 1992, had another individual come through banana tree leaves to strike a boy in the head...ouch! The only solace for the boy would have been that he was struck by an extremely beautiful, thumbprinted messenger from space. But, alas, he wouldn't have had time to appreciate it any more! Thanks Michael, Dave for sharing! Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: November 15-19, 2010
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES November 15-19, 2010 o Channel (15 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101115a o Kasei Valles (16 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101116a o Maja Valles (17 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101117a o Wind and Rock (18 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101118a o Kasei Valles (19 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101119a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update: November 11-17, 2010
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Remains Silent at Troy - sols 2438-2444, November 11-17, 2010: Spirit remains silent at her location on the west side of Home Plate. No communication has been received from the rover since Sol 2210 (March 22, 2010). The project continues to listen for Spirit with the Deep Space Network and Mars Odyssey orbiter for autonomous recovery communication from the low-power fault case. The project is also conducting a paging technique called Sweep Beep strategy to stimulate the rover in the case of a mission-clock fault. Total odometry is unchanged at 7,730.50 meters (4.80 miles). OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Opportunity Checks out Intrepid Crater - sols 2418-2423, November 12-17, 2010: Opportunity has been navigating through a field of small impact craters on her way to Endeavour crater. Opportunity has exceeded 25 kilometers (15 miles) of odometry on the surface of Mars! The rover spent a few days imaging the interior of Intrepid crater, one of a collection of small impact craters in this area. On Sol 2420 (Nov. 14, 2010), Opportunity departed Intrepid, driving over 116 meters (381 feet) and crossing the 25-kilometer odometry mark. During the drive, the rover collected some mid-drive imaging of Intrepid from a different vantage point. The Stardust safe-mode entry affected Deep Space Network coverage for the Odyssey orbiter, which delayed the return of some relay data for Opportunity. As of Sol 2422 (Nov. 16, 2010), solar array energy production was 596 watt-hours with a slightly elevated atmospheric opacity (Tau) of 0.769 and a solar array dust factor of 0.670. Total odometry is 25,063.18 meters (25.06 kilometers, or 15.57 miles). __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Brian Marsden, Eminent Astronomer and Comet/Asteroid Tracker, Dies
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/2010/pr201025.html Press Release Release No.: 2010-25 For Release: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:00:00 AM EST Brian Marsden, Eminent Astronomer and Comet/Asteroid Tracker, Dies Cambridge, MA - Dr. Brian Geoffrey Marsden passed away today at the age of 73 following a prolonged illness. He was a Supervisory Astronomer at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory and Director Emeritus of the Minor Planet Center. Brian was one of the most influential comet investigators of the twentieth century, said Charles Alcock, Director of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and definitely one of the most colorful! Dr. Marsden specialized in celestial mechanics and astrometry, collecting data on the positions of asteroids and comets and computing their orbits, often from minimal observational information. Such calculations are critical for tracking potentially Earth-threatening objects. The New York Times once described Marsden as a Cheery Herald of Fear. The comet prediction of which Marsden was most proud was that of the return of Comet Swift-Tuttle, which is the comet associated with the Perseid meteor shower each August. Swift-Tuttle had been discovered in 1862, and the conventional wisdom was that it would return around 1981. Marsden had a strong suspicion, however, that the 1862 comet was identical with one seen in 1737, and this assumption allowed him to predict that Swift-Tuttle would not return until late 1992. This prediction proved to be correct. This comet has the longest orbital period of all the comets whose returns have been successfully predicted. In 1998, Marsden developed a certain amount of notoriety by suggesting that an object called 1997 XF11 could collide with Earth. He said that he did this as a last-ditch effort to encourage the acquisition of further observations, including searches for possible data from several years earlier. The recognition of some observations from 1990 made it quite clear that there could be no collision with 1997 XF11 during the foreseeable future. Dr. Marsden also played a key role in the demotion of Pluto to dwarf planet status. He once proposed that Pluto should be cross-listed as both a planet and a minor planet, and assigned the asteroid number 1. That proposal was not accepted. However, in 2006 a vote by members of the International Astronomical Union created a new category of dwarf planets, which includes Pluto, Ceres, and several other objects. Pluto was designated minor planet 134340. This decision remains controversial. Marsden was born on August 5, 1937, in Cambridge, England. He received an undergraduate degree in mathematics from New College, University of Oxford, and a Ph.D. from Yale University. At the invitation of director Fred Whipple, Dr. Marsden joined the staff of the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in Cambridge, Mass., in 1965. He became director of the Minor Planet Center in 1978. (The MPC is the official organization in charge of collecting observational data for asteroids and comets, calculating their orbits, and publishing this information via Circulars.) Marsden served as an associate director of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics from 1987 to 2003 (the longest tenure of any of the Center's associate directors). Among the various awards he received from the U.S., the U.K., and a handful of other European countries, the ones he particularly appreciated were the 1995 Dirk Brouwer Award (named for his mentor at Yale) from the American Astronomical Society's (AAS) Division on Dynamical Astronomy, and the 1989 Van Biesbroeck Award (named for an old friend and observer of comets and double stars), then presented by the University of Arizona (now by the AAS) for service to astronomy. Dr. Marsden married Nancy Lou Zissell, of Trumbull, Connecticut, on December 26, 1964, and fathered Cynthia Louise Marsden-Williams (who is now married to Gareth Williams, still MPC associate director), of Arlington, Massachusetts, and Jonathan Brian Marsden, of San Mateo, California. He also has three grandchildren in California: Nikhilas, Nathaniel, and Neena. A sister, Sylvia Custerson, continues to reside in Cambridge, England. Dr. Marsden's full biography is available online http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/pao/BrianMarsden.doc Headquartered in Cambridge, Mass., the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics (CfA) is a joint collaboration between the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory and the Harvard College Observatory. CfA scientists, organized into six research divisions, study the origin, evolution and ultimate fate of the universe. For more information, contact: David A. Aguilar Director of Public Affairs Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics 617-495-7462 dagui...@cfa.harvard.edu Christine Pulliam Public Affairs Specialist Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics 617-495-7463 cpull...@cfa.harvard.edu __ Visit the Archives
[meteorite-list] NASA Nanosatellite Studies Life in Space, Demonstrates Technology
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2010/M10-106.html Rachel Hoover Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. 650-604-0643 rachel.hoo...@nasa.gov Nov. 18, 2010 MEDIA ADVISORY : M10-106 NASA Nanosatellite Studies Life in Space, Demonstrates Technology MOFFETT FIELD, Calif. -- NASA is preparing to fly a small satellite about the size of a loaf of bread that could help answer astrobiology's fundamental questions about the origin, evolution, and distribution of life in the universe. The nanosatellite, known as Organism/Organic Exposure to Orbital Stresses, or O/OREOS, is a secondary payload aboard a U.S. Air Force four-stage Minotaur IV rocket planned for launch on Nov. 19, 2010. O/OREOS weighs approximately 12 pounds and is NASA's first CubeSat to demonstrate the capability to have two distinct, completely independent science experiments on a single autonomous satellite. O/OREOS also will use NASA's first propellant-less mechanism on a scientific satellite to ensure it de-orbits and burns up as it re-enters Earth's atmosphere less than 25 years after completing its mission. Secondary payload nanosatellites, like O/OREOS are an innovative way to extend and enhance scientists' opportunities to conduct research in low Earth orbit by providing an alternative to the International Space Station or space shuttle investigations, said Pascale Ehrenfreund, O/OREOS project scientist at the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University. With O/OREOS we can analyse of the stability of organics in the local space environment in real-time and test flight hardware that can be used for future payloads to address fundamental astrobiology objectives. The Minotaur IV rocket is on the launch pad at the Alaska Aerospace Corporation's Kodiak Launch Complex on Kodiak Island, Alaska. The range is conducting final checkouts. The U.S. Air Force has announced that the rocket could launch at any time during a 90-minute launch window beginning at 5:24 p.m. PST on Nov. 19, 2010. After O/OREOS separates from the Minotaur IV rocket and successfully enters low Earth orbit at approximately 400 miles above Earth, it will activate and begin transmitting radio signals to ground control stations and spacecraft operators in the mission control center at Santa Clara University, Santa Clara, Calif. We are excited to have this opportunity to demonstrate the utility of these very small spacecraft in space for NASA's science missions, said Bruce Yost, O/OREOS mission manager at NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. We're hoping to demonstrate NASA's ability to build complex nanosatellites like O/OREOS that can meet the needs of scientists with big ideas and lofty goals. Spacecraft operators could make contact with O/OREOS as soon as 12.5 hours after launch. O/OREOS will conduct experiments, which will last up to six months, autonomously or after receiving a command from the Santa Clara ground station. Once the experiments begin, O/OREOS will relay data daily to mission managers, engineers and project scientists for further analysis. Spacecraft operators say the nanosatellite is scheduled to transmit mission data for a year. O/OREOS, the first technology demonstration mission of NASA's Astrobiology Small Payloads Program, contains two experiment payloads, including the Space Environment Survivability of Live Organisms (SESLO), which will characterize the growth, activity, health and ability of microorganisms to adapt to the stresses of the space environment, and the Space Environment Viability of Organics (SEVO), which will monitor the stability and changes in four classes of organic molecules as they are exposed to space conditions. The SESLO payload will monitor biological organisms' responses as they are exposed to radiation and weightless conditions in space. The experiment is sealed and contains two types of microbes commonly found in salt ponds and soil in a dried and dormant state: Halorubrum chaoviatoris and Bacillus subtilis. After O/OREOS reaches orbit, the experiment will rehydrate, or feed, and grow three sets of the microbes. The SESLO experiment measures the microbes' population density and change in color while they consume the dyed liquid nutrients. For the SEVO experiment, scientists selected molecules distributed throughout our galaxy as well building blocks of life. O/OREOS houses the organic samples in micro environments to mimic space and planetary conditions. The experiment will expose the organic compounds to radiation in the form of solar ultraviolet (UV) light, visible light, trapped-particle and cosmic radiation. Scientists will determine the stability of the molecules by studying the changes in UV, visible and near-infrared light absorption. The Small Spacecraft Division at NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif,, manages the O/OREOS payload and mission operations with the professional support of staff and students from Santa Clara University, Santa Clara, Calif.
Re: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 1575 Ureilite [Update]!! - AD
Hi Jeff and All, As Jeff mentioned, these the slices of Dhofar 1575 are HIGHLY polished and it was very difficult to capture a proper image of them. The slices look MUCH better in person than what my photos show. I had a few other private emails from happy purchasers who mention how much nicer their slices are in hand. Hope everyone has a great weekend! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au To: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:03 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 1575 Ureilite [Update]!! - AD Hi Greg all, I'm a little surprised to see any of these slices still available. I jumped on Greg's offer several weeks ago when he first offered them and I must say that I was not disappointed! It's a gorgeous meteorite and they are quite highly polished slices with great surface to weight ratios. I haven't seen many Ureilites offered over the years at such large, thin slices and at a reasonable price too. If nothing else the pics are worth a look. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 1575 Ureilite [Update]!! - AD Dear List Members, UPDATE ~ Dhofar 1575 Ureilite: Slices: Only 5 polished slices left at $15.00/g Fragments: Only 5 cut fragments left at $8.00/g * See below for list of available specimens. Last month I announced a NEW Ureilite, Dhofar 1575. As we all know ureilites are very difficult to cut and polish due to the numerous nano diamonds in the matrix and most people do not invest the money or time into offering polished slices, it is simply not cost effective. Well, I have put the investment into having this ureilite cut and polished and wish to offer collectors this rare chance to include a world-class slice at a VERY competitive rate! I was lucky enough to acquire 25% of this new ureilite and hired one of the best cutters out there to prepare this material, which was not cheap! He liked this material so much he acquired a slice for his own collection! The majority of this meteorite is in a private collection and very likely will never be made available to collectors. Submitted classification is below the list of specimens in this email. Taking decent photographs of this highly polished material was a real challenge and my images do not do the material justice. The slices are far better looking in person, displaying the wall-to-wall olivine crystals in a dazzling array which is a wonder under a microscope or 10x loupe! Here is all that I have available of Dhofar 1575 Ureilite (Provisional): 38.44g part slice 73mm x 69mm x 2.5mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc3.jpg 34.71g part slice 74mm x 70mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc4.jpg 31.23g part slice 70mm x 56mm x 3mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc5.jpg 28.31g part slice 68mm x 59mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc7.jpg 27.53g part slice 69mm x 60mm x 2mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc8.jpg 122.1g cut fragment 55mm x 50mm x 27mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00013.jpg 71.7g cut fragment 49mm x 33mm x 14mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00017.jpg 65.6g cut fragment 48mm x 38mm x 17mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00015.jpg 13.5g cut fragment 40mm x 13mm x 10mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00019.jpg 12.2g cut fragment 39mm x 22mm x 10mm http://www.lunarrock.com/Dhofar1575/dsc00020.jpg PRICING: (Ureilites normally sell for $30.00-50.00/g, if you can find sizable prepared slices!) Polished slices - $15.00/g Fragments - $8.00/g Submitted classification for Dhofar 1575: Fresh, coarse grained aggregate of olivine and pigeonite (both exhibiting characteristic dark, reduced grain rims) with accessory graphite, and Ni-free iron metal along silicate grain margins. Olivine (cores Fa21.5, FeO/MnO = 45.5; rim Fa3.6; FeO/MnO = 7.2), pigeonite (cores Fs17.7-17.8Wo6.0-5.8; FeO/MnO = 27.7). TKW: 4.7kg (2 stones; 1001g ASU Collection, ~2.7kg Private Collection) Thank you for considering a piece of Dhofar 1575 for your collection! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Brian Marsden, Eminent Astronomer and Comet/Asteroid Tracker, Dies
predict that Swift-Tuttle would not return until late 1992. This prediction proved to be correct. B.G. Marsden (1992) Cover Story - Comet Swift-Tuttle: Does It Threaten Earth? (Sky Tel. 1992, pp. 16-19): My predicted dates for the next perihelion passages of Swift-Tuttle are July 11, 2126, and August 14, 2261- two exceptionally favorable returns very close to Earth. Our descendants in the 22nd century can look forward to quite a spectacle, ... __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Holiday Gift Ideas, New Diogenite, Brachinite, CR2, C2-ung, Rumuruti, Iridium, Lunar, Martian, more!
Hi friends, collectors and innocent passersby, For the holiday season, I have a couple of announcements and some new offerings. As always, use coupon code metlist at checkout for 20% OFF your entire order! If you have any problems with the coupon code or checkout, email me for a prompt reply. ANNOUNCEMENTS : #1 - I have added a Christmas Ideas category to the store. This category contains items ranging from $5 to $500. These items would make great gifts or stocking stuffers for the science-nerd or astronomy-geek in your family. I will be adding new offerings to this category right up until the last minute before Christmas. #2 - As some of you have already noticed, I am making an effort to be much quicker with my shipping times. Have confidence that orders placed from now through Christmas will be shipping on the same business day or the next. #3 - I just received a new shipment of small Riker boxes. If there is a specimen you want to present in a Riker box, you can now add a Riker display to any specimen you purchase. Christmas Ideas category - http://www.galactic-stone.com/products/christmas-ideas For those of you who are type-collectors, or who collect Vestan (HEDO) meteorites, these are heady times. In the last two months, we have seen several new and exciting Vestan meteorites emerge on the market. Many of these new HEDO meteorites have been classified and made available thanks to Gary Fujihara and John Higgins. These two fine gentlemen and friends of mine have unleashed a wave of new diogenites, howardites and eucrites. For those of you who are seeking LARGE specimens of these new meteorites, please contact Gary or John. But for those of you on a limited budget, I have a wide range of micromount and macromounts available. In keeping with the recent theme of new Vestans, there is another brand-new diogenite straight from the camel's back. NEW OFFERS and HIGHLIGHTS FOR THIS WEEK : NWA 6290 - a fascinating new brecciated diogenite that is unlike any I have ever seen. I have seen red diogenites, green diogenites, and white diogenites. But this is the first orange-brown diogenite that I have encountered that has shiny black veins and metal fleck. This meteorite takes a high polish that shows off bands/streaks of inclusion material and polycrystalline clasts. There are also nickel-poor metal inclusions, olivine, and troilite. This new meteorite has a modest TKW of only 1kg, so it is not going to be on the market for very long before it's sold out and absorbed into collections. I have some polished slices, endcuts and micromounts available. NWA 6290 diogenite 2.65g crusted polished endcut - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6290--strange-new-brecciated-diogenite-from-vesta--265g-endcut NWA 6290 diogenite 1.4g polished slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6290--strange-new-brecciated-diogenite-from-vesta--14g-slice NWA 6290 diogenite 1.31g polished slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6290--strange-new-brecciated-diogenite-from-vesta--131g-slice NWA 6290 diogenite 1.2g polished slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6290--strange-new-brecciated-diogenite-from-vesta--12g-slice NWA 6290 diogenite 1.17g polished slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6290--strange-new-brecciated-diogenite-from-vesta--117g-slice NWA 6290 diogenite micromounts - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6290--strange-new-brecciated-diogenite-from-vesta--micromounts NWA 6393 (pristine new howardite) micros - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6393--fresh-new-vestan-howardite-from-morocco-micromounts NWA 6387 (fresh new howardite) micros - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6387--new-vestan-howardite-fresh-and-pristine-micromount FRESH STOCK : I just received a fresh shipment of brachinite and carbonaceous chondrites! NWA 6077 (anomalous brachinite paired with NWA 5400), 1.87g thick polished endcut - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6077--rare-exotic-brachinite-unknown-parent-body-187g-endcut NWA 6077 brachinite 545mg polished slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6077--rare-exotic-brachinite-unknown-parent-body-545mg-slice NWA 6077 brachinite 325mg polished slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6077--rare-exotic-brachinite-unknown-parent-body-545mg-slice NWA 6077 brachinite micros - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-6077-rare-brachinite-achondrite-unknown-parent-body-micromount NWA 801 (early NWA, carbonaceous CR2) 1g thick crusted endcut - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-801--early-carbonaceous-cr2-chondrite--1g-crusted-endcut - NWA 801 CR2, 381mg endcut - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-801--early-carbonaceous-cr2-chondrite--381mg-endcut NWA 801 CR2, 151mg slice - http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/nwa-801--early-carbonaceous-cr2-chondrite--151mg-slice PREVIOUS HIGHLIGHTS - GOING, GOING, . Tagish Lake C2-ungrouped micros -
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay another LISTING report themtoeBay.
I received the following two separate replies from the seller: I have had 18 emails about the meteorites. I will pull the autcions and reimburse the winners. It was a misunderstanding on my part, as I believed them to be Weston Meteorites. Yes, it appears you are correct. I have been made aware of this many times over, and am taking appropriate action to ensure the buyers are reimbursed if they have paid and to keep them from paying if they have not. The documentation I had was flawed obviously. David Ron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my delight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doing some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance is bliss. A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg. Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay another LISTING report themtoeBay.
Good evening listoids. I intended on following up on my original post yesterday, but I had trouble receiving email on my mothers computer (already here in Illinois for Thanksgiving with the family). I'm really glad to see how we were able to make a difference this time around. Not only on the pending auction, but the one that had already been completed. It's encouraging to see a seller listen, learn, and do the right thing. Thank you to all who got involved. I think the seller with the $750K Possible USA match to Dhofar Lunar Breccia is beyond hope though. I've tried to enlighten him before. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=360255954084ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT I think it's safe to assume though, he won't be getting any buyers. ;^) Linton -Original Message- From: R N Hartman rhartma...@earthlink.net Sent: Nov 19, 2010 6:35 AM To: Stuart McDaniel actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com, Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Weston on e-bay another LISTING report themtoeBay. I received the following two separate replies from the seller: I have had 18 emails about the meteorites. I will pull the autcions and reimburse the winners. It was a misunderstanding on my part, as I believed them to be Weston Meteorites. Yes, it appears you are correct. I have been made aware of this many times over, and am taking appropriate action to ensure the buyers are reimbursed if they have paid and to keep them from paying if they have not. The documentation I had was flawed obviously. David Ron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] nano diamonds in Allende
Hi list, with my new reflecting microscope I have now passed the 800 x mag. wall. The result is stunningly beautiful! Look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/inside_of_meteorites/5190930880/ m42protosun Sammle all Deine Mails in einem Postfach! Jetzt kostenlose E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de einrichten und alles auf einen Blick haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-umzug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] first meteorite hunt
Brilliant story Abe---I love the serendipitous nature of your discovery seeing as you were at the wrong location.What a fantastic first find, thanks for sharing your story and pics Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Congratulations Abe and son! What a great find. It does look like a cow pie. I wonder how many of us who hunt the Nevada lakes might have overlooked that one! Huge! So nice that you and your son enjoy the hobby together. Please share it's classification if you have it looked at. Best of everything, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 19, 2010 3:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my delight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doing some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance is bliss. A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg. Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] POP QUIZ TIME
Hello Listers, Its POP QUIZ TIME The name of the game: Be the 7th Lister to email me off the list with the correct answer and you will win a free 160mg NWA 1836 which I got from Steve Arnold aka Meteorite Men Question: Please tell me the first American meteorite that had chemical analysis done on it? Enjoy :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Abe, Congratulations! I love to here stories like this, I can feel your excitement and am very glad for you and your son. I remember as if it was yesterday when I found my first meteorite, what a great experience and sense of satisfaction. Keep up the good work and happy hunting! Larry -Original Message- From: Guenther lt;abe.guent...@mnsi.netgt; To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:26 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak ofso I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at asuccessful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before Ifinally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories andwatched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube beforenarrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a fewweeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheapairfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a fewplaces mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to huntover the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey itwas time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days.Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confidentsince his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we weresaving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were bothanticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a drylake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since itwas supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there werestill any meteorites left, we would find some.It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be onthe lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted todo the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were noclear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the nextmorning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00amafter a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain haddefinitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actuallytoo bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything specialexcept a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skullthat he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew ourmagnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharpcavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, thiswas a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a fewhours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive thetruck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen tolook to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stoppedand the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. Idon't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited aboutsomething. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavycompared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but itwas surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the lastday of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find ourfirst meteorite and to top it off, one so big!When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. Ijust couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someonewho has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. Hewasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To mydelight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doingsome more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles awayfrom the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went tothe wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know ifwe discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignoranceis bliss.A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg.Abe Guenther__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
What a great story On Nov 19, 2010, at 7:18 PM, Larry Atkins thetop...@aol.com wrote: Abe, Congratulations! I love to here stories like this, I can feel your excitement and am very glad for you and your son. I remember as if it was yesterday when I found my first meteorite, what a great experience and sense of satisfaction. Keep up the good work and happy hunting! Larry -Original Message- From: Guenther lt;abe.guent...@mnsi.netgt; To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 6:26 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak ofso I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at asuccessful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before Ifinally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories andwatched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube beforenarrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a fewweeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheapairfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a fewplaces mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to huntover the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey itwas time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days.Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confidentsince his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we weresaving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were bothanticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a drylake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since itwas supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there werestill any meteorites left, we would find some.It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be onthe lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted todo the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were noclear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the nextmorning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00amafter a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain haddefinitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actuallytoo bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything specialexcept a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skullthat he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew ourmagnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharpcavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, thiswas a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a fewhours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive thetruck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen tolook to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stoppedand the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. Idon't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited aboutsomething. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavycompared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but itwas surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the lastday of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find ourfirst meteorite and to top it off, one so big!When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. Ijust couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someonewho has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. Hewasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To mydelight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doingsome more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles awayfrom the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went tothe wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know ifwe discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignoranceis bliss.A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg.Abe Guenther__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecen tral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Congratulations Abe!!! Now that is the way to start off a meteorite hunting trip! Well done, and the fact that you and your son were able to share such a perfect moment...Priceless!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my delight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doing some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance is bliss. A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg. Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Thanks Count. I called Phil McCausland at the University of Western Ontario and he wants to classify it in the next couple of weeks. When he's done I will definitely let you know. BTW: I want to say that your story of the 28 pound meteorite find was fascinating to me too. I only learned about it when I was on my trip - before I found mine. Mine was just 2 pounds and so I can only imagine what your 28 pound discovery must have been like. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:05 PM To: Guenther; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Congratulations Abe and son! What a great find. It does look like a cow pie. I wonder how many of us who hunt the Nevada lakes might have overlooked that one! Huge! So nice that you and your son enjoy the hobby together. Please share it's classification if you have it looked at. Best of everything, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 19, 2010 3:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my delight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doing some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance is bliss. A few pictures:
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Hi Abe, Great find. You need to go find the rest of them : ) Sonny -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:26 am Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak ofso I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at asuccessful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before Ifinally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories andwatched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube beforenarrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a fewweeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheapairfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a fewplaces mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to huntover the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey itwas time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days.Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confidentsince his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we weresaving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were bothanticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a drylake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since itwas supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there werestill any meteorites left, we would find some.It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be onthe lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted todo the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were noclear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the nextmorning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00amafter a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain haddefinitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actuallytoo bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything specialexcept a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skullthat he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew ourmagnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharpcavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, thiswas a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a fewhours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive thetruck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen tolook to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stoppedand the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. Idon't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited aboutsomething. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavycompared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but itwas surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the lastday of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find ourfirst meteorite and to top it off, one so big!When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. Ijust couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someonewho has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. Hewasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To mydelight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doingsome more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles awayfrom the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went tothe wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know ifwe discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignoranceis bliss.A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg,http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg.Abe Guenther__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listmeteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Thanks Ruben. You're right. My hopes were a bit downtrodden after calling you on my way to Franconia but like I told you that day - If Franconia wasn't a good first place to look and since I only had so many days before I would have to pick up my son, I wanted you to tell me the truth. And I appreciate that you did. When you sent me that congratulations you have no idea how happy I was. I mean, I was 95% sure from my research that it was a meteorite but telling my son that you confirmed it was pretty exciting. Abe Guenther From: Ruben Garcia [mailto:mrmeteor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:41 PM To: Guenther; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Hey Abe, Thanks for sharing your story with everyone! However, you forgot to mention that I told you (before the hunt) that finding a meteorite on your first time out was near impossible. Even though I believe my advice was true I didn't take into account that you would be there until you either fell down from exhaustion or found a meteorite. I'm glad I was wrong and that you persisted, and even though I painted a very bleak picture you found one anyway! Thanks also for sharing the location as well as photos of your find. When you sent it to me I was sure I would be looking at another Meteor-wrong. However, when I saw it I phoned immediately to congratulate you on a fantastic find. Nothing succeeds like persistence! Great job! -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 19, 2010 3:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some
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Hi Sonny, I will have to tell my son that I talked to you! I'm sure he will be impressed. He watched Meteorite Men with me and because of that episode that you were on, I was able to convince him to come along. He had heard me for over a year talking about wanting to go meteorite hunting but it was only after that episode that he was excited about it. Because of certain circumstances, he and I have not had the opportunity to take many father and son trips and so it meant a great deal to me when he decided to come. He is a typical cool kid (that age where friends come first) and if you knew him, you would think he's not the type to be interested. I was expecting him to be kind of a spectator but to my surprise he was really into it. I marked the GPS and hope to get out there again in January if all goes well. No telling how well I will do but will be sure to report back. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: wahlpe...@aol.com [mailto:wahlpe...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:45 PM To: abe.guent...@mnsi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Hi Abe, Great find. You need to go find the rest of them : ) Sonny -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:26 am Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak ofso I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at asuccessful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before Ifinally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories andwatched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube beforenarrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a fewweeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheapairfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a fewplaces mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to huntover the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey itwas time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days.Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confidentsince his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we weresaving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were bothanticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a drylake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since itwas supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there werestill any meteorites left, we would find some.It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be onthe lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted todo the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were noclear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the nextmorning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00amafter a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain haddefinitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actuallytoo bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything specialexcept a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skullthat he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew ourmagnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharpcavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, thiswas a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a fewhours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive thetruck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen tolook to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stoppedand the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. Idon't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited aboutsomething. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavycompared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but itwas surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the lastday of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find ourfirst meteorite and to top it off, one so big!When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. Ijust couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someonewho has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. Hewasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To mydelight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doingsome more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles awayfrom the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went
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Hi Abe, What you achieved many people only dream of. To find a meteorite on your own, with no help, a true cold find is awesome. And even better to have your son along for the exciting find! It's amazing how the Meteorite Men show inspired so many people. I remember how I watched a program about 10 years ago that inspired me. It featured Bob Haag and it was on the Discovery Channel. I imagine the Meteorite Men show will motivate many new hunters to get out in the field and start hunting. Perhaps even find a rare meteorite, an American Lunar? Sonny -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 1:29 pm Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Hi Sonny,I will have to tell my son that I talked to you! I'm sure he will beimpressed. He watched Meteorite Men with me and because of that episode thatyou were on, I was able to convince him to come along. He had heard me forover a year talking about wanting to go meteorite hunting but it was onlyafter that episode that he was excited about it. Because of certaincircumstances, he and I have not had the opportunity to take many father andson trips and so it meant a great deal to me when he decided to come. He isa typical cool kid (that age where friends come first) and if you knew him,you would think he's not the type to be interested. I was expecting him tobe kind of a spectator but to my surprise he was really into it.I marked the GPS and hope to get out there again in January if all goeswell. No telling how well I will do but will be sure to report back.Abe Guenther-Original Message-From: wahlpe...@aol.com [mailto:wahlpe...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:45 PMTo: abe.guent...@mnsi.net; meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comsubject: Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite HuntHi Abe,Great find. You need to go find the rest of them : )Sonny-Original Message-From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.netTo: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:26 amSubject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite HuntHere is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak ofso I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at asuccessful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before Ifinally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories andwatched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube beforenarrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a fewweeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheapairfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a fewplaces mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to huntover the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey itwas time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days.Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confidentsince his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we weresaving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were bothanticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a drylake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since itwas supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there werestill any meteorites left, we would find some.It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be onthe lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted todo the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were noclear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the nextmorning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00amafter a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain haddefinitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actuallytoo bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything specialexcept a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skullthat he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew ourmagnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharpcavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, thiswas a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a fewhours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive thetruck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen tolook to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stoppedand the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. Idon't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited aboutsomething. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavycompared
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Does look like the real deal. Congratulations! Most people find small 10 gram to 50 gram pieces. ~5 lbs is amazing. Please let us know if it gets classified or at least guessed at by an expert. Cheers, Mike Tettenborn On 19/11/2010 6:26 PM, Guenther wrote: Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my delight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doing some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance is bliss. A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg. Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Hello Abe, It is a story like yours that makes all the crap Geoff and I go through worth the while. Of course we love what we do, and it is an honor to share some of our experiences with those who care enough to invest an hour of their lives with us each Tuesday night. But if anyone checks the archives here they can see posts from a few people who love to spew negative comments about how bad Meteorite Men is for the field of hunting and collecting meteorites. As if Geoff and I give a crap what those kind of people think, it still is an amazing pleasure to see someone like you take a little seed of inspiration and see an expedition come together with such amazing results. Like Sonny, I too was inspired by THE Meteorite Man Bob Haag. Bob was (and in my book still is) the greatest ambassador the meteorite world has ever had. In all the years I have known Bob I can't once remember him ever saying a bad word about anyone, and to the contrary he was ALWAYS excited even when one of his, what some If I can grow up to be a fraction of the meteorite man he has been, I will know I have done something right. And in that same spirit of sharing one's great meteorite adventures, like Bob would always do, you have chosen to bring us along with you, instead of keeping it to yourself! If you don't mind Abe, I will pass your story onto our producers? Who knows if we will get a Third season of Meteorite Men, but if we do, maybe there would be a way your story could be shared in a future episode, I think that would be awesome. Congratulations to you and your son. Steve Arnold Of Meteorite Men Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: wahlpe...@aol.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:26:59 To: abe.guent...@mnsi.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Hi Abe, What you achieved many people only dream of. To find a meteorite on your own, with no help, a true cold find is awesome. And even better to have your son along for the exciting find! It's amazing how the Meteorite Men show inspired so many people. I remember how I watched a program about 10 years ago that inspired me. It featured Bob Haag and it was on the Discovery Channel. I imagine the Meteorite Men show will motivate many new hunters to get out in the field and start hunting. Perhaps even find a rare meteorite, an American Lunar? Sonny -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net To: wahlperry wahlpe...@aol.com; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 1:29 pm Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Hi Sonny,I will have to tell my son that I talked to you! I'm sure he will beimpressed. He watched Meteorite Men with me and because of that episode thatyou were on, I was able to convince him to come along. He had heard me forover a year talking about wanting to go meteorite hunting but it was onlyafter that episode that he was excited about it. Because of certaincircumstances, he and I have not had the opportunity to take many father andson trips and so it meant a great deal to me when he decided to come. He isa typical cool kid (that age where friends come first) and if you knew him,you would think he's not the type to be interested. I was expecting him tobe kind of a spectator but to my surprise he was really into it.I marked the GPS and hope to get out there again in January if all goeswell. No telling how well I will do but will be sure to report back.Abe Guenther-Original Message-From: wahlpe...@aol.com [mailto:wahlpe...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:45 PMTo: abe.guent...@mnsi.net; meteorite-l...@meteoritecentral.comsubject: Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite HuntHi Abe,Great find. You need to go find the rest of them : )Sonny-Original Message-From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.netTo: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 10:26 amSubject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite HuntHere is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience.I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak ofso I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at asuccessful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before Ifinally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories andwatched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube beforenarrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a fewweeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheapairfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a fewplaces mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to huntover the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey itwas time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the
[meteorite-list] The Manuel Benavides Craterwrong and Cratermania
People having been using Google Earth for a number of purposes, including the search for impact craters. Although Google Earth has been useful in the search for impact structures and craters, some people have been indulging in a cratermania in which any circular feature and even a number of noncircular features are instantly claimed to be either impact structures and craters without a single shred of either ground truthing, literature review, or hard evidence. One specific example is: 1. The Benavides Impact Structure: A large, multiple airburst, geo-ablative impact structure. http://craterhunter.wordpress.com/the-planetary-scaring-of-the-younger-dryas-impact-event/the-benivides-impact-structure/ http://tiny.cc/Benavides This feature is described as: The semi circular ring of The Benavides Impact Structure is 17 miles wide. Just across the border from Terlingua, Texas, and Big Bend National Park, USA. and it is stated, There is no volcanic vent here. Unfortunately, recently published and very, very detailed geologic mapping demonstrates beyond any shadow of a doubt that the above statements are completely wrong. The so-called Benavides Impact Structure is in fact a volcanic caldera and would be more correctly called the Benavides Craterwrong. This detailed geologic mapping, McDowell (2010), states about the Benavides structure; The caldera is an unusual trap-door type with a hinge zone on the southwest and two separate collapse and eruption margins around the north and east. Its outer diameter is approximately 25 km, which is unusually large for the tuffs that erupted from it, suggestive of a shallow collapse. Inflation or tumescence prior to the eruptions modified a preexisting Laramide fold by bowing it outward toward the north and east; a 31.5 Ma granitoid was intruded into the fold axis, resulting in the formation of skarn deposits in the surrounding limestones of the fold. References Cited; McDowell, F. W., 2010, Geologic Map of Manuel Benavides area, Chihuahua, Mexico. Map and Chart no. 99. Geological Society of America, Boulder, Colorado. http://rock.geosociety.org/Bookstore/default.asp?oID=0catID=2pID=MCH099F Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Drumlins Are Glacial, Not Impact, In Origin
Dear friends, New research concerning how drumlins form has appeared in the October 2010 (vol. 38 no. 10) issue of Geology. http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/38/10.toc The significance of this research is discussed in: 1. How Drumlins Form, olelog What on Earth Blog, Nov. 18, 2010, http://my.opera.com/nielsol/blog/show.dml/22004962 2. Drumlin Field Discovery Gives Answers About Glaciation And Climate, redorbit November 16, 2010, http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1951595/drumlin_field_discovery_gives_answers_about_glaciation_and_climate/index.html The paper is; Johnson, M. D., A. Schomacker, I. O. Benediktsson, A. J. Geiger, A. Ferguson, and O. Ingolfsson, 2010, Active drumlin field revealed at the margin of Múlajökull, Iceland: A surge-type glacier. Geology. vol. 38, no. 10, pp. 943-946, DOI: 10.1130/G31371.1 http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/38/10/943 This refutes the claims by various catastrophists that drumlins were either created by Pleistocene extraterrestrial impacts or Noah's Flood. An example of how drumlins are misinterpreted and misused as evidence of an extraterrestrial impact is discussed in Could a Comet Tail Have Scarred the Earth in the Recent Past? at http://www.sott.net/articles/show/206447-Could-a-Comet-Tail-Have-Scarred-the-Earth-in-the-Recent-Past- Even more detailed discussion of how drumlins were created is discussed in a number of papers in the December (vol. 232, no. 3-4) issue of Sedimentary Geology at http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00370738 Best Wishes, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Thank you Abe for the wonderful report Absolutely amazing to catch a cold find. On many hunts I have had to remind myself that meteorites fell here or meteorites were found here and that mindset keeps me going, keeps my eyes on the ground. I trust you had a similar mantra...and it manifested a five pounder in the middle of nowhere! What a great story, Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 3:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Here is a short story about a first time meteorite hunting experience. I live in an area of Canada that has not yielded any meteorites to speak of so I knew I needed to look at hotter, dryer areas for the best chance at a successful first trip. I did over a year of research and planning before I finally made my decision where to go. I read countless success stories and watched a lot of meteorite hunting shows and videos on YouTube before narrowing my search. Almost overwhelmed at all the places I could try, a few weeks before the much awaited trip I decided on Nevada. Besides the cheap airfare to Vegas, there were lots of success stories near Vegas. I had a few places mapped out in Nevada, Arizona and California that I wanted to hunt over the 9 day trip. After finding nothing in 5 days of my lone journey it was time to pick up my son who flew in to join me for the final 4 days. Considering this was his first time too, I am sure he wasn't too confident since his dad hadn't found anything yet. But he and I both knew we were saving the best place for last! This was the part of the trip we were both anticipating because our destination several hours away would be to a dry lake bed that we knew had yielded some meteorites just recently. Since it was supposed to be a secret location, we were confident that if there were still any meteorites left, we would find some. It rained a lot on the way so we were concerned about how bad it might be on the lake bed. We arrived at the dry lake area near dark so all we wanted to do the first day was figure out how to get to the lake since there were no clear roads to access it. We could hardly wait to get out there the next morning bright and early. We finally made it to the lake bed at about 9:00am after a muddy trek and nearly 2 hours travel from the motel. The rain had definitely made it slippery but we were surprises that it wasn't actually too bad on the lake bed itself. The first day didn't yield anything special except a really fun time. My son found a complete dried out coyote skull that he kept and an arrow head. We also found a several rocks that drew our magnets but they were obviously not meteorites because of deep, sharp cavities and what we would soon discover over the next couple of days, this was a common rock in the area. We usually parked and then walked for a few hours at a time and when we started to get tired, we would just drive the truck during our rests. It was during one of these drives that I happen to look to my left and noticed what I thought was another cow patty. I stopped and the first thing I did when I got out was kick it. It didn't move. I don't remember what I said but my son knew that I was excited about something. I picked it up and it felt like 5 pounds. It was unusually heavy compared to the other rocks. I had no doubt it would draw the magnet but it was surprising to see it stick so hard. This was the last hour of the last day of the trip and all we could think is how lucky we had been to find our first meteorite and to top it off, one so big! When we got home I still thought that we had been on the right lake bed. I just couldn't wait to tell everyone about our success! I looked up someone who has excellent knowledge of meteorites and emailed him the pictures. He wasn't quite convinced and so he had me take some more pictures. To my delight, he emailed me back a congratulations. It was only after doing some more research about the lake bed that I realized we were 100 miles away from the lake bed we had researched. In a way I am sort of glad we went to the wrong lake bed but I'm happy we didn't know at the time. I don't know if we discovered a new meteorite fall but it is fun to think we did. Ignorance is bliss. A few pictures: http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM1.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM2.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM3.jpg, http://aguenthe.mnsi.net/NM4.jpg. Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit
Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt
Nice cow pie, Abe! And a great story, too! Thanks for sharing it with us on the list. Congratulations. You earned it. Linton -Original Message- From: Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net Sent: Nov 19, 2010 8:29 PM To: wahlpe...@aol.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] First Meteorite Hunt Hi Sonny, I will have to tell my son that I talked to you! I'm sure he will be impressed. He watched Meteorite Men with me and because of that episode that you were on, I was able to convince him to come along. He had heard me for over a year talking about wanting to go meteorite hunting but it was only after that episode that he was excited about it. Because of certain circumstances, he and I have not had the opportunity to take many father and son trips and so it meant a great deal to me when he decided to come. He is a typical cool kid (that age where friends come first) and if you knew him, you would think he's not the type to be interested. I was expecting him to be kind of a spectator but to my surprise he was really into it. I marked the GPS and hope to get out there again in January if all goes well. No telling how well I will do but will be sure to report back. Abe Guenther __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] nano diamonds in Allende
Hi m42protosun and Met List member, I am not sure that You catch a nanodiamonds. Usually they are wisible under HRTEM microscope (High Resolution TEM) and grains was separate under acid treatment. Nanodiamonds form chondrites (CC, OC) have 2 - 3 nm size. Here a exemple of separate Tagish Lake nanodiamonds powder and my results form Raman Spectroscopy: http://picasaweb.google.com/illaenus/TagishLakeNanodiamonds# Also here is Daulton photo using a HRTEM of single grain form Allende : http://presolar.wustl.edu/work/tem.html All the best Tomek Jakubowski IMCA #2321 Dnia 20-11-2010 o godz. 1:11 m42protosun napisał(a): Hi list, with my new reflecting microscope I have now passed the 800 x mag. wall. The result is stunningly beautiful! Look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/inside_of_meteorites/5190930880/ m42protosun Sammle all Deine Mails in einem Postfach! Jetzt kostenlose E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de einrichten und alles auf einen Blick haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-umzug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
